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User: Mike Garcia[edit]

MIke Garcia (talkcontribsGarcia page movesblock userGarcia block log)

Mike Garcia (talk · contributions) This user constantly vandalizes the "Judas Priest" article, deleting relevant and accurate information, while adding irrelevant and inaccurate facts, as well as slang and inappropriate language. Please try to reason with this obnoxious and irrational individual.

At first I also didn't understand how Garcia's name didn't show up. Then I understood that he each time just reverts it to his original version.

What I saw as vandalism was his insisting to use the semi-slang word "hugely" instead of "immensely", as well as deleting essential information, adding inaccurate facts and forcusing on the least important facts. He did this about 12 times since 4/20/05. Please compare the current version with his.


Joe I (now "")

Some concerns, questions and suggestions for WP[edit]

Hi Danny,

I don't exactly know if this is the appropriate place to do this, but since you have more experience and authority here, I guess you'll be able to channel this to the right place.

First I have encountered a merely technical, though improtant issue; there seems to be some problem or confusion in how capitalization is processed by WP. If you type in an entry consisting of more than one word(s), and it is not capitalized exactly as it appears in the existing article, it sends you to the "create this and this article" page or "not found" (search) page. This extremely frequant with album titles. I suggest to make the browser window case-unsensitive. I also believe that it would be beneficial to capitalize all words (even "of", "the" etc.) in titles of articles, even if gramatically incorrect, especially considering the fact that in most cases partial capitalization is anyway incorrect. (eg. "Sad Wings Of Destiny" vs. "Sad Wings of Destiny" are both incorrect, but only the latter will direct you to the desired page.

(Sorry must run - will continue later...)

Joe I ( 19:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Junior Wikipedia[edit]

I've been told that there is a junior wikipedia in the pipeline, and that you are involved. I would love to work on such a project. There is currently a discussion at the village pump. Could you comment there please. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 08:49, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Scrub that request. Anthony's moved the discussion to meta, so please comment there Theresa

Danny's contest[edit]

Dear Danny,

please contact me specifying the amount of WikiMoney you require for my victory in the currently running Danny's contest. Alternatively I would be willing to pay in kind.

Yours, [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 08:47, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)


Hello Danny, I redid nl:Gangnihessou a bit and will look into the regional langs here, I will report on progress! Waerth 02:15, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

A small update, I gone to talkpages of users I know on the different language wikipedias and asked them to join. So the following pedia's could become covered: vi, th, id, ms, tl, af, fy, et. I will try to spread the gospel further ;) Waerth 17:18, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Winning the award[edit]

A couple of things:

  1. The wiki image syntax for the picture is broken, so "right" appeas as the tooltip. In my usual meddling way I was going to "fix" it but I can't for obvious reasons :-)
  2. What award is that? Is that really you (I assume in the middle)?

--Phil | Talk 11:34, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Department of Fun[edit]

hey there just wanted to invite you to be a member of the Department of Fun as i saw you on a linked page we have (i assume you were the creator) as a judge feel free to add your sig./timestamp in the members section. --Larsie 17:30, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Erwterter and User:Punk[edit]

I've just moved back States of Malaysia from Erwterter. I remember User:Punk was listed as moving it the other way on my watchlist (unfortunately, I can't seem to display that history again). Anyway, for what it's worth, I'm posting this note here, because Punk's user page is redirected to User:Michael who seems to be under your mentorship. Time below in GMT+8.

# (diff) (hist) . . N Erwterter; 07:51:53 . . Sabre23t (Talk) (Erwterter moved to States of Malaysia)
# (diff) (hist) . . N Talk:Erwterter; 07:51:54 . . Sabre23t (Talk) (Talk:Erwterter moved to Talk:States of Malaysia)

regards, --sabre23t 00:24, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Gangnihessou - translation of the week[edit]

Hi. I have translated the Gangnihessou article in Romanian. And that gave me an idea, after looking at how great it looked to have so many interlanguage links for an article that not many people know about! How about, each week, we have an article that is translated from en: in as many languages as possible - the article should be a relatively obscure one or one that isn't that well-known, in order to promote greater interlinguality. Or is there already such a thing? Cheers, Ronline 11:53, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your invitation on the Anglo-Saxon wikipedia to participate in the meta:Translation of the week project. I've translated Gangnihessou into Anglo-Saxon (probably not particularly well) and linked it from a few of the other pages. I'll continue to monitor the Translation of the week page, though I'm not sure whether I can do it every week. --Saforrest 23:19, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

This was a very nice idea. Keep me posted on similar things. [[User:Muriel Gottrop|muriel]] 13:30, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)


I reviewed all articles. My notes are here User:Anthere/contest. Actually, I went rather quickly on those obviously best ones, for I think you probably plan two turns ?

Tell me how many you wish in first selection please. Cheers. SweetLittleFluffyThing

blocked ip[edit]

hey there, what was the deal with blocking me? was there some sort of issue, i saw the blocked users list and it looked messed up.


Are you dannyisme from the chat? There are a lot of dannies around :o). Anyway...many people want to move forward with the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Fact_and_Reference_Check project instead of waiting for 'smart' footnotes to be coded into MediaWiki. The first step is agreeing upon a formatting template used to fact check new articles. Several candidates are up for vote, and everyone is encouraged to vote and/or submit their own proposal. Comments on proposals are also very much welcome.

Thanks for your interest in our project, I hope you will vote :o). --ShaunMacPherson 22:46, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Translation of the week[edit]

Hallo Danny I have gone to all wikipedia's today and any that looked active I put this message on there, either in VP or an a users talkpage, results are showing ....

Currently we have started a project on meta.wikipedia to get an article translated in as many wikipedias as possible every week. The article will be about a subject that usually gets rarely translated and has a lot of links to other subjects. Currently we have no-one to translate in your language. If someone is interested to participate please see: meta:Translation of the week You can also submit articles from your own languages there that you think deserve translation, but have a small chance of it. The articles must not be to short and not to long and have lots of links to possible other articles! en:user:Waerth

December Arbitration Committee elections[edit]

I know you're terribly busy, but you couldn't possibly cast an eye over Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2004, and possibly agree to run the election, too?
Thank you so very much, either way.
James F. (talk) 12:16, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)


An XL shirt would be best. - SimonP 17:16, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)

Recent occurances[edit]

Hi Danny,

You have recently claimed that you often argue on my behalf. You have also claimed that you blocked me on meta with an expiry period of 24 hours. You have also claimed that "people" were talking about me and that I was very close to being banned by these "people". You have also claimed that you are a strong supporter of linguistic pluralism in the Wikimedia foundation.

