# User talk:Davemck

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## Automata vs. automaton

I disagree with your alteration of the page Von Neumann universal constructor. Automaton is the particular pattern of cell states, which defines a particular machine of some function; this may be a self-replicator, a general constructor, a Turing machine, or some other, lesser capable machine. Automata is the general term, which for the cellular case refers to the total set of finite state automatons which are organised in a lattice network; the *chessboard* if you will. So, it is with cellular automata that I work, in the design and characterisation of cellular automatons, such as my partial constructor. William R. Buckley (talk) 21:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

An automaton is a machine, and automata is the general class. When one speaks of many automatons, then we have automata. For instance, a finite state automaton (see the article) is a singular device, and a collection of many of these are known as (a set of) finite state automata. Further, when referring to the collection of such automatons, and when they are organised into a rectilinear grid (lattice), we call them cellular automata. However, the specific pattern of a machine, as expressed within a system of cellular automata, is called an automaton. That many automata are used in the construction of a single automaton is quite irrelevant regarding the proper naming of such.
One clear source of reference to the naming given in my edits to Wikipedia articles are my papers. You might also consider the works of Daniel Mange, or the many others who have written on the subject of von Neumann cellular automata.
William R. Buckley (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Consider, also, the definition provided here: http://www.yourdictionary.com/automaton William R. Buckley (talk) 18:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Fairly simple, automaton is the Greek singular and automata the plural. In computing, finite state automata are common, but so is a finite state automaton. Automatons is just plain wrong (though perhaps in US English not, I do UK English and I am a bit picky with this kind of stuff?) SimonTrew (talk) 12:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

## Charles Savage (DAB)

Hey there

I see you edited this on 12 April 2009 (which happens to be my birthday. 12 April 2008 was too. Odd, that).

You might want to take a look at it. I've added another entry which comes ultimately from Medellín but I am not too happy about it really, cos it gives undue prominence to a guy who hasn't even an entry in WP. But I am not sure how to fix it, you may have a clue. SimonTrew (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

## RE: The Fellowship (Christian organization) and the AIDS Connection

Actually, I think your restored phrasing is pretty good. It merely implies a causal connection without outright attributing the rise in AIDS to the organization, which is consistent with the citation in Sharlet's book. Uncle Dick (talk) 18:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It's actually Sharlet's phrasing. It's the relevant sentence verbatim from pg. 328 of The Family. Davemck (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpful clean up on the Fellowship page.Likesausages (talk) 03:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. Davemck (talk) 22:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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## "gm"?

I see you using "gm" as an edit summary. For what does that stand? 17:37, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

## Knuth repeated

I see nothing humorous about the repeated name in the caption on Knuth's page. Also jokes aren't what Wikipedia is about. Perhaps you could explain the joke and say why it should be kept thanks. It would be good to put that in a a FAQ on the talk page so it could be referred to if there is some good reason. Dmcq (talk) 23:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• The humor is completely subjective; I find it mildly amusing, especially since it's in the section on Knuth's own legendary sense of humor. The 2nd Knuth is on Appelbaum's shirt. Of course, you could say that's not a real Knuth, only a picture of Knuth -- but that's true of the other Knuth as well. I personally don't care whether he's listed twice in the caption; my purpose was to point out that the caption has alternated between 1 & 2 mentions for a long time, as you can see from the history (most easily by looking for changes of 16 or 17 bytes). I won't attempt to change anything back, so be my guest. Davemck (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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## Paraprosdokian examples

Hey there,

First off, wanted to say thanks for your continued work on Paraprosdokian.

I'm the user who edited the examples section to include The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates. My edit was reverted because the source didn't specify the lyrics quoted paraprosdokian, per the hidden comment.

My question, then, is why the need for this requirement? The article does a very nice job of defining what paraprosdokian is; why have the blanket rule of requiring examples specified as such, rather than assessing each entry on its own merit? If my entry had been deleted because its status as paraprosdokian were contested, then I suppose I'd be a bit more understanding; from the edit notes, this seems not to be the case.

Thanks again for the work on the page!

