User talk:David Gerard
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- 1 LinuxInsider references brought to RSN
- 2 Clive Jacobs
- 3 Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey
- 4 Deletion of SOBI2 page
- 5 Vandalism
- 6 Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
- 7 Waterloo train station listed at Redirects for discussion
- 8 Your feedback matters: Final reminder to take the global Wikimedia survey
- 9 Deletion of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyraCom
- 10 Deletion of draft page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EdGE_Networks&action=edit&redlink=1
- 11 Nahid Afrin
- 12 Delete of FrontAccounting on wiki comparison of accounting software?
- 13 Speedy deletion nomination of Cymascope
- 14 Econlib
- 15 Review/change page
- 16 Ethereum Classic Page Issues
- 17 Proposal for a page
- 18 Hackathon to help Wikipedia 1.0
- 19 Ethereum Classic
- 20 Editing News #1—2017
- 21 Dispute resolution on Ethereum
- 22 Deletion
- 23 Speedy deletion nomination of Hypermobility syndrome
- 24 Art Renewal Center
- 25 Puffery in the Foresight Institute page
- 26 Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
- 27 Music Releases as Sources
- 28 Talk:Moscow Institute of Electronic Engineering (disambiguation)
- 29 Speedy deletion declined: Nassim Haramein
- 30 Deletion of Alejandro Rioja
- 31 Invitation to Admin confidence survey
- 32 Nomination of Bitcoin Magazine for deletion
- 33 Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
- 34 IOTA (technology)
- 35 Adjusted text
- 36 Please
- 37 But the question is
- 38 Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
LinuxInsider references brought to RSN
Hi David, I just followed up on this discussion on Knowledgebattle's talk page on WP:RSN. I pinged you there but I want to be sure you're notified. Thanks. ZackTheCardshark (talk) 21:39, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Deletion of SOBI2 page
Hi David, you deleted the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOBI2 I just wanted to update the information on it. Could you please restore the page to let me update the information. Many thanks!! TrinitySu (talk) 14:55, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- I've restored it to draft space: Draft:SOBI2. At the moment it has no third-party references at all, and probably wouldn't survive WP:AFD; you should probably add good third-party sourcing before you move it back to mainspace - David Gerard (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello, jist letting you know about this edit: . I've just reverted and not taken any further action, but you could take it further if you wish. Thanks, 07:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Waterloo train station listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Waterloo train station. Since you had some involvement with the Waterloo train station redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Useddenim (talk) 00:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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Deletion of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyraCom
It appears you deleted our company page. We'd like to clean it up to be more resourceful and informative - could you please change the page to a draft state so we may have the chance to address the issues?
Hi, I would like to address the issues with the page, could you please return it to draft stage?
Hello, I saw that this page is edit protected. There's quite enough material available to source this article. Would you like to help in its creation? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo 17:09, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- FYI - I've gone ahead and unprotected the page. Looks like circumstances have changed - she was the subject of a fatwa over one of her performances earlier this month - and I think she can now meet the notability guideline. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:04, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Delete of FrontAccounting on wiki comparison of accounting software?
(cur | prev) 21:19, 29 September 2016 David Gerard (talk | contribs) . . (38,716 bytes) (-24) . . (Removing link(s) to "Frontaccounting": rm redlink (AFDed). (TW)) (undo)
Just wondering why Frontaccounting was removed?
- Per deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frontaccounting - David Gerard (talk) 11:23, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Cymascope
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If the statement is significant, we can source it to an independent third party establishing its significance. You have stated that this is the primary source, we should use a secondary source instead. And everything on that site is self-published, in that they don't have any scholarly peer review, but that page especially so since it is a blog post. I cannot see why we would use a blog post at a think-tank as a primary source instead of a reliable independent secondary source, especially since we already have one of those. Guy (Help!) 07:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello User:David Gerard, because you have done benefiting edits to surname pages in past, was wondering if you can correct Maiorana page (look if the links are in right place or if they are even needed, and add/change written info). Here's the last version by User:Xezbeth . If you can't do it then please let me know if you know some else you could, thanks.--Theo Mandela (talk) 03:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Ethereum Classic Page Issues
Hi User:David Gerard, I would like to know how we can improve the Ethereum Classic Page, it says we have too many 'references to primary sources', however Ethereum page has a similar amount of primary sources, yet it does not have the same issues. How can we resolve or improve this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bestteamever171 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- The Ethereum page didn't before, but advocates keep putting the primary sources back. It needs a cleanout again.
- Basically, you need to keep pretty strictly to reliable sources, third-party ones. If something about ETC isn't in a third-party source, it's almost certainly not worth noting in the article - David Gerard (talk) 22:55, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
The DAO Hardfork did not occur on the Ethereum Classic chain. It is stated in many of the articles cited in the page.
