User talk:Declangi

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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Declangi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Lake Whillans. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Thanks![edit]

Hey Declangi. Thanks so much for writing Chong Mek; I was reading through it while patrolling new pages. A lovely article. Hope you like it here! Keep up the good work :). Ironholds (talk) 23:55, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Great use of photographs in articles! Bruno Russell (talk) 15:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For all of the nature stubs you have created. --Forward Unto Dawn 10:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

En-dashes vs. hyphens[edit]

Hi, good to see additions to the lists of botanists by author abbreviation. Please note that Wikipedia requires an en-dash not a hyphen to be used in the first and last places in an entry like

* '''Pit.''' – [[Charles-Joseph Marie Pitard]] (1873–1927)

(but not in "Charles-Joseph" which is rightly a hypen). If you're not sure how to enter an en-dash, just copy a line from above and modify it. Thanks! Peter coxhead (talk) 10:47, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Peter. Good that you let me know about this before I added more people to the lists. The hazards of cutting/pasting from IPNI. Declangi (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I do understand. I'm not endorsing Wikipedia's somewhat fiddly rules on hyphens/dashes, just noting them! :-) Peter coxhead (talk) 22:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

A page you started (Baissea multiflora) has been reviewed![edit]

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Plant genera with one species[edit]

I hope you're not put off by my merging the articles you created on monotypic genera with the articles on the species. You've been doing some fantastic work, but there really isn't much to say in an article about a genus with a single species that doesn't also apply to an article about the species itself. You can save yourself a little effort by keeping the genus and species in the same article when the two ranks cover the same plant. Either way, thanks for the work you've been doing. Plantdrew (talk) 05:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Not at all. Apologies from me for your trouble of having to do those merges. Makes perfect sense re: monotypic taxa and I should have been following the already established guidelines under WP:FLORA. Thanks for your work on this. Declangi (talk) 06:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Good Job![edit]

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Great job on creating many stubs about various plants. — Carnivorous Bunny (talk) 16:45, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes you're doing really well, I've requested you be given autopatrolled rights. Keep up the good work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks to you both. To Carnivorous Bunny for the fine Tesseract. And to Dr. Blofeld for the possible upgrade to autopatrolled rights. - Declan Declangi (talk) 10:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

You now have autopatrolled rights! Keep up the good work! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Ilex glomerata[edit]

Hello Declangi. I see that you've recently created Ilex glomerata and added it to the list of species at Holly, but for reasons I cannot fathom, your addition currently shows as a red link. Are you able to perceive why? I'm somewhat at a loss. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I see the same behaviour. The redlink and lack of autocomplete in the search box. But by every other measure the page is there. Clicking on the redlink brings me to the page, typing the full name in the search box the same. And search results show it as already there. I'm also puzzled for now. Declan Declangi (talk) 12:39, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Folks, that redlink occurs due to the page store in cache, since your editing means, by definition, you’ve been viewing the page frequently. This page store cache is what the Purge menu item fixes, as it empties the cache so the latest copy of the page gets retrieved directly from the server. Once we know this small point, it’s all too easy! All the best --Macropneuma 15:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Ban Ahong[edit]

I just by chance discovered that article you created almost a year ago, and de-orphaned it. Quiet good for an article on such a small topic, much better than most of the Tambon articles someone mass-created without knowing anything about Thailand. Since I try to keep tracks of the articles on the administrative subdivisions of Thailand - especially using Wikidata, I wonder if you have created any other similar articles on Thai villages or Tambon which I may have missed? andy (talk) 08:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy, thanks for your comments. The only other similar article I've created is on Chong Mek. I've done more extensive Thailand articles on a number of its national parks and temples. Declan Declangi (talk) 10:20, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Dysoxylum alliaceum[edit]

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DYK for Dysoxylum parasiticum[edit]

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Canarium hirsutum[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Great job on dams in Thailand! NortyNort (Holla) 12:24, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for this and for your additions to those articles. Declan Declangi (talk) 02:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks: WGSRPD categories[edit]

Hi! I just wanted to pop by and say thanks for working on the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. I started working on re-aligning the flora categories a while ago but didn't get very far. If you haven't seen it yet, I compiled the list of categories and the WGSRPD hierarchy at WP:PLANTS/WGSRPD. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 15:57, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Ryan, I appreciate this. For some time now I've wanted to improve the geographical categorisation of plant articles in the Southeast Asia region. I'm now working on bringing this into line with the WGSRPD hierarchy and have been using your excellent compilation as a guide. First up for me was Category:Flora of Indo-China. I hope to work south and east from there. – Declan Declangi (talk) 22:48, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Declangi, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, especially your recent creation of Xe Pian National Protected Area. Keep up the good work! You are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 07:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for this, Anupam. And for your timely review of the new article. Declangi (talk) 08:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Parochetus[edit]

