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The following archive covers messages posted on Davykamanzi's talk page during the 2012 calendar year.
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- Thanks. I'm currently adding content to make it meet the user page guidelines. Davykamanzi (talk) 11:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Davy, it's hard to see how adding content will help. You essentially need to slash the page and keep perhaps only a small amount of information about yourself (and not make it look like an article). And whatever small amount of information you keep shouldn't include private information, whether it be your date of birth, the names of your family members, where you go to school, or any psychiatric issues. Some editors are concerned that your parents would not approve of your making such information public. Obviously, you are welcome to keep Wikipedia-related information on the page.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Bbb23 has said it all. I agree. Please keep this private information off your pages. And it shouldn't look like an article. Dougweller (talk) 15:18, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Davy, it's hard to see how adding content will help. You essentially need to slash the page and keep perhaps only a small amount of information about yourself (and not make it look like an article). And whatever small amount of information you keep shouldn't include private information, whether it be your date of birth, the names of your family members, where you go to school, or any psychiatric issues. Some editors are concerned that your parents would not approve of your making such information public. Obviously, you are welcome to keep Wikipedia-related information on the page.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Arkad World
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Removing Speedy at Arkad World
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February 2012
Hello Davykamanzi. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Arkad World, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.
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additional advice
I deleted Arkad World--in the absence of information regarding the extent to which it has "worked with some of the largest companies in Africa" ,I don't think it asserts importance. I would advise you not to re-create it unless you have references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases.
The advice Nog gave above is accurate. As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. DGG ( talk ) 18:13, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Nomination of Ligi Ndogo for deletion
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MfD nomination of User:Davykamanzi
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- Davy, I've deleted some of the personal information you had posted on your page there. You did a great job at formatting, providing links, and everything - but some editors may feel you are displaying too much personal information that would be better kept private; at least until you're a little older. I hope you understand the spirit in which this is done. Please do keep working on articles, but try to be careful about divulging information about you and your family. Feel free to come ask me if you have any questions, I'll try to help where I can. — Ched : ? 01:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- I put a redirect on the Western Stima page so there's nothing to worry about. Davykamanzi (talk) 20:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Blanking pages
You appear to have blanked 2013 FKF Division One play-offs and FKF Division One play-offs. Usually there is a better way to accomplish things than blanking articles. What were you intending to do? I'm happy to help you carry out your intended action. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- I wanted to delete them but I forgot to add the deletion tag. Davykamanzi (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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This is in reference to Robert Mambo Mumba, John Machethe Muiruri, Mike Okoth Origi, Arnold Origi Otieno, Mathare Youth F.C., Mahakama, Bandari F.C. (Kenyan football club), and possibly others? Melchoir (talk) 08:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
KPL Top 8 Cup
Thanks for this brilliant article :). Ironholds (talk) 11:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Davykamanzi (talk) 11:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Kenyan football
Hello, I just want to commend your contributions to articles on Kenyan football. Great work! Julius Sahara (talk) 20:04, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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Wikipedia Stories Project
Hi Davy!
My name is Victor and I'm a storyteller with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. I'm chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who make and use Wikipedia have so much to share.
A colleague of mine suggested that I speak with you - and according to your userpage you seem to like football, that's cool!
I'd very much like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project.
Thank you for your time,
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Copy-paste move of Arnold Origi Otieno
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Friendly note
Please stop tagging pages as doppelganger accounts, especially when the accounts do not even exist. Regards, Syrthiss (talk) 15:51, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello!
Hello Davy!
I have noted your tireless contributions on Wikipedia regarding Kenyan football and other articles et al. i am also a Wikipedian from Kenya based in Nairobi. Are you aware that we have an association of Wikipedia contributors here in Kenya? stephenWanjau Talk to Me. Email Me. 04:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of the association of Wikipedia contributors in Kenya but I wouldn't join it even if given the chance. My top priorities are studies and football for the time being and contributing to Wikipedia's just what I do in my free time. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 14:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well I understand and respect your concerns. We only meet once in at least two months though most of our conversations happen online via our mailing list. It would be nice to share your experiences on editing Wikipedia since seems you are a bit experienced or even set up a meeting in town for a coffee or so ;) stephenWanjau Talk to Me. Email Me. 18:22, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Nomination of 2013 in Kenyan football for deletion
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Response: Template:2012 FKF Division One - Zone A results
The issue is that the template now has a cite reference error, which is causing it to be listed at Category:Pages with missing references list (where I came across it in the first place). This needs to be fixed in some manner, whether that means removing the references or some other method. SilverserenC 01:03, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
2012 Kenyan Premier League
Hi, I'm sorry for the inconvenience I've caused but I honestly thought I did update the date. Sorry. Skyblueshaun 20:44, 21/07/2012.