However, I have found all of these to be false, with a little investigation.

Apparently, you have in the past said many a bad thing about me and there are others who I would not expect who stand up for me much more than do you.

Your block of me on Meta will not expire until after 00.00 on the 9th - this is longer than 24 hours since you blocked me.

It has also become apparent that while there are a few people who are in favour of banning me, most people seem to think it is too severe a punishment and in fact most seem to be more against it than you do.

As is readily apparent from your recent discussions with numerous Wikipedians, you are clearly not for absolute linguistic plurality. In fact, Anthere, Jimbo, Elian, and even in some respects Angela appear to be more for linguistic plurality than do you, by a long shot.

You have recently claimed that I have been acting histronically, however, a detailed review of your actions and then my actions has revealed that you are the one who has been acting histrionically.

For example:

In the past 3 days, how many posts have I made to all MLs combined? What sorts of actions have I taken regarding recent linguistic issues on Wikipedia? How have I dealt with the conflict between you and I? It is beginning to appear to me like you're Jim Carrey in that movie Cable Guy, being all wacko and then trying to make everybody think that I'm wacko.

It also appears that many people have condemned your recent actions, and many people believe moreso than do I that you are not a nice person, just a couple of examples being one person saying you are a "prick", and another person saying you are extremely condescending.

If you should wish to discuss any of this with me, I will remind you that I attempted to initiate dialogue yesterday, but you declined giving the reason that you were busy (but apparently not busy enough to be chatting in #wikimedia, as well as exchanging PMs with various other Wikipedians).

Node 03:42, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC) (a.k.a. "node", said in a contemptuous tone)


hey there danny, i'm really quite excited to get this up and running. i am defineately prepared to spend a lot of time working on it as i beleive it will prove to be a very valuable resource for learning. unfortunately my 'wikiskills' arent that great, what i'm trying to do is bring, for example, the image of venus on the wikipedia article over to the category of venus for the solar system module, it just does not seem to work. can you help? oh and i'd like to transfer and simplify tables as well. --Larsie 17:39, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Re the observatory. It disappoint me greatly Danny, that you just give up neutrality at the slightest request of an observatory. There is no vandalism on this page, where on the contrary the observatory keeps on adding a pov comment. SweetLittleFluffyThing

Ivory Coast - I hadnt noticed the French name. I remember a long time ago getting jeered for proposing that we use the originating local-language phoneticisation in place of Anglicized names... This would apply quite broadly to countries, cities, language names, etc. Should this not be a wider consistently applied logic, or should Cote d'Ivorie redirect back to Ivory Coast? -SV 02:07, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hmm... (with frumpy Yoda expression) Do you agree with me that we need a consistent policy, regardless of wether or not a country has "changed" their name "officially" or not? Anglicization has been the traditional MO regardless if any "change" was made. ;) - SV 03:11, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You did not answer my question. I wont ask it thrice. -SV 04:00, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Filiocht 10:46, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)


You may have been under the impression that the disparaging of subpages applies outside the article namespace; to the contrary, users' archives belong as subpages in their own respective talk namespaces, not e.g. in the talk namespace of User:Danny Archive, whose username would be a bit confusing but still perfectly acceptable. I took the liberty of doing the moves rather than making the fuss of describing them either precisely or confusingly.

Now that i've gotten my talk page down from 70-some kB to below 30, i'm in the position to urge you to get yours down from 108 to below 30. (Have you been archiving without dropping the corresponding sections from here?)
--Jerzy(t) 16:37, 2004 Nov 12 (UTC)

Wikipedia crashed my exercycle![edit]

Um, so I was in Manhattan. And the nearest 'Internet cafe' was a 'Net-enabled exercycle at the YMCA across the block. Only it would crash and show its Win95 innards whenever a wikimedia site was visited... totally bizarre, or fitting? let's talk soon. --sj

Wikipedia:Forum for Encyclopedic Standards[edit]

I have drafted a proposal for a new voluntary association on Wikipedia (joining groups like the Wikipedia:The Business and Economics Forum and the Wikipedia:Harmonious editing club) to promote discussion of a sort of system of expert review on Wiki. Please take a look and add your ideas. 172 02:46, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Arbitration election dates and timing[edit]

Since nobody else has stepped forward, it looks like we will take you up on your offer to administer the Arbitration Committee election again. First of all, my very inadequate thanks to you for doing that, not only this time but previously. Adjusting the dates as you mentioned, so that the election starts and ends on the weekend, should not be a problem. To get the rest of the process firmed up, I also wanted to ask when you want the list of candidates finalized. If we start the election on December 4 (at 0:00 UTC or would something else be better?), can we allow new candidates to declare up until the last 24 hours, or should we use an earlier cutoff? --Michael Snow 21:05, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing[edit]

I was looking at the U.S. city/state articles and noticed that you've made a number of changes. I've chosen to multi-license all of the rambot contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike Licence. I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license your all your contributions (or at minimum those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license. Many users use the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template on their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I understand, but I thought I'd at least ask, just in case. -- Ram-Man 18:02, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

You mentioned on my talk page that you'd be willing to multi-license some of your changes (the ones I noticed were made months ago to a few city articles). It's actually really simple. Here are a couple examples of what you would have to add somewhere on your user page (User:Danny):
Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. State]] article, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain (which many people don't like to do), you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}
To be fair, the process does allow your contributions to be more accessible, but if someone accepts your changes under an alternative license but not the GFDL, any changes they make could not be folded back into Wikipedia. This is one of the tradeoffs discussed on Wikipedia:Multi-licensing. -- Ram-Man 19:39, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for your response on my talk page. If you want to do it, just highlight and copy the text (ideally for Option 1) above and save it on your talk page and it will show everyone of your intentions to dual-license your contributions. -- Ram-Man 00:44, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

