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On the spelling of "subgenre" (18 November 2014)
Points to consider
  1. I bet that just about any hyphened word composed of two properly spelled words will not trigger a spell checker. E.g., Firefox is just fine with both "sewage-food" and "swill-Bolshoi", probably for grammatical reasons (using a hyphen as a compound modifier).
  2. Spell checkers have a deliberately limited vocabulary, in order to limit false positives, and "subgenre" may not included in your spell checker's list, leading to a false negative.
Research completed

I checked before I started, and OneLook Dictionary Search gives four results for "sub-genre" (none of which lead to an actual, valid entry) versus twelve for "subgenre", of which:

  • nine lead to entries for that spelling in dictionaries;
  • one is Wikipedia's redirect to the "Genre" article;
  • one is the Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary's entry for "sub-" (which only gives the syllabification for the word);
  • one is a 404 error for ODLIS: Online Dictionary of Library and Information Science.

Also, I checked the British side of the Oxford Dictionaries, and still came up with "subgenre" for a search for "sub-genre".

Thus I believe "subgenre" is the correct spelling.

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With your valuable contribution this article is good enough. Iynod Agat (talk) 20:44, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

<mystified> Okay—thank you. But which article?</mystified>—DocWatson42 (talk) 05:01, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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Merry Merry[edit]

To you and yours

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Clifford Grey[edit]

Hello! I do not believe that the hyphen is an error that justifies the use of "sic". Some mainstream newspapers use it. See, for example this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

And yet the Oxford Dictionaries do not, so I believe that usage to be a mistake.—DocWatson42 (talk) 17:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Nor, for that matter, does the spelling "sub-genre" appear in any dictionary I was able to find, so whether or not it is a mistake, on close examination it appears to be one, which I strongly feel merits a "sic".—DocWatson42 (talk) 18:14, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I think that the overuse of "sic" would be a mistake, so we must agree to disagree. Happy holidays! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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And to you, sir or madam. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 23:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Spelling of title[edit]

We both had different names for an anime in the article Shizuku-chan. I used "Picchipichi Shizuku-chan" because an external source and other articles uses this name. I replaced "Pitchipichi Shizuku-chan" with the previous name because I cannot find reliable uses of "Pitchipichi" elsewhere. Is it correct? TheGGoose (talk) 18:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

It seems to be. The relevant authority is the "Romanization" section of the Manual of Style/Japan-related articles.—DocWatson42 (talk) 03:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

questions on copy-editing[edit]

Hi, I'm a journalist with the Boston Globe interested in learning about copy-editing at Wikipedia. If you're available to talk in the next couple of days, want to email me? thanks! Brittpeterson (talk) 17:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Doc[edit]

I'm surprised no one has done this before, but I've given your account the wp:Reviewer right. This means you can accept as well as revert edits to articles covered by wp:pending changes. Regards ϢereSpielChequers 13:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! ^_^ (I don't interact with other editors very much, so it doesn't surprise me that I haven't had such an "upgrade".)—DocWatson42 (talk) 05:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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Portal bar changes[edit]

I do not think it's sound to refer to a 2010 talk page that doesn't mention {{portal bar}} to run a systematic move of portal bars from elsewhere on the page to the See also section. Indeed {{portal}}'s documentation recommends putting portals in another section if a See also section doesn't exist. It's bad form to create such a section for a portal bar. Also {{portal bar}}'s documentation indicates that common practice is to put the portal bar at the bottom of the page—it isn't appropriate to switch these instances systematically based on a minor, five-year old discussion. Please achieve a renewed consensus before systematically changing these articles.

Also under what guidance are you changing {{'s}} instances into {{-'}}s? The former displays better for me and the documentation would indicate that the latter was not intended to follow italics but for other use cases. czar  10:12, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