Hi Declangi,

I'm slightly confused by this edit. In particular, you replaced Category:Flora of Tropical Africa with the less precise Category:Flora of Africa. (The other changes also seem to be towards less precision or similar precision.) Why is that? --Stemonitis (talk) 05:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Stemonitis, because Flora of Tropical Africa is not a WGSRPD category and the alternative was to add the four regional WGSRPD Africa categories that the species is native to, at least according to GRIN. Category:Flora of the Himalayas is covered by WGSRPD Category:Flora of the Indian Subcontinent and in turn by Category:Flora of tropical Asia, which also encompasses the Indo-China and Malesia distribution. Category:Flora of China didn't seem covered by the prior categories so I added it. I thought about adding the four Africa regional categories but it seemed that the number of categories would get a little long. But I'm happy to do that in the interests of being more specific. - Declan Declangi (talk) 06:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. I thought there must be a reason, but it wasn't clear from the edit summary. --Stemonitis (talk) 07:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
You're right: the edit summary was no help there. Mentioning in particular Flora of Tropical Africa vs. WGSRPD would have been better. Declangi (talk) 07:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
To be fair, I should have realised, but I have never got my head around WGSRPD! --Stemonitis (talk) 08:08, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Category:Trees of Yemen[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Bullata (disambiguation)[edit]

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Lathyrus montanus[edit]

Thanks for that revert. I hesitate to edit Lathyrus linifolius to add Lathyrus montanus as a synonym, though I have put a redirect together. I note the image on the Ll page is Lathyrus linifolius subsp. montanus and would hate to mistake a subspecies for a synonym. Perhaps my SSSI citation was being a little casual, and should have specified the trinomial Lathyrus linifolius montanus? Anyway: pleased to be put right; thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:52, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks for your message and understanding of my undo. After your message, I added synonyms (per The Plant List/ILDIS) to Lathyrus linifolius, including L. montanus. Thanks for creating the redirect from L. montanus, all accepted synonyms should have such a redirect. I created redirects for the other synonyms. I made a minor change to the type of your redirect: this now places it in alternative plant scientific names - a more specific category.
The image for L. linifolius was confusing to me, captioned as being for a subspecies but perhaps originally being of Pisum montanum, an unresolved species. I changed it to an image being more definitely L. linifolius. Regarding citation, I think you may be referring to your article Barrow Burn Meadows? If so, your referencing L. montanus in the text looks fine to me. Makes it easy to compare with the source. And the beauty of redirects is that clicking on L. montanus takes the reader to L. linifolius. Very nice articles on the SSSIs, by the way. Declangi (talk) 08:37, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Declangi, for going the extra distance to improve L. linifolius & redirects. I take my hat off to those like you who have a clue when it comes to botany; I'm constantly amazed at the blue-links that appear when I link SSSI binomials. All most gratifying. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

New articles[edit]

Hi, if you start articles which are not stubs can you add them to Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon list rather than the challenge? We'll accept new articles for the main list, not just destubs, it's all a general improvement drive (and currently need over 1200 entries to reach the target), so decent new articles which are sourced are welcome though not part of the contest itself. The articles will join the challenge at the end of the contest anyway. Feel free to move the start class ones you've done into that list.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:20, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: thanks for suggesting this move. I took a look at the articles I added to the Challenge and on review I thought only one suitable for transfer. This is due to the 1.5k prose criterion in Stubathon vs. the 1k criterion Challenge mentions in its introduction. Before now, I hadn't really thought that my articles were suited for the Destubathon and didn't read its rules in detail. Now that I have, I tried to stick to the letter of those rules on size, so only a single transfer. I've left my article vs. stub designations on Challenge as is, per its guideline, but can change all my existing entries to stub if that would make things clearer. Thanks for your all your hard work supervising and contributing to these worthwhile challenges. Declangi (talk) 09:11, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your work too! Yes, OK then. You're welcome to also destub articles as part of the Destubathon. People who don't want to win prizes can just add their entries to the list and skip the entries page. Keep up the great work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Re: Plant categories[edit]

Hello Declangi. Thank you for pointing out the listing criteria of the Trees of the Indian Subcontinent category. However, I've also noticed that similar categories share species for the sake of more refined searches (e.g: if I only were to look for tree species of Nepal I'd wish to have all the Nepali species listed, including those that are also present in neighboring countries). Because of that, I suggest we keep Dysoxylum excelsum present on both lists. Thank you. Frank R 1981 (talk) 05:09, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

