User talk:Dawnseeker2000

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Originally, the X-XII titles were slightly smaller than the I-IX titles if you compare them. These edits are to make them more consistent.[edit]

Just the rationale. (talk) 21:37, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I understand, but I didn't see a difference in the text when I looked side by side. Dawnseeker2000 21:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Ah. I can see why it would be easy to miss. I guess I'm a perfectionist and it stuck out like a sore thumb, so I went ahead and edited it. (talk) 22:03, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Roger that, thanks. Dawnseeker2000 22:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

List of earthquakes in Canada[edit]

Please discuss your removal of sourced earthquakes from this article. There are no specific criteria established for this article other than it being a list of earthquakes in Canada. Furthermore, there is no Wikipedia requirement that any content in an article be notable of itself. You previously raised this issue on the article talk page and did not get consensus. Meters (talk) 22:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed your addition of the quideline on Earthquakes list, but I'm not sure that a guideline that was written by one person and really has not been touched since has any consensus behind it. Meters (talk) 22:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
The guideline makes good sense, but it is specifically the notability criteria for standalone articles about notable earthquakes. It should not be applied to a list of earthquakes without prior discussion. Meters (talk) 23:07, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

have no idea what you are talking about[edit]

have no idea what changes you are even talking about — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:53, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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Asking help to review this article[edit]

hello , I am begginer in wikipedia, I hope you could review this article and give me feedback to enhance my skills — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdalla Dabdoub (talkcontribs) 17:09, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Messina Earthquake Article[edit]

While I appreciate your zeal in dealing with possible vandalism, I find it incredible that you didn't even bother to check the changes I made to the Messina Earthquake Article. Yes, I deleted two periods because they were typos. You even stated you noticed as much but thought of reverting it anyway. The fascinating thing is double checking it would have taken you LESS time than the time you took to revert the changes, and then post on my talk page. I've been living in this address for less than two years now, so if the IP has a ban on it that's beyond me. STILL not a reason enough to revert without actually checking what I did, which was just try to improve the damn article.

People like you are what keep me from wanting to become involved with Wikipedia. Why bother noticing errors on a random article you found interesting and wanting to improve the experience for anyone, when you get ham fisted approaches such as this. God forbid the poor sod who lives here next if they develop an interest in Wikipedia and ever dare try and make a helpful edit.

But fine, keep the article as is then, I will be refraining from making any further changes to any Wikipedia page lest I bump into the likes of you again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:26, 20 September 2017‎ (UTC)


Is a foreign wiki really circular when it's in External links? I doubt it, it isn't being used as a source. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 09:55, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Have I done it Correctly?[edit]

Hello, I have recently got your message and did what you told. Could you briefly check if I've done it correctly as I would like to properly do things. Thanks ChrKLO (talk) 13:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes. Some of the fields in the ref template (cite news) aren't necessary, but that looks fine. Thanks, Dawnseeker2000 13:35, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I autism i did not nothing on arricle mount agung[edit]

Hi I am autism I good type but thing is didn't do anything wrong on page Mount agung wiki page it is reader please I didn't do anything wrong GAJJR (talk) 21:17, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Donald trump timeline and 1843 guadeloupe earthquake[edit]

Hi I not try taking personality on Donald Trump timeline and 1843 Guadeloupe earthquake page they will understand read and I am skill I am learning please accept it thank you

GAJJR (talk) 16:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Final warning[edit]

Hi dawnseeker I am Glen I am autistic I got your message from you about final warning I didn't vandalism on 1843 Guadeloupe earthquake I fix it problem on page, I check this page this morning someone fix in page so I didn't vandalism page so please accept it, thank you. GAJJR (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

broken awb script[edit]

Your recent AWB script edit broke two cs1 templates and added the page to Category:CS1 maint: Date and year. When a cs1|2 template holds a |date= parameter, it is almost always unnecessary for the template to also hold |year=. Please fix your script so that it does not add extraneous |year= parameters to cs1|2 templates.