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Talk:African Airlines Association
Hi! About making a French version, please see Talk:African Airlines Association WhisperToMe (talk) 19:29, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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- And you are. Didn't you read the notice above? I archive my messages every 2 months (January-February, March-April, May-June, July-August, September-October, November-December). Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 07:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay - It says "messages are archived every two months" but usually it should only archive messages that are old. Look at the edit history and it becomes apparent that my messages were being archived very shortly after being posted. That shouldn't happen - an archiving system should not "archive" freshly-posted messages. Also the bot's edit summaries are saying "Replaced content with '{{User:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}/Talk-Header}} <!--Leave all your messages beyond the last message!-->" - That gives no indication to the true purpose of why the talk page messages were being removed. It appears like a bot malfunction. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- I manually archive my messages by the way. I archived your message because it was posted in August, and I really didn't need to reply to it. And I had no knowledge of any bot editing the page. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 16:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Anyway, I took your advice and asked Axou if he could do it, maybe with my help. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. I actually did expect a reply, because usually activity for the French Wikipedia is coordinated on that site and I anticipated you had questions on how to contact users over there and/or how to request a translation there. Perhaps I can introduce you to an editor who is willing to take requests, or perhaps I could use my limited French to start a small stub that could grow larger later. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:21, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- No, I actually speak French as well. Who's this editor? Davykamanzi → talk · contribs
- Thank you. I actually did expect a reply, because usually activity for the French Wikipedia is coordinated on that site and I anticipated you had questions on how to contact users over there and/or how to request a translation there. Perhaps I can introduce you to an editor who is willing to take requests, or perhaps I could use my limited French to start a small stub that could grow larger later. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:21, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Anyway, I took your advice and asked Axou if he could do it, maybe with my help. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- I manually archive my messages by the way. I archived your message because it was posted in August, and I really didn't need to reply to it. And I had no knowledge of any bot editing the page. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 16:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay - It says "messages are archived every two months" but usually it should only archive messages that are old. Look at the edit history and it becomes apparent that my messages were being archived very shortly after being posted. That shouldn't happen - an archiving system should not "archive" freshly-posted messages. Also the bot's edit summaries are saying "Replaced content with '{{User:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}/Talk-Header}} <!--Leave all your messages beyond the last message!-->" - That gives no indication to the true purpose of why the talk page messages were being removed. It appears like a bot malfunction. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Talk:African Airlines Association says "Since AFRAA operates both English and French, I'm kindly requesting you to create a French version of this article on the French Wikipedia. Davykamanzi (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2011 (UTC)" Edit summary - You are welcome to begin the article in French whenever you want :) WhisperToMe (talk) 17:48, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of 2012−13_in_Kenyan_football
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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Silvrous (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Gor Mahia F.C page
Hi Davy, Gor's 3rd kit/ neutral colours are actually Blue. Nimeona naiweka, unaichuja.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahazi Otti (talk • contribs) 13:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- That's all good, but I can see many of the other changes you made to the page were unconstructive: The players don't need their full names and/or nicknames displayed, and there were many other changes which I reverted to make the page more encyclopedic; that's the whole purpose of Wikipedia anyway. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 15:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
No issue Davy.
It's a pet project, i'm still a newbie here.
Please help me clean it up - the warnings from bots etc - and how to paste photos.