I see that you are still making this {{portal bar}} change. Through BRD, I am contesting these changes. What is your rationale for creating empty See Also sections against the documentation's guidance? czar  23:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the delay in replying. I'm away this weekend, but I will try to reply in detail on Sunday or Monday.—DocWatson42 (talk) 23:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Again, I apologize for the delay in responding. To take the issues in order:
  1. I base my changes of portal templates on MOS:SEEALSO and Wikipedia talk:Portal/Archive 5#Question relating to portals, the latter of which I do not regard as minor, but the opinion of a Wikipedia administrator and the current fourth-ranking contributor. Placing portal links solely in the See also section makes much more sense than does the somewhat conflicting and contradictory instructions of {{portal}} and {{portal bar}} (though both templates' instructions also state that they may be placed in the See also section). Working from that logic, those two templates, and {{portal-inline}} (whose instructions state "Within articles, this template is meant to be placed at the bottom of the article in the See also section"), are merely different tools for the same task, to be used as appropriate to a particular article's layout. I use {{portal}} when the See also section is long enough, {{portal bar}} when either something is intruding from above (usually an image) or {{portal}} will significantly protrude below—this is more elegant than using {{portal}} in conjunction with {{-}} or {{clear}}—and {{portal-inline}} when an infobox is much longer than the text of the article, and would thus push a {{portal}} or {{portal bar}} far down the page.
  2. I use a small font, for which {{-'}} displays better than {{'s}}, especially with letters with right-handed verticals (M's, d's), from which, when they are italicized, I can hardly distinguish the apostrophe. Any extra space doesn't bother me. {{-'}} also nearly matches {{-"}}, which I have occasion to use; it's easy to use both, and not worry about other templates.
  3. The third change I made on the Titanfall article was to convert the {{Commons category-inline}} template to a {{Commons category}} template, which is in accordance with WP:LAYOUTEL, as there are other external links in the External links section.
  4. The fourth change I made on the Titanfall article was to move the {{good article}} template to after the external links. I am unaware of any mention of the placement of this type of template in the MoS (searches: "good article", "featured article"), but their instructions state "This template should be placed at the bottom of the article before defaultsort, categories and interwikis."


DocWatson42 (talk) 06:49, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
(1) I already explained why it's a weak basis to use a 2010 comment to systematically change something five years later. Consensus on the {{portal bar}} page is to remove the "See also" section line—I just haven't done it yet. The idea is that it's really ugly to have a bar by itself across the middle of a page. And for making a See also section just for a portal bar, your WP:LAYOUTEL says Do not make a section whose sole content is box-type templates. (2) It may display better for you, but then it displays poorly for everyone else, including the average reader. Instead of changing the wikicode, a better solution would be modifying your own browser (your solitary case) to fix the overlapping text, or if you feel the issue is more prevalent, to have a discussion about the template to make sure it displays properly for other readers at small sizes. But the answer is not modifying arbitrary articles to not use the most common template to suit your own situation. (3) I'm aware of WP:LAYOUTEL and there are not many links (there are two), so I'd prefer to keep the inline with no harm done. (4) I'm fine this. I do it myself when I can. czar  11:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Hidden text added at Climate Fiction[edit]

Could you please explain this edit? Better yet, please add the explanation to the existing thread at article talk, which is

Talk:Climate_fiction#"Genre" or "theme" or "category" or "_____"?

Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 08:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Done. I'm afraid I meant to point to this page (the essay at the top), not my top page.—DocWatson42 (talk) 09:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Ach so. Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Neutral notice[edit]

This is a neutral notice of a discussion at Talk:Avengers: Age of Ultron#Subsection: RE: "visit" over using either the word "visit" or the phrase "go to" in a particular context. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 04:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

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Film categories[edit]

Please see WP:FILMCAT. We don't order film categories in alphabetical order. When you do that, the director's name appears in the middle of the list of genres, which isn't really very helpful. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:08, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry about that—I was unaware that was any specified systematic order of film categories. However, in that edit I was doing much more than just alphabetizing the categories—I was adding a missing comma and correcting the placement of the {{Good article}} template. May I go back and redo those edits?—DocWatson42 (talk) 03:02, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Cleaning up The Station nightclub fire[edit]

I'm going to wager you also read the article having seen the Reddit video post and decided to do some cleanup? If so, then great minds think alike! —f3ndot (TALK) (EMAIL) (PGP) 07:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I've just been mulling over the fire for a week or two, and finally remembered it while sitting in front of my computer, so I looked it up. I was totally unaware of the Reddit post—this is just coincidence. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 07:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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Are your serious?[edit]

