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User talk:Ngrussell814

Hi. I also first considered userfying this instead of deleting it myself. I believe you did the right thing although it's an autobio. I have since also rephrased our {{uw-autobio}} template as I think the existing one (which I placed on the user's talk page) was too harsh . --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of "Unimportant people"

Why should you delete people like "Kid Ink"? The Guy has albums out, and is an important person. his videos on youtube have had 100s of 1000s of views. people at public schools do reports over their favorite artist, and a lot of people use wikipedia for a lot of information. i would appreciate it if you dont delete bands/rappers that you dont like. -StellarBeatle — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I deleted the article because it infringed upon copyrighted material. ... discospinster talk 03:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Devon S. Morris

Hi, you deleted this article, but the author has attacked me here. Could you please rev del this? Thanks,   Abhishek   Talk to me 04:09, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Done, and I've also blocked the user. ... discospinster talk 04:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank You! Face-smile.svg   Abhishek   Talk to me 04:15, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Pacific Northwest tree octopus

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pacific Northwest tree octopus. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

  1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.Andy Dingley (talk) 15:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Please read the article's talk page for the reasoning behind my edits. ... discospinster talk 15:08, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
That would be the post you made after your 3rd deletion, and after my 3RR warning? Andy Dingley (talk) 15:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
No, it's the post that was made at the same time you were posting your warning (as you can see the time stamps are the same), while I was looking for the article Rock nest monster. ... discospinster talk 15:15, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Kith Meng

Hi Discospinter

I'm new so unsure if my second try will meet your approval ..

Instead of making a Royal Group page (which I had intended to then make a page about Kith Meng from, after your correction I instead just made Kith Meng's page and then included some details about the Royal Group (most interesting, I think, is his incredible journey!)

Also, could you help relocating Meng's photo to towards the top right of the page?

Please let me know if this is all OK with you


Petersgoldpan ( Petersgoldpan (talk) 15:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC) ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersgoldpan (talkcontribs) 14:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


Hi Discospinter

The Kith Meng image on the page I created was just re-arranged as I requested help with, thanks if that was you(?)

Another thing: can you please take a look at CamGSM -- it's got "multiple issues" but I think they're not valid

CamGSM's page's history seems weighted in the positive, and I added some extra more recent sources to try solidify things. I also shortened various parts in a bid to maintain neutrality


Petersgoldpan ( Petersgoldpan (talk) 15:30, 1 July 2011 (UTC) )

Hi, yes that was me who moved the image, and I also made a few minor formatting changes (de-capitalizing headings, removing some bolding where it didn't need to be). I will have a look at CamGSM. ... discospinster talk 18:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
The CamGSM article is much improved; thank you for your work on it. It still needs some more incoming links, but that's a relatively minor issue. I've removed most of the maintenance tags. ... discospinster talk 18:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Spinster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersgoldpan (talkcontribs) 18:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


The entry for "ScienceLogic" has been rewritten. Would you re-review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Boyko (talkcontribs) 16:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's better. Although I took out the section "Products & Services" because EM7 was already discussed in some detail in the intro, so having another section about it is unnecessary. If readers want to know more about what it does, they could click the reference link to go to ScienceLogic's webpage. ... discospinster talk 18:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks for your help. Brian Boyko (talk) 18:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Kith Meng User:Petersgoldpan/The Royal Group

Hi Discospinster,

According with Sphilbrick's response to my Wikipedia:Requests_for_feedback/2011_July_1#Kith_Meng

I sought to simplify & clean the Kith Meng & Royal Group (not live) User:Petersgoldpan/The Royal Group pages.

Is this now more appropriate?

I cannot live the Royal Group User:Petersgoldpan/The Royal Group page myself

Also, per your instructions, I added another link to the CamGSM page

Also, am I able to screen shot a company logo from to insert atop of the Royal Group page? Or do I need to email the company asking permission? I've seen many company's on Wikipedia with logos: how does this all work?


Petersgoldpan (Petersgoldpan (talk) 07:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC))

I think the Royal Group article is ready to go live so I've moved it into article space.
As for the corporate logo, the guidelines can be found at WP:LOGOS. Generally the use of the corporate logo on the Wikipedia page for that corporation would be considered "fair use" under U.S. copyright law, because it's used to illustrate the company. It must be low resolution so that it would not be useful for any other purpose (i.e. so someone won't want to take it and use it elsewhere). You wouldn't have to ask permission of the company to do this. However, when you upload it you have to explain precisely how the use of the image in the article is "fair use". An example of such an explanation is the Apple Inc. logo File:Apple-logo.png. If you need help with it let me know. ... discospinster talk 16:32, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

My Infant Needs Inc deleted need help with why.

you stated "A7 Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject". If the subject is the company its self how can it not indicate the significance of the subject? I know the artical was not good but i plan on going back and improving apon it over time. I was hopeing that someone with some decent editoral skills would come in and help, but now i guess i will have to start over because of the deletion, or is there a way of retrieving the artical so that it can be completed and updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaydeeself (talkcontribs) 21:43, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

In order to indicate the significance of a subject, the article must state how the company is notable. Wikipedia has a certain definition of "notability"; the general guidelines can be found at WP:N and the specific guidelines for companies are at WP:CORP. You would need to show that the company has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject (e.g. newspaper articles or editorial reviews in well-known consumer web pages). If you'd like to start a draft of an article to work on, you could do it in your userspace, at User:Jaydeeself/My Infant Needs Inc. I've moved the original article there. You should also read the page WP:Your first article; it will give you some tips on how to write the article. ... discospinster talk 00:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

New Year's Revolution (2012)

The creator of the article removed your prod. I've listed at afd. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 04:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi DsicoSpinster

Thanks for assisting. With footnoting news articles: whats the authoritative method? I wish to clean up footnotes.