Ahsante. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahazi Otti (talk • contribs) 15:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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Editing some pages
Hello, Davykamanzi I want to tell you something , look have made some errors on T.I. Discography , Lets Get away and Rubberband man are platinum in The United States, whatever you like has been 4x platinum, live your life has been 5x platinum, dead and gone has been 3x platinum, swagger like us has been platinum, paper trail has sold 3 millions copies 3x platinum, top back has been platinum, 24's" has been gold by RIAA, and this is not because I say it it is Beacuse The same T.I. Said in many interviews
Editing some pages
Hello, Davykamanzi I want to tell you something , look have made some errors on T.I. Discography , Lets Get away and Rubberband man are platinum in The United States, whatever you like has been 4x platinum, live your life has been 5x platinum, dead and gone has been 3x platinum, swagger like us has been platinum, paper trail has sold 3 millions copies 3x platinum, top back has been platinum, 24's" has been gold by RIAA, and this is not because I say it it is Because The same T.I. Said in many interviews — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.215.12 (talk) 20:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
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CECAFA & UAFA
Hi. May I ask why you removed from the Council for East and Central Africa Football Associations (CECAFA) page the fact that several member nations are also part of the Union of Arab Football Associations (UAFA)? You added something similar yourself to the UAFA page, asserting that some UAFA members are also part of the Confederation of African Football (CAF) and Asian Football Confederation (AFC). So what's the problem here? You also for some reason removed the image caption indicating which CECAFA members are UAFA members, although here too you added a similar caption to the UAFA page indicating that some members are CAF or AFC members. Were these errors? Please explain. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:07, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- If you look closely the "Current members" section of the article already explains which members are also a part of UAFA. It's the same case for the WAFU, Union of North African Football Federations and COSAFA articles. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- In that case, there's no point in mentioning both in the map and the members section of the UAFA page that UAFA members are also part of the CAF and AFC. The same standards must be applied across all pages. Middayexpress (talk) 17:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's different with the UAFA page; the map has to identify which members are from CAF and AFC. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Please quote the wiki policy/best practice that indicates this. Cause as it is, the same could be said for the CECAFA page and the UAFA membership of several of its member nations. Middayexpress (talk) 17:28, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm saying that because the UAFA goes across two confederations; the members' confederations have to be identified. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- UAFA's members are split across the CAF and AFC, just like some of CECAFA's members are also part of UAFA. UAFA itself is a sub-region of African football, albeit one reserved for the Arab League states (c.f. Template:African football). This brings us back to square one. What is the policy/best practice indicating this? If none exists, then there's really no legitimate reason why the same standard is not being employed across both the CECAFA and UAFA pages. Middayexpress (talk) 17:45, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm saying that because the UAFA goes across two confederations; the members' confederations have to be identified. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Please quote the wiki policy/best practice that indicates this. Cause as it is, the same could be said for the CECAFA page and the UAFA membership of several of its member nations. Middayexpress (talk) 17:28, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's different with the UAFA page; the map has to identify which members are from CAF and AFC. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- In that case, there's no point in mentioning both in the map and the members section of the UAFA page that UAFA members are also part of the CAF and AFC. The same standards must be applied across all pages. Middayexpress (talk) 17:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
October 2012
Thanks for contributing the new article 2013 FKF President's Cup. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that material must be verifiable, by being clearly attributed to reliable sources. Please help by adding more sources to the article you created, and/or by clarifying how the sources already given support the material (see here for how to do inline referencing). Many thanks! PS If you need any help, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or ask at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, or just ask me. GiantSnowman 14:25, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Call for Wikipedians in Residence in Africa
hi Davykamanzi,
I hope you are well and thriving!! WikiAfrica has just put out a call for two Wikipedians in Residence. One in Cape Town at WikiAfrica, at the Africa Centre; and the other for WikiAfrica Cameroon in Douala, at doual’art. I would be very grateful if you could spread this call far and wide among your networks to ensure that both projects get excellent candidates. Here is the link for the information page http://www.wikiafrica.net/two-wikipedians-in-residence-for-africa/
Isla Haddow 09:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Islahaddow (talk • contribs)
2012 CECAFA Cup
Hi. You created a template for the tournament that has sub articles such as the schedule. I think that is unnecessary. There is no need to have separate pages for that especially a page for scorers. So you should have these pages and the template deleted as everything can be fitted into one article. Also, for the participants section in the tournament article, perhaps you could expand it to include Kenya's supposed threat to boycott the tournament due to them pretty much getting stripped of hosting rights. There were also conflicts with their CHAN qualifiers which would have led them to skip the tournament, which you could add as well. Lastly about the hosting, if I'm not mistaken it wasn't switched to Uganda out of the blue and had something to do with what the sponsors wanted and they wanted it in Uganda. If so, it should also be added as the way you've written the section, it makes it look like the hosting was randomly taken away from Kenya for no reason. Banana Fingers (talk) 14:43, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- The tournament cannot actually be fitted into one tournament because there are vast statistics that will be recorded from the tournament; see 2012 Kagame Interclub Cup and you'll see what I mean. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 14:50, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- Look at the 2011 CECAFA Cup, you'll see what I mean... no need for sub-pages. Banana Fingers (talk) 14:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- There's actually a subpage on that article; 2011 CECAFA Cup squads. The squads cannot obviously be fitted into one article as it would make it too cumbersome to read. The 2012 Kagame Interclub Cup article is more comprehensive and easier to read because it isn't unnecessarily long and it has subpages that focus on the different specific aspects of the tournament; fitting all that into one article would make it too long for nothing and harder to read and understand. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 15:04, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- Apart from the squad page, everything is there on one page. And how is it "unnecessarily" long? Going from sub-page to sub-page is a bit of an annoyance than having it like the 2011 CECAFA Cup article. And it's not like this is a World Cup article. Banana Fingers (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- It's unnecessarily long because there'd be too much for the reader to read and understand; all the details are actually fitted into one article, but only basic details like group standings, knockout brackets and scores. Detailed info on the matches or groups or whatever would be better kept in separate subpages rather than jamming them into one article, where links to the subpages can be found in relevant sections for easy access. There's no need to cloud a reader's mind with an extremely long article which will take time to both read and understand when one can create a relatively short article that summarises everything about the tournament and has links to subpages where they can find out more about a certain aspect of the tournament. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 15:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- Apart from the squad page, everything is there on one page. And how is it "unnecessarily" long? Going from sub-page to sub-page is a bit of an annoyance than having it like the 2011 CECAFA Cup article. And it's not like this is a World Cup article. Banana Fingers (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- This is the problem. All of what you said is only your perception. Have a look at other tournament articles for smaller tournaments. There are no sub-pages!! Mind you, an article is SUPPOSED to have some degree of length and creating sub-page after sub-page is not exactly the way to go especially for a page like "schedule". The only sub-page that would be needed is for squads! Why don't you go to WP:FOOTY and ask if the 2011 CECAFA Cup article is "extremely long". I'm sure they'll say NO. Therefore doing the same for the 2012 CECAFA Cup page is completely unnecessary! Banana Fingers (talk) 19:53, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- Well?? Banana Fingers (talk) 16:40, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- There are no guidelines on WP:FOOTY on how long an article for a tournament should be or if it should have sub-pages. I still stand by my decision to create sub-pages for the 2012 CECAFA Cup article because then the main article will be EASIER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND. I don't think it's right to squeeze every single detail about the tournament into one article because not everyone likes reading a lot. It's better to focus on details of the various stages of the tournament in sub-pages with the main article as a SUMMARY of all of those sub-pages.
- And also don't expect me to reply to your messages immediately; I've got more important things to do than stay on Wikipedia all the time. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 17:19, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't say there were guidelines, I said ask the people there about the 2011 CECAFA Cup page length.... I'm sure they'll say there's no need for sub-pages in that article and there wouldn't be any need for any except for squads (which is quite standard) in the 2012 page. So, by your own logic (idiotic I must say), every page on Wikipedia with any sort of length needs to have sub-pages of some sort. Wow. lol! You also say you stand by your decision... well, I stand by mine, what are you gonna do now? You've got more important things to do? Don't we all!! lol!! And how weird is that, you made a load of edits on 10 November and you didn't reply and my last reply to you was on the ninth. hmmm... Banana Fingers (talk) 17:57, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- I don't need to ask anyone about how to go about editing articles on Wikipedia (see WP:BB). Plus if you haven't noticed, no administrator or any high-ranking editor (or ANY editor, for that matter) has hassled me about my work on the 2012 Kagame Interclub Cup article, so I don't see any reason for you to try and divert me from doing what I believe will help the readers. And I didn't say every page on Wikipedia with any sort of length needs to have sub-pages of some sort at all; I insisted that tournament season articles like the 2012 CECAFA Cup article need sub-pages because they contain a lot of statistics (which can be hard to read and understand all in one article for a not-so-avid reader), so your logic isn't the best either. So what am I gonna do now? I'm gonna go through will creating those sub-pages for the article. What are YOU gonna do to stop me?
- If you've seen my user page, you'd know that I'm a footballer (and one who plans on going pro), so using your common sense you'd know that I've also got training sessions, matches, etc. on my weekly routine. That "load of edits" I did on 10 November were on the 2012 Kenyan Premier League because the season had just ended, and updates of the 2012 FKF Division One season. I don't have time to edit on Wikipedia 24/7. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 18:16, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- You know what.... do whatever it is you wanna fucking do!!!! You're just an extremely anal big headed wannabe kid who thinks you're better than most because you're some random footballer who plans on going pro. LMAO!!!!!!! I'm pretty sure you suck big time anyway!!! But whatever kid, I'll let you have what you want!! The only thing that I will be insistent on is that you DO NOT need a separate page for goalscorers!!! That's just idiotic especially for a smalltournament!! Now get that through your big fat head!!! Oh and as for you're aspirations to go pro..... go break a leg........... LITERALLY!!! Banana Fingers (talk) 20:18, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm not the one going around reverting everyone's edits for no good reason. If I recall, I think YOU'RE the one who thinks you're better than others. Plus you're not in any position to criticise my football ability; you've never seen me play. But that's an argument for another day...oh yeah, World Cup articles DO have separate pages for goalscorers (e.g. 2010 FIFA World Cup statistics), only that with the CECAFA Cup assists and the lot aren't paid attention to and it's only goals.