- I think you should readd the sentence on the Dao fork in the opening paragraph of the Ethereum page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warzuckerberg22 (talk • contribs) 23:05, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Proposal for a page
Dear David Gerard,
As previously you have contributed to Wikipedia in regards to financial articles, would you, please, consider writing an article on Creamfinance? It is a global financial services company that provides personal finance products in emerging markets. The company was ranked as the second fastest-growing company in Europe in 2016. Creamfinance is employing over 220 people and operating in 7 countries both within and outside of Europe – Latvia, Poland, Czech Republic, Georgia, Denmark and Mexico with an IT office in Austria.
If you wish I have put together a first draft for the page and can send it you.
According to Wikipedia guidelines I want to underline that I am a Project Manager at Golin Riga and I have been approached by Creamfinance to help with their representation on Wikipedia. Aozolins-golin-riga (talk) 08:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Hackathon to help Wikipedia 1.0
Hello! You're listed as a member of the Wikipedia 1.0 team, so I thought you might be interested in this Hackathon on August 13-18 in my home town of Potsdam, New York, right after Wikimania. Let me know if you'd like to participate. Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 04:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- EWRONGCONTINENT, but cheers :-) - David Gerard (talk) 08:36, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
The DAO Hardfork did not occur on the Ethereum Classic chain. It is stated in many of the articles cited in the page.
- It's a pretty overwhelmingly important event to the history of ETC, though ... - David Gerard (talk) 20:50, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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User:David_Gerard - I hereby notify you of my request for dispute resolution regarding the lead edit on Ethereum. You know where I stand. It would be sensible for you to participate in this discussion.
The article you deleted, I was going to try to make it better, and I may not do it fast. Please tell me what to do with my deleted article. Thank you. Please refer to Winner 42's talk page. Also, I'm not really good with Wikipedia. Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 14:07, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- Which article? I zapped a pile of expired PRODs. I can restore it to a draft with no problems - David Gerard (talk) 14:09, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Hypermobility syndrome
Hello David Gerard,
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted, you can, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.
- In case there's useful content, I've marked it for merging, or if there isn't, just redirecting - I think it's a useful article title, but should point users to the EDS page - David Gerard (talk) 15:09, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Art Renewal Center
I have an undergraduate degree in Art History from York U, and am currently doing my master's degree at Queen's. I noticed you have correctly noted that on the Art Renewal Center website, there are insufficient secondary sources. I have taken it upon myself to fix this problem that you have identified. This will take me a long time. Please assist in adding reliable sources. Also, some of the current sources are fine, but they are missing things like the author, date, publisher, etc. Perhaps you could assist in this as well. In this way, we can improve the article together.
- The above is a blocked sockpuppet on Art Renewal Center, an article in need of a serious cleanout - David Gerard (talk) 08:48, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Puffery in the Foresight Institute page
Hi David, I've removed some more puffery from the article. Can you please take another look, and let me know which specific areas need more cleanup? Thanks, Dandv 21:47, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- It's good enough I've untagged it now, nice one :-) I'll go through it more at my leisure, but it's at least OK - David Gerard (talk) 12:54, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 04:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Music Releases as Sources
Hi. I understand you have deleted my article Neelix (musician), as if there are no reliable sources on that article. May I ask you a question, are music releases as a discography reliable sources? If you have a reply, please sent me a reply here or my talk page as soon as you can. Thanks. Ivan Milenin (talk) 18:27, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- Usually not enough. e.g. Discogs is not a RS. You want sourcing that satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (music) - David Gerard (talk) 19:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- What about music releases from official label websites and stores? For example, Simon Patterson has some releases on Armada Music and on Perfecto Fluoro with a song of Whites of Her Eyes, with stores of iTunes, Beatport, Armada Music, including his own website: djsimonpatterson.com. Could that help? Ivan Milenin (talk) 19:31, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
This page has important discussion, could you plz restore this page and rename it into Talk:Moscow Institute of Electronic Engineering (over current redirect). Alex Spade (talk) 14:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Nassim Haramein
Hello David Gerard. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Nassim Haramein, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Page significantly different than the one deleted ten years ago. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 13:56, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
Deletion of Alejandro Rioja
Hello, I'd like you to look over this page that does not seem to meet the notability guidelines.
Invitation to Admin confidence survey
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Nomination of Bitcoin Magazine for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bitcoin Magazine is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted, or merged with Vitalik Buterin. I notified you as you have contributed to Buterin's page.
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Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
|Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
Editorial: Conservation data
The IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters.
Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals.
ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden.
Re IOTA (technology). I just tidied up a bit, removing some unsourced/tagged stuff, and added a large number of requests for citations. Thought another pair of eyes might be helpful, should you be interested. N2e (talk) 23:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
There has been a request to inform all who voted in the RfC about interlinking accounts involved with paid editing about the following adjustment in the "statement of issue" on Sept 18th, 2017.
It was clarified that this effort will help deal not only with impersonation of specific Wikipedians but also claims of being in good standing made by those who are not. Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:59, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
But the question is
- Something cheap I expect, the whole point of cocktails is to make bathtub rotgut drinkable!
- (I haven't had one of those cocktails in years, I should make one again just to remind myself.) - David Gerard (talk) 21:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
|Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
Annotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead?
ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning.
As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing (WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided.
Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions.
An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page.