User talk:Discospinster/Archive29

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My Mad Fat Diary

Good Evening, can you please revert all the edits by on the My Mad Fat Diary article please? I have reverted the last two and given the ip editor a vandal welcoming message already but you can add to these if you wish.

Thanks. Gavbadger (talk) 21:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

It's ok now, another user took care of it. Gavbadger (talk) 22:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
That's what I figured when I went there. :-) ... discospinster talk 00:44, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for fixing that (Quecksilber. I meant to have it in Italics but I didn't know how to fix it. Thanks again and stop on my my place. --Andy Howard (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Editors Barnstar Hires.png The Editor's Barnstar
thanks for fixing up Quecksilber Andy Howard (talk) 03:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, no problem at all. ... discospinster talk 17:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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War in Afghanistan (2001–present)

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Can you please keep an eye on user Nickfelds please as far i can tell he has breached 3RR today but without using the undo tool, he just used edit instead and has not been blocked also i cannot revert last addition or i will breach 3RR on the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) article.

I have recently left a note on his talk page regarding what references he has to make the change but have recieved no reply, by looking at his contrib's he only edits that one page with the same edit and mostly edits late at night/very early mornings with no edit summaries.

Thanks. Gavbadger (talk) 14:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Not sure why you think that a novelist with three crime novels listed on Amazon, Waterstone's, and websites worldwide should be excluded on grounds of notability! The author has created a character who was worthy of publication and the author happens to be author of a bestselling legal handbook going into it's third edition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zumdorf (talkcontribs) 16:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

If you believe that an author is notable enough to be listed, then it's up to you to provide evidence of that. Merely adding a name to a list doesn't tell us anything. Being featured on a bookselling website does not mean that the author is notable, it just means that s/he has a book for sale. If the legal handbook is a best seller then there should be some sources showing that (and not just press releases or the author's autobiography). On what list is the book best selling? ... discospinster talk 17:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, There are a huge number of female detective characters in this Wikipedia list which are also recently published and yet have authors who are unknown in any other field, so how do you decide to include them and not others? Celia Conrad is rather prominent on the web if you look, with many photographs of her, about her legal publications and submissions to Parliament etc. Legal handbooks certainly may be judged bestsellers when in the third edition, which you can see by looking the book up, and these sorts of books are not like 'popular fiction' and so don't appear in lists. Nobody would publish a handbook in updated enlarged editions if the book had not sold well the first and second times!

All of the other entries in the list are written by an author that already has a Wikipedia article. One's presence on the Web doesn't determine notability either; the criteria are that the subject has been significantly discussed in multiple reliable sources, or, in the case of an author, the criteria can be found at WP:AUTHOR (it basically has to do with significance in the field, wide influence, etc. -- in other words, being considered to be notable by others). As for the legal handbook, if it doesn't appear on any lists of best sellers, how can it be claimed to be best selling? Note also that "writing a best selling book", by itself, is not sufficient to meet the notability criteria. ... discospinster talk 02:01, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I find that your reasons that they be significantly discussed in other media quite irrational in an encyclopaedia, as either someone is a female fictional detective or they are not, and not every character listed here is attached to those that have a Wikipedia article already. We do not live in an entirely media-commentated world, and because a character was in a TV series should not mean it worthy of inclusion either. I would therefore delete the following which you seem to think worthy of inclusion:

  • Samantha Adams is an investigative reporter in Atlanta debuted 1988 in a book series by Sarah Shankman, first two books published under pseudonym 'Alice Storey'. BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED
  • Finny Aletter is a stockbroker in two books 1987 and 1990 by Yvonne Montgomery.BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED
  • Kate Banning is a former journalist, now editor, in Nashville, in three country music-themed mysteries 1997-1999 by Cecilia Tishy.BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED
  • Charlotte Bronte, the author, sleuths in a series by Laura Joh Rowland, commenced 2008.BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED and I don't think a famous author referenced by a hardly known writer counts either.
  • Clarice Dyke is an early female detective, created in 1888 as the wife of an existing detective character, by 'Harry Rookwood'.BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED
  • Ruth Traill is the first female detective in English fiction, in a penny-dreadful of 1862, by Edward Ellis.BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED

Where are these author's entries not linked on the Wikipedia? I think your deletion criteria is on these grounds unjustified, and the entries, to be truly encyclopaedic, should therefore include characters who have appeared in all fictional works no matter how 'notable' an editor here thinks them, which makes it highly personal and hardly notable 'by others'.