- I'm not gonna start being abusive just because I'm angry that I don't have full control over articles and other editors like you are, so you can go on swearing at me about being an "extremely anal big headed wannabe kid" but it's not gonna fix anything. Clearly I've been the more mature and reasonable person in this case yet I'm sure you're older than me, so I don't know what your problem is or whether you have issues of some kind, but I don't care about that or what you think of me anyway. I'm just gonna keep on doing what I do on Wikipedia and on the pitch while you go on running your dirty mouth for no good reason. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 20:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Wow... nice of you to give such a LATE reply! Just piss off will you!! And you as a footballer.... yeah, you suck, I don't need to see you play to know! Nobody's heard of you and trust me, it will stay that way!! Even more, a footballer who thinks he's any good is actually on Wikipedia lmao!!!! Banana Fingers (talk) 09:08, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Whatever, man. I don't need to listen to some douchebag who spends all his time badmouthing other people on Wikipedia. And yeah, you actually need to see me play to know. And my aim isn't for people to hear of me, so just stop talking about what you don't know. And yeah, I AM a footballer who thinks I'm any good and I'm on Wikipedia; have you seen my user page lately? Editing on Wikipedia is something I do as a HOBBY. So again, don't go running your mouth about stuff you don't know about. I don't even know why I'm still wasting my time with you. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 12:45, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Call for Wikipedians in Residence in Africa
Hello,
I hope you are well and thriving!! WikiAfrica has just put out a call for two Wikipedians in Residence. One in Cape Town at WikiAfrica, at the Africa Centre; and the other for WikiAfrica Cameroon in Douala, at doual’art. If you are interested, please contact either Marilyn [marilyn.doualabell
doualart.org] for the WikiAfrica Cameroon call or Isla [islahfafricacentre.net] for the WikiAfrica position in Cape Town.
If you are not interested in applying, I would be very grateful if you could spread this call far and wide among your networks to ensure that both projects get excellent candidates. Here is the link for the information page: http://www.wikiafrica.net/two-wikipedians-in-residence-for-africa/
Best regards, Islahaddow
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November 2012
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bbb23 (talk) 02:03, 20 November 2012 (UTC)- That seems fair. Only 24 hours for me for the 3RR violation, which I had no prior knowledge of but there's no problem. A month for him for the 3RR violation and the gross profanities and personal attacks he's been posting on my talk page. I feel it should've been a bit more but it's okay. It's a completely fair verdict. Thanks for your help! Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 14:00, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for understanding. Just remember next time not to let your frustration get the better of you in a content dispute, particularly when the other editor is proving uncooperative. Better to handle it on the article talk page, bring it to a noticeboard (earlier), or seek some advice.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Geoffrey Kizito. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. GiantSnowman 09:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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CECAFA Cup 2012
Hello. First of all, there are two Ndikumanas in the Burundi's squad for this CECAFA tournament. Second, all reports say that Selemani scored a brace while his name sake Yusuf Ndikumana scored one. BBC, MichezoAfrika, Goal.com, plus others including a GBS News report which can bee seen on Youtube here. Futaa is the lone source which says Selemani scored a hat trick. Livescore is also not a report, but merely a live score tracker and can't exactly put that as a report within the page, especially since the links are dead, for me at least. Mas y mas (talk) 18:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I found them. Thanks for the correction. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 15:51, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- For the knockout stage, goals from a penalty shootout aren't not counted towards players stats! Therefore, as of the first day of the quarter-finals, only two players have scored! Mas y mas (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Changed the stats. Davykamanzi → talk · contribs 19:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- For the knockout stage, goals from a penalty shootout aren't not counted towards players stats! Therefore, as of the first day of the quarter-finals, only two players have scored! Mas y mas (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Bernard Wanyama
Hi there - I have reverted your move, the 'Mangoli' name is not supported by any sources on the article and therefore the move is potentially controversial. I have no real opinion either way - but please use WP:RM. GiantSnowman 18:45, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
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Cutb-and-paste move
Hi. I just came across your WP:CUTANDPASTE move from Bandari F.C. (Kenyan football club) to Bandari F.C. (Kenya). Obviously this was done a while ago but I thought I'd drop you a message in case you didn't know that it was better to use the "move" tab at the top of an article because it preserves the article history.
I have tagged the article so hopefully an admin will come and clean it up. Unfortunately, it does require an admin.