Arbcom (Please read my note before signing)[edit]

I am also happy that Univited Company has offered his services, and am happy to work with him. Danny 01:22, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sure. Anything you do on Wiki is okay with me! 172 01:02, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Same here - David Gerard 01:07, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

And with UninvitedCompany - David Gerard 01:27, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Absolutely, I have no problem whatsoever with you and Elian doing the election coordination. - Hephaestos|§ 01:08, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I am unfamiliar w Elian, but unless you oppose them yourself, I trust your judgement. I would say that I don't approve of you not voting, and would ask you to do so, but that should not be taken as an objection to you handling the election, as you seem so especially able to do. [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Arb Com election]] 01:18, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

as an outsider to the english wikipedia who watches however closely what is going on here, I would be glad to assist with the election. Feel free to use my talk page if you have any question. greetings, --Elian 01:33, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yep - very happy with all three choices -- sannse (talk) 01:26, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

As I said [[|User:Grunt/Questions_for_the_candidate|elsewhere]]: "I would support your coordinating the election so long as you have no intention to run whatsoever. :)" I also support uc's participation. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 01:26, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

More than happy, but only on the condition you archive your page!!!!! Gah! - Ta bu shi da yu 01:30, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Given that I asked you to serve as election administator (above), I am and remain happy with you being so.
James F. (talk) 01:39, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have no objections to Danny, Elian, and UninvitedCompany administering the election. —No-One Jones (m) 01:47, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I also lend my support--Josiah 02:06, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Uninvented Company is a great choice. I wish he were in the running for arbitrator, though. 172 03:25, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've also got no problems with it. Shane King 03:58, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

Why on earth would anyone oppose this idea? Good work with the past elections, Danny, and I hope you keep it up. Johnleemk | Talk 05:36, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

What all the others have said. (Sorry for the delay - I'm away from home for a couple of days). Ambi 13:16, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

ArbCom elections oversight[edit]

Elections endorsement problem[edit]

Hi, since you're helping administer the Arbitration Committee election, I think it would be helpful to have your opinion to help settle the dispute over how to structure the endorsements page. --Michael Snow 20:03, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Harlan Ellison[edit]

That was a pretty obvious copyvio in the Harlan Ellison article. A lot of good previous text had been completely replaced by that anon. Could you please explain why you reverted it? See the page history. I'm going to revert it back to the last non-copyvio version. --Ponder 22:49, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)

No, I do not support your coordinate the arbcom elections. You have not shown any indication that you are willing to stand up to the cabal; as such, I fear you might be biased. Lirath Q. Pynnor

If you ask me to approve of your actions, and I disapprove; and you proceed, don't come patronizing me with "thanks for my honest response". Lirath Q. Pynnor

Mike Garcia[edit]

I assume you're aware of Michael's seeming claim to be an admin on his talk page? (At the bottom, in his conversation with Taco). If not, I thought you should be. Snowspinner 23:28, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

Statistics question[edit]

Danny, are you aware of a source that allows one to determine how many active editors are currently working on Wikipedia? Say within the last week, the last month, and the last six months?

Some users are throwing around claims that imply that they know the sentiment of the average editor, and I would like to be better informed as to how many editors there really are, actively making contributions to articles.

I am really surprised the developers of the Wiki software didn't see fit to build a polling mechanism into the client front end, because given the number of editors I think there may be, the error in almost every poll I've seen must be huge (as to how representative it is of the actual opinions of the editors out there).

If this is not your area of expertise, I would be indebted to you if you would pass this query along to the proper individual whom you think would best be able to provide some answers.

Per a recommendation by Theresa Knott, I will cross post this message to Elian and UninvitedCompany, in the hopes that one of you will know the answer.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

--DV 03:45, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Hi. I just wanted to say, please do not give up on the CSBT. It may take time, but I believe that the project will get off the ground. I would be happy to discuss ideas with you about how to make that happen. Danny 02:17, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the project has been hampered by admins from the start. One called it a "socially acceptable back-door way of promoting anti-Americanism" designed to "minimize the significance of the 9/11 attacks". This is the kind of insularity it was up against. Others refused to allow templates on the article pages linking to the project. Each week has seen less and less contributions. Anonymous emails were sent to me deriding it's aims. Now, it is almost moribund. It would make sense to give it up and admit that Wikipedia will always be nothing more than an encyclopaedia mainly for Babylon 5 fans. - Xed 23:05, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)


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hope i didn't miss any :)

Ryo 16:11, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Nicely drafted letter. :) --Hemanshu 19:49, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Hi Danny, I thought you might want to know that I've been nominated on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Mustafaa, and accepted this time. I just wanted to say thanks again for offering to nominate me before - I didn't accept last time because of worries about Wikiholism, but I think I'm past worrying about that now! :) - Mustafaa 22:36, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

==Thanks and question==[edit]

Thanks for the note. I have a question for you: What is the CSB referred to above on your Talk page? I have encountered some provincialism here, for example in the discussion of "national liberation movements"... I'm curious what this is/was. —Tkinias 03:40, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Umm Kulthum sample[edit]

I'll see if I can track something down, but I'm not sure I have any recordings of Umm Kulthum. Tuf-Kat 21:34, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

Thoughts and sentiments[edit]

While I am currently abstaining from article contributions, I wanted to say that I enjoyed reading the article you authored on Quobna Ottobah Cugoano. I also want to bring to your attention that in 1999 Penguin Books has republished his Thoughts and Sentiments on the Evil and Wicked Traffic of the Slavery and Commerce of the Human Species, Humbly Submitted to The Inhabitants of Great-Britain, by Ottobah Cugoano, a Native of Africa. (London, 1787), and his Thoughts and Sentiments on the Evil of Slavery; or, the Nature of Servitude as Admitted by the Law of God, Compared to the Modern Slavery of the Africans in the West-Indies; In an Answer to the Advocates for Slavery and Oppression. Addressed to the Sons of Africa, by a Native (London, 1791), including Illustrations and Explanatory Notes to the 1787 and 1791 Publication(s).