IMF staff estimates are legitimate estimates and no figures here are solid. Also the the 2014 estimates are made by the same source so are you judging the competence of the the 2015 estimates and trusting the ones from 2014? Orelbon (talk) 00:47, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Huh? To which article are you referring? Offhand, the only "IMF" I can recall dealing with recently is the Impossible Missions Force, not (I assume) the International Monetary Fund. Are you sure you have the correct editor?—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Looking back on your contributions, the only article which we both visited recently is the that of the United Kingdom, where Rob984 just reverted your edits. I think it is s/he that you want to contact, not me.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:14, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Woops sorry I'm using my iPhone it kinda hard to see whose who 15:57, 13 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orelbon (talkcontribs)

Your edit on Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet[edit]

Check the Voice cast section. Film Fan 09:58, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

[deep sigh] Fixed. :-/ —DocWatson42 (talk) 10:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

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You have done so many good things here that I think you need to be commended on more than one front for all of your great work. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

<blush> ^_^ Thank you.—DocWatson42 (talk) 08:29, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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Oh!—thank you! And the same to you!—DocWatson42 (talk) 17:30, 21 December 2015 (UTC) ^_^

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Can you contribute to the page I made?[edit]

I made a page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_mythological_or_fantastic_beings_in_contemporary_fiction It could use more contributions. Much appreciated... Tamtrible (talk) 07:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't think I have much to contribute in an "official" sense, but here's my own personal (incomplete) list of types and subtypes (which leans heavily on my experience with Dungeons & Dragons):
  • Angels
  • Devils/demons
  • Dragons
    • Western
      • Wyverns
    • Eastern
  • Elementals & quasi-elementals (dryads, etc.)
  • Fae
  • Gargoyles
  • Humanoid animals
  • Magic users
    • Clerics/priests
  • Psionics
  • Shapeshifters
    • Lycanthropes (werewolves, etc.)
  • Undead
    • Ghosts
    • Ghouls
    • Revenants
    • Vampires
      • Dhampirs/living vampires
    • Zombies
I hope that helps. —DocWatson42 (talk)
Oh, and IMHO you should use Template:Sort to properly alphabetize the table.—DocWatson42 (talk) 11:31, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

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Fixed—a closing angle bracket was missing. —DocWatson42 (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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I didn't create the article, nor do I remember having anything to do with it. Possibly I corrected a misspelling in it at some point?—DocWatson42 (talk) 22:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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Fixed.—DocWatson42 (talk) 23:31, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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Cleanup[edit]

Hey Doc, re: your cleanup, portals are never supposed to be in an empty See Also section like that, and in fact the documentation says that it goes at the bottom of the page. Also I prefer the whitespace as it was—makes it easer to parse while editing. czar 06:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Regarding portals (and other boxes), I generally disagree with the documentation—for one thing, the portal bar is often useful for keeping infoboxes and images from intruding into the Notes/References section in wide browser windows. Also, I find the white space to be bothersome. However, in this case what I really feel strongly about is keeping the "[sic]" and the spelling "portait" (which is in the original, much to my regret) in the journal citation.—DocWatson42 (talk) 06:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
I can understand the frustration but those types of drive-by edits are the epitome of what the WP community discourages (whitespace changes, template changes for personal preferences opposite the documentation, and byzantine additions). I see no reason to use sic instead of just fixing the straightforward typographical error. A professional publication would not reproduce the error on virtue of its accuracy. czar 07:48, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, "drive-by edits" were what I was doing, since I was cleaning up misspellings from my list, plus other problems I spotted in the articles I was correcting. Adding "sic" means that I don't have to revisit an article, and reproducing a title accurately means that it can be found/a citation verified much more easily if a link dies (try to find "Abba Gordin: A potrait of a Jewish anarchist" if you spell "potrait" corretly). Note that I try to be consistent in this in general—The New York Times for New York Times, and Daily News (New York) rather than New York Daily News. However, MOS:PMC (which I just found) supports you for quotations (titles are not mentioned), and I have been making a few such corrections when the quotation is unverifiable, due either to a dead link in the citation/reference, or when the quotation has no citation.
I am also following MOS:APPENDIX in its general guidelines as to the placement of portals and other boxes. I much prefer consistency in the placement of portals, sister project links, and similar items—putting them in the same section every time—that is, barring their inclusion in infoboxes and navbars, which supersede the usual placement.—DocWatson42 (talk) 08:24, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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Cancelled vs. canceled[edit]

