User talk:Discospinster/Archive9

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SSAI Board of Directors Page


you have deleted a page that took alot of work to compile. i do understand the reason you have deleted this at all, i am developing a work about the history of the Seacoast Shores Association (SSAI), a not-for-profit group. I would greatly appreciate it if you would restore this so i can continue my work on it.

Tgreve (talk) 21:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Peoples Socialist Federal Republics of Kygistan

i hope you relize that the page you deleted is my talk page, i was under the correct impression that what i put there is NOT subjected to deletion due to non-exsistance. I hope you will relize your mistake and restore it with best speed.

Thank You,


TK002 (talk) 22:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


Why did you delete my article? did it need more information? or was it not allowed, and help would be lovley! Thanks So2006 (talk) 02:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Y.B.C. committe deletion

this article was still in production and the group is by no means a "social club" or other unnecessary article. I would like to add more 3rd party resources and include more information and links so that i could make the page a legitimate wikipedia article, but i cannot do so without the source code. I spent hours so far on the article and it is not completed, but i had not thought of saving the source code on my computer before publication on wikipedia. I was too excited. Jordanmindyou (talk) 22:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

world of Wikipedia

How is The world of Wikipedia an inappropiate page? It contained valuable information that could promote Wikipedia's reputation and give Wikipedia more credibility. Kristy22 (talk) 00:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


Don't accuse anybody of vandalizing Wikipedia until you are 100% sure! Kristy22 (talk) 00:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


Just letting you know, I moved the WP:AIV report to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Moved from AIV - Kristy22. Feel free to comment there. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


Ah, forgot about that. Thanks for taking it down though. Ryou Hashimoto (talk) 03:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio error

As the nominator, I think your reversion of Shore_platform was in error. You've retained the copyvio in the article history. Better to delete and recreate the redirect. -- SEWilco (talk) 04:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


you cant delete a page when it say underconstruction that is unfair!-- King Rock Go 'Skins! 14:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


It is unfair!! You cannot delete my page because it doen't have enough content when it has the {{underconstruction}} template on it. Underconstruction means that it is yet to be finished this is an outraged and if I could I would tell and admin!-- King Rock Go 'Skins! 14:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


Deletion Review for Userbox

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Userbox. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Kingturtle (talk) 17:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

It didn't take long for user (aka turemetalfan) to return to wikipedia. Only he's no longer editing the list of gothic metal bands but rather Epica. Same problem as before. Three revert edits in a row now. I would appreciate your assistance once again. --Bardin (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King team

You forgot to provide a reason in this AfD. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 19:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Subdued commercial interests

Dear Discospinster,

I sincerely appreciate the charity of your personal donations to Wikipedia AND the enormity of the job you guys have to do in general. Maintaining the purity of Wikipedia's presentation is admirable and respected world wide.

My comment relates to your fair and consistent deletion of the links to Cytonix and Advanced Liquid Logic (ALL) from the list of external links on the "Digital microfluidics" page. However, my contention is that the "professors" remaining on the list are in fact BIG businesses themselves. The Duke group is behind ALL, and the Harvard Weitz group, the UCLA, Chicago, Planck and Toranto groups are all big players in the commercial world. Certain of these groups actually buy fluorinated coatings from us and claim to be on the verge of multinational commercial success in going public with their companies.

So, I urge you to address this significant issue with your Wiki colleagues.


Jim Brown/Cytonix —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfbrown (talkcontribs) 23:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

External Links Policy

Dear DiscoSpinster, thank you for your kind suggestions regarding external links policy. With a bit more time next week, I want to browse Wikipedia having this in mind before offering any, hopefully useful, suggestions. It may well be that the current policy is in fact self-consistent and as it should be:) Sincerely, Jim Brown —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfbrown (talkcontribs) 13:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Lotus Effect