Here is the actual reference:

Cugoano, Ottobah (edited Vincent Carretta). Thoughts and sentiments on the evil of slavery and other writings (Penguin Books, NY, 1999) ISBN 0140447504


It is my pleasure. The Carretta compilation, encompassing both works, is undoubtedly the best and most recent of its kind, and should prove most useful to the reader and prsopective researcher. Keep up the good work! El_C

Minor edits[edit]

In recognition of your dedicated use of the minor edit, I award you the Minor Barnstar ClockworkSoul

You and the rest of your team have been making excellent and much needed minor edits. In recognition of your dedication, I offer you my sincere gratitude, and this Minor Barnstar. -- [[User:ClockworkSoul|User:ClockworkSoul/sig]] 07:10, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee election[edit]

Dear Arbitration Committee election organizer:

Fred Bauder has likened me to Holocaust deniers on the Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2004/Candidate statements/Endorsements page (by adding this link on top of his original statements [1]). [2] I am a professional historian; and most of my family was murdered in Nazi death camps. So I find this statement intolerable. I will no longer contribute to Wikipedia if this slander is allowed to stand, given that it is coming from someone with the stature in the community of a member of the Arbitration Committee.


172 09:17, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Good idea![edit]

Hi Danny. Thanks for sharing the idea of looking for uncapitalized adjectives of ethnic groups and languages in the 'fix common mistakes' project. I ran a search for such words this afternoon and I estimate there's thousands of such errors in the article space. That's a lot more than I expected. Anyway, this kind of errors is perfect for distributed fixing. I have listed a part of the first results at the project page. Best regards, Sietse 17:40, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

ArbCom Election voting problem[edit]

Hi, I'm having a problem with the automated voting software, as it keeps telling me I cannot vote, since my first editing with User:M7it is not three months old. Actually, I've made my first edit on on 23:45, 11 Jul 2004 (hist) Amalasuntha. Please see my older contributions here

User:Neutrality was the one that suggested that I'd better creating an account on, also in order to get the right to vote. I've duly posted a request on Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit, but it hasn't been processed yet. Is it possible for you to process my own vote in another way, maybe excluding the automated software mechanism, or I am going to lose my vote into some bureaucratic cavil? Thank you, M7it 23:55, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for you answer. I'm not enthusiastic about this fact, and modified the campaign banner for my page accordingly. Ciao, M7it 23:48, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Artificial Consciousness[edit]

Hi! I contacted Cimon Avaro, and explained it to him at [3] From his reply at [4] it seems that he agrees to mediate, otherwise I agree with any mediator who Angela recommended. In the only comment at [5] in response to my request for comment, one says that "I've never heard the term "artifical consciousness" used before", so this seems to be causing misunderstanding. They read it, and some even edit it, as Artificial Intelligence article, and don't find it to be a good Artificial Intelligence article, though it was never intended to be such. Artificial consciousness is a general term, which incorporates many similar interpretations, for example Digital Sentience article was previously merged into it. It is a separate field in science (qv a special edition of Journal of Consciousness Studies dedicated to Machine Consciousness at [6]). I started the artificial consciousness article more than a year ago, after a short article under that heading, created under psychology, was deleted for no content (it merely stated that no such system has been made yet). At first it also was a short article, mainly containing a definition and some aspects of AC, it became considerably longer after the other editors came. Tkorrovi 15:32, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I came across the Artificial consciousness article a couple of weeks ago after searching for articles on strong AI. The strong AI heading was a stub but the Artificial consciousness heading was full of strong AI content. It was clear to me that the Artificial consciousness article was mis-classified so I posted an item about its neutrality in the discussion section and suggested that it be moved to strong AI. I later transferred it to strong AI where it looked quite good see: Article under strong AI. The only change I made was to use MS Word to change all occurrences of Artificial consciousness to strong AI and to leave behind the test and tin-men links.

Having moved the article I then wrote a new, briefer text for Artificial consciousness, keeping some of the original such as tests and tin-men links. See: New article for Artificial consciousness

It is evident from the discussion at Artificial consciousness that I am not the first to have spotted that the previous article was incorrectly classified. We now have a problem because any discussion of the classification issue is likely to descend into a potentially endless debate on Turing machines, AI, consciousness etc. whereas the issue is simply one of classification, as user Slim pointed out when he/she responded to the Request for Comment. User: 8/12/04

I have a suggestion, we can see from the last week of work by Tkorrovi that a lot of his contribution is now being made at strong AI. Given this, would he consider re-instating the article that I contributed and adding to that? We would then get a strong AI article where previously there was a stub and a more general Artificial Consciousness article where previously this was considered a bit specific by several users. User:

You are sock-puppet of Matthew Stannard. Again the same lies Matthew Stannard likes to repeat so often. Nothing in strong AI was written by me, see the history. Strong AI article was once merged with Artificial Intelligence, it is not right to create this article again by anybody, and as you did, it must be merged with Artificial Intelligence. And now I must say once again, that this is not an editing practice of Wikipedia, to replace the article with a text written only by a single user. No, I shall not edit your article, the *original* article must be edited normally. And, as I said already many times, why don't you want to edit the article normally, like all Wikipedia articles are edited, and add your changes? For the rest, please see the article's talk page, it is not a proper place here to talk all these thing once again. Matthew Stannard an Paul Beardsell, stop trolling. Tkorrovi 15:30, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
To be honest I did edit your article. Unfortunately this meant removing your stuff on strong AI and leaving the rest. However, I did put your strong AI work where it belonged.User: 9/12/04

The Humungous Image Tagging Project[edit]

Hi. You've helped with User:Sietse Snel/Fix common mistakes project, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)


Do you have specific reservations at the Moonstruck Diner, or does someone still need to do that? What about someone with a cell phone number to help coordinate? Respond at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC please. Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 23:02, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project[edit]

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Re: your note[edit]

You posted a note on my talk page about my vote in the ArbCom election. You noticed that votes had been registered both by Cribcage and Cribnotes, and you stated that one had been canceled.

I've reviewed the election notices. Can you refer me to the section which states that multiple usernames cannot vote from the same IP, regardless of whether they otherwise qualify? Thank you.