Cheers (Petersgoldpan (click to talk) (talk) 09:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC))

~Authoritative Referencing~

Hi DsicoSpinster

Thanks for assisting. With footnoting news articles: whats the authoritative method? I wish to clean up footnotes.

For example, with footnotes:

"Cambodian mobile firm CamGSM gets $591 mln funding". Reuters. 4 November 2010. Retrieved 2 July 2011.


Lee, Yoomlin; Ismail, Netty (27 August 2008). "Pol Pot Victims From Killing Fields Plan Resorts by Angkor Wat". Bloomberg. Retrieved 2 July 2011.

under The Royal Group -->

I noticed you amended one but not the other, please help me understand this distinction because they're both online news reports

To be sure: shouldn't references to online news articles always read as in the above, second footnote, eg: *authors, bracketed date, title, publication, retrieval date*?

Thanks, again, for all your assistance :)

(Petersgoldpan (click to talk) (talk) 09:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC))

I was using templates to format the references. There is a list of them at WP:CT. It doesn't matter which order you put in the fields, the template will always format them in a specific order. I used {{cite news}} for both, so I'm not sure why they came out slightly different. For the purpose of the template, Reuters is not considered an author but a news agency, so it would go in the field |agency= rather than |author=. Apparently this makes a difference. ... discospinster talk 16:36, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks for that, I may just reference manually to ensure unanimity then (Petersgoldpan (talk) 16:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC))

Doctor Octoroc

Hey Disco,

Thank you for the warm welcome and for bringing the errors of my first article to my attention. I've made great progress with my article about Doctor Octoroc and I'm requesting that you take a second look as I've cited multiple reliable sources to support the claim of notability as per the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. Since the notability of Doctor Octoroc is strongly based in the video game community, I believe it is necessary to consider the sources noted as reliable in the chart on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources page as reliable sources that do in fact meet Wikipedia's standards for this article. Thanks for your time. Jazzlevi (talk) 08:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. Yes, it has been much improved by the addition of these reliable sources, you did a good job. I have recommended to keep the page in the deletion discussion. ... discospinster talk 04:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! Jazzlevi (talk) 04:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Leopard Capital

Hi Disco,

Amending Leopard Capital to better accommodate the neutrality requirement. Doing so I clicked Stueng Hav District and want to insert the 'Map of Cambodia highlighting Sihanoukville Province' from its Sihanoukville link. Tried but encountered difficulties: how I do this?

Cheers (Petersgoldpan (talk) 09:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC))

Hi. I'm not exactly sure what it is you want to do. Where are you trying to insert this image? In the Stueng Hav District article? ... discospinster talk 17:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Disco,

Yes I'm trying to insert the image into the Stueng Hav District entry.

Sockpuppet concern

Also User:Urbanrenewal accused me of being a "sockpuppet" (which I'm not?)...his complaint is filed here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Douglasclayton My response to him (listed also on User:Urbanrenewal's own page) is below for you to consider - can you please advise how I defend against his accusation? UR doesn't even submit evidence for why he's accused me of being a "sockpuppet" ? double you t f

Response to Urbanrenewal's accusation, start

Hi User:Urbanrenewal,

I joined the Private Equity Task-force to begin a similar history to yourself but concentrating on the ASEAN region and Cambodia in particular, given its increasing popularity and under appreciated status. Towards this end I made the Kith Meng and The Royal Group pages and sought to tidy up numerous others relating to the country's largest business groups, and in doing so I was lead to Leopard Capital, on which I then spent a considerable amount of time, tidying things up and imbuing a more neutral tone whilst removing dead links and/or links leading to the company's website, simultaneously verifying the claims of the entry (and, also removing claims that weren't verifiable). I thought, like helpful administrative User:Discospinster had done previously, I would if anything be thanked for my work? From the perspective of detailing commerce-centric Cambodian based networks, it's fairly practical to overview Cambodia's first and biggest private equity fund -- and no, I'm not connected to Leopard Capital: that is my point -- I'm sure you'd agree. That to claim otherwise (that is that it's not fair practice to overview Cambodia's first and biggest private equity fund, particularly given the country's small-sized population) would risk inhibiting the Wikipedia Project of Countering Systemic-Bias vis-a-vis the already lacklustre coverage of Cambodia's economy, and say be arguably comparable to not mentioning Wall Street when overviewing America's economy, seems reasonably obvious to your truly.

Indeed, Cambodia's business sector is already under-represented on Wikipedia, and I have recently listed it under the 'Expansion Needed' heading on the WikiProject Cambodia page.

Response to Urbanrenewal's accusation, finish

After my amendments, subtractions and additions the Leopard Capital listing (I think) is pretty neutral in tone? Can someone please clarify how this is not the case, citing examples of what they consider more neutral? Since being accused I've checked numerous other Wikipedia's for big private equity firms and, if anything, Leopard Capital seems more neutral and less self-interested than some of the bigger names in the private equity field covered by Wikipedia?

Disco, please advise how I better defend against User:Urbanrenewal's unfair accusation? He doesn't even mention what his accusation of me is based on? The only semi, potentially plausible suggestion I can think of for accusing me is that I made many numerous amendments: but I'm new and a perfectionist, and actually enjoy the editing process!? Hence my repeated efforts "to get it right" ... I aim to continue contributing to the Wikipedia community and aspire to become a moderator in the future: this, basically, is why I care to have taken off my account URs accusations

Cheers (Petersgoldpan (talk) 09:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC))

Well there's not much for me to go on since, as you say, there are no specifics about the accusation. I see that you left a message for User:Urbanrenewal, and User:Sphilbrick has also asked for clarification, so hopefully there will be some more information one way or the other. From a quick look at the original SP investigation I'm not seeing anything that would implicate you, so I don't think you have to worry too much. ... discospinster talk 14:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Completely new abortion proposal and mediation

In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles (pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.