Trappist the monk (talk) 11:54, 11 October 2017 (UTC)


I added content to the Titan page but you’ve removed the information even though it is true and valid I could get a source if you wanted me to but I feel it’s not vandalism SamC123 (talk) 23:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hussein of Jordan[edit]

Hello, Dawnseeker2000 – I understand your wish to correct spelling errors at Hussein of Jordan with this edit, but I am in the middle of copy-editing the article in response to a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. I had placed a "GOCEinuse" tag at the top of the article that is still there. Because I am busy in real life, I do a few sections each day, so it will take a few more days for me to finish. If you don't mind, I would appreciate it if you would wait until I have placed the GOCE template at the top of the article's talk page before you make additional edits. If you enjoy copy-editing, perhaps you'd like to participate in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, if you are not already active in the project. Best regards,  – Corinne (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, apologies for that. AWB normally advises when there is an "in use" template in the article. I only do runs through that series of articles every couple of months so you won't have to worry about any more incursions on that one. Thanks for letting me know, Dawnseeker2000 22:00, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

November 2017[edit]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at User talk:, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Histalia (talk) 17:56, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Histalia, please be cautious about the overzealous use of warning templates. A 4im template should only be used in the most extreme of circumstances. Removing a copyright violation notice is not considered vandalism. Thanks.
UPDATE: I took a look at the interactions between you and; their edits were not copyrighted in the first place, so Dawnseeker was justified in the initial removal of the warning template. Primefac (talk) 18:03, 6 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
I'm striking out the user warning, as it's added by an indef'ed user, most likely a sock of Joaquinito01. The user is known to add bogus user warnings and AIV reports, as well as falsely reverting other users' edits. -★- PlyrStar93. Message me. 19:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

List of earthquakes in 2017/Talk[edit]

You removed my new entry because of WP:DNFTT? What was wrong with it?-- (talk) 00:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

You just removed my mag 5 quake from the Irish sea...not impressed it's recorded on the data available...I have a buddy on a rig near the area — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:08, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Me?-- (talk) 03:12, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

ISC event #'s[edit]

Hi! So what do think of a project to add ISC event numbers to earthquake articles? Several ways of how that could be done; see 1957_Mongolia_earthquake#External links for one form. I've also added a link at Template:M/doc#Data_sources to the ISC's nice chronological index that should make getting the links fairly easy. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:56, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, that entry looks good. I hadn't realized that those entries contained lists of potential sources, so yes, we should do totally do that. I can imagine having those present in the articles could be pretty handy. Getting ahead of myself here, but once we have the format settled we may be able to have a bot add individual entries (a template?) to the articles. One other thing that you mentioned earlier was the need to look at how lists are constructed and one of the things that has come up in that area that I've been thinking about is barriers to entry (or inclusion criteria). Have you considered that at all or would you be willing to write a guideline? Dawnseeker2000 04:09, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
"Barriers to entry" doesn't sound good, not all, but presumably you mean "inclusion criteria". Such as those at WP:WikiProject Earthquakes/notability guidelines, right? (And discussed more extensively here.)
Do they need more tweaking? A discussion for that could be opened there, though I see the WP:WikiProject Earthquakes is semi-active. The one suggestion I would make right off the bat is to number the criteria, to facilitate references to them. Perhaps after reviewing them for adjustments. Yes, perhaps it's time to review that.
The "Of scientific interest" is readily verified by a bibliographic link (as I added for the Mongolia quake). I should emphasize the ISC has two kinds of event-specific links of interest to us. First is the technical page, with *everyone's* data (including the USGS), and as "official" a determination as can be had as to time, location, and magnitude. The second kind of link is with the bibliographic data. As far as I know, that is as complete as we could ever hope for, and absolutely (I tend to avoid that word, but there it is) the starting point for anyone, editor or reader, that wants to dive into the deeper, more aracane aspects.
In that the ISC catalog includes pretty much every quake of possible notability, I think an event link to the ISC ought to be mandatory. But before proposing that I would like to sort out some details, like which kind of link, and how to present it.
As to where to include the link: in the earthquake info box, for sure. Also in the tables. (And Wikidata??) But prior to proposing any of that I think we should scatter these links widely so other editors can see what they are and why they are good.
I'm running behind schedule, but will try to set up some examples for display "real soon". ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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For comparison, here are some sample ISC links (as mirrored at IRIS):
For the bigger events there are a LOT more station reports (often every reporting network in the world), and usually more scientific reports. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:03, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
OK, as much as I've used the ISC's spreadsheet catalog, I actually haven't looked at their online bulletins much. In fact, when I initially looked at the bibliography for the first time, I thought that it was one of the bulletins with additional information. Anyway, I'll leave it up to you for formatting. I don't really have a preference (my external links are usually the link title followed by an endash and the source linked internally). Hope your holiday was great. Dawnseeker2000 22:40, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
So how do you feel about getting a campaign together to add ISC links generally? Also, should we start a discussion on reliable sources for earthquake magnitudes, and perhaps re-open the question of what earthquakes should be included? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:59, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Adding the ISC links is fine (choose a format & I'll follow your lead). Adding them to articles where the ISC is already a source (or where the new link doesn't contradict the stated magnitude) seems to be a good place to start. And yes, I've asked at least one editor to not use, so having a discussion to point to might be a good idea (same with having a guideline for which events shouldn't be included). Dawnseeker2000 21:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
I've been taking a comprehensive look at the broader situation, and how various pieces might interlock, so I can present a well-developed plan for discussion. (I rather doubt many editors would be interested in detailed discussion.) Meanwhile, I think progress can be made on a template for adding ISC links. A question for you: which of the following general forms of the descriptive text do you think would be best (where brackets indicate links):
A: Technical data and bibliography at the [International Seismological Centre], [event #99999].
B: The [International Seismological Centre] has technical data and a bibliography for [this event (#99999)].
And hoping the creeks don't rise, etc. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Hot off the press! The new template {{EQ-isc-link}}:

