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Train-the-Trainer 2017: Invitation to participate[edit]

Hello Diptanshu.D,
It gives us great pleasure to inform that the Train-the-Trainer (TTT) 2017 programme organised by CIS-A2K is going to be held from 20-22 February 2017.

What is TTT?
Train the Trainer or TTT is a residential training program. The program attempts to groom leadership skills among the Indian Wikimedia community members. Earlier TTT have been conducted in 2013, 2015 and 2016.

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Your input is requested at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anasuya.D[edit]

Please comment on the case page: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anasuya.D which involves you. QEDK () 04:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

WP:INCUBATOR[edit]

I invite you to comment on my idea of article incubator. The idea is not new and details of the previous version can be found at WP:INCUBATOR. I would be glad if you enhance it with your experience. Feel free to improve upon the proposal that I have placed. Anasuya.D (talk) 09:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Insignificant edits with AWB[edit]

Hi! Please note Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser#Rules of use rule number 4. You shouldn't make automated edits that have little or no effect on the page like [1] and [2]. Both <references/> and {{reflist}} are valid syntaxes that people use. -- intgr [talk] 19:38, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

I thought that <references/> was less preferrable and was that {{reflist}} was more preferrable. Moreover, my actual objective has two stages. The first stage was to bring uniformity to the code. Although <references/> works, it is in html rather than wikicode and I thought that the latter was preferred. The second stage was to assign columns of 30em for medical articles that have more than 10 references. With {{reflist}} in place, this could be done seamlessly. This can be done easily using AWB. However, I would take care to ensure that I go through the user manual once again.DiptanshuTalk 22:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
I checked Template:Reflist. <references /> is certainly not an equivalent to {{reflist}} and the none of the functionalities are defined for the former. The former has only been retained as the Cite template makes use of it. So, I would beg to differ with you that the automated edits that have little or no effect on the page. DiptanshuTalk 00:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
If you don't use any of the features provided by {{reflist}} then they are equivalent. Regardless of which form is preferred, "bringing uniformity to code" is exactly what you shouldn't use AWB for. Every change to a page has a cost -- in the amount of time it takes for others to review your change in their watchlist, making browsing article history more complicated, possibly hiding vandalism edits due to Mediawiki watchlist limitations, the slim chance of unintentionally breaking something, etc. For this reason, AWB has its rules and Wikipedia has a policy (WP:COSMETICBOT). -- intgr [talk] 07:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your inputs. I actually intended to split the references into two columns in case of articles having a relatively long list of references. For that I felt that unifying the code is important and therefore formed the list of articles that I have been processing (work almost done). The general fixes are being made alongside. In the next stage I planned to remove the depricated {{reflist|2}} as well as to run form a list of articles wherein the long single column of references needs to be split into multiple columns of 30em. I understand that your suspicion on me has increased your work load but A few board members of WikiProject Medicine know about the work I do. I am a long term Wikipedian and you should have already found out that I have not vandalized anything ever till now. So, possibly you could relax a bit. DiptanshuTalk 07:51, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Access of Wikipedia on mobile has increased and so, I think that it matters how a page renders on various resolutions. In such a case I do not consider the work as insignificant. This is certainly different from removing double spaces and stuff like that. DiptanshuTalk 07:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I never said that you vandalised anything. I meant that performing trivial edits can hide vandalism edits made by other people. If you want to use AWB for making significant edits (that actually change articles visually) that there's consensus for, go ahead. All I'm saying is, please follow AWB rules and Wikipedia bot policy -- don't make edits merely to "bring uniformity". WikiProject Medicine cannot grant you exemptions from following Wikipedia policies. -- intgr [talk] 08:07, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I have got what you have said and would be keeping it in account in case of my future actions. As of now, the list of pages processed in that fashion is almost at completion and so I would request you to bear with it. I will surely put AWB to better use in the future. DiptanshuTalk 08:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Any edit can "hide" previous edits (good or bad) for people who haven't configured their watchlists to see them. They're never hidden from Special:RecentChanges or WP:Huggle or similar tools, though, and many experienced editors have changed their watchlist settings, so this isn't usually a fatal problem.
On the actual question, <references /> is slightly faster than the template, so if you're not using columns or other features, then it would probably be better to leave it alone. This is perhaps especially true if the page is mostly being edited by someone who prefers the visual editor, because the list of references will auto-update while editors are inserting new references if the native wikitext code is on the page, but the template can't show the changes until the page is saved. Plain, native <references /> is also preferable for articles that will be translated, because many Wikipedias don't have a reflist template (the German Wikipedia even seems to have banned its use). On the other hand, if you want to use columns, that's currently the only way to do it. Dynamic columns are on the way, though: see the top section of Template talk:Reflist for an update. {{reflist|2}} will soon behave the same as {{reflist|30em}} (or whatever minimum size has been chosen). This should solve the fixed-column problem that template creates for people using smartphones. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:48, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