The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.

To avoid accusations that this posting violates WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie (talk) 20:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for moving my "Clifford dobell" to "Clifford Dobell".

I'd noticed the bad capitalization, but didn't know how to fix it!

Tkbwik (talk) 23:00, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. ... discospinster talk 04:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)


I have been trying to write my first wikipedia article. I am writing it on a company focusing on healthcare IT. The government is spending $27B over four years to try to improve healthcare via better IT. There are few companies positioned to do next generation work, which is critical to making this investment worthwhile. Health Fidelity is the first company trying to address one of the largest problems in the space - use of unstructured data. The article focuses on the need for improved use of data in healthcare.

I spent a great deal of time properly referencing this article. Please help me to understand why it is being flagged for deletion. Thanks!

Alpharun (talk) 01:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

If you are referring to Health Fidelity, it's not currently flagged for deletion. The previous version was deleted because it did not indicate how the company is notable per WP:CORP. The current version has a lot of references, but few of them are actually about the company itself. You need to find and add reliable sources that directly talk about the company. ... discospinster talk 03:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

John J. Powers (actor, comedian)

Hi, I am trying to avoid deletion of this article. I have studied all the page guidelines, have worked really hard, and wondered if you could work with me on this. John J. Powers (actor, comedian) is very well-known and I have tried so hard to get this up there. I really appreciate your help. Jkinzler777 (talk) 17:59, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Jkinzler777

There's nothing in the article that indicates he is well-known. You need to add reliable sources that show he meets WP:BIO. On the article's talk page you bring up significant roles in TV or films, a large fan base, and unique contributions in entertainment, but there's no specifics as to what they are. ... discospinster talk 18:04, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Jkinzler777 (talk) 18:06, 9 July 2011 (UTC)ok thanks I'll see what I can do. How long do I get until it is deleted?

Seven days. An alternative is to move it to your article space (say, at User:Jkinzler777/John J. Powers (actor, comedian)) where you can work on it as a WP:DRAFT until it's ready to go back into article space. ... discospinster talk 18:09, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Jkinzler777 (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Ok go ahead and delete it I will work on it as a draft. Thanks for your comments!

I've moved it for you since I'm not sure if you're autoconfirmed yet. ... discospinster talk 18:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Jkinzler777Ok I spent a week implementing your changes. I pointed out his Emmy award and included many more references. I also toned down my feelings completely. Please let me publish it. It is in my user space

I don't think it's ready quite yet. The language comes across as unencyclopedic and promotional (e.g. His comedy is infectious -- you will find it nearly impossible to stop laughing!!). Some of the text is copied directly from the PRweb article, which is a violation of copyright. ... discospinster talk 14:38, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Jkinzler777 ok back to the drawing boardJkinzler777 (talk) 14:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)--Jkinzler777 (talk) 14:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC) Jkinzler777 (talk) 19:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)--Jkinzler777 (talk) 19:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)I implemented your suggestions then moved it over today at John J. Powers (Comedian) but again Mike is insisting on its deletion. I'm wondering if you have any advice on what I need to do to get it published? The first version is at my user page the greatly reduced version is in common. Thanks.

The promotional language is toned down, but I'm afraid that at the moment it doesn't meet the notability criteria for entertainers. The criteria page states:
The link from PRWeb is not independent, as it is a press release. Gig Masters and the New York Hysterical Society are also not independent since he works for them. The Comedy Point and Funny or Die links only demonstrate that he contributes to those sites, not that he meets one of the points on the list above. ... discospinster talk 16:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Prens Sabahaddin

Why unsourced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilek2 (talkcontribs) 21:55, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Because you did not supply a source? ... discospinster talk 21:58, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


- H. Bozarslan, "Le Prince Sabahaddin (1878-1948)," in RSH, 52, 2002, 287-301

Auteur (s): Hans-Lukas Kieser / EGO

And in the I-Net are enough articles about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilek2 (talkcontribs) 22:01, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

H.I.H. Princess Saniha Sultana. b. at the Topkapi Palace, Constantinople, 21st November 1852 (d/o Nalandil). Rcvd: the Nishan-i-Shafakat 1st class. m. at the Ortakoy Palace, Constantinople, 10th February 1877 (nikah, 5th December 1876) (div. December 1899), H.H. Damad Mahmud Jalal ud-din Pasha (b. 1854; d. at Brussells, 17th January 1903), Minister for Justice 1877-1878, son of Grand Admiral H.H. Damad Gurcu Muhammad Halil Rifat Pasha, sometime Supreme C-in-C. She d. at Nice, France, 15th September 1931 (bur. Selimiye Camii, Damascus), having had issue, two sons.

His Parent's married 10,2, he must born november or dezember 1877...but other resources said he is born in 1878. His Brother is born 1879. Dilek2 (talk) 18:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

List of books about ballroom dancing

Straight to AfD? We have various "List of books about..." articles, but they have lists of notable books (with WP articles). The same applies to List of partner dance books. Drmies (talk) 22:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I wasn't sure because the books were written by authors with WP articles, and the notability guidelines for lists tend to be somewhat more relaxed. But if a broader consensus would help, then I agree it should go to AfD. ... discospinster talk 23:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Whoa, I had a look at a bunch of articles in Category:Lists of books, and there's a lot there that in my opinion doesn't make the cut. IMO, a list, if it doesn't have a separate rationale (like Bram Stoker Award for Best Non-Fiction), should consist of notable items--just like lists of alumni, for instance. You're right, the authors have articles, but since it's not a list of authors, I'm going to propose this, maybe as a test case. I think WP:LIST agrees with me, but let's see what the rest of the world has to say. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 01:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of books about ballroom dancing. Drmies (talk) 01:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Great idea about merging my "Geraldine Jones" article w/ the "Flip Wilson Show" article, but how do I do that?