The International Seismological Centre has a bibliography and/or authoritative data for this event.
The International Seismological Centre will have authoritative data for this event in due course.

I think we can start plugging this into all of the articles of earthquakes of the last 50 years, perhaps since about 1900. (I haven't checked how complete the event pages are.) ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:48, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Cool, I'll start plugging away. Dawnseeker2000 02:09, 7 December 2017 (UTC)


I understand. Thank you. Red Director (talk) 01:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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Request for discussion at Talk:Vermont[edit]

Thank you for your interest in editing the article, Vermont. Could you look in on a question on the talk page at Talk:Vermont#Choice of verbiage and give your thoughts and opinion? Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 14:12, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Heads-up re one of your AWB edits[edit]

Hello, while doing some link-fixing, I noticed that this edit of yours] to Parvomay back in March replaced "[[earthquakes]]" with "[[s]]". Just letting you know in case you think there might be other instances of this problem. Graham87 13:18, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Hey Graham87, I remember that AWB run well because of how tedious it was. I checked the article again a little bit ago and made a few more improvements. Thanks for stopping by to let me know. Dawnseeker2000 17:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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Bitcoin brackets[edit]

Hi, Dawnseeker2000. I stared at those brackets for the longest time, and the full stop threw me off. Thank you for the save. D'oh! I really appreciate it. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 07:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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I only did an edit of spelling which there are MANY spelling errors.[edit]

I saw you left a message on my page. On the article, you said I edited that was put back to the original there were lots of spelling and grammar errors I fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdbag (talkcontribs) 16:34, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings[edit]

The Great White North.jpg you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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1906 San Francisco earthquake[edit]

what is your problem with improving documentation about the narrative of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, that you blindly remove references ? (talk) 02:50, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

all earthquakes are yours ? (talk) 02:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) IP, the addition of 30 citations for one simple sentence is highly excessive. We do not need to cite every possible mention of a subject; citations are meant to support statements made in the encyclopedia, and if you can't support the statement with one or two citations either it should be split into multiple, separately sourced statements or you're doing it wrong. In this case, I think it's the latter. General Ization Talk 02:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't think I could have said it better. For the newbie: you can see our guideline on the matter at WP:CITEKILL. Dawnseeker2000 04:39, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Baseball in Dominican Republic[edit]

Hey, I'm still new to the Wikipedia editing community. I was wondering why you reverted my edits on Baseball in Dominican Republic.

Thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:31, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Vladimir Bibikhin[edit]

Hi, I see you reverted an editor for this article. The editor was Karel Kay. Why are you reverting his stuff. scope_creep (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, this user is part of one of the most prolific sock farms I've ever seen, with vandalism and trolling as their MO. Dawnseeker2000 17:21, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Your work on earthquake articles are great. Keep it up, dude. Thanks.

Alex of Canada (talk) 19:41, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1898 Mare Island earthquake[edit]

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Not a sock puppet[edit]

So you deleted my section on your talk page (fair play I suppose as that other users comment was a little odd), but I'd really like to get a little more info than that. I notice you rolled back some of my changes but not all. In all honesty I can't differentiate between the ones you did and didn't. It's confusing and I can't work out how anyone can get on this platform if this is how it plays out. It seems if you are new and make an edit you are a sock puppet. That's limiting at best.

After some research I edited the Erika Sutter page today. Minor factual change, and added a citation that was previously missing. Just thought I'd let you know.

Before I raise a dispute, could you possibly engage with me a little more positively? As I am not a sock puppet and I am not intending to go away or start a new account. I'd rather engage positively and align myself with the platform. Carlton25 (talk) 12:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate the change of heart. I'd like to put back in other factual changes I had researched as well on other pages that you reversed, but note your point below about too many small grammar edits not being overly helpful in the long run (so I won't look to reinstate every minor change). I also agree with the user below about Wikipedia prompting new users to start small. Please let me know if you disagree with anything I do on my talk page or the article pages and I'll be happy to explain or discuss. Thank you. Carlton25 (talk) 12:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Paupa New Guinea Earthquake[edit]

Okay, so concerning my edit to List of earthquakes in 2018, how does the IX intensity not sound reasonable to you? USGS states it here. If I have a reliable source, it is reasonable. HurricaneGonzalo | Talk | Contribs 17:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh nevermind, I just realized I wasn't looking at the ShakeMap. I am sorry, so carry on and have a nice day! :) HurricaneGonzalo | Talk | Contribs 17:32, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks. And just to clarify about the user generated content on the "Did You Feel It?" system: The claims that this M6.4 shock were felt in Lae (374 km, about 230 mi) with the extraordinarily high intensity of IX (Violent), is definitely not reasonable. Dawnseeker2000 17:48, 27 January 2018 (UTC) - BLPCAT problems[edit]

Hello Dawnseeker2000, just fyi: apparently the disruptive edits from this IP are still ongoing despite your latest warning on User talk: I don't know enough about the history of this problem, so I'll leave it to you if further action is needed or not (I have reverted both recent cat changes). Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 00:59, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

All good. I've been watching the 25 IPs or so this Dubliner uses for over a year. Thanks for checking & enjoy the rest of your weekend. Dawnseeker2000 01:38, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Dhanyee Meye edit removing off-topic content[edit]

Hi Dawnseeker2000, I removed some irrelevant content from Dhanyee Meye, which is a page on a Bengali film. You enabled a rollback which re-added this content (discussing an insulin problem). I really do believe the paragraph I removed is entirely off-topic for that page, unless I've misunderstood something. Would it be alright to reinstate my edit? Thanks and regards. Pepperlab (talk) 11:45, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

After further reading, I believe the content I removed is an ad placed by GlyxgoReview, and has no place whatsoever on that page. Best regards, Pepperlab (talk) 11:53, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Your recent reverts[edit]

Could you shed some light on what's going on at Gentrification of Miami? I take it you believe the edits [1][2] were made by socks? MusikAnimal talk 02:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, those are both throw-away trolling accounts. See your email for a bit more. Dawnseeker2000 03:13, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
So, when I have been talking about this increased rate of editing on the copy edit-tagged articles, I've used terms like vandalism, trolling, and socking. Those abbreviated terms don't tell the whole story. This text is the first time that I've been able to write more than a few words on what's going on.

These new editors may or may not be improving the articles. There have been plenty of new vandals on those articles. I have several problems with the new editors:

  • The number of editors is excessive and unhelpful
  • They have zero stake in the long term longevity and validity of WP
  • Editing is a novelty to them and they only think they're helping. They do not understand the bigger picture (WP:V, WP:SYN, WP:INTEGRITY)
  • Over time, with each new "grammatical correction", the content moves farther and farther away from its original intended meaning and away from being aligned with the sources
  • All of this inexperience is hurting WP – we need fewer, more experienced editors working on these articles (more ≠ better)
  • Many of the usernames imply they're ESL editors. So the question is: Does it make sense to have people that don't have the best grasp of English copy editing the English WP?