Just for future reference, there's no need to do this in the future as both spelling are correct. One is just less used now than it used to be. Same with travelled/traveled. As long as the article is internally consistent, either spelling is acceptable. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:25, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Actually, the Oxford Dictionaries Online state that "cancelled" is British-only. Per MOS:TIES, I only change the spelling in American-related articles. Since David Weber is an American author, I changed it, where I would not have for, say, Arthur C. Clarke. —DocWatson42 (talk) 21:05, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
The Oxford Dictionaries Online also state that "travelled" is "chiefly British".—DocWatson42 (talk) 21:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
They are both now chiefly/only British, but that wasn't always the case. It's only in the last few years that American spelling has been changing to the single "l". ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the Clean Up: Uechi-Ryū[edit]

Thanks for cleaning up the grammar and other details! 98.227.140.14 (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 10:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

M1917 Browning machine gun damage[edit]

This edit did damage: "Vickers machine gun" -> "United States Army Ordnance Corps". Glrx (talk) 18:03, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

@Glrx: I apologize—I don't know why I did that, and that was not my intention (the rest of my changes I did intend). I have made the two corrections.—DocWatson42 (talk) 01:50, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Glrx (talk) 03:49, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
@Glrx: You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 03:52, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Clean up[edit]

DocWatson42, I wounder why you characterized your last edit on Erich von Manstein page as "clean-up"? Are there policies or guidelines encouraging the use of one template over the other? Carlotm (talk) 23:19, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

There are no such policies—I merely prefer the portal bar and individual Wikimedia sister project templates over the subject bar because they take up less vertical space, and because placing the Wikimedia sister project links directly in the External links section puts them where they are most often found.
I see. In fact the location of that page portal information (whether Portal bar or Subject bar) is quite unusual. In your clean-up you could have moved it where it's usually found, i.e. right after the last section. BTW I prefer the Subject bar for the very reason of your dislike. Portal bar looks to me too tight. But, as they say, de gustibus non est disputandum. Cheers. Carlotm (talk) 08:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Remarks[edit]

Why did you put "Short novel—over 100 pages in length in paperback." in remark markup on The Service of the Sword and Honorverse? If it is relevant, it should be in the article, and if not, it shouldn't be there at all. Debresser (talk) 14:28, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

To explain why I changed (The Service of the Sword, Honorverse) the style of those titles from "in quotations" to italics (see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Text_formatting#Names_and_titles), and to help make certain the style wasn't changed back. In the future I'll try to make that explanation less awkwardly.—DocWatson42 (talk) 02:30, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
You shouldn't add explanation just like that. This is absolutely a minor issue. Debresser (talk) 04:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Space double template[edit]

I'm curious about this edit: [1]. It's not a documented use of this template, and while I could maybe see putting it at the end of Udjat I don't see the point of putting it at the beginning of the word. On my screen it doesn't make much difference and I don't object to putting it here but I am curious. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:12, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Kendall-K1: My intention was to move ("lean in") the leading double quotation mark to better align it with the italicized Udjat (as the trailing "space double template" does at the end of the word), which I assumed it would do. However, I just checked and there seems to be no such effect, so it is apparently superfluous. Oops. <blush> I've made the correction.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

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Fixed.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Many thanks DocWatson42 for your work...it's much appreciated! The Apollo Seed (talk) 00:16, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

And here I thought the red alert notice was (more) bad news. Thank you, and you're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:30, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry![edit]

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC) Lights ablaze.JPG

@Bzuk: And same back at you. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 04:05, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

See also sections[edit]

We tend not to have these in medication article per "Avoid the See also section when possible; prefer wikilinks in the main article and navigation templates at the end."[2] Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:54, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

@Doc James: Beg pardon—this is not included in the main Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout, and thus is not at all obvious.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:02, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
True. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
@Doc James: Would you be willing to add it to the MoS so that non-specialists like myself would know about it?—DocWatson42 (talk) 18:47, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Sure will do :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:56, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
@Doc James: Thank you. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 18:57, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

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CUSACK cleanup![edit]

C.Cleeve (talk) 11:58, 24 March 2017 (UTC)Dear DocWatson42, Thank you for the excellent cleanup you performed on CUSACK. I was and still am a novice at recording stuff on Wiki (being rather old). I struggled to put down a few facts about my early family history when I found, a number of years ago, that there was but a two line entry. I thought, back then, that other Cusacks might possibly be interested to read a few things about the family (surprised when my grandson told me that there had been nearly 12,000 visits to the site in the past year). I have appreciated the help and guidance that you and your fellow helpers who give unstintingly to help, guide and correct we who at times don't know what we are doing - but try! I know I've been 'told off' for my non encyclopedic presentation but I'll live with that! Thanks again Doc.