Tw1243 (talk) 03:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

The White Cross (Gaming Clan)

I'm new to wikipedia and didn't know the steps of how to put links in, say, the table of contents, or pictures. I'll put up the page again once I know how to do those steps. I hope once I do that you (well, nobody, for that matter) don't delete it. If there's ANY other reason you deleted this page, feel free to tell me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutty48 (talkcontribs) 00:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

To put in internal links (wikilinks), you put double square brackets around the word or phrase, like [[this]]. For external links (elsewhere on the internet), you surround it with single square brackets: [ Name of link]. Pictures must first be uploaded before they can be put in the article; to do this you follow the steps at WP:UPLOAD. Once it's uploaded, you put it in the article by using the [[File:]] prefix: [[File:Name_of_image.jpg]]. Tables of contents are created automatically when you have more than two headings.
The original article was deleted because it did not indicate how the clan is notable per Wikipedia's criteria. The general notability guidelines are at WP:N and the guidelines for groups are at WP:ORG. Basically, there must be significant coverage of the group in multiple reliable sources (e.g. newspaper, well-known gaming websites), or they have won a major gaming award. The article must also be written in a neutral tone, not intended to promote the group.
I would suggest that you work on the article in your name space; that way it's not likely to be deleted. For example, you could start an article draft at User:Nutty48/The White Cross (Gaming Clan), and ask other editors for their opinion at WP:FEEDBACK. I hope this helps. ... discospinster talk 01:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Although I went to Wikipedia: Upload and clicked "upload image," then I clicked Special: Upload and it said I either have to be an Administrator, an Autoconfirmed User or a Confirmed User, and that I was unauthorized, even though I was logged in. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutty48 (talkcontribs) 19:19, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

To become an autoconfirmed user (the minimum for uploading images) you have to have made at least 10 edits to articles. But I've gone ahead and made you a confirmed user, so you should be able to do it now. ... discospinster talk 19:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutty48 (talkcontribs) 20:43, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Photo Deletion Request


Can you delete this photo please


Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dollytheledge (talkcontribs) 17:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Dan. I can't delete the image myself, since it's in Wikimedia Commons and I don't have privileges there. Eventually someone that can delete it will come by and do so. I'll try nominating it again and we'll see if it makes any difference. ... discospinster talk 19:07, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
I think what happened was you (I assume it was you) placed the deletion tag on the page, but since you were editing as an IP and not logged in, you weren't able to create the deletion request page. The request was thus not technically complete. I've created the deletion request page so it should proceed normally from there. ... discospinster talk 19:11, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah I see, thanks very much. I see the photo was uploaded 4 years ago, and I happened to find it randomly and would rather it not be on Wikipedia any longer haha. Thanks very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dollytheledge (talkcontribs) 21:55, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi DS, when do you reckon it will actually be deleted? Cheers, Dan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dollytheledge (talkcontribs) 19:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
It should have been deleted by now. There might still be something wrong with the nomination, so I've reverted all that and started again. ... discospinster talk 14:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The reason for the delay was that the DR on Commons was thoroughly messed up -- it ended up as a Deletion Request of a Deletion Request.. . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to mecontribs) 15:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh I see. I knew something was dodgy but I don't have enough experience with Commons to figure it out. ... discospinster talk 02:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Geraldine Jones

To discospinster, I think it is a great idea to merge my Geraldine Jones article to the flip Wilson show article, but I don't know how to do that. Can you help me? Tw1243 (talk) 21:04, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. Since you are the only author of the Geraldine Jones page, you don't have to do anything fancy to merge it. Just copy the text from the article and paste it in an appropriate place in The Flip Wilson Show article with an edit summary like merging info from [[Geraldine Jones]]. Then replace the text of the Geraldine Jones article with #REDIRECT [[The Flip Wilson Show]], put in an edit summary like info merged; redirecting and save it. Let me know if you have any troubles with it. ... discospinster talk 22:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Administrator Barnstar Hires.png The Admin's Barnstar
For keeping me motivated; see the adminstats :))) Keep up the good work. Lectonar (talk) 09:17, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Republic of Kucana - List of Micronations

May I ask how I can make it more notable? --RichardOwen97 (talk) 20:39, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Preferably it would have its own article, but there should at least be a link to a reliable source discussing the micronation (like a newspaper article, but not the micronation's own web page). ... discospinster talk 21:59, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Lycée Louis-Barthou

Thanks for the move--I wasn't sure what the guidelines were and I was unwilling to stop watching TV for too long. Drmies (talk) 02:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure myself, but I saw that there are other articles on French schools similarly named (List of schools in France). ... discospinster talk 03:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