(Discussion thread returned to origin at User talk:Frank R 1981#Plant_categories)

Derry/Londonderry name dispute[edit]

Hello and thank you for your message. The county Derry is known by British establishment as LondonDerry. In the Republic of Ireland, the city and county are almost always referred to as Derry, on maps, in the media and in conversation. Please see any road sign in the Republic of Ireland. I applied the change to incorporate all views for a balanced inclusion and to inform readers . For references please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Londonderry. Perhaps inclusion of both names is the solution. Thank you Scamallach (talk) 06:09, 17 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scamallach (talkcontribs)

Hi Scamallach, I understand the concerns you raise above and that (in real life) indeed the city and county are referred to differently depending on context. You've raised what is a Wikipedia controversy of long standing. In my own, and previous, edit summaries for List of loughs of Ireland the Wikipedia guideline WP:DERRY is referred to. I hope you have a chance to read this guideline. It is a compromise solution, arrived at in 2004, to avoid using the awkward compound term "Derry/Londonderry" (or "Londonderry/Derry") at every reference. You might also look at the opening paragraph of Limavady to see an example of references to both County Londonderry and Derry. This is in keeping with the guideline. Guidelines like this are arrived at by consensus, an important part of building the encyclopedia. I realise that as a newcomer some guidelines may seem puzzling, but the aim is an ever-improving encyclopedia for all readers and I hope you won't be discouraged. Thanks Declangi (talk)

The false positive you reported[edit]

When checking the false positive reports, I saw you reported http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?2688 as being alive. When I checked it, I found the page wouldn't load and ends up timing out. Please be careful when reporting URLs and check to make sure they are alive.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:38, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit[edit]

Why do you delete everything I add to articles?

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Ficus Benghalensis[edit]

Hello Declangi Sorry to bother you, but I noticed, while reading the page on Ficus Benghalensis, an incoherence in the "Notable Specimens" section, and also in the "Kabirvad" page (which is a specimen of Ficus Benghalensis). In both pages, that specimen is said to spread over 3 square kilometers, which is not possible according to other data on the same pages. The second source in the "Kabirvad" page says "3 kms", but with a circumference of 610 m it is not possible. The person who edited the page seems to have been deleted, that is why I contact you, since you seem to be active on the page, and you seem to know better than me what to do in such a case. I apologize again if I did not react in the appropriate way. And I apologize for my language, English is not my native language. Thanks. Ulugunu (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2017 (UTC)UlugunuUlugunu (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello @Ulugunu: you have a very good point and that figure seems much too big. After a little investigation, I could find no other source than Gujarat Tourism for that figure. It's an enormous area and far beyond that of other record large banyan trees. I propose to remove the statement from both pages, but I've put a message at Talk:Kabirvad first, in case others have thoughts. Declangi (talk) 05:15, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello again @Ulugunu: I've now updated the canopy area here and at Kabirvad, based on the paper by YD Bar-Ness. Declangi (talk) 04:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Flora of Guam & Marianas[edit]

Hi Declangi, I'd be interested in revising the categories for some of the flora in the Pacific region as there's some redundancy. As there were both Category:Flora of the Northern Marianas Islands, Category:Flora of the Marianas, and Category:Flora of Guam I opted for the more specific category that treats Guam and the CNMI as separate geopolitical entities; moreover, some species are found in only one or the other (Eugenia bryanii and Solanum guamense today are only found on Guam; Osmoxylon mariannense, Nesogenes rotensis, and Drypetes rotensis are found in the CNMI but not Guam. I'm fine with lumping Guam and the CNMI together as Category:Flora of the Marianas, but I don't think it'd be necessary to have the other two categories otherwise. Let me know your thoughts Manila folder (talk) 23:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Manila folder: For Serianthes nelsonii , the lead says the species is native to Guam and Rota. Category:Flora of Marianas consists of only two subcategories: Category:Flora of the Northern Mariana Islands and Category:Flora of Guam. Plant species are normally categorised by the most specific category that encompasses them. Therefore to include both Guam and Rota, Flora of Marianas is needed. Osmoxylon mariannense and Nesogenes rotensis look to be correctly categorised as they are endemic to Rota, therefore Flora of the Northern Mariana Islands. Detailed guidelines on the geographical category scheme and the hierarchy, including the above categories, are at WP:PLANTS/WGSRPD. Thanks Declangi (talk) 23:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)