Dear DiscoSpinster, I've made substantial, and I hope valuable, revisions to the Lotus Effect page, but I don't know what to do with the commercial interests that are there...Dockers, Nano-Ware and the Gap, for example. My company could reasonably list here, but, is it the right thing to do? We have manufactured superhydrophobic coatings for over 30 years...long before "nano" was a buzz word. Sincerely, Jim Brown —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfbrown (talkcontribs) 00:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear DiscoSpinster, thank you for the generosity of your time in providing helpful suggestions. The invitation to submit a notable page is also appreciated. I am assembling a new page, with considerably more preparation this time, that I hope will meet Wikipedia’s high standards. Also, as you kindly suggested, in editing pages containing information about which I have an interest and expertise, I will make every effort to maintain a respectful and neutral point of view. Jim Jamesfbrown (talk) 16:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Choral Arts Ensemble of Portland

Dear Discospinster. I responded to the speedy deletion tag placed on the Choral Arts Ensemble article as soon as I discovered it and contributed to the talk section of the article within minutes. You deleted the article before I could even save the justification for the notability of the article. Please restore the article to allow me the opportunity to include more notable information on the group's relevance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbaker13 (talkcontribs) 00:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Richard William Briginshaw

Not sure whether to slap a Original Research Tag, a speedy tag, or both on it. Thinking about prodding it and including the original research tag. Think that's the way to go? -WarthogDemon 01:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Just to give you the headsup, seems another editor has tagged it. -WarthogDemon 01:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I do! If there's one thing I learned at my RfA (besides the fact my Username mistake would've meant several Admin usernames violate policy) is this: when in doubt, prod or afd! -WarthogDemon 01:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Er forgive me for being slow. What did you learn? I learned something to about notability (and I'm still not even sure what makes him notable but I know when I'm mistaken). -WarthogDemon 02:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh! *Smacks forehead.* That's what I thought you meant. Sorry, was having a brain fart for a moment there... -WarthogDemon 02:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Puzzling deletion

Discospinster- by pure chance I happened to come across St George's, Hanover Square yesterday while researching a bishop who had been a curate there. I read it with interest because this church is exceptionally famous. I would like to know why you deleted it please. Bashereyre (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Ida L. Reed Homestead Deletion

You deleted my contrib "Ida L. Reed Homestead" based on "blatant copyright infringement." Number one, I wasn't nearly finished editing the page. Number two, and most importantly, is my blog!!! I don't believe I can infringe myself, but I do want to be careful not to do so, as it does sound painful.

I am new to contributing to Wikipedia, and am not pleased that I spent time on an entry just to have it quickly deleted without any discussion. If this is how things "work," I won't bother wasting further time with this. Did you have a serious interest in Ida L. Reed, or do you just troll around, randomly choosing a contribution to mess with? I definitely will be even more skeptical about what is posted to Wikipedia. Lessons learned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williadt (talkcontribs) 02:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


But it was so funny! Bearian (talk) 01:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Bill Harrigan

see National Rugby League for significance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smurfwow (talkcontribs) 20:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

User:Moosato Cowabata gone again

Hi Disco, I thought i'd restored the one good version. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 19:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Medi 2012 (comic) Deletion

- I'd like to thank you for deleting the article. I'm who the article was about. My friend made it out good intentions, but I felt as if the article didn't need to exist yet. But, he didn't believe me. So, thank you again. InfernoFireMech (talk) 03:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


Well, let's see now. I put some rubbish up on website, pure fantasy, and you report it on wikipeida. this does not constitute any sort of hoax. Oh God, we are in trouble, this means any old rubbish on any old website, if I report it in an article in Wiki in apparent good faith, is somehow of value? (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Mark Mathis


Can you tell me what I need to do in order to establish importance/significance? I thought that I had done so.

Thanks for your help!

Webbbbbbber (talk) 17:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback on my talk page. I figured that since a "viral video" website considered his videos "viral", that would be enough to establish notability. No worries though: through the help of another editor I've found some newspaper articles about him. I'm kinda busy at the moment, but I'm working on a better article. I'll let you know when it's ready! Webbbbbbber (talk) 21:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


The plural of 'ndrina is 'ndrine. Check under 'Ndrangheta. Maybe you should check something (an encyclopedia like Wikipedia, for instance) before you delete something. - Mafia Expert (talk) 22:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

ANI Discussion

Just FYI, there is a discussion involving you at ANI Request for block of User:Discospinster --Torchwood Who? (talk) 23:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


Discospinster, thank you for deleting User_talk:Ivan_Akira/Litter_Or_Not_Litter_That’s_The_Question_(Drama)! Ivan Akira (talk) 13:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. ... discospinster talk 19:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the deletion of CONDENSATE POLISHERS. It was not only speedy, it was quick. --SSBohio 00:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Gavin Walsh

