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Administration = Management, the act of directing (Not to be confused with deleting) people towards "accomplishing" a goal.[edit]

Waste. Undolie (talk) 06:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Get rid of ALL adminisrators who delete more than they add. Starting with Derek_Ross. If you don't know what the difference between Administration, Editing and Destruction is then how is it possible to administer anything thats deleated?. DOH. HELLO?. Administration = Management, the act of directing (Not to be confused with deleting) people towards "accomplishing" a goal. Undolie (talk) 06:33, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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Scots Wikipedia[edit]


I see you used to be an administrator on the Scots Wikipedia and haven't edited it for over four years but have continued with wikipedia. I would like to know what you think about this. Munci (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'm a little disappointed I suppose but it's not really a big deal. I don't place a lot of importance on being an administrator or not. -- Derek Ross | Talk 00:35, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
I see. What about the wikipedia in general? Myself, I started editing it regularly recently and noticed that there were more editors beforehand. Munci (talk) 06:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
I'm still a strong supporter of all Wikipedias in every language. However I have been contributing since 2001 and feel that I have done my share over the years, so I hope that I can be forgiven for not editing as much (on any Wikipedia) as I used to. I am delighted to hear of newer editors such as yourself taking the baton from the likes of me. I still think that Scots Wikipedia is important as one of the biggest "all-Scots" sites on the Internet. -- Derek Ross | Talk 00:21, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Burns supper[edit]

Not really a problem and I'm not about to revert, but I'm a little puzzled as to your edits here. "no starters, just soup", you say. In what way is soup not a starter? Every restaurant I've ever been to and person I've ever been to one with considers soup to be a starter. And in what way does a hors d'oeuvre differ from a starter? It's just a more pretentious way of saying the same thing! Once upon a time these may all have referred to different things; now they do not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:19, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, congratulations, you've now met someone who doesn't consider soup to be a starter! In a full, formal dinner, the soup course may or may not be the starter. A Burns supper of the type described in our "Order of the Supper" is a formal dinner, so "soup course". As for the hors d'oeuvres or starter thing, nothing pretentious about it: the article uses UK English and that's just accepted usage. Check out our article on hors d'oeuvres for why it's a better word to use for something like a starter which does not start the meal. Just like appetizer is a better word for something like a starter which you have before the meal. Cheers. -- Derek Ross | Talk 17:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm British born and bred. I've never heard anyone refer to an hors d'oeuvre in normal speech. Ever. Neither have I ever seen it on a menu, including for Burns suppers. I would personally consider it very old-fashioned (from an era when it was fashionable to put everything on the menu in French, no matter how ordinary the food was in English) or the height of pretension restricted only to dinners either in extraordinarily high-class surroundings or those that were pretending to be, and I suspect most other British people would agree with me. So no, it isn't accepted usage in modern UK English at all, although I'm not disputing it once was. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Snap! I'm British born and bred too! And I never thought of Northeast Scotland as being particularly high-class or pretentious but I've heard plenty of people using "hors d'oeuvres" in normal speech there over the years. Admittedly I never hear it used in Canada. But isn't it weird how our experiences are so different? -- Derek Ross | Talk 16:32, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm English, so maybe the Scots have retained the old-style terminology for longer than we have. But I'm middle-aged and I can honestly say I've never heard it commonly used here. I understand its meaning of course, as I should imagine do most British people, but it isn't commonly used. Although as an archivist it's the sort of thing I see on old menus all the time, usually the same ones that are entirely in French but actually say prawn cocktail, roast chicken and fruit salad! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Good point. We Scots do tend to retain older usages, some more than others. I remember that it used to be said by Aberdonians during the 1970s that visiting Moray was like going back to the 60s. And going a bit further along the coast to Nairn was like going back to the 50s! -- Derek Ross | Talk 17:12, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Your administrator and bureaucrat status on gd.wikipedia[edit]

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Well, fair enough, if that's policy. I have been a Wikipedian since 2001 and am the person who "founded" the Gaelic Wikipedia, configured a lot of it and kept it going until enough Gaelic speakers took interest to make it self-supporting. As I am not a great Gaelic speaker myself, I have taken a step backwards to allow better speakers to take over. Hence my lack of edits in the last couple of years. I don't believe the small community has any objection to my "sleeper" role and they have called on me in the past when they have needed assistance. You can confirm this by talking to the other bureaucrats on the if you wish. The community is really too small to have a strong opinion on my status or lack of it. They are much more interested in editing the encyclopedia than in who the bureaucrats are but I'd like to retain my status. However if you still wish to remove it, so be it. I won't argue. -- Derek Ross | Talk 14:14, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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