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WikiProject Films coordinator elections[edit]

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Order of the Rising Sun[edit]

I quite like your innovative edit to Order of the Rising Sun. It improves the array in an immediately clear way. Good work. --Tenmei (talk) 18:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I just happened to stumble upon this page. There is a more generic "multi column" template, but I couldn't find it now. I also just changed the surname firstname linking, because it is not correct to have "surprise links" (where a link says one thing, i.e. "surname", but the link unexpectedly goes to that specific person's page) — Deon Steyn (talk) 18:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I myself was uncertain about how best to handle Musa Ghiatuddin Riayat Shah, Sultan of Selangor (1893-1955) ...? In this context, it doesn't much matter; however, the issue re-asserts itself with recipients of the Order of the Chrysanthemum. I avoiding any possible problems by simply doing nothing at all. Your choices seem better than mine -- right or wrong, and I suspect that there really is no "right" or "wrong" in terms of how to handle a series of name in this article or in Order of the Sacred Treasure. Maybe it might have been possible for someone else to create a problem with Ozaki Yukio, but it obviously caused no confusion whatsoever as far as you're concerned.
What I hadn't considered was the "surprise links" factor you've identified above. I simply didn't construe the issues to include this as a plausible concern, and I now see things differently.
Since you have taken more than a moment to look at these Imperial decorations pages, perhaps I might press a little further with a few questions:
  • 1. I've conventionally added birth/death dates for those recipients who are no longer living. Good enough? Can you think of a better way to handle this?
  • 2. I've identified the year in which the honor was bestowed -- right after the name in the case of those recipients who are still living, and at the beginning of the associated in-line citation when the honoree is not living. Good enough? Can you think of a better way to handle this?
  • 3. I've associated a verifying in-line citation with any and all names, regardless of whether the name has an internal link to a Wikipedia article. Good enough? Can you think of a better way to handle this?
  • 4 I've not really figured out a way to link those recipients who have received multiple honors, but it doesn't occur often enough to have become much of an issue. Nevertheless, would that have seemed helpful or superfluous? Does this make sense to you? Do you have any comments or suggestions?
  • 5 As it happens, the first non-Japanese to actually receive his Order directly from Emperor Meiji was the American, Jacob Schiff. There is a distinction, but I'm persuaded that in this specific article, it probably does not matter whether the honor is bestowed directly by the emperor or by an ambassador. That becomes something which can be explained (or not) in the article about the specific honoree. Does this make sense to you? Do you have any comments or suggestions?
Questions do tend to accumulate, but I don't need answers -- not really. If these seem at all onerous, please give it no further thought. --Tenmei (talk) 20:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Normally the wikilink (or wl for short) should show what is being linked to, the term I couldn't remember yesterday was "easter egg" links :-) It is discussed in this guidelines Wikipedia:Piped link#Intuitiveness. I did not evaluate firstname/surname order as it seemed the previous editors had already examined this. The rest of the lists looks fine to me, but feel free to go crazy and change whatever you like :-)
It did strike me that a "infobox" or "navbox" to put on each page instead of the "see also" section which is a little plain and boring. I'll hack something together going from examples in Wikipedia:WikiProject Orders, Decorations, and Medals/Project Templates (bottom of page)...
ps. For a numbered list like your 5 points abobve, you can use # instead of * ;-)
— Deon Steyn (talk) 11:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I created a new template (Template:Honors and decorations of Japan) and put it in the "See also" sections of all the orders. See the templates talk page Template talk:Japanese Honors and Decorations for more suggestions and ideas to expand it. —&nbspDeon Steyn (talk) 12:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Medals of Honour (Japan)‎[edit]

Yes -- once again your approach is better. At this stage of Wikipedia development, I expect this to be the slowest growing of the Japanese categories; but it promises to become the most unwieldy in due course. Your modest format-change more effectively anticipates the likely future prospects. Good edit. --Tenmei (talk) 12:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Broken named reference in Oil price increases since 2003[edit]

I fixed what seemed to be a broken named reference in Oil price increases since 2003 (the invalid reference had "Kramer" instead of "Krane"). I also moved the references about Iraq in 2006 from the 2004 section to the 2006 section. It seems you originally added that content to this revision. You may want to check my diff to make sure I properly interpreted the article's history and I understood your intent. If you were not the original editor then never mind. --Teratornis (talk) 20:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

No, your corrections are correct ;-) Thanks for cleaning up after me! — Deon Steyn (talk) 20:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

List of camouflage patterns: Conversion of all sections to table format completed[edit]

Hi, I just completed converting all sections to table format in your article List of camouflage patterns. What do you think of my job? (Please copy your reply onto the article's discussion page) --Henrickson User talk | Contribs 08:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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Berettas[edit]