For the record: I was hardly "stuffing the ballot box." There is a clear notice posted on the Cribnotes userpage explaining why that account exists, and you'll note it hasn't been used since April. Since I've been forthright, you might have taken a moment and asked me about the discrepancy. Cribcage 00:17, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified images[edit]

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the imagesand I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 01:27, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

RFC pages on VfD[edit]

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:31, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Names of God[edit]

I have done substantial edits and additions to The names of God in Judaism. I would appreciate it if you can have a look and make any corrections if needed. Thanks. --Zappaz 20:34, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Main namespace cleanup[edit]

Heya, I moved the main namespace Danny article to User:Danny/old. There's not much of interest in the history, but should you want to keep it you're free to. --fvw* 03:00, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)


I am about to go on an extended WikiVacation. In light of that, I am unsure that it would be wise to act as an election monitor. Perhaps the two of you who remain are sufficient. Please contact me via email if you have any questions.

Regards, The Uninvited Co., Inc. 22:07, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

New York : thank you[edit]


Here we are :-). Usually, I offer flower to thank people. Or I put a flower stamp (see below), but somehow it did not fit with you, and I could not imagine offering you a flower.

So, after careful thought, I decided to offer you simply a sandwich in memory of this week end and discovering potato pancakes for Hannukah, pickles, pastrami and strange cakes.

I was sorry not to be able to say you good bye the other day and I hope you were not too unhappy of the miss at OSI. I am sure we will see each other again.

Thank again for taking care of me so well and remember to take care of yourself before taking care of others as well ;-)

SweetLittleFluffyThing 00:33, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC) WikiThanks.png

Thanks, and mediation[edit]

Thanks again for everything in New York. Here's a thankyou bagel to go with Anthere's sandwich. :) Bagel.

On another topic, I was moving the struck out mediators to the inactive section to keep it consistent, and Fvw had struck you out [7]. Are you really inactive or should you be moved back to the active section? Angela. 05:11, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

An odd question[edit]

Danny, the release of percentage totals in the latest election made me curious -- is there any way of knowing how many votes were cast back in July when Raul and I were elected? I find these sorts of things interesting, but if there's no way of knowing, don't worry about it. :-) Thanks for all your work for Wikipedia! Jwrosenzweig 19:47, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Kevin MacDonald[edit]

Please take a look at Talk:Kevin B. MacDonaldAndyL 14:43, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Problem with the WP:CSD proposal[edit]

Since you have facilitated other important votes, I am hoping you can look into a problem with Wikipedia:Proposal to expand WP:CSD.

The original author (User:Blankfaze) and another admin (User:Neutrality) have reverted and protected it to prevent addition of a new proposal which both of them personally disagree with. These two have assumed a mantle of "ownership " of the proposal all along, but protecting the page to prevent inclusion of a proposal change is outside any bounds. The page should certainly be unprotected, and the new proposal added. I had posted earlier about adding it on the talk page, and no objections were indicated. If this issue persists, then the vote should certainly be postponed. According to Wikipedia:Survey guidelines, "Consensus must be reached about the nature of the survey before it starts." Thanks for your help. -- Netoholic @ 07:12, 2004 Dec 30 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee Elections December 2005[edit]

Hello, there. I was wondering if you will be available to participate as an independent election organizing committee member in the December 2005 Arbitration Committee Elections? If so, may I adapt the 2004 AC election organizers statement for 2005? Thank you for your time. --Ryan! | Talk 18:48, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

  • OK, thanks. --Ryan! | Talk 23:36, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Could someone please start mediating? - Andre Engels 16:02, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)


The package containing the T-shirt and mug arrived the other day, they are both excellent and my friends and family are much impressed. I would just like to thank you again for both running the contest and supplying the prizes. - SimonP 02:51, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

re: Mediation[edit]

Hi Danny, Thanks for your note on my talk page re: mediation with user:Jewbacca. I don't have any dispute with him, to my knowledge, except for some odd messages sent to my account after I criticized a VfD he'd sponsored. I didn't find them theatening, or even personally-directed, but did find them irksome enough to lose my temper. I saw this mediation request as being about my having lost my temper -- a means of stirring up a conflict. My position is that there isn't a conflict: I'm not gravely offended, don't believe I said anything worthy of extended offense, and have no wish or intention to communicate with this user, or others involved, again. There are certainly other more productive things to do here, and my own projects include an article just voted to feature article status. Thanks again, and I appreciate your attention. Auto movil 00:45, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

House of Dolls[edit]

Hi Danny, maybe you know the answer to my question at Talk:Joy Division (World War II). --Zero 14:09, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

El Ghriba synagogue[edit]

This is now extant. I'll see if I can do something on Djerba. JFW | T@lk 22:56, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)


A couple of admins are now trying to block Gzornenplatz for 56 days. This strikes me as vigilantism. Your input would be appreciated at Thanks. 172 08:01, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

who? Adam 12:44, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)


Hi Danny! I decided to be brave and voice the wonderings of everyone that submited an article to your contest. Are you and the other judges going to reach a decision??? I hope so, because i would like to see other contests in the future. Cheers, muriel@pt 15:58, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Contest again[edit]

Hello Danny,

I am trying to organize an International writing contest on meta (see meta:International writing contest), maybe you want to have a look at this and join. Greetings from Berlin, Germany -- 07:25, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) (de:Benutzer:Achim Raschka, meta:User:Necrophorus)


Hi Danny, Just saw that you restarted this article. Had I done something stupid or did you just have so much more information that the old one was not needed any longer? Don't know if you remember, it's already six months ago. Happy New Year by the way. Get-back-world-respect 13:06, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I now see that I had tried to start an article that had already existed under another name. As it was an organization, I am not sure if the redirect should not be the other way round (Edelweiss Pirates --> Edelweißpiraten).? Get-back-world-respect 09:04, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Madagascar Plan[edit]

Can you please take a look at Madagascar Plan? The author's submissions to Talk:Holocaust make me wary.AndyL 03:29, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Saint-Pierre and Miquelon[edit]

Hey, what was this [8] about? An intervention? — Davenbelle 02:32, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)

re: "Huh?"

