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Military history WikiProject coordinator election[edit]

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Preston Barracks[edit]

Many thanks for starting Preston Barracks. I hope to expand in due course, as I have plenty of source material. Within the Brighton and Hove "topic", it was a redlink that had long bothered me, but starting an article can often be the most difficult stage of writing one! Best, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 08:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Great. Good luck with this: there is nothing in the article about two world wars at present: it would be good to flesh this out. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:05, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge[edit]

Hi, can I tempt you to join this challenge? We'll have a contest for the South East and north soon! So far we have nearly 1900 articles. We'd love for you to be a part of it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I will certainly give it thought. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:11, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Royal Marine Uniforms[edit]

I don't want to get into an edit war over this situation but could you explain why you made a wholesale deletion of this section in the History of the Royal Marines article without explanation back in June. I restored the section (which was entirely my work) with detailed source references yesterday and now you have moved the entire package to a newly created article? Could you not have consulted with me first? Buistr (talk) 22:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Hi – Apologies for any difficulties that I may have caused over this issue as well as any lack of consultation. Back in May I conducted a major clean-up of the "History of the Royal Marines" article, (which had been tagged for over 6 years as having "multiple issues"), added numerous citations and removed quite a bit of material which was uncited. Subsequently, in July, a discussion took place about transferring some of the material to a new article on Uniforms of the Royal Marines: the discussion can be found at Talk:History of the Royal Marines#Uniforms section. I was not the editor who suggested this transfer, although it seemed to make good sense to me at the time and there were no objections to the proposal. Nor was I the editor who created the new article.
My edits of yesterday were entirely intended to avoid duplication between the two articles. The citations you provided yesterday were most helpful – many thanks. If your point is that you want to restore the uniforms bit to the “History of the Royal Marines” article, then I am fine with that: my only point is that we should then delete the article on "Uniforms of the Royal Marines". And that would probably require a bit more discussion on the talk page. Apologies again for any difficulties caused. Dormskirk (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
That's fine. Sorry if I seemed a bit grumpy. Happy to let the new RM Uniforms article continue to provide sole coverage of this sub-topic, without duplicated text elsewhere. Cheers. Buistr (talk) 21:52, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Great. And thanks again for all your good work referencing it properly! Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:07, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVI, October 2016[edit]

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10,000 Asia Challenge[edit]

Hi, I wondered if you would be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge based on Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge and Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge? The idea is to showcase the work being done on wikipedia across the continent, and inspire more people to create and work on countries which might not usually get much attention and then possibly running some contests to bring in new editors. I know it's very existence will definitely make me more likely to contribute more, I just destubbed Al Alam Palace which you started nearly ten years ago ;-) Not sure, but if interested add your name to the participants and I'll consider setting something up later in the month.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:30, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks for that. I will bear in mind. And great work expanding the Al Alam Palace article. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Oxford Research[edit]

Congrats on good ref additions.

One quibble, however: the My Science ref is misleading. The £126 M for the Oxford consists of grants, unusually, to 2 sep. NHS Trusts and BRC: £114 M to JRH and OUH at Headington plus £12 M to Oxford Health NHS Trust at Warneford further out. This town is big enough for the both... Headline was correct, but either journo/editor didn't realise distinction, or oblivious of effect of suggesting JRH got both grants. It did not. Will therefore revert figure. All BRC figure under Dept of health ref in NIHR article. PS: Newc. U. and hosp BRC gained £16 MProtozoon (talk) 02:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

OK Fine with me. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 13:11, 28 October 2016 (UTC)


Thanks for this - sorry, careless of me! Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:18, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:58, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016[edit]

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Newfoundland Station and other enquiries[edit]