You seem to know a lot about firearms. About 10 years ago here in NSW a man was sent to prison for life without parole for having organised the murder of a politician. Part of the evidence was that the firearm used was an unusual one. In a TV program today ( http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2008/s2210163.htm ) it was described by the prosecutor as "...a very, very rare .35 calibre 1935 Beretta...". The list of Beretta firearms here in Wp lists two pre-WW2 Beretta pistols neither of which are .35s. My question is: did Beretta ever make such a weapon even as a prototype prior to WW2? Thanks for your time Albatross2147 (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on Berettas, but there are two cloudy issues in the quoted statement, namely the calibre and the Beretta model names. Firstly the caliber; just referring to a nominal caliber size doesn't tell us which cartridge it is. As you can see from the table of 9 mm calibers there are 15 pistol cartridges of ".35 inch" caliber. Looking at this article on the history of the Model 1934/5 it could be either a .380 ACP (commonly known outside of the USA as "9mm short") or the 9 mm Glisenti. As for the Berettas themselves, it seems the very popular Models 1934 and 1935 were indeed manufactured from the middle 1930's, i.e. pre-WW2 (and right into the 1990s!).
The Model 1935 (adopted by Italian Navy and Air force) developed from the Model 1931, both being chambered in the smaller .32 ACP (a.k.a. 7.65 mm or 7.65 mm Browning). The Italian Army adopted the larger 9mm/.35 caliber Model 1934 which developed from the Model 1932(there was also a later commercial version, the Model 1937). The infobox for the Beretta M 1934 appears to be wrong as it lists the smaller .32 caliber... I will correct. Because both the M1934 and M1935 were produced for such a long period, including chaotic times of war, and in such large numbers (1 milllion M1934s and 500,000 M1935) it is quite possible that many variants and odd combinations exist and an M1935 (usually 7,65) chambered in a larger 9mm short would indeed be unusual and probably what the court transcript referred to. Deon Steyn (talk) 19:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC) 
Thanks for your help Albatross2147 (talk) 05:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

New York Accords[edit]

Hi Deon, please don't copy/paste copyright material as you did here from here. Cheers Socrates2008 (Talk) 11:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Ooops, sorry, have just realised that you moved it from another article. Socrates2008 (Talk) 13:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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MfD[edit]

Deon, please take a look at this Mfd if you have a min. Cheers Socrates2008 (Talk) 12:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument[edit]

Deon, I'm skeptical of your recent addition to Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument and have opened a discussion regarding it on Talk:Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Please join. Thanks! --R27182818 (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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Win & Win[edit]

I hate to remove those links after you dug them up, but all they are is pictures of some nameless person shooting a bow. We need solid, textual references that will satisfy people who don't know any of these people by sight. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that we need proper references, unfortunately I couldn't get in to the win-archery.com site and plonked down those in the mean time... where I'm sure they'd be listed. I'll try again from a difference computer. I see you also restored the notability... that is a bit trickier: used by and sponsor of Olympic champions, but perhaps no news coverage? — Deon Steyn (talk) 07:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films coordinator elections - voting now open![edit]

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Bugatti[edit]

Happy New Year! What does it mean, "The original Bugatti brand failed with the coming of World War II, like many high-end marques of the time"? The next few sentences talk about how it produced it's last car in the 1950s and closed in the 1960s. Maybe a bit can be put in about how it started up again after the war? I'd be happy to help, but I don't know anything about the company except that it was discussed in a Salman Rushdie novel, I saw a Veyron in Beverly Hills, and there was just a BBC story about one of their cars found in a garage [1] (link to story). Cheers! ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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Suid-Afrika[edit]

Halo Deon

Ek sien dat jy is ook vanaf Suid-Afrika! Sal graag bietjie meer met jou wil gesels. Ek werk ook baie aan die Grensoorlog bladsye. Het gesien jy het die tipe bladsye begin aanpas.

Groete Lourie Pieterse

Suggested move: Battle of Cassinga to Cassinga massacre[edit]

Hi. Since you've been active on the discussion page for the Battle of Cuito Cuanavale recently, I thought you might be interested in the discussion around the requested move of Battle of Cassinga to a new title of Cassinga massacre. The discussion has only attracted three editors so far (including myself), and I think it would be beneficial to have the input there of some of the more regular contributors to Border War articles. — Impi (talk) 10:39, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

COI Allegation[edit]

Hello, I'd like to make you aware of an allegation that has been made against you on the COI noticeboard by user:PJHaseldine. Socrates2008 (Talk) 08:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

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Murciélago edit[edit]

Hi - I reverted your addition as it featured no references for the data; if you have references please cite them in the re-edit. Thanks. Quaeler (talk) 13:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I would ask that you not remove new content simply because it is not cited. A citation request would have been more appropriate and a simple internet search would have revealed many sources for the information. I have revert back to my version and added a citation. — Deon Steyn (talk) 05:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Irish Rugby Player Flags[edit]

I removed to tricolour from Neil Best and Alan Quinlan as Irish rugby players don't play under the tricolour but rather the IRFU flag which can't be used due to copyright issues. GainLine 09:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

And their nationality? Sorry for the confusion, but the flags are meant to indicate nationality only, not whether the have represented their country. They are Irish citizens? Thanks for the help. — Deon Steyn (talk) 10:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I have restored the flags, Union flag in the case of Best (Northern Ireland) and Ireland flag in the case of Quinlan. In both cases I judged by their place of birth what their nationalities were. — Deon Steyn (talk) 10:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, See talk on List of rugby union players banned for eye gouging. I see where you're going but its a very delicate area. GainLine 10:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

List of rugby union players banned for eye gouging[edit]

Hi. I'm proposing a change in article name here:- Talk:List of rugby union players banned for eye gouging if you would like to input GainLine 13:29, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Gert Smal[edit]

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Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules[edit]

I like the way you charted the deliveries. The way I had set it up just didn't look right, but I didn't really have any idea how to proceed. I will probably port this over to other aircraft pages I work on. Thanks again! Ng.j (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

No worries, glad you like it. It's something I've used before and I prefer it to some graphics, because it's easier for someone else to add another row in future. — Deon Steyn (talk) 09:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

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