One more thing: This edit only fixed an error that was introduced an hour prior in this edit, which was supposed to have been "edited for clarity and grammar only".

That's all for now. Dawnseeker2000 20:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure what's going on is they created an account so they could write an article, then found out they have to make 10 edits first. From the Wikipedia:New user landing page they are encouraged to make smaller edits first, and they end up picking out articles at the top of Wikipedia:Community portal#Help out. I don't see anything directly suggesting there is a sock farm. Rather it's the high-visibility of the new user landing page that's attracting some misguided newbies and vandals. If we feel this is doing more harm than good (I'm not convinced), then we should bring up this theory at WT:ACTRIAL. It is not fair to treat each newbie as though they were a sock. They should get the same fair chance at editing. All due respect, but I find your comments at User talk:Mpark92 especially uncalled for. We actively encourage new users to make small contributions, not just on the new user landing page, but on all of our other guides geared toward new users. There is no concept of "don't edit here because there are too many newbies". It's a wiki, things are open for a reason. I understand you may feel overwhelmed, and I truly sympathize with that. Fortunately we have a lot of tools and an army of patrollers to take care of the outright vandalism. The occasional good-faith edit that isn't perfect is OK. Most of what I've seen has been a "net-positive", but that's just my opinion (and to be fair I haven't witnessed as much of this as you have). For now, I kindly ask that we not revert any good edits, regardless of any suspicions. If there are only minor issues with an edit, that is otherwise an improvement, consider making the corrections yourself. If a user is editing constructively or at least trying to, they should be rewarded (welcome template, thanks, etc.) and not brushed off as another annoying newbie. Thanks for your understanding! And apologies if it seems like I'm giving you a hard time. I mean only to protect the new users' right to edit and their growth potential. We all start somewhere :) MusikAnimal talk 20:56, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your quick attention to vandalism on pages related to South Sudan! Mr leroy playpus (talk) 18:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Greetings from Oregon. Thank you, Dawnseeker2000 18:46, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1898 Mare Island earthquake[edit]

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Advice re IP and vandalism[edit]

Hi Dawnseeker2000. I saw you had left a message on User_talk: and wondered if you can help. User has put a couple of edits on Ovens, County Cork about Jewish people and I'm worried this is anti-semitic. I've reverted the edits twice, but suspect user will change them back again. If you know the history of this user, is there anything you can advise? Many thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 23:47, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

That IP is a Dubliner that has been having BLP cat issues for a little more than a year. He started out as (talk · contribs) but when that one was re-blocked for a year he's moved on to other IPs. I'm guessing they're probably internet cafes. The vandalism that you saw from that IP is probably not my guy, who has made thousands of edits (primarily to expatriate categories). That we're seeing two different styles of editing/vandalism reinforces the cafe / library theory. Dawnseeker2000 23:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for your edit. It is completely beyond me on how to do what you did.Mcb133aco (talk) 21:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)Mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 21:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, I suspect Dawnseeker has magical powers. But he's too humble to talk about them.:-) ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:44, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Hah, I just thought I probably shouldn't be touting my semi-automated button-pressing abilities. Dawnseeker2000 21:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

ZenCash(Cryptocurrency) New Unreviewed Article[edit]

I would appreciate your help to review and cleaning my brand new article. I would really appreciate your expericen and comments to improve it

Regards --Fergus_Manx 00:01, 10 February 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpaceMAN (talkcontribs)

New citation templates coming along.[edit]

Hi! My new templates reaching developmental maturity, but wonder if you would favor me with your thoughts on a detail that is bothering me. At User:J._Johnson/Sandbox5#USG-ANSS_citations I have several models; I favor the style in #3 and #4, where "ANSS" is credited as the "author", and "Comprehensive Catalog" is the "work" (database). However, I am perplexed on how to handle the title. Strictly speaking it should be the long title used by ANSS (such as "M 8.1 - near the south coast of Honshu, Japan" or "M 6.9 - 1km W of Day Valley, California"), but those are not very recognizable as the quakes more familiarly known as "Kanto 1923" and "Loma Prieta 1989". I prefer using the short form (which is what will be used for the short-cite and the CITEREF), but being quoted implies that is exactly what the ANSS title is. Which they are not. What do you think?