I had tagged the article Gavin Walsh for speedy deletion (CSD A7) on April 5 (UTC time) and you deleted the article a short while later. After a few hours, I did some research on the subject on LexisNexis and found some sources that were not available via a Google search. So ... I have recreated the article from scratch using the sources I found. I thought you might like to know... Black Falcon (Talk) 02:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. (I just didn't want you to be confused if you checked your logs and discovered a blue-link for the article.) :) Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 03:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

List of Pearland High School Valedictorians and Salutatorians

Why did you delete that page? I was working on it, and if you cannot tell what the significance of it is, I can't help you. Duh! Self-Explanatory! The1darknight (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Omid Habibinia‎

Just wanted to say I'm quite amazed by your dedication to WP that you'd turn a one-line article in to a decent stub. Nice work! (EhJJ)TALK 00:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, He is alos media researcher, his CV is here: and here you can find also some more information:

He was worked at the BBC World Service ( Persian Service) and presented some research papers to confrences like: IAMCR, He writes for Persian, German and English media. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Setareh Persian (talkcontribs) 00:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting my mistake

I'm writing this to thank you for deleting County Road 143 (Hamilton County, Florida. This was an erroneous redirection, and the correct one already exists. ----DanTD (talk) 04:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem, that's what I'm here for. ... discospinster talk 15:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

The Theory of Island Biogeography

Books don't redirect to their subject. I'm not going to dignify this by giving an example. If something doesn't fit the speedy deletion laws replace it with a prod tag. Or, if you like, write an article yourself as you suggested. Richard001 (talk) 05:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty much irrelevant how long it has existed. Despite Wikipedia's 'rigorous self-scrutiny', the Seigenthaler vandalism remained for a wee while, didn't it? My point-to-take-on-board is that you shouldn't just remove a speedy tag because it doesn't meet the criteria; you should replace it with a prod tag if speedy isn't appropriate. Nobody is going to object to this so it's pretty much a done deal either way. I had a similarly titled redirect deleted a year ago with no problems. Richard001 (talk) 23:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


His editing of Taos High School's information is NOT appreciated, I've been working with the school and his input is not factual nor respectful. --Taostiger (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


Barnstar of Humour3.png The Barnstar of Good Humor
Maybe it isn't that funny, but I loved your reasons for deleting Category:Wikipedians who are nuerotic. It reminded me of near the end of National Treasure where the FBI dude says "You are under arrest for kidnapping and attempted murder. And trespassing on government property." I'm still laughing. J.delanoygabsadds 01:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thule society

Thanks for looking. When I came across this, I was at a loss to decide which criteria to use. It remains astounding to me that crap like this can survive so many years. It fails WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE and so for all we can tell is full of copyvios. The big edit of 2005-01-04 looks like a massive copy-paste by a now-untraceable AOL IP user. Even without looking at the subject matter, this thing's got to go. Any advice on which AFD criteria to use? LeadSongDog (talk) 16:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks, will pursue.LeadSongDog (talk) 17:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Thule Society

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Thule Society, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thule Society. Thank you. LeadSongDog (talk) 17:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/José Fidalgo

What the heck happened here? This AfD got closed and then re-opened. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 02:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

A. Y. Jackson Secondary School (Ottawa, Ontario)

The previous AfD for A. Y. Jackson Secondary School (Ottawa, Ontario) is here. GreenJoe 16:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Cartoon Network

Can you please move the article Cartoon Network (US) back to its original name "Cartoon Network"? The name change was unnecessary and there was already a disambiguation page under the name Cartoon Network around the world. Furthermore, a television network that originated in the United States shouldn't have to be titled with a (US) name. 53180 (talk) 18:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)53180.

User talk:Lovato45 - Look familiar?