@C.Cleeve: You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 18:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
@C.Cleeve: I'm not very involved with the social side of Wikipedia, but if you have questions about the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, especially article layout and copy editing, I'll do my best to help.—DocWatson42 (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

On Felwine Sarr[edit]

Hello Doc!

I think the page on Felwine Sarr is now good enough; who is charge of removing the templates upon it? Regards. --Morgoko (talk) 21:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

@Morgoko: I did some more clean up on it, and I think you just need to add a few more references for the end of the article—for the assertions after the current last citation ("'Afrotopia' (Philippe Rey, 2016),[6]"), especially the details of his discography and awards. After that, you can remove the cleanup template yourself—see WP:MTR. —DocWatson42 (talk) 04:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to join WP:RRTF[edit]

Trident logo.svgHello, DocWatson42! I'd like to invite you to join the Rick Riordan Task Force (formerly the "Percy Jackson" Task Force) of WikiProject Novels. We work to improve articles related to Rick Riordan and his books. Your edits to The Lost Hero were much appreciated. Even if you have no interest in our particular topic range, I would urge you to consider joining to help out with copyediting, formatting, etc. RRTF has very few editors who occupy technical roles. Please, check out our project page or contact me to learn more! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 15:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
*Please note that membership is open only to full users. If you currently edit with an IP address, please consider creating an account today! We would love to have you.

@2ReinreB2: Thank you. ^_^ I'm not interested in joining, but when I find the time I'll do a pass through the relevant articles. Copyediting and formatting are two of my strengths, and I'm looking to earn my Grandmaster Editor star. —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:49, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
I understand. We welcome any help you can give, although (as the advertiser I am) I'd still encourage you to consider listing yourself as a Supporter, especially if you wouldn't mind some of our editors asking for your advice from time to time. In particular, our page The House of Hades was recently put up for GA review, if you're looking for a potential source of copyedits. Thanks for getting back to me, and happy editing! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 23:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
@2ReinreB2: I've added myself as a Supporter. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:29, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Sources added to Felwine Sarr[edit]

Hello Doc! I've added new sources to the Felwine Sarr page; could you go and check? If there's more to do to get the template removed, kindly let me know. Regards.

--Morgoko (talk) 20:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Morgoko: My apologies for taking so long to respond—I'm afraid I'm not a very good correspondent. :-( The article looks good, except that the references should be formatted (see Wikipedia:Citing sources, and in particular Wikipedia:Bare URLs) using the Citation Style 1 templates (to match the style of those already in use, per WP:CITEVAR. I personally prefer Citation Style 1 over Citation Style 2—the latter's use of commas instead of periods bugs me.). E.g., change the first new reference:

<ref>Source: [http://www.liberation.fr/debats/2016/03/24/felwine-sarr-l-afrique-n-a-personne-a-rattraper_1441781 Libération]</ref>

to:

<ref>{{Cite news |last=Calvet |first=Catherine |date=24 March 2016 |title=Felwine Sarr: «L’Afrique n’a personne à rattraper» |url=http://www.liberation.fr/debats/2016/03/24/felwine-sarr-l-afrique-n-a-personne-a-rattraper_1441781 |department=Good Morning Africa (column) |work=[[Libération]] |location=Paris |language=FR |access-date=8 May 2017}}</ref>

Which yields:

Calvet, Catherine (24 March 2016). "Felwine Sarr: «L’Afrique n’a personne à rattraper»". Good Morning Africa (column). Libération (in French). Paris. Retrieved 8 May 2017. 