So have two beers tonight, and if the spouse questions that I'll be happy to explain that you are deliberating on an important point of great subtlety. Face-smile.svg ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

OK, will check on what you've done. Gimme a bit though; I'm still in catch up mode. Dawnseeker2000 21:40, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Sure. Meanwhile, I keep moving forward. I'm finessing the 'title' issue by presenting some options (see {{cite usgs-anss}}, but I'm still interested in your comments. Also: note the year-place order. I think that will be more useful where multiple uses of this template are listed alphabetically. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:00, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Good morning @J. Johnson:, I'm going to look at the new template today, though I must confess I'm still mulling over where I can put the still new(ish) Template:M. So you've gotten ahead of me a bit, but that's OK. Anything changed with the new one since you last posted here? Dawnseeker2000 19:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Lots of tweaks, to both the templates themselves, and their documentation. Two of the new templates – {{cite isc}} and {{cite anss}} – provide full citations to the ISC (more precisely, to specific ISC "data products") and the ANSS Comprehensive Catalog. Complementing them are {{short-isc}} and {{short-anss}} that provide in-line short-cites that link to the full citations. All are mostly shaped up, but I am still working on a bug in how the anss pair handle some of the parameters (which breaks the link between them).
So 2A, 2B, and 3C are the ones with issues right now with the line break? Dawnseeker2000 01:04, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Oh, no, I am quite past that now! What you were looking at (2A, etc.) are the models I used to decide on which template (format implied) to use as a basis. Don't bother with my sandbox page now, go straight to the templates. The issue back then was how handle "title", but (as I explained above) I've sorted that out. The last issue was with link breakage (and quite a vexing problem that was), but that is fixed now. There is one other function to add to {cite anss} to make urls easier to handle, but other than that I think these four templates are ready to roll. I haven't removed the "not ready to use" message yet (or added the categories) as I want to try them out in several articles first (any suggestions?), but Real Soon Now. And I am about to propose some changes to the earthquake infobox.
There is a broad scope of work about to open up. (What were your plans for March? :-) E.g., check this edit at Lists of earthquakes. only redirects to the USGS-ANSS page, without adding anything of value, so I see no reason not to go straight to the authoritative source. And I think all such instances should be replaced. There are also a lot of direct citations of "USGS" using cite web that could now be better done with cite anss. Plus citing the ISC for magnitudes, as well as lat-long. and UTC date-time.
What do you think of picking an article we could fix up as a demonstration of the new templates? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:20, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Sure, something on the recent side that may be thin on content. Let me have a look around and I'll ping you later. I've got all the time in the world at the moment. Dawnseeker2000 16:55, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
@J. Johnson: Here's a modern event (1995 Neftegorsk earthquake) that might be good to showcase. Dawnseeker2000 19:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
I like it. I'll post a notice on the Talk page, and get to work on it. ANSS is a little thin on resource for this one, but no matter, let's just grab another one. Perhaps one of the recent Mexican quakes? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 19:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Sure, whichever one has the most content to work with. Dawnseeker2000 21:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

And they are ready for use! (Used at 1952 Kern County earthquake to replace a dead link.) But I think I'll hold off making any general announcement until the demonstration cases are ready. Plus: I have made two proposals at Template_talk:Infobox_earthquake to modify that template, so that might start some busyness for a couple of days. For now: enough WP; perhaps I can get to the store and back before the roads freeze over. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:29, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Charging along! I revised 1995 Neftegorsk earthquake to use the new templates, replacing some dead links in the process. (And in looking around I found that it really is an interesting quake, so I expanded it a bit.) Something I noticed there: all of the PAGER-CAT links are dead (that service has been replaced). Indeed, since the USGS rebuilt their website (2003?) pretty much all of the urls are gone or empty, and I wonder if we ought identify them all for likely revision.