On the talk page and the accompanying edit summary you addressed the concern of the A7 by noting it didn't establish notability. Other new editors may see these things and assume that A7 is about lack of notability rather than lack of demonstrated significance. Kindly Calmer Waters 04:33, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Since WP:CSD#A7 does not define "important" or "significant" it is difficult for me to respond to an editor who asks me what it means, since I don't know (other than "lower standard than notability"). Until I can get an idea of what it's referring to I might as well use the term "notability" for articles that are certain to be deleted, since it's the only term that is given any explanation. ... discospinster talk 13:16, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
I completely understand what you are saying. I only brought it up because of how active you are at C:CSD and how new NPPs may emulate how those more experienced editors interpret the speedy deletion process. We all know that any mention of A7 and notability equals the bloody death at RFA for any potential admin candidate, even if the word is only mistakenly placed. I have absolutely no qualms with how you go about deleting those warranted and declining those not, your judgment being sound. My only concern was with how other might interpret it, New NPPs and those learning the process in particular. Anyhow, Sorry to trouble you and have a good day. Calmer Waters 19:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
It's no trouble; I'm glad you brought it up because I do think there needs to be some kind of guideline as to what "important or significant" means. It's very vague, so I don't think that helps potential editors either. I didn't realize it was such an issue for admin candidates. I probably should spend some time at RFA. :-) ... discospinster talk 19:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Agree that is is overly vague and may be too open to interpretation for those starting. deletion / inclusion Wonkery :) I think that is why many may look at how other more experienced users and especially ones with advanced permissions are handling similar situations. I know I did in the beginning and still do on occasion when handling board-line cases. Yeah, mixing the two up have tipped the boat over on more than a few RfAs. Suppose that's in part due to many that !vote on only what transpires during that seven days, rather than judging on the body of work they have done. I usually stay away unless I have interacted with the editor. Calmer Waters 21:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Shady Acres

I am not real savvy at editing and challenging these posts, and I'm not out to wreck pages for no reason. But the page in question, contains almost no reliable facts, except of course that Woodrow Wilson was president in 1915 and the dates of the wars. These articles appear every so often, and are generally centered around Walter and Connie Edge, in an attempt to make a marketable story, as they have been linked to Phony Bible Schools and Fictitious Television programs. I did some research already, and added some of what I found to the discussion page. And think that the entire page should be challenged and probably deleted as there is no evidence whatsoever outside of this page that anything included herein is factual. There is a much bigger scam going on here, in my opinion, and it would be interesting to find out what it is, but that is for another day. Thank you for your time and any help that you may be able to provide. (Carnieguy (talk) 14:19, 18 July 2011 (UTC))

Since it's a contentious issue, I don't want to summarily delete the article. However, since I can't find any verification either, I've proposed that it be deleted. ... discospinster talk 15:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Mary Sattler

Thanks for catching that right away. Two things, though:

  • The additions/corrections I made to the article were deleted in the page move, and
  • The redirect "Mary Sattle Kapsner" appears to be a typo someone made in the process of creating the redirect "Mary Sattler Kapsner." Would a speedy delete work there?

Thanks in advance.RadioKAOS (talk) 05:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about overwriting the changes you had made. I had to move the history over but I figured you would go back and make the corrections again. :-) As for the typo redirect, I have deleted it as an unlikely redirect. Thanks for letting me know. ... discospinster talk 12:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Nancy Baron

It appears to me that my plausible article which is verifiable and concerns a part of musical history of the United States and of note here in America is considered refuse by international abusers. As the singer of this form of music in my teens, it was a great phenomenon and affected the future evolution of Rock music internationally. Although I left the music industry after a few years finding it very difficult to navigate, there has been a great revival of my genre which includes my recordings. I am well known on the internet and my music is appreciated by the present generation of youth internationally. One only has to keyword my name and the names of my records to see how well known they have become. Because of their age and the decades(five) which have passed many people in the business who wrote articles about me in long lost publications and T.V. shows that haven't existed for 30 years and who are deceased should not mean that I am not of note. A sister act copied one of my songs recently(The Secret Sisters "I've got a feeling"). They have mentioned me myriads of times as to where they found the song(Youtube). There are ringtones with me singing the song being sold on the internet as well as My recordings being sold in a collection Paying tribute to the singers of the now defunct Diamond label, other sellers of my recordings are "Roots and Rhythm" and companies in the U.K and many smaller companies in the U.S. and Denmark. If my songs are good enough to sell, make videos for youtube and copied by younger singers who are selling them then why am I not of "note","implausable", and other ludicrous commentaries made on my pages?How is it that this form of music is to be treated like garbage by this implausable "free encyclopedia"? An "editor" from Texas who could barely write English intimated that there was great suspiciousness regarding my little article. I now consider Wikipedia a forum of attackers of international riff raff.My original vinyls are much sought after by collectors who pay up to $40 for one 45rpm. I've been sickened by all the psychological vultures and nit pickers here!I was actually accused of copying the article because "I know too much about the subject"! What was that form of dementia?

Demeaned and abused,

GirlsoundsGirlsounds (talk) 16:39, 27 July 2011 (UTC)(here are your tildas!

While all of the above might be true, there needs to be more reliable sources in the article verifying it. I did a search for "Girlsounds" and I couldn't really find anything that discussed it as a musical style. As for the references in the article, two of them just indicate that the records exist, and the other one is unclear (is it a book?). The maintenance tags are there so that other editors will notice and maybe have a go at adding references and cleaning up the article. I'm sorry that you feel "demeaned and abused" but this is very much the process that new articles go through, as they are always "under construction". ... discospinster talk 17:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Wong Yan Ho

I don't intend to pursue this since I'm aware of the relevant policies, but I just wanted to note that the article Wong Yan Ho was not a hoax. I'm afraid I only have my own personal experience to testify to this, but I think the relevant information should be available online (I'm led to believe the article was created by his coach). I'm not sure the article fell under the speedy deletion criteria, I think the relevant policy would have been WP:NOTABLE. Only raising this as I'm a friend of his and occasionally contribute to Wikipedia, and he was complaining about it -- like I said, not making a big deal, I just wanted it raised. The article should be open to being re-created when adequate sources are available, at any rate. -- (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