(talk page stalker)

Zumdorf, first off please stop SHOUTING. It's generally considered rude. Second, Discospinster is not responsible for Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals, it is a community product. If you think it needs changes, the place to discuss those changes is the related talkpage, Wikipedia talk:Notability (people), not here. If you disagree with its application in specific cases such as you list above that should be discussed either on the respective talkpages or on Wikipedia:Notability/Noticeboard. LeadSongDog come howl! 14:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Discospinster, Nobody is shouting, and I am not a talk page stalker! I am emphasizing the inconsistency YOU are displaying in this notability policy - or should one say 'policing'. If there is any point to Wikipedia it is that ordinary mortals can increase the sum of human knowledge, and I am pointing out that there are at least 6 entries here that by the criteria of notability you seem to apply ought not to be there...and if you allow those, then why not others which should be included, on the evidence supplied amply online. I simply added a really good fictional female detective in a published trilogy that readers of the Wikipedia looking up crime fiction ought to know about; it does not seem right that the principles of the Wikipedia should be applied to what you alone think is suitable and notable. I note you are not in the UK, but in Canada, so you perhaps have not been in a public library here in the UK and browsed shelves of crime fiction and found any fresh fictional female detectives recently. The UK fiction market is somewhat different from that in Canada or the USA. I don't have a problem with Wikipedia's notability policy per se, but with the fact that you seem to think you alone have the right to decide against what other users think should be included but are inconsistent.

I didn't say you were a talk page stalker, that template is used for self-identification, as I (LeadSongDog) did. The excessive use of allcaps and excessive bolding, such as your "BY YOUR CRITERIA, SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED" and your "DON'T DELETE ADDITIONS BEFORE CHECKING YOUR FACTS ELSEWHERE", is indeed considered to be wp:SHOUTing. Perhaps a more general review of the wp:Talk page guidelines is in order. Deletion of other's postings (except on your own user talk page) is definitely not on. LeadSongDog come howl! 17:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
As for the other entries listed, you (User:Zumdorf) are free to remove them based on the same criteria. It's possible that I missed them during my first review of the article. ... discospinster talk 17:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

You have not answered my point above but keep on stressing wikipedia talk page 'rules'. Deal with the question of your inconsistency, please, as to why my entry must be removed and the six I listed that are irrelevant by your inconsistent criteria must remain. This is unacceptable from any contributor, let alone someone clearly keen only to allow their knowledge to be displayed.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zumdorf (talkcontribs) 17:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I see you have actually deleted the six just now, as well as Alicia Allen - which is a shame as, if you are an administrator, surely you should be telling this user you are researching all of them and creating pages to increase knowledge. Heigh ho, I shall watch to see what addition you do allow according to your criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zumdorf (talkcontribs) 18:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I am not going to read all of this, but I do notice spelling errors, and in the first paragraph, above, in the phrase, "going into its third edition," the possessive adjective "its" is spelled wrong. It should be "its", without an apostrophe, not "it's", as if it were a contraction of two words.CorinneSD (talk) 19:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment

Hey Discospinster; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:35, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

American Black Bear

You are absolutely 100 percent mistaken that I did the negative editing you are accusing me of. So, you will have to do more checking to find out who the person is who really did that, because it was NOT me! I don't even know how you could accuse me of this, because my Wikipedia moniker doesn't even show up on the last 500 edits for the "American Black Bear" History? Have a better day. Canihaveacookie (Talk), March 14, 2013, 10:32 (UTC-5)

I'm sorry but I can't find where I said that you edited that article. ... discospinster talk 16:32, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

That right! I didn't edit the article to include that slur you'd left me a message about and accused me of writing. Canihaveacookie Canihaveacookie, March 14, 2013 (UTC-5)

Where did I leave you a message? Can you link to it? According to your talk page history I have never left you a message. ... discospinster talk 16:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry; but, while I opened the message from you ("Last Edit" message) and saw the link that showed me the slur on the "American Black Bear" page, the message from you wasn't on my user page, or my talk page, when I went to reread it. I don't know what happened to it, and did not delete it. I have no access to it, because I can't locate it now. Canihaveacookie (Talk) March 14, 2013, 12:45 (UTC-5)

The message about the "American Black Bear" page first and only appeared on the "Welcome to Wikipedia" page. I haven't found it after seeing it that one time. Canihaveacookie (Talk) March 14, 2013, 3:19 (UTC-5)

Royal Wiki Force


Can you revert [1] please and keep an eye on User talk:Royal Wiki Force please, I have already given the user two warnings already. Thanks Gavbadger (talk) 22:33, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

It seems to have been taken care of. ... discospinster talk 22:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Astonish Design

This page should not be speedily deleted because...

CSD G11: "the mere fact that a company, organization, or product is an article's subject does not, on its own, qualify that article for deletion under this criterion."

I'd like to also disagree that the article is not sufficiently encyclopedic or that in it current form, it is only promotional. The page has four sentences, all four based on statements of fact, not of opinion. That said, I'm hoping to work with you to edit this article so that we can both agree that the article meets all standards of criteria.

CSD A7: Does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on this point, and will be looking forward to working with you to better explain and illustrate the significance. This is one of the reasons I added the "stub" tag. The problem with "speedy deletion" is speed - I believe that given some time and effort, this article could meet all of Wikipedia's standards and practices.