I also added cite_anss to 2017 Chiapas earthquake, but you probably saw that on your watchlist. And a comment of explanation; watching to see if anyone bitches. Now to work on a list or two. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:51, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

OK @J. Johnson: good work. I have been chasing around the PAGER-CAT / EXPO-CAT links for a couple of years and yesterday I relocated them once again here: [3]. Glad to have found it again: it's a compilation of catalogs and in that article it's used as a source for the EM-DAT and NGDC figures. Dawnseeker2000 14:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I see them. I thought I had seen them somewhere, and why couldn't they keep the old urls?? Anyway, I think they discontinued PAGER, and those are just archives. Much better if we replace all PAGER references with ANSS cites. As to NGDC: I see that some editors rely on it, but I don't know how reliable it is. (The result of massive data input and compilation overseen by people watching the quality? Or one office's staffers grabbing what ever they find from disparate sources?) Yet another task I don't have time for. Do we by any chance have a list of people looking for tasks to do?? :-) ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

2018 Peru earthquake[edit]

Thank you so much for the feedback. My groupmates are shit and I've been trying to clean up after them. I had no idea that they had been just completely plagiarizing. Again, I can't thank you enough.

Infobox work[edit]

I have been working out how to do the changes to {{Infobox earthquake}}. I was wondering if I could have the new fields pickup from the old, but use of the old forms is too inconsistent. So I am going to retain the old fields alongside the new fields, and track usage of the old fields. How do you feel about a big AWB push get the ANSS urls and UTC timestamps, and ISC events? And: would it be worthwhile to have the 'anss-url' parameter work with just the last part, like in {{cite anss}}? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@J. Johnson: Liking the new ANSS template and have been considering this. We can start getting it in place; just need to look at a few possible examples and replace one to get the ball rolling. Dawnseeker2000 02:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

What I have in mind is more narrowly focused on populating the UTC timestamp and ANSS link fields, and possibly the ISC event id, in the new version of the Infobox; this is independent of any use of the other templates. In some cases, where an article already cites the "USGS" (ANSS) it is trivial to go to that page, and scrape off both the url and the "origin time" (already formatted!), and plug them in. Other cases require going to the Significant Earthquakes archive. Similarly for the ISC event. Once the timestamp is in, the "origintime" field can be (should be) blanked. Is that readily done with AWB? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:39, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, of course I'd be willing to go through the articles and apply the changes. I haven't been peeking at your latest work, so will just need to prime myself with the latest gadgets. Dawnseeker2000 20:58, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll keep you posted of where I am at. When I turn it on I'll do the 2018 quakes, so you'll have examples. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:32, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
They're in!! I'm still checking for little details that need attention, and some of the documentation is not fully updated. But you can start using the new parameters. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 05:07, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. Though I was kind of hoping no had noticed that teeny little problem. :-0

I've been updating the "historical" (pre-1900) quakes (and somewhat amazed that I keep finding more), and the "doublet" quakes. But I think I'll pass on the other 600+ quake articles. ♦ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 21:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

@J. Johnson: OK, appreciate the tracking you've embedded. Will get to the remainder at some point. Thanks again, Dawnseeker2000 18:43, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't understand why me edits were removed. Topic:Syria[edit]

I may have added the reference in a wrong format. However, in the infobox template, a [needs update] was showing. I have added a new reference while keeping the data unchanged because in the PDF article (SYRIA 2014 INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM REPORT) issued by the Department of State has stated that religious groups in Syria are as the following: "Sunni Muslims are estimated to constitute 74 percent of the population and are present throughout the country. The Sunni population includes ethnic Arabs, Kurds, Circassians, Chechens, and some Turkomans. Other Muslim groups, including Alawites, Ismailis, and Shia, together constitute 13 percent. Druze account for 3 percent of the population. Christian groups constituted 10 percent of the population before the civil war..."[1] If I did anything wrong, please elaborate. Thanks, and thanks for keeping Wikipedia clean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adeeb tra (talkcontribs) 05:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, go ahead and restore your link. Your change left the article with a bad category (Category:Wikipedia articles in need of updating from February 2023). Just remove the update-inline template while you're restoring your edit. Thanks, Dawnseeker2000 06:09, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

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A kitten for you![edit]

Kitten (06) by Ron.jpg

I was all ready to give you a barnstar for your sustained and tireless efforts against vandalism, but then I realized that you already have one, and, moreover, that this kitten is cuter (and cooler)! Anyway, thank you for your work combating vandals! Have a wonderful day!