If he did play for Chelsea, then there would be some argument for notability. But there is nothing that verifies it. People often try to create articles that are untrue (many times relating to football; I have deleted more than a few of those), and one way to check is to search for references. If none can be found then it will likely be labelled a hoax. I will restore it and change the deletion reason. ... discospinster talk 01:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: CoC authentication

Sorry, I got the gist only when I removed the tag :S The article still qualifies for CSD, though. Happy editing, Rymatz (talk) 17:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

You need to be more cynical. :) ... discospinster talk 17:59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

re:wrong word for Tsifteteli

I dont think that doesnt matter what happend,especially with edits, Tsifeteli with this style character confuses the world whose trying in search for it, it must be have a correct character. If it goes redirect through in correct tsifteteli dance then the problem is being solved --Heteres (talk) 21:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

The history of the article does matter because it shows who has edited it. If an article is the wrong name, or another name would be better, it could be moved to the new name, which moves all of the history with it. It is not correct procedure to redirect an existing article just because the name has to change. ... discospinster talk 21:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you

I hope you enjoy this cookie as a friendly greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, SwisterTwister talk 02:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Ana Puig

I have added an "Ana Puig Bio" page with Ana Puig's permission. Please email me at to let me know how I can keep this page. Thank you. I am also the admin on the website which contains parts of this biography.

Longlinay (talk) 02:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)M DouglasLonglinay (talk) 02:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Douglas. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions on how to allow the material to be used on Wikipedia (via the terms of the CC-BY-SA and GFDL). Basically you would need to grant Wikipedia permission the text under the CC-BY-SA license, which means that anyone else would be able to use it as long as they attribute Wikipedia and offer it under the same license. Often it's better to re-write the content in your own words, so that the tone is more neutral and less promotional. ... discospinster talk 03:48, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Solid Computer Decisions

Hi: You stated that the Solid Computer Decisions page should be deleted because it was an advertisement for stories. I'm trying to create a page to document Sally Mae's funding change and how it affected companies and students nation wide. Computer training companies closed due to Sally Mae's funding change and thousand of students were affected.

What I'm going to do is remove the two paragraphs requesting input from companies and student affected by Sally Mae.

What else do I need to do to make this Wiki acceptable? (talk) 21:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)Lani Wingate67.197.109.237 (talk) 21:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. First of all there is an issue with the article name -- if it's about the Sallie Mae funding change, why should the article be named after one of the schools affected? It also needs to be written in a more neutral tone, just stating facts and not coming down on one side or the other. There's not really a need to list the individual schools that closed. Also, sources should also be reliable, like newspaper articles, and not blogs or discussion forums. For example, the Tech Republic and The Chronicle of Higher Education articles would be reliable sources, but the sallie-mae-warning.blogspot site and "Sallie Mae - My Story" would not be. ... discospinster talk 22:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


User:Girlsounds responded to you on their Talk page. It's ... interesting reading. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not really sure what I've got myself into. ... discospinster talk 23:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to be confusing-It was meant to be a general comment but was directed to you as a representative of Wikipedia. I have provided 15 references and have not gotten any feedback as to their reliability. As I mentioned in my post, most of the internet information are websites trying to make money off my(and others) of my era. I found some more reliable references about the era that supports notability(they really should) The article is very small compared with the references. I think you know how frustrating this is. I hesitate to communicate with a user who can use a name such as "Mark of the Beast"(it's very off-putting). I'm still learning how to use this website and although there are very nice users, I had the misfortune to be attacked by some bizzaro's. I would like to either have the article approved for further work(probably) or get that hideous nomination to delete removed. I wonder if that is possible at this point? I've said previously that there are truly inane articles in Wikipedia. I also have the sense that it is a bit nepotistic and biased against pop culture which negates an important social segment. I volunteered to work on wiki's music project but due to my experiences I am rethinking this. Thank you for your patience.Girlsounds (talk) 23:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I've given her on her talk p. the best advice I can. It is possible there is one or more articles there, but it would take someone more knowledgable than myself in the subject area to untangle them. DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VisualMILL

I have nominated an article that you prodded in November 2010 for AfD. There is one good review, but the other two sources are press releases. Joe Chill (talk) 18:16, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Project West


I recently posted an article regarding "Project West" and it was subsequently deleted. I would like to resurrect this posting with some help from some other interested people and that meets Wikipedia's standards.

I can't seem to find the history of the discussion or original ariticle which contained useful information that I would like to re-use as a starting point. Can you help me?

Thank in advance. Brian Bodge

Hi Brian. The article was deleted per a discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Project West. The reason given seemed to be that it was original research. I was not involved in the deletion (or any of the prior ones), so I don't really have the background on it. Your best course of action would be to contact the administrator who deleted it (User:Kurykh), or place a request on Requests for Undeletion, pointing out that only two people participated in the original deletion discussion. Hope this helps. ... discospinster talk 01:34, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Thank you for your help, I really appreciate it. Sean (Ask Me?) 01:26, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
My pleasure. ... discospinster talk 01:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Photo Deletion Request

Hi again, just found another image I'd like deleted if possible, though not sure how to go about it so it's probably best if you did it! Many thanks, Dan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dollytheledge (talkcontribs) 20:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Since that one was hosted in Wikipedia and not the Commons, I was able to just delete it myself. ... discospinster talk 20:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

List of young adult authors

You removed a lot of well-known authors, including award winners, apparently because they didn't have their own article yet. Is this the best criteria for deletion? Czolgolz (talk) 22:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

The entries that I deleted didn't include any mention of significance. If some of them had won awards, then that information should be included in the entry, at least to distinguish them. Otherwise the article could turn into a list of every young adult author ever, violating WP:NOTDIR. ... discospinster talk 02:59, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
True, but none of the authors still on the list have their resume listed in this article.Czolgolz (talk) 03:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
The ones left have Wikipedia articles of their own, so presumably they are notable. ... discospinster talk 22:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

You should come hang out with us on the internetz!