I just converted the infobox on the Saint-Pierre and Miquelon page to a wiki table from an html table and saved it in an /infobox subpage. Just 4 minutes later, you copied the table into the main article; this was before I'd gotten to updating the article to use the new infobox. I'd like to know what that was about. — Davenbelle 02:51, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)


No need to get huffy. I saw an infobox on a separate page, something that we do not do. I realized that it was better in wikiformat than in the old html format (and I did about half of the original wikiboxes in html), so I moved it over to where it should be. I will accept your thank your for saving you that step, and respond with, "you're welcome." Danny 02:57, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I didn't mean to sound "huffy". I am not aware of any policy about not putting infoboxes on subpages. I have voted in favor of doing this on country pages, which I see you voted against. The infobox you moved included a link to edit itself, which was the whole point of my little experiment. Moving it to the main article resulted in a link to edit something other than what you pasted into the page. I expect that when you did html tables the wikitable format was not available; I've been trying to focus on older html infoboxes in order to kill two birds with one stone. — Davenbelle 03:12, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)

Hi again,

Nice colors - someone slip some LSD into your talk page?

I want to let you know that I've read more of the history of subpages and while I'm not really happy about it, I'm not going to pee in the wind, either. I've, ah, normalized the Saint-Pierre and Miquelon infobox and placed a {{del}} tag on the subpage; same with Tuvalu. I also did an infobox for Nepal in a subpage using the new template; Mav swapped back the table when the template parameters changed and broke it. I'd go fix it, but don't think cantus and netoholic need more instances to maintain while they sort out the parameters. I'd be happy to be involved still. — Davenbelle 08:55, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)

Blocking over content disputes[edit]

Please see WP:AN#Carrp. --fvw* 19:59, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)

Discovery Channel Pompeii images[edit]

Hi, Danny. User:CryptoDerk tells me that you spoke with the Discovery Channel to get permission to use their Pompeii photos in the 'pedia. Could you clarify this at the image description pages at the Commons? The pages just say "Copyrighted, free for any use." without any mention that they were obtained with permission or from whom. Also, did the film creators really say "any use" (i.e., other people could copy the images ad infinitum?).

I'm just trying to keep the Commons nice and tidy. Thanks in advance! -- hike395 05:40, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi Danny - I think this is all clear now, although I'm going to add a little more to the image pages on Commons just to be sure. I'll also check to see if I can make the local pages clearer. This is a bit unusual for everyone I guess - a wonderful development, and one I expect will happen more. I'm sure you've seen others of the image offers on the Foundation email - I think we will be getting a lot more of these soon :) Talk to you later, have fun getting us the dinosaur pics! -- sannse (talk) 17:22, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Danny, for your work in getting permission for these great images. Everything is clear now. Thanks again! -- hike395 16:26, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)


It's one thing to block. But I believe you are required to explain why you did this. I believe you are required to explain the block so please do it before I have to seek your removal as administrator. Obese reasoning is not required just a reasonable explanation. Ollieplatt 10:33, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Do you mean obtuse or arcane? Obese means overweight. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 20:06, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)




If he's reformed, why shouldn't he be an admin? If he's not reformed, why's he here? According to you yourself, he's reformed. Since he accepted my nomination, I'm restoring the nomination... as well as the talk between us that you deleted. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 07:53, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Check Mike's talk page... I've decided that I might as well be friendly, since staying bitter doesn't seem worth it. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 08:13, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)


Hey Danny, here is the translation of the Belize article. I added it to --webkid 08:42, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

can i have a talk with u in hebrew?[edit]

ok Danny 12:31, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC) תשמע יש כמה בעיות בויקיפדיה העברית שאני לא בטוח אם אתה מודע אליהם הבעיה הראשונה היא חופש הביטוי שם לא נותנים לכתוב מאמרים על כל נושא שמתקשר לסקס או לבידור שזה פשוט מעצבן ממש משמרת הצניעות למשל כתבתי הרבה מאמרים שמופעים בהמון שפות אבל הם החליטו למחוק אותם בלי משאל!!! לפי דעתי צריך שיהיה חוק שאם מאמר כתוב באיקס שפות אז יהיה אסור למחוק אותו (אם הוא לא השחתה) הבעיה השניה ופחות חמורה היא האוביקטיביות שמה בקשר לערכים שנוגעים ליהודים, לישראל ולטרור שמקבלים ציויון שמאלני-מרכזי

אותי הם מכנים טרול וכו'

לפי דעתי כל ערך הוא לא השחתה מוחלטת (הבל או "כשדדגשדגגשד" אסור למחוק אותו בלי משאל) גם אם הוא נחשב "איזוטרי" או משהו כזה.

אני יודע שיש לך תפקיד בכיר פה ככה שאתה יכול לעזור. אגב אם אתה רוצה לדעת אני תרמתי לויקי העברית יותר מחמישים ערכים וגם תרמתי לויקי האנגלית (אפשר לראות בהיסטוריה של האיי-פי) מקווה שתעזור

Moses the Black[edit]

I didn't create the article. I only categorised it and sognaled it as a stub. I was thinking the same about the naming convention, though. --Alif 12:49, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The original article seems to be better written and more concise, you can delete the newer one, if you care. --Alif 13:06, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi! That was a nice surprise! I would like to send you may address but i dont know your email. muriel@pt 15:41, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Belize Unrest[edit]

I don't have the time to do it right now, and when I eventually do it, it won't be news anymore! Try to recruit a translator from the lists of Greek Wikipedians and Multilingual Wikipedians. I recommend User:Project2501a. Etz Haim 15:51, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Danny, I can do the translation, no problem. (wikistress +1 :D) Just gimmie a deadline, just to see where i can fit it in my schedual. Project2501a 16:10, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Translation DONE. Needs reviewing. Project2501a 23:44, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Can you please translate and post en:2005 Belize unrest. Thanks . Danny

Done (Finnish). —kooo 17:54, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)


Hi Danny why did you all of a sudden take a wikibreak? Waerth 06:54, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I hope your break is a finite one... Come back soon! Dysprosia 07:39, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yes - please, please, come back. --mav 18:37, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Enjoy getting your head up out of the clouds for a while, but don't forget us -- you're an invaluable voice of reason and I'm going to miss you while you're gone. — Catherine\talk 22:40, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)