Javert2113 (talk) 19:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Opinion request[edit]

Dawnseeker2000, I see you have edited many geology articles so I would like to have your opinion on this renaming proposal: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_17#Magmatism_not_igneous_petrolog. Thank you! Mamayuco (talk) 21:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible AWB glitch[edit]

Have a look at this edit... I think I've fixed it, but you might like to check me. Andrewa (talk) 05:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for posting. I had a quick look on my phone while out working, but let me take a closer look tomorrow on my desktop computer. Dawnseeker2000 07:44, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Your Edit[edit]

Hi, Im new here.. I see that You have did a recent edit on the Page of Great Power , Please Can you Kindly Fix the Italian sources? Seems that after your edit something has happen. I have talked you Because in Past someone wanted to destroy the Italian sources. Have a nice day!.--AlfaRocket (talk) 21:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

ISC links[edit]

Hi, I've been going through updating infoboxes for 21st century earthquakes and came across two (the 2017 Leyte earthquake and the 2017 Central Mexico earthquake) where the isc-event number was wrong - the link gave an event described as "Off south coast of northwest Africa", (which is another way of saying at Lat. 0, Long. 0 I suspect) and "I am sorry but an error has occurred. Please contact the ISC and it will be investigated." Not sure what's going on there, but thought you should know as you added them. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 20:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, I'm usually pretty diligent and check my work, so don't know what happened there. Thank you for fixing it. Dawnseeker2000 21:11, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Mercury Cougar information[edit]

The generations listed under Mercury Cougar are wrong - 1st is 1967/68, 2nd is 69/70, 3rd is 71-73, 4th is 74-76, 5th is 77-79, 6th is 80-82, 7th is 83-88, 8th is 89-97. I have seen the80s and 90s broken out even more. MN12 chassis was the last of the rear drive cats. Cougar Club of America and Legendary Cougar Magazine are my sources which I edit and write articles for both. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cougarsman (talkcontribs) 00:06, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Lead of Intelligence[edit]

Hello, I ask you simply because your main language is English and because I presume you are "new" to the page Intelligence (personally, I read it too many times, and my brain cannot correctly perceive the pace that the page's text would take for a newcomer, anymore): reading from the start-"Intelligence has been..."- could you please check whether the grammar, pace, elegance, and clearness of the page's lead section are OK for an encyclopedia?
Feel free to suggest changes of any kind...
In advance, thank you very much! Drow (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


@Pond1991: seems to be just adding white spaces. Should something be done? Ping me please if you respond, my watchlist is huge. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 14:13, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Mr. Tide rolls left a perfectly-worded message on their talk page this morning, so let's gauge their response to that. Thanks both, Dawnseeker2000 18:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
This evening (an hour ago) for me. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:02, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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A Dobos torte for you![edit]

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You made an edit to the Seabee article that I thanked you for and got a chuckle in return. My contact with other editors has been limited to mostly my being told how I have it wrong. However, a "Special request" was posted to my talk page by the Public Affairs Officer of U.S. Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 11 requesting that I do the Battalion's article on Wikipedia. They had attempted to do it, but ran into COI issues. I accepted the request telling them that I could not tell them how long it would take as I knew absolutely nothing about the unit and would have to do a lot of reading. All of which I did, submitted to Wikipedia, and was accepted. Now, an editor has post a "possible COI tag" on the article for my having done the thing. So, if you have a moment would care to give it all a look. Thank you. Mcb133aco (talk) 01:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 01:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Mcb133aco: Hello again! Yes, I remember our brief interaction a few months ago. JJohnson was the comedian :) I looked over your article but I don't think I can help out. My WP skills are pretty narrow in scope. Dawnseeker2000 06:35, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your time. (talk) 17:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)mcb133aco156.99.40.14 (talk) 17:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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