Hi! I wanted to let you know that we have created an IRC channel for "countering systemic bias one new editor at a time", aka closing the gender gap! Come hang out at #wikimedia-gendergap if that subject interests you. We hope this channel can serve as a safe haven to hang out, talk about Wiki, brainstorming, increasing women's participation in Wikimedia, article alerts and foster friendships. I hope you join us! (And if you need any IRC help, just let me know!) See you there! SarahStierch (talk) 22:33, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

WP: Author

This page is a WP: Author work in progress... it barely represents Tim Zeigdel, an established author of Ten Books housed in some of the most reputable places on earth like "+Rote+Writer,+1963-"&dt="+Rote+Writer,+1963-"&spi=-&rt=1&bill=1 Library and Archives Canada and Library of Congress along with Yale University Library, Killam Library and The Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library "The Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library is located at the University of Toronto, and is the largest publicly accessible collection of rare books and manuscripts in Canada. It contains Darwin’s proof copy of On the Origin of the Species among other notable works including The depth to delve... deep by Tim Zeigdel."

I have a book in the Local History and Archives department of the Hamilton Public Library, but that doesn't make it or me notable. ... discospinster talk 01:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC) PROVE IT

As a self decribed spinster and feminist you must have an undeniable hatred for men who achieve; especially authors. You're vying for service awards by collecting editing points so that you will be awarded an editor's medal by making this personal with envy or jealousy by equating your book in a local library vs. Tim Zeigdel's ten books in a national and international library along with books in world renowned and respected uinversity libraries.

My book is also catalogued in WorldCat and held at a university. Libraries have lots of books, that's what they're for. However, it's still not enough for a Wikipedia article. Also, please stop removing the AfD tag. If you would like to express your opinion that the article should be kept, you should do so at the discussion page, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Zeigdel. ... discospinster talk 03:34, 1 September 2011 (UTC) PROVE IT
I don't have to prove anything, since I'm not trying to write an article about myself. ... discospinster talk 14:56, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

You're just sad... with no worth you seek to destroy the worth of others while imagining you're championing a cause. You've been caught and all your caustic contributions are about to be reviewed with the same vigour you so venomously vent.

OK then, just stop removing the AfD tag or I will block you. ... discospinster talk 03:55, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Crowe & Dunlevy

Hi! I originally created a wiki page for Crowe & Dunlevy, which is a law firm based in Oklahoma that has been representing clients for more than 100 years. I saw you deleted it, and I'd like to know what I can do to improve the entry and re-post it so that it isn't deleted this time. I have seen wikis for competing law firms in our state with similar years experience or less that have not been deleted and would like to know how I can accomplish that this time.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gail.huneryager11 (talkcontribs) 16:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. I had deleted it because it was blanked by the original creator (i.e. all the text was removed). Since we don't want blank articles hanging around, we usually delete them at that point.
The article, before it was blanked, had been tagged as promotional. It was written in a way that seemed to advertise the firm rather than describe it neutrally. For example, "Crowe & Dunlevy's dynamic legal team effectively and efficiently represents local, national and global clients." and "Crowe & Dunlevy is committed to diversity as a core value and strives to be a model of diversity that others will follow.", etc. This type of language is more appropriate for the firm's web page than an encyclopedia article.
In order to write a good Wikipedia article, you have to indicate how the firm is notable. This shouldn't be too difficult for a firm that is a century old. Add some references from newspapers, magazines, trade journals, etc., that talk about the firm. Include any awards that attorneys have won, etc. But write it in a way that does not include "peacock terms" that don't really mean anything (like "committed to" and things like that).
A good idea is to start the article in your user space so that it won't be deleted. You can use the page User:Gail.huneryager11/Crowe & Dunlevy and then move it into the main space when it's ready. Some good pages to look at are So You Made a Userspace Draft and Drawing Board. You can also leave a message on my talk page if you have questions. Cheers, ... discospinster talk 16:27, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Chris Dave

How comes this page was deleted? He's a pretty well known drummer in the jazz world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:11, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

The article didn't indicate how he was notable or even significant, it was just two sentences long. It's been three years since it was deleted, so I'm sure there are probably more reliable sources now to show how he's notable. The article can be re-created at any time. ... discospinster talk 21:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


Please, I Going to make it again but its going to have more stuff on it and i were going to edit it later its just i want to make the page - Surfer01 - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surfer01 (talkcontribs) 07:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

You don't need my permission. ... discospinster talk 19:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Article in need of creation and interpretation.

I thought this is a spectacularly good article. Totally outside of my expertise, and I don't speak German. Do you have any suggestions as to whom I could recruit? Rabbits in the arts, German Wikipedia Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 15:56, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I can't think of anyone off the top of my head, and there's no particular way that I know of to search for users who are interested in the arts and speak German. Your best bet would be to post on the talk page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arts to see if there's anyone there who would be willing to take it on. I agree that it's a good article to have in English, to expand on Rabbit#In culture and literature and List of fictional hares and rabbits. ... discospinster talk 18:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Take a look at Three hares, which I have worked on and which is about as close as we get. 7&6=thirteen () 18:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Cry (Just a Little)

Hello Discospinster. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Cry (Just a Little) to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 00:39, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Ungetc

Hey thanx for reverting the speedy deletion tag. I will try and improve the formatting as far as possible. Please suggest any useful suggestion . Cheers.!! Kmsarda (talk) 08:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

It just needs an explanatory introduction, so that regular people such as myself will know the context. I assume it's something programming-related, but that's as far as I can get. Similarly, putting the article into categories will help show what it's about. There should also be some references to third-party sources. ... discospinster talk 20:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the suggestion, sir..!!! You can have a look around the page and i'm sure that you are gonna see the improvements..!!Kmsarda (talk) 20:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Occupy Portland

Yikes! Deleted so quickly.