I'll need some support at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. I've already had to unblock Gz twice tonight. Will you be able to explain to them that the Arbom rejected an indefinite block on Gz based on any connection with Wik? Also, please keep an eye on Wikipedia:Blocklog in case he is blocked again. Thanks. 172 08:23, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Autofellatio poll[edit]

Hi. There is a poll going on at Talk:Autofellatio. We'd appreciate your vote. —Cantus 04:20, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation meeting[edit]

Template:Mediation-meeting Please edit the side box here (be brief) to update when you might be able to attend. Thanks. -==SV 22:05, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Next Danny's Contest[edit]

Danny - I know you have something in mind already, but I have *THE PERFECT* idea for your next contest. Ask me in IRC to explain it (I'd rather not post here). →Raul654 05:24, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)


Hi. Could you please explain why you deleted that template back in Jan 2005 without a discussion on TFD? Such would be greatly appreciated. Vacuum c 23:51, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

General Jewish Labor Union[edit]

Hi Danny, there's a question about the correct name of the group on at the Talk:General Jewish Labor Union page, would you mind weighing in? Jayjg (talk) 03:46, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

System of a Down[edit]

It looks like MrHate is right, as all the more official sites agree with him, but I haven't looked that closely. I probably won't have time to do much more for a day or two... probably Saturday, same as you. Still, I pointed both album pages to Talk:System of a Down to centralize discussion and encouraged the citing of sources. I've also mentioned the Three Revert Rule and warned both users against edit warring. Tuf-Kat 03:29, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)


I was wondering if you'd have the time or interest to look into this request for mediation between myself and User:El_C. I remember you having produced compromise between 172 and myself in regards to the introduction of the Hitler page. With that, and our own resolved differences, I hold you in particularly high esteem as a mediator. Of course, if you are otherwise occupied or disinterested I completely understand. Thank you for your time, (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 01:46, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi Danny,
I'm Wally, and I'm representing El_C in the dispute between he and Sam Spade. We were both pleased to hear you'd accepted mediation duties on this issue.
I think all parties concerned are anxious that this be dealt with in a fair manner first and foremost and an amicable one next to that. Sam has repeatedly expressed his wish that this dispute not go to arbitration, and El_C echoes this, although we do feel that certain improper and uncivil behavior on Sam's part need to be addressed.
I'd like to work out a time when the four of us — myself, yourself, Sam and El_C — could all meet on IRC and attempt to get some dialogue going. El_C has recently been recovering from some rather nasty medical issues and thus his schedule is not terribly fluid; however, I'm confident this can be worked out.
Thanks again for accepting mediation,
Wally 18:30, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't agree w wally's characterization of my position, as I have made clear to him a few times now. Have a look @ WP:RfM#User:El_C_and_User:Sam_Spade and the links there for more information. Cheers, (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 19:53, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'd be glad to discuss or be contacted by wikipedia Email, IRC, or any of the means necessary available, by any interested parties. Info @ User:Sam Spade/Info. Cheers, (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 00:20, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Calcutta -> Kolkata name change[edit]

Hi there. I noticed you voted in the Wikipedia:Naming policy poll to keep the Wikipedia policy of naming an article with the most familiar English name. You may not be aware that another attempt has begun to rename the Calcutta article to Kolkata, which is blatantly not the most common name of the city, whether it's official or not. If you want to vote on the issue you can do so at Talk:Calcutta. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 13:48, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Glückel of Hameln[edit]

Could I ask you to have a look at my questions at Talk:Glückel of Hameln? Looks like the article was originally yours. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:27, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Danny, you might be able to query on the Hebrew Wikipedia. Since I don't read and write Hebrew, I'm in no position to do that. -- Jmabel | Talk 16:23, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Revisionist Zionism[edit]

Could you please take a look at the dispute at Revisionist Zionism? User:Guy Montag is trying to censor material critical of Revisionist Zionism, particularly documented evidence of fascist sympathies among various Revisionists in the early 1930s. AndyL 22:35, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

My e-mail[edit]

Hi Danny. Did you get my e-mail of a week or so ago? Jayjg (talk) 21:30, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mediation Request?[edit]

Hi Danny,

I'm writing regarding the proposed mediation between El_C and Sam Spade for which there was a request you act as an officiator. This was around two weeks ago, and I've heard nothing further about it since. Are you still able to act as mediator? I and El_C, whom I represent, are both very anxious that this go forward. Please contact me as soon as is practicable if you have any questions, and I would very much like to organize a time and date for you, El_C, Sam and myself to meet and begin work on this process.



EB2004 indexing[edit]

You put section breaks into Wikipedia:2004 Encyclopedia topics/1 (I fixed a missing =). I can see that's useful for a more efficient edit, but each time we cut out a bunch of blue links, the number of items in the section becomes less than 100, so it's less useful as a guide, and breaking up the list makes it harder to calculate % done. If we have divisions, would it be more logical to put them at every 100th item of the original list, so that we can get some idea of progress are we hack away? Indexing the list as it stands today seems a little arbitrary.

Come to think, is the extra efficiency worth while? Page 1 currently is about 22K.

Similar comment on the start you made on annotating Wikipedia:2004 Encyclopedia topics. Shouldn't we use the original list of items? For example, section 1 originally started with 12-Tone Music. It seems more logical - any objections if I make the change? David Brooks 05:35, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I read your explanation (User talk:DavidBrooks); division is a good thing. My point was that dividing it into 100's based on the list as it stood on Mar 18 seems a little... arbitrary. No big deal anyway. And I'll experiment with something more informative than "1". David Brooks 20:31, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Censorship policy in Hebrew Wikipedia[edit]


I was wandering in he.WP and got to our "miznon"(where people debate policiesויקיפדיה:מזנון) And I saw a debate about censoring few article that some wiki memeber translated from english wikipedia (the articles were about few porn-star actresses) at first they started that debate because they hated this guy.. and then decided to prohibit all articles about porn in wikipedia, because they say it's a display of disrespect... I tried to talk about it in the session they opened, but they even censored me! after 3 times of being censored and unable to continue the debate they did there, I turned to the "discussion" tab of this session and there tried to explain they shouldn't decide for others what to censor... they gave the same excuses and swaggered that they won't have any porno article there! (looking at the en.WP and fr.WP I saw that they don't censor this kind of stuff.. and again i remind that the person who wrote the articles translated them from en.WP)

I think it's outrageous that they took themselves the LIBERTY to limit other's LIBERTY by CENSORSHIP policy! (and this is all happening under the banner "The Free Encyclopedia").. Trying to explain them the meaning of an encyclopedia and even mentioning Denis Diderot didn't help... I debated it a bit in the irc channel of #wikipedia and #wikimedia and was told to approach you and you might help since you know hebrew and has the ability to maybe persuade them...