Note that I left the guillemets in the title since it's not in English, but that they should not be used in English-language quotations (my apologies to you if you already knew this—I mean no offense). Note also that spacing between/within the fields of the template does not matter per se, as the result displays the same whether there are no spaces or carriage returns before or after the pipe (|) characters, or spaces before or after the equals signs. E.g.,

<ref>{{Cite news | last = Calvet | first = Catherine | date = 24 March 2016 | title = Felwine Sarr: «L’Afrique n’a personne à rattraper» | url = http://www.liberation.fr/debats/2016/03/24/felwine-sarr-l-afrique-n-a-personne-a-rattraper_1441781 | department = Good Morning Africa (column) | work = [[Libération]] | location = Paris | language = FR | access-date = 8 May 2017}}</ref><poem>


<poem><ref>{{Cite news</span>
| last=Calvet
| first=Catherine
| date=24 March 2016
| title=Felwine Sarr: «L’Afrique n’a personne à rattraper»
| url=http://www.liberation.fr/debats/2016/03/24/felwine-sarr-l-afrique-n-a-personne-a-rattraper_1441781
| department=Good Morning Africa (column)
| work=[[Libération]]
| location=Paris
| language=FR
| access-date=8 May 2017}}</ref>

(et cetera) are both equivalent to the first example. However, I feel that in the horizontal usage one space before the pipes gives the best balance between use of space, readability, and line wrapping in the edit box. Similarly, the fields can be in any order, but in my opinion should be in the order in which they are displayed, to make future editing easier.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:04, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
@Morgoko: A few more issues I feel I should mention. You seem to have avoided puffery, and established notability (though you should be prepared for another editor to differ on this point), but see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Also, if you are Felwine Sarr (and I am not asking), do be careful. —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:09, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors![edit]

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Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 04:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Altar server[edit]

Hi, DocWatson42, I was wondering why you removed the perrow 5 for the gallery. Imo it doesn't look nice now. Thank you for your time. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 09:10, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

@Lotje: It seemed redundant, given that the gallery is composed of five images. I've now reduced the size of the thurifer image so that it does not cause the following image to impinge on the gallery in wide browser windows (I use a width of 1600 pixels, to my knowledge not an uncommon size) and centered the gallery. How does it look to you? —DocWatson42 (talk) 10:28, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Wonderful! Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 10:29, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Oh, good. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 10:32, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Editors?![edit]

Hi Doc, thanks for your note. Like yourself, I have tailed off lately as I was fatigued from the continual battles with editors who took a very protective stand on "their" articles. I have resolved to let the "water off a duck's back" philosophy work. I am out today on a trip but will write again when I find some time. Cheers. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:19, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

@Bzuk: Thank you for your reply. I haven't tailed off (I've actually accelerated in recent months), but I look forward to your full response. To restate my request in a different way, I don't know how dispute resolution on Wikipedia works, and am looking for guidance. (If you know anyone else who might be helpful, I'm open to suggestions.) Though Wikipedia:Ownership of content seems to be a place to start. (Thinking about your phrase "editors who took a very protective stand on 'their' articles" reminded me of that policy, and made me look it up. ^_^) —DocWatson42 (talk) 14:34, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg kudos on having a similar username. also, thanks for all the edits- 🐦Do☭torWho42 (📼) 20:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
@DoctorWho42: You're welcome. ^_^

Thermosphere.[edit]

My concern here is that people fail to grasp the concept that heat transfer is not dependent on air molecules. If it was then how would the sun warm us? Also the fact that the thermosphere is actually a hemisphere and not global might help in the understanding of what we are talking about here. There is no thermosphere 'up there' at night, as it were. This topic is clouded and made murky because it has become something of a political minefield, which is well explored in other wiki articles, but the statement that heat is not felt because the air is too thin wrong and is being used by people who can't understand the basic concept of infrared radiation and solar heat transfer. I don't relish the thought of editing anyone's work, so could you please reconsider your work here. Jamie.d (talk) 22:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Would you please be so kind as to elaborate a bit? What about my (sole) edit (edit history) to the thermosphere article do you find problematic? I deleted an extra carriage return, created a "See also" section, and moved the portal to it. Perhaps you are/were looking for someone else's talk page? —DocWatson42 (talk) 03:22, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
If I may...
On the topic of thermosphere and how it would feel to be in the thermosphere.
You said it would feel cold. Alexei Leonov has recently been broadcast in a BBC interview where he said it was so hot he was afraid he would die.
The reason, I suggest, for your mistake is a confusion between cold at high altitudes and that of the stratosphere. The two things are very distinct. The mountain top is :: cold because air thins and an exothermic reaction means that heat is drawn into the air and away from the environment.
Regardless, the subject is fraught with malign influences by climate change warriors and Apollo deniers like me. So please go with Leonov's account and correct your own.
Really, where did you get that?
Also you might notice that an excellent article in the subject is waiting to be edited.
I've just realised that you probably aren't the author of this but just someone who edited a spelling mistake.
If so, can you point me in the direction of the author? Peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamie.d (talkcontribs) 17:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Click the "view history" link at the top right of the "Thermosphere" article to see what edits have been performed on it. —DocWatson42 (talk) 19:24, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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CUSACK references[edit]

