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Your warning to Atlantis Ralbadisole[edit]

Hey hey, I just wanted to drop you a note about this edit. I'm a little confused as to why you consider this name promotional; I googled "Atlantis Ralbadisole" and did not find any organizations under that name. I would also like to remind you that user warnings go on the user's talk page, rather than their user page. The general consensus to avoid editing another user's user page is reflected at Wikipedia:User pages § Editing of other editors' user and user talk pages. Cheers, cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 20:55, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

The user's only edit so far has been this. - Donald Albury 21:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Donald Albury, that's fair! Just make sure next time it goes on the right page. They won't get a new message notification if you place it on their user page, and it's considered bad form to put talk messages on user pages. Cheers, cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 13:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The placement on the user page was a mistake. I was switching back and forth between tabs while I was checking out the user, and ended up on the wrong page. - Donald Albury 14:16, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Gulf of Mexico short description[edit]

The short description says: "An ocean basin and marginal sea of the Atlantic Ocean, largely surrounded by the North American continent". Errrr... quite long at 17 words; still 12 words excluding noise words like a, an, the, by, of, etc. Tied for longest short description I've seen. Some short descriptions are obviously superfluous, like "lake" for Lake Superior. My criteria for revision is shorter than 5 words or longer than 10 words. We don't need to define gulf here as a marginal sea or ocean basin, because a 'gulf' which is neither is not a gulf. It's sufficient for this usage to simply say, "gulf of the Atlantic Ocean". We don't need to define the landforms of the gulf, because the gulf of California is also surrounded by the North American continent. It's sufficient to say it's a "gulf of the Atlantic Ocean in North America". But Hudson Bay and Gulf of St. Lawrence are also gulfs of the Atlantic Ocean in North America, so the description is ambiguous. So how about "gulf of the Atlantic Ocean in southeastern North America"? 9 words, getting close to a reasonable limit. The real question is, is this sufficient to notify the reader that this is the article he seeks, or it is not? There's an art to short descriptions - they're not part of text, more like directory entries. Clarity is more important than absolute accuracy. What else could be "gulf of the Atlantic Ocean in southeastern North America"? No, it's not exactly "in" North America, within the boundaries of the continent, any more than Gulf of California is "in" Mexico - it is not. But no one is going to call us on it. Sbalfour (talk) 01:11, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

@Sbalfour: How about, "Atlantic Ocean basin extending into southern North America"? Just eight words, although more characters than your version. - Donald Albury 01:54, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Hmmmm... unambiguous, pretty clear. I'll take it. I see you already patched it. Regards, Sbalfour (talk) 02:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
@Sbalfour: I had started to edit the description, decided to bring my version back here, and inadvertantly committed my edit. Oh well. - Donald Albury 02:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2019[edit]

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Art+Feminism editathon in Gainesville this Saturday, March 16, 2019[edit]

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