Someone who likes American Idol. See also their edit here. Just saying. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I got tired of waiting for something to happen on its own - Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Kristy22 Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Reuben Glaser

Can you maybe give me more than a 10 seconds to fix the Reuben Glaser article? You literally deleted it less than 10 seconds after I created it, and you didn't even read the talk page. You are really an unfair editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paultheairplane (talkcontribs) 21:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Re. your deletion of Indoor bonsai/lead

Can you maybe give me more than 10 seconds to discuss this deletion with me? Read this and discuss. Emmanuelm (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Is there an echo in here? ... discospinster talk 18:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


I can only type so fast. She's put out three or four albums, including two on my label, Carrot Top Records which is notable. I'm just a little slow.


You deleted my article, ShowLogic, on April 19. According to your assessment this was "blatent advertising". I have read G11 and also reviewed the other articles on the "presentation software" page and I am trying to understand how the page I created is different from the others listed under that article. I am willing to rewrite this article to adhere to the guidelines if I am missing something, but can you please elaborate on where the issues lie and how I can get a copy of the original article to make the necessary modifications.

Best regards,

Tina Deatherage


So, you're the one who deleted my article on Pokemon: Den of Ages...

Why isn't it of significance? I find it's an interesting game and people need to know more about it...

The site doesn't offer the kind of information I gave and I can totally cite my resources given the time...

I think it's easier for the people who do play this game to come to it's wiki page and figure out how it works... I can elaborate on some things...

Other than that, I feel like it's just a prejudice. I did model the page after WoW's page, for fear I'd get it deleted for not being informative enough, and it still got deleted...

Please write back...

I find this super unfair, and I have read about your edit history and the other complaints you've received...

I can make edits if necessary... I just spent too much time on that Wiki just for it to be deleted...

Silver (talk) 12:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Deborah-Jane S Tompkins

I would like a valid excuse as to why you deleted my page under G3???/

I have spoken with Deborah and have her permission to submit her page and to at somepoint link it with all the others that she has got with her name on, if you had bothered to look her up you would have seen she is a very very fine lady who should be on a board such as ths rather than half the rubbish that is, maybe instead of assuming as editoral staff you are always right when in this case you clearly are not.

I am cross you didn't even bother as to actually spend the time explaining, surely you are able to do so? maybe the wrong templat was used and maybe I should ahve finished it completely before comeing off line but there you go, I will be submitting again, please leave the page alone if you do not understand it or be so kind as to ask questions, as I understand from others you normally at least offer advice, which in fact would have been so gratefull recived seeing as the instructions here are rubbish and very difficult to understand and make sense off.

Thank you for jumping in quickly, but this time you did wrong and i will re do it, hopefully with some advice.

Susietb (talk) 12:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Try looking up Deborah Jane Soothall, maybe I should put her down in her married name, but this is not her known name. Thank you for your very quick reply. Susietb (talk) 19:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


How can I define this beast? It is a media project. Should I poke it under a definition of who I am?

pls reply my talk page —Preceding unsigned comment added by SROTTLEZ (talkcontribs) 03:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

...Please do Not

Please do not make disruptive edits, as you did to Española Valley High School. Those were stats taken by a student body club or organization they have the right to be there! I will undo your edits. -Thank You

TomSalazar Chat?! 12:38 MT, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Well don't worry about it.. Just because your some top editor of wikipedia dont mean nothing! I think its people like you who scare people away from using and editing this site you cause more harm than good! Obviously you dont live in Espanola so you don't know much about this school! TomSalazar Chat?! 12:45 MT, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

ohhhh no... someone's going to block me if i dont listen..dood seriously get a life already your are annoying! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasalazar (talkcontribs) 19:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Your user page

Your user page displays Barnstars different than those that you were awarded. This can be misleading and is generally frowned upon. You may want to change it as this fact undermines your credibility within wikipedia. --Lemmey talk 03:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The relevant guidelines for using article-space categories are here and here.