I will work on editing the article at this time.

- Brian Boyko (talk) 19:05, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

OK, but I'm not sure how I'm involved in this. ... discospinster talk 20:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Kitten in a helmet.jpg

Thank you for updating the Adestria chapters album and changing it on the pages it's tagged in! :)

Dylarooo (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, my pleasure! ... discospinster talk 19:40, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

The Pagan Coalition

so your telling me that the pagan coalition is not worthy of notice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Pagan Coalition (talkcontribs) 19:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I explained to you — twice — what "notability" means. And I provided a link to a page that explains it even further: WP:Notability. Please have a look at that and I will help if you have any questions about it. ... discospinster talk 19:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Breakfast

Hello, Discospinster.

You are invited to join WikiProject Breakfast, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of breakfast-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Essay-like doesn't mean what it sounds like

Just a quick note to say that {{Essay-like}} is for personal opinion pieces, not school papers. The template's doc page explains things. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:02, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the heads-up. ... discospinster talk 01:27, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
No problem. It's just one of the many odd quirks of Wikipedia that will eventually drive us all batty. Happy editing, WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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notability|Events|date=April 2013

Hello, it is on Bread and Butter tradeshow. I added some pieces from an article from and another one from the N. Y. Times ( to "Talk". I hope this can say something about “the notability of this event”.

Please help improve the article. My English is not sufficient, I think. I couldn't even decide how to say this: The name BREAD & BUTTER is a reference(allusion) to the term Butterbrot.

Thanks, --Schwab7000 (talk) 17:34, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

The Butterbrot sentence is well constructed in English. The links you supplied on the talk page should be in the article itself, and that will probably be enough to establish notability. ... discospinster talk 19:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

US Pacific Railroads

Thanks for changing the article name of Pacific Imperial Railroad by removing "Inc.". There's another article called Pacific Harbor Line that has "Inc.", and can you see if you revise that article's name? Ctempire (talk) 16:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. ... discospinster talk 18:35, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Deleted page with similar name

Hi, I'm just asking as you seem to have deleted the page "GEFS Online". I'm just checking if it'd be alright to recreate the page with a redirect to the following page: GEFS-Online. Note that I was not the creator of either article, just interested in the topic mentioned and wanting to improve the page. Thanks!

Qantas 94 Heavy 12:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure that would be OK. ... discospinster talk 14:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


I removed the confirmed permission since this user is autoconfirmed. I think you meant to give reviewer, is that correct? I went ahead and gave that but please undo if I am incorrect. ~ Amory (utc) 05:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

At the time, all of his/her edits to Deaths in 2013 required review, so it seemed as if s/he was not autoconfirmed. I don't know if that was some glitch in the system, but I changed the permission to confirmed so that wouldn't happen anymore. If it's unnecessary now then I don't mind if it's changed back. ... discospinster talk 15:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Can'tCopeWon'tCope

Can'tCopeWon'tCope (talk · contribs) was a sock, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Paul Bedson/Archive. For background, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paul Bedson and [2]. He has stated that he will continue to create sock puppets unless he is unblocked. Dougweller (talk) 16:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

D'oh! ... discospinster talk 16:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Against Nature (Obverse Books)

You appear to have marked this for deletion on the 22nd April and it has completely disappeared, without discussion, by 25 April and is now a purposeless redirect? Exactly why? And how can I argue this? This book has been out for a little over a fortnight and has not yet been reviewed by any o fth emajor outlets who usually take a month or two to review small press releases - a little time before over-eager editors jump in with their magic deletion tool would be a good idea - the rush with which some editors delete is one of the reasons Wikipedia is often a less than useful resource. StuartDouglas (talk) 15:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

If the subject of the article has not yet been written about, it's not notable by Wikipedia's criteria. Once there are sources significantly discussing the book, then it would be appropriate to have an article. ... discospinster talk 18:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Artice Writing Problem

Dear Admin When I Am Writing About A Famous Person In wikipedia. Wikipedia Is Not Accepting My Article its saying i am writing about my self Or My Biography but its not true i am not writing about my self i am writing about another famous person whose significance is important and genuine to be included in wikipedia my article page is please verify that page and respond to me writing about a genuine person whose significance is important is the policy of wikipedia and only that i am doing but then also wikipedia is removing my article its worst you should accept it only the thing is i am not able to do citing and reference please give me the tutorial of citing and reference hope you will verify that page --Sourabh242 (talk) 07:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

PROD of Joe Cuzzetto

Hi Discospinster, I've declined your BLP PROD of Joe Cuzzetto since the page's creator has added references, though they are malformed. If you'd still like to see the article deleted, you could try a normal PROD or AfD. --BDD (talk) 21:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Your question at Help talk:Books has been answered.

You can view the full thread at Help talk:Books#Creating a book from template links?. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks! ... discospinster talk 03:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)