Please help me make he.WP free for all opinions and not ruled by SOME people that THINK they know what's GOOD/BAD and wish to ENFORCE their opinions on ALL of the others.

Thank you.


Armenian Genocide Mediation[edit]

Hi Danny,

In my role as an admin, I've been following the developments over the Armenian Genocide article. I've been asked to step in on several occasions and now things are getting way out of hand.

Coolcat and Fadix both accuse each other of POV editing and as a result the page was reverted numerous times, and the talk page was left with a grand total of 11 archives of discussion.

An anon posted an order on Fadix's user page to have his edits checked by Coolcat, but requests to developers (User:Jamesday) to check whether this IP is Coolcat or some other disputant impersonating him, have given me no results as of yet. Coolcat has denied it was him, and as he seems to know IPs can be tracked, I'm leaning towards thinking he's telling the truth.

It looks like both parties are willing to mediate, but Jwrosenzweig (preferred mediator of User:Fadix) seems to be absent. I know RFM is currently not fully functional, but would you be willing to sort out this mess, or at least get an other mediator to look at it. I'm afraid RfC or arbitration would be detrimental to the already tense atmosphere between the disputants. -- Mgm|(talk) 08:46, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Mike Garcia's latest e-mail message[edit]

Hello, Danny. I replied to the e-mails you sent to me. Feel free to e-mail me back. -- Mike Garcia | talk 18:41, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Danny, thank you for voting for me in my adminship nomination. I really appreciate your support. Best, SlimVirgin 00:19, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Mike Garcia[edit]

Ah, hello. I'd come to believe you were incommunicado.

The Mike Garcia situation is as follows: two users, an anon and MrHate, have come to the AMA regarding the pages for Ned's Atomic Dustbin and the System of a Down Hypnotize/Mesmerize controversy, respectively. In each page, Mike Garcia is specifically noted as reverting others' changes more often than is acceptable and making rude comments (including threatening a revert war: see Talk:Ned's Atomic Dustbin). I've referred them both to you and Guanaco, as you two have authority with this user that is better utilized than the normal channels, with the hope that it can be settled outside the dispute resolution process. However, if the AMA receives anymore complaints, an injunction will be necessary against this behavior.

On an unrelated note, have you received my messages regarding the El_C/Sam Spade dispute? Are you still available to mediate for this? Thanks in advance. Wally 00:47, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, if the situation for one of two is resolved, please let that user know to withdraw their request for assistance — all too often, users post asking for help, solve the issue themselves and then forget to tell us that!
Also, don't worry about the mediation, I just wanted to make sure you were still willing to do it. I hope the life troubles get cleared up both quickly and amicably. Let me know when you're available. Wally 18:30, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Biweekly special article[edit]

Dear Fact and Reference Check member,

After many months, the biweekly special article has been brought back! The article we will be referencing is Titan (moon). Please do your best to help out!

I'm asking all members to verify at least three facts in the article, and I'd really appreciate it if you could try and help with this. We have about 19 members, so if even 3/4 of us try and fulfil this 'dream', that'll be 45 references!

If you need some information on how to use footnotes, take a look at Wikipedia:Footnote3, which has a method of autonumbering footnotes. Unfortunately, they produce brackets around the footnotes, but it seems to be our best alternative until they integrate the footnote feature request code into MediaWiki. You may be interested in voting for the aforementioned feature request.


Frazzydee| 20:03, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)


  • Articles: Roquebrune-Cap-Martin
  • Worth doing because: It will round out my Florestan I, Prince of Monaco article.
  • Originally requestion by: Danny 04:40, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Status: Finished.
  • Other notes: I may have made a few mistakes in the translation; my French is a little rusty. Ben Standeven 22:53, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Does someone want to review this before I move it down to the list of completed translations? -- Jmabel | Talk 02:43, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

      • We've improved the translations, I reckon it can be moved

Several "lists of things Wikipedia hasn't got"[edit]

We have Wikipedia:2004 Encyclopedia topics, Wikipedia:1911 Encyclopedia topics and Wikipedia:List of encyclopedia topics (generated from various sources). Beyond a mere "tiding up" exercise I can see several advantages to merging the lists. Does anyone object if I do that? Pcb21| Pete 17:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Good idea. - SimonP 18:03, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
I think the lists should be kept separate. When checking for redirects, I know the sources of each list, and this makes it easier to eliminate articles. Please do not merge them! Danny 20:28, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Ok, good that I checked first :). What I actually had in mind was to create a merged list but equipped with three columns of tick boxes to indicate whether the title came from 1911, 2004 or Magnus' list. The idea is that if the same name appears on several lists it will have several ticks and stick out as a particularly important topic for us to cover. The ticks will mean that you will still be able to refer to the correct source, and so your life will not get any more difficult. What do you think? Pcb21| Pete 08:02, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

-Thought I would copy my response to your talk page to make sure you saw it... you've been doing absolutely brilliant work on these lists so it would be a sin to make things difficult for you - would the above scheme make things difficult for you? Pcb21| Pete 18:35, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Redirects and capitalization[edit]

Also, do you have an opinion on the discussion at Wikipedia talk:2004 Encyclopedia topics#Redirects and capitalization? I'd appreciate your input as leader of the project. David Brooks 01:15, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Sorry, didn't notice your private message until you were off of IRC. Yes, I've looked at the article. Nothing I knew about before, so I had nothing to contribute. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:06, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

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