There's going to be a lot of content there soon, and it will certainly be notable. I'm just trying to get a page set up where edits can then be added relatively easily.

If you give me a bit of time, I can add categories, references, etc.

Racer51970 (talk) 03:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't delete it, I moved it to your user page at User:Racer51970/Occupy Portland. Once there are reliable sources that testify to the movement's notability, it can be moved back to the main space. ... discospinster talk 03:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Whew! I get it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Racer51970 (talkcontribs) 03:11, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Homer Langrill

Just a note, the creator of the article has removed the prod. Buggie111 (talk) 03:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. ... discospinster talk 04:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Robin Michael Smith

I gave this article another shot after finding a few more articles and removing claims that are documented in the book but not online. I'm hoping that you will consider the article because I would like to be the original creator of the page and I know that the story is going to blow up once the book is released in November. Thanks for your consideration. Psherburne (talk) 20:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Request Regarding Signature

I'm not 100% sure if I'm writing this in the right place, so I apologize if not. I like how your signature is in two different colors and would like to know how I could make mine two colored too. Thanks :) OckRaz (talk) 07:44, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I can answer your question. In your Preferences section (User Profile -- Signature) there will be a field to put in the code for a fancy-looking signature. You can use wiki markup and html code to alter the appearance. I used <font> change the colour. Here's the full code of my signature, feel free to alter it for your own: <font color="DarkGray">...</font> [[User:discospinster|<font color="DarkOrange">'''disco'''</font><font color="DarkOliveGreen">'''''spinster'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:discospinster|'''<font color="DarkGray">talk</font>''']]</sub>. You also have to check off the box that says "Treat the above as wiki markup". You can get more information and ideas at Wikipedia:Smurrayinchester's signature tutorial. ... discospinster talk 14:58, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :) OckRaz talk 04:11, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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Michelle McDowell

Hi, apparently you deleted a page on Michelle McDowell in April. Could you give some info as to who that Michelle McDowell was, as I am preparing a page for someone of that name, and would like to ensure it is not the same person. Thanks. --Gmfox (talk) 09:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Signature Question & User Page Image Files

Thanks again for the help with customizing my signature. I like it much more this way since the 'Ock' and 'Raz' represent two different words and this emphasizes that more :) I expect that this is a really basic/newbie question, but I've noticed that some signatures have just 'talk' at the end while others have 'contrib' after a vertical line (whose proper name I don't know) as well. I assume that the latter is unnecessary since your doesn't have it. (?) How does one access that info for users like you and I who don't have it in our signature. (I'm sure the answer will be something blindingly obvious that I've overlooked.) Also, could you tell me if there are any rules regarding the adding of images to one's user page? Should the image file be hosted externally (and if so, does it matter where) or if not, where/how does one save the image on ?

Thanks again for your help and friendliness :) I initially tried making edits and whatnot four years ago, but made novice mistakes and got dragged into a dispute when I didn't understand how to use the rules to defend my side of things. As a consequence, I pretty much quit editing for three years. If there isn't one, perhaps there should be an optional 'mentor program' or even just a "Novice Friendly" sign to put on people's user pages when they don't mind answering questions from and conversing with novices. :) OckRaz talk 00:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I found out how to access contributions. There is a little triangle next to Toolbox that I needed to point downward rather than to the right. (I knew it would turn out be something obvious.) OckRaz talk 00:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


List is incomplete. Chart is the best option — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:49, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what you are referring to. ... discospinster talk 04:45, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined

I have declined the your requested speedy deletion of Maggie De Vries under WP:CSD#G12. Instead, I just took out all of the copied text and left a 2 line stub, along with her works and awards. The article may still be deletable via AfD on notability grounds; the key would be find out if those awards she got/was nominated for were notable, or if there were reviews of her work in any independent sources. Feel free to AfD if a WP:BEFORE check doesn't show any relevant sources. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:19, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


Why did you remove the link to Prince William of Wales in this edit? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 23:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I guess there was an edit conflict when I saved the version I was working on. Sorry about that, I'll put it back. ... discospinster talk 23:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Round the Bend (2012) deletion

Hello, I left a note yesterday and didn't get any reply regarding the deletion of the page for my upcoming sitcom (webseries/ pilot for tv) Round the Bend (2012). What do I need to provide to prove that I am the creator/ head writer and owner of the rights for my show? The show is in pre-production at the moment. This is my first time using Wikipedia as a contributor and I (obviously) made a mistake. Facebook page: Twitter page:!/RoundtheBend12 I also own the domain name for (nothing is published since it's still in pre production) Also, I can provide a registration from WGA for my show. We just started building all those pages and again, I would love to know how to fix the problem(s) to keep the wiki page going. Thank you in advance, Sagi --Sagibarzilay (talk) 17:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Note: I came on this while deleting the article talk page which had some questions on it. I have done my best to explain COI, N, NF etc on his talk page. Regards JohnCD (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Elisa Victoria

I was about to prod the article when I saw you already did it earlier. I wrote up an AfD for it. Bgwhite (talk) 06:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. ... discospinster talk 03:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


Hi Discospinster,

Sorry i am quite new in Wikipedia, so still learning how to use and what to take note Thank you very much for your help.. can I approach you if I have question in future? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funtraveller (talkcontribs) 02:00, 16 November 2011 (UTC)