WhatamIdoing, thanks for your inputs. In fact, my main objective was to replace the fixed column references with 30em columns wherever applicable. After running the initial round my next step would have been to generate the list of medicine related articles that have {{reflist}} and to replace it with {{reflist|30em}}. Furthermore, I also plan to replace {{reflist|2}} with {{reflist|30em}}. This had been the purpose of my edits. DiptanshuTalk 05:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
It sounds like I am able to save you the trouble of making all those edits, then, given the events that are happening elsewhere. At minimum, I recommend postponing this project for a while. Also, I recommend talking it over with the other CHECKWIKI folks before doing it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
WhatamIdoing: That sounds good. As of now there are only 250 pages left to be processed in the first round from among about 25,000 medicine related pages. I will stop it outright. I was planning to begin replacing {{reflist|2}} with {{reflist|30em}} immediately after. Should I halt that too? Thereafter, I was planning to take up [[Category:All WikiProject Medicine articles]] and define a logic to form the list from pages having 11 or more instances of </ref> (to indicate the number of references) and then run a find and replace of {{reflist}} with {{reflist|30em}}. Should I halt that too? Please suggest.
Could you please suggest any CHECKWIKI user whom I could consult in this regard? DiptanshuTalk 08:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
{{reflist|2}} behaving the same as {{reflist|30em}} is in the test code, but hasn't gone live. It hasn't been announced yet either, so there's no way you would have known except if you follow the {{reflist}} talk page. Hold off on replacing/adding any reflist template for now.
There's an ARB case going on about cosmetic edits with AWB. It's dangerous right now to even think about making a cosmetic edit with AWB. Dang, I thought it. WMF's Thought Police are going to haul me off now.
Something that could be done with AWB... The magiclink that does PMID 1234567 --> PMID 1234567 is going away. It is being replaced with [[pmid:1234567]] --> pmid:1234567. One can also use a pipe (|), like a regular wikilink... [[pmid:1234567|Rogers (2012)]] --> Rogers (2012). You can use a regex in AWB to change this over. If you don't know how to code regex's I can do one for you. A listing of pages using the magiclink is at Category:Pages using PMID magic links. I've noticed that some of the cases are when a novice editor adds a ref without using cite templates, but the rest of the article does use templates. In this case, it would be best to convert the bare ref to use a cite template. Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 102 dump (CheckWiki error #102) contains other PMID problems. Bgwhite (talk) 08:19, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Bgwhite for your inputs. I will discuss with you separately about regex and other uses of AWB. WhatamIdoing: I will hold off the project completely.
Earlier, I had discussed about colwidth here. Thereafter I have been adhering to 30em. I had not otherwise following the discussions on Reflist talk page. DiptanshuTalk 09:13, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I just got encouraged by ‪Magioladitis and need to ask Bgwhite and WhatamIdoing if I should get going once again. I would (also) be taking up the PMID stuff soon. DiptanshuTalk 18:44, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Your discussion about colwidth was in 2013. If it was still 2013-2016, then changing to {{reflist|30em}} would be appropriate. I was also changing it to {{reflist|30em}}. I no longer do this.
Changing {{reflist}} and <references /> --> {{reflist|2}} when there are more than 10 refs is still a good idea. As medical articles tend to have shorter refs, sometimes changing to {{reflist|3}} might be a better option than {{reflist|2}}.
In addition to PMIDs, adding {{DOI}} and {{PMC}} templates to bare refs is another thing that could be done with AWB. Bgwhite (talk) 21:52, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I recommend leaving the {{reflist}} changes alone for a while (maybe a month?). I figure that by that point, we'll have more information.
But I would strongly encourage you to make the PMID changes, as that's a source of annoyance for WPMED editors. I think that the PMID changes are much more urgent than the reflist columns. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:39, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I will stop with the {{reflist}} changes as of now. I will take up the PMID edits. I will have a look at it tomorrow and would then take it up. In the meantime WhatamIdoing would you please provide me inputs about my proposal meta:Grants:IdeaLab/Wiki Loves Social. DiptanshuTalk 02:34, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
I think you should be able to find some people who are interested in this. However, you may have to look past the English Wikipedia to find them. Do you have friends at the Bengali or Hindi Wikipedias? Some of the mid-size and small Wikipedias use social media heavily for discussions and collaboration. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your work with AWB. Please keep up the good work! Magioladitis (talk) 18:18, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Wow! Magioladitis I am flattered. I was getting the impression that my endeavour was discouraged and that I should not continue with it. I am new to use of AWB and would seek guidance from you. DiptanshuTalk 18:24, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

You are doing perfect. We need more wikignomes around! -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:26, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Magioladitis Should I go ahead with what I was doing? DiptanshuTalk 18:31, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
You shouldn't continue with edits that violate AWB rules and bot policy. You probably don't want to follow in Magioladitis's footsteps: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Magioladitis/Evidence. -- intgr [talk] 20:49, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

On the details you need to consult User:Bgwhite and User:WhatamIdoing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your inputs. DiptanshuTalk 18:40, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks Boleyn for reviewing the page. I have added references. The Medical Council of India recognises the college and I have added the details of the listing. DiptanshuTalk 18:44, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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