198.161.143.149 (talk) 03:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi .149. The hidden comment is based on a consensus discussed here. It's derived from the WP principles "No original research" and "Verifiability, not truth". Essentially, we want reliable sources to decide what's a paraprosdokian, not us editors. Davemck (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation! 164.68.25.123 (talk) 19:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

## Thanks

Hi. I see you started to do the huge reparation of Dr.saze's (and other editors') damages. I want to thank you for all of us and I have also some good news. You can have a rest from your hard work because Dr.saze offer himself he will delete all AFI nominations. But if you can delete it yourself we have not any problem because your work is well-done. Happy further editing. - TobRob (talk) 10:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, TobRob. After starting, I see that other editors besides Dr.saze have added nominations. I'll work on those, over time. Davemck (talk) 18:32, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Really? That should be mentioned at the Wikiproject talk page. Luckily it is not that durable Dr.saze. He is doing now better work. Thank you again. - TobRob (talk) 16:45, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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## Multics reference

If you had actually looked at the reference, you will see it had two dates on it. So you don't like the way I tried to indicate that - now please fix it in some way that you find acceptable. Noel (talk) 22:27, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

@Jnc: (heh, heh) Actually, I did read the ref & saw the 2 dates. But if you had actually looked :-) at the result of your edit, you'll see that only 1996 was used, because the {{cite web}} template allows only one date= parm; if there are multiples, it uses only the last one. I'll leave the resolution up to you -- maybe "|year=1996 |orig-year=1989" which gives "(1996)[1989]".
(Incidentallly, I got to the Multics page from Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls.) Davemck (talk) 23:34, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I did see the error. But I didn't know how to fix it, so I figured I'd leave the data in the source, so at least it was visible if someone went to edit the page.
Your suggested fix sounds good; I'll add it - thanks. I do wish you'd done that to start with, since then we both wouldn't be wasting our time with this. Noel (talk) 23:58, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, are you sure that Marina Raskova last rank was lieutenante colonel? Because I have other sources. Do skorogo --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 22:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi I have no knowledge of Marina Raskova. I edited the page only to fix the error 'more than one value for the "rank" parameter'. I just chose the higher rank. I'll leave it to you to decide what it should be. Davemck (talk) 22:50, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello as you can see here her rank when she died in a crash-landing was that of mayor... I shall put this, spassibo. http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=653 --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 23:11, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

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## dup param in Shishijimicin A

In this edit] you removed a duplicate parameter. I had looked at this and couldn't tell which one was correct so I left it alone. What was your basis? MB 13:37, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

First, I'm not a chemist & know nothing of the subject. I found CC1C.. in PubChem and O=C7C.. in ChemSpider. It was originally O=C7C but Graeme Bartlett added CC1C (forgetting to remove O=C7C). I chose CC1C on the theory that the most recent edit is an improvement (not always true, I know). Also, since CC1C occurred later in the Chembox & the last of duplicates is the one used, my edit made no change to the displayed article. But I defer to anyone who knows more about it than I do. Davemck (talk) 15:52, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't know anything either. I wasn't comfortable picking the second one just because it is the one displayed or the most recent change. Your logic seems good and now that I look, Graeme Bartlett seems to be knowledgable in the field. Thanks. MB 18:36, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

## haha

in all the shenanigans one gets the one wrong - sometimes it is very heartening to think there is something over the shoulder, I'll take it that way - thanks - its the down the wallside format of the earlier tag that got me - thanks JarrahTree 23:57, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

## Thank You

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## Revert

Hey, sorry for that. Looks like I again prested the rollback link while trying to view the diff of an other edit. Kpgjhpjm 01:52, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

No problem! (but it was interesting for a couple of minutes :-) Davemck (talk) 01:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

## Thanks for cleaning up after me

Three times you've cleaned up after me in places like this. Thank you. Where do you see those problems? I'm hoping I can look there myself and clean up after myself. 03:17, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Glad to help -- it's what we do :-). I was working off Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. The errors also show up at the top of the edit screen when you press "Show preview". Davemck (talk) 03:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Indeed! It is what we do. I'm using AWB for the cleanup I'm working on, so Show preview isn't available. I'll experiment with some regex code to see if I can keep that problem from happening. I'll look in on Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls now and again too. I was able to clean it out except for the portals, which I couldn't figure out. Anyway, thanks again and keep up the good work. 05:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)