Furthermore, if you are going to accuse me of falsifying barnstars, you had better have diffs to back it up. ... discospinster talk 15:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC) = You are currently displaying Barnstars different than those you were awarded :) --Lemmey talk 16:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
That's not what I'm talking about. ... discospinster talk 16:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Then I don't know what your talking about. --Lemmey talk 16:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


Please do not remove are stats from the EVHS page. Those were taken this year by us. Thank You --EVHS (NNYDL) (talk) 8:43, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Well there acurate so stop ruining are page its very disrespectful! --EVHS (NNYDL) (talk) 8:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me ..who in the hell is that? ..and whatever man go edit and bother someone else. --EVHS (NNYDL) (talk) 8:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

OMG!!! someone is making threats...iam so scared.. thats funny you change and make up your own barnstars thats low and embarassing!! Get a life!! like one out of this site! —Preceding unsigned comment added by EVHS (NNYDL) (talkcontribs) 03:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

St. James Historic District , San Jose

My apologies for posting that article. I did not even read the instructions and wrote the article ad hoc based on my knowledge as an activist here in downtown San Jose. I would like re-review the "advertised style" article so i MAY KEEP RECORD OF IT AND POSSIBLY UPDATE IT FOR OUR NEW STJAMES.ORG SITE .

I am reading about the style of writing , order to place in Wikipedia. My apologies again - I am one of those epole who thought it was acceptable based on the history, but got carried away in hyperbole.

You can send it to me at

Thanks much and my apologie again - this is the first time I have began looking into this site and I have to tell you - IT IS AMAZING! Can't wait to learn more about it.

Best Regards, Frank Penrose —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fpenrose (talkcontribs) 03:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The Chaldean Mafia

Thanks for correcting my mistake. I overlooked the fact that it was from a government agency. Oore (talk) 03:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Song to the Siren (Tim Buckley song)

I noticed that you deleted this page on April 3. I was about the create/recreate the page. Any other objection to it other than the fact it carried the lyrics? If there was anything else there other than the lyrics could you restore it without the copyrighted material? Thanks Sillyfolkboy (talk) 22:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay fair enough. To be honest i'm sick of seeing page after page of random album tracks with two lines written and a link to the album, that's completely useless! I'm pretty confident i can find notability as he played it on the monkees show and it's been covered by this mortal coil with chart success. I've been expanding the Tim Buckley page and felt at least one of his songs should be notable enough to warrant a page. Feel free to keep an eye on what i'm doing in case there's any problems though. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I've created the article now but still wondering about using the lyrics as it looks like there's no consensus. What is the common WP practice? Is it just easier to leave them out to prevent copyright issues? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 06:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi, you deleted Pricewatch some time ago. I was wondering if you could userfy a copy of it for me (your deletion summary indicates it wasn't a copyvio). I'd like to see if there's anything worth saving. Thanks. --Rividian (talk) 23:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Now I see why you deleted it... oh well. --Rividian (talk) 16:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Malankara association

Hello Discospinster,

I will tell you the reason why the 'Malankara Association' page I have created should not be redirected to 'the Jacobite Syrian church'.

The Malankara Association is governing body of the 'Indian Orthodox Church,consisting of elected representatives of the church.It started in 1876. The church constitution has clearly defined the composition and representation of the association. . This was later amended in time with Supreme Court directive.

The Malankara Metropolitan,who is also the Catholicos, presides the meeting and the bishops having administrative charge of Diocese shall be vice-presidents of the association.In 2002,the Jacobite Syrian Church of India,which was earlier a part of the Indian Orthodox church and now under the control of Patriarch of Antioch,claimed that their local leader was the real Malankara Metropolitan,and wanted re-election .Thus The Supreme Court Of India ,ordered that the association should be held at a time and place which would also be decided by the Supreme Court Of India.The Supreme Court also appointed JUSTICE V. S. MALIMATH,as the obserever of the association , to ensure free and fair election from both sides .But on the day of the Malankara Association ,the jacobite faction, didnot come and they formed their own association called 'Jacobite Syrian Christian Association' at a place called Puthencruez.Thus the Supreme Court declared that the Malankara Metropolitan was properly elected ,and that the association should be always presided by him.

From this you may clearly understand that the Malankara Association ,is the association of the Indian Orthodox Church.Therefore please do not redirect it to the Jacobite Syrian church.I ensure you that I shall expand the article as soon as possible.Arun V Roy (talk) 05:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Western computers deletion

Is there any way of retrieving the article deleted, 'Western Computers' as I am keen to change any peripherals . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanner0jjm (talkcontribs) 08:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Restoring Malankara Association

hello Discospinster

Since I have explained to you why the Malankara Association should not be re-directed to the Jacobite Syrian Church,and you seem to understand it,could you please restore the original page I created on Malankara Association ? Thanks Arun V Roy (talk) 15:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)