DocWatson firstly thank you for cleaning up my ‘CUSACK’ writings some time ago. I wonder if you can advise on some ‘changes’ that have been made to CUSACK ? 14th June saw deletions to the Lady Joan de Cusack section for lack of references. 26th June I returned from holiday and filled in the references. 26th June saw a request for recent ‘will’ ref (which will be ‘Cusack 1981, p34’). There also saw the removal, as ‘nonsensical’ of my reference to part of Geoffrey de Cusack’s DNA being present in Plunketts and Cusacks. Has it not been shown that the DNA of Richard 111 is present in a couple of today’s relatives? Was I wrong to make this statement? Did I not have the correct reference? Finally, the paragraph (near the beginning) about a Seigneur de Cusack in 1066 was removed, because no reference was found in the named source and it was ‘not old enough’ or ‘not recent enough’ ! I was quoting from what had appeared in Noblesse de France (published 1828) Page 3, Note 1 as follows - ‘Des l’an 1066, un seigneur de Cusac avait accompague Guillaume le Bastard, Duc de Normandie, a la conquete de l’Angleterre. (Voyez Les Historiens Anglais et Rapin de Thoyras,)’ Was it correct to have been removed ? I would be pleased to know what if I should do anything. Best Regards C.Cleeve (talk) 16:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@C.Cleeve: Let me deal with your points in order. First, you're welcome. ^_^ Second, the DNA mention needs two slight changes (as in: "was shared between them, however what they and the Cusacks"), and to me the mention of the inheritance seems to be irrelevant. I'm generally unfamiliar with the topic of the Cusack family (I believe I originally visited the article to check the etymology of the name, and I have a hard time not correcting any mistakes I find), so I can't comment on their relation to Richard III. A reference or two here would be good (you neglected to include one <blush> Try looking through these.).
As for the removal of the paragraph, I disagree with Agricolae—the mention does seem germane and though I am unfamiliar with L'Histoire d'Angleterre (to which you refer in the edit in question, not Noblesse de France), I don't have a problem with citing old sources. (After all, Gibbons' The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776–1789) is of nearly the same era, and is still relevant.) However, a fully fleshed-out reference (author, year, title, wikilink and/or hyperlink if the work is online, ISBN, OCLC number, etc.; I like Citation Style 1, which tends to be an expanded version of APA style. See "Sources added to Felwine Sarr" above for more of my opinions on the subjects of reference and editing.) of whichever you are citing would be a good idea. You might also take a look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution to try to work out any differences with Agricolae (though I am not familiar with the process—I edit much more than I participate in the social aspects of Wikipedia). Additionally, it seems that you aren't the only one with a problem with Agricolae (see also here).
I haven't done much with genealogy, but I do know someone who has (in the British Isles, not France). If you have any short questions on the subject, I can relay them.
As a side note, it would look better if your user name was not a red link (which, in a user name, tends to be the sign of a spammer). Your user homepage doesn't have to be complex—as an example, see my German Wikipedia user page. Further, you might break up your text with double carriage returns. (I personally struggle with writing long sentences—I like them, and the ones I construct seem to make grammatical sense, but stylistically they are a bit weak, as they are possibly hard to read.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 08:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, yet again for your help and advice, I'm a bit past it at over 80. But look I'm now 'blue' ! C.Cleeve (talk) 22:01, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

@C.Cleeve: You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 21:07, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

A certain user, and genealogy[edit]

Hello, thanks for the message! Im on traveling mood now but will be back to You asap. Yes, there are people with certain mentality and its not easy to deal with them. I get back to You soon. Have a nice day! camdan (talk) 10:38, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, and the same to you. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 09:13, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Portals[edit]

We tend to put these in the external links section for medical articles when a see also section does not exist. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:45, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

@Doc James: I'm sorry about that. You told me about that in January (see above), but I had forgotten. :( —DocWatson42 (talk) 21:06, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
No worries :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:29, 5 July 2017 (UTC)