Hello I wanted some advice I was in the middle of drafting for the above I understand that this command was unusual as it was a seasonal squadron that visited Newfoundland colony to protect fishing convoys of the coast from 1729 and I am aware that the commanders were given the title of Commodore Governor however the governors were not in permanent residence until 1818. We have a List of lieutenant governors of Newfoundland and Labrador and I came across this redundant stub Commodore-Governor my book sources list the post as both a political and naval office do you think it would be fine to still create the Newfoundland Station but make clear it was dual role. Also I have come across some others and wondered what you knew about them they include Commander-in-Chiefs for The Downs (1777-1815), Black Sea (1816-1833), North Sea (1781-1815), Leith (1818-1821), Lisbon Station (1808-1812), Halifax Station (1776-1853), Cobh, Devonport, Guernsey Station, Jersey Station.--Navops47 (talk) 13:17, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi - Firstly well done on your good work on the Leeward Islands Station! Yes, it would be fine to start an article on the Newfoundland Station making it clear that it was a dual role. On the other stations, I see no problem creating those either as long as they do not already exist: for example the c-in-c Cobh was the commander of the Coast of Ireland Station. I hope this helps. Dormskirk (talk) 13:24, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Many thanks for the feedback I shall proceed and for highlighting the c-in-c Cobh connection to Coast of Ireland Station I will do some further checks before going too far with the others.
Hi - I also suspect that the c-in-c Halifax Station is the same thing as Commander-in-Chief, North American Station; also that the c-in-c Devonport is the same thing as Commander-in-Chief, Plymouth. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 17:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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Trafigura - new section on diesel in Africa[edit]

Hi Dormskirk, a new section has been added to Trafigura on a report published by Public Eye into diesel being sold in Africa. Trafigura's response was published in a fair number of French-language papers – I've posted on the talk page with a suggested short second paragraph. If you've got time to take a look that'd be much appreciated. Many thanks. HOgilvy (talk) 19:00, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Reviewed and inserted. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


why did you delete my edition? maybe this link will help you: Greetings --Smegger (talk) 12:46, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi - I deleted it because the term "concentration camp" in the first sentence is very pejorative and breaches the wikipedia guideline of WP:NPOV. Also the second sentence "In this camp all refuges are concetrated wich tryed to reach australia by boat" makes no sense at all and is not sourced from the article you cited. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 00:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016[edit]

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"Fixing" redirects[edit]

RE: this diff, there really is no need to "fix" redirects like this, indeed the practice is discouraged, see WP:NOTBROKEN. DuncanHill (talk) 23:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

OK. The whole section "Sources and further reading" really needed a bit of a clean up, which I have now completed. Dormskirk (talk) 23:55, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Are blogs considered as reliable sources?[edit]

Bingo Wings keeps using a blog for his references. Is that reliable?

JessPavarocks (talk) 11:42, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi - WP:NEWSBLOG referring to blogs says "These may be acceptable sources if the writers are professionals, but use them with caution because the blog may not be subject to the news organization's normal fact-checking process." My concern with uk armed forces commentary is that it does not appear to be written by a professional journalist from a news organisation. Rather it is a self-published source which is not acceptable under WP:RSSELF. I hope this helps. Dormskirk (talk) 20:24, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. The author of that blog fails to cite his sources and likes to make threatening comments as well.JessPavarocks (talk) 09:22, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


Can you fix the table for me? Thanks JessPavarocks (talk) 12:47, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Done. It only needed a tiny tweak. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:37, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!JessPavarocks (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017[edit]

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London Regiment[edit]

I've removed the Christmas news message which says nothing about the transfer of companies to PWRR or the RIFLES. Just to let you know.

JessPavarocks (talk) 02:24, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 17:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


I should have removed "former" at Geoffrey Biggs... don't know what I was thinking of... maybe not much. Thanks for cleaning up after me. Andrewa (talk) 21:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


Hi, as someone who has been very helpful in tidying up the RELX Group page I was wondering if you could give us your thoughts on possibly editing down the length of the 'Controversy' section on that page? Obviously as an employee I'm wary of suggesting anything that could be seen as whitewashing, and that's certainly not my intention, but that section is quite lengthy and all of the subjects are a number of years old now. Do you think it would be possible to remove some of the finer details which really aren't terribly relevant any more, to shorten the paragraphs? My main concern at the moment is that having this large section makes RELX Group appear to be quite a controversial company which, in the grand scheme of things, it really isn't. I'd be interested to hear what you think. Thanks Ryoba (talk) 15:18, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I would steer clear of that if I was you. It might stir up a hornet's nest and attract more adverse media attention for the company. But that's my view. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

British Army & Iraq[edit]

I believe they are back in Iraq as part of Op Shader. Whether it is considered as British Army base is another matter but too busy to find source. At best, think it is British troops in an Iraqi base for training them.


JessPavarocks (talk) 08:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

OK will bear in mind. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 19:44, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Trafigura - some updates[edit]

Hi Dormskirk, there are a few things that could do with updating in Trafigura – see here for a marked up userspace draft.

  • Infobox: Name correction to Trafigura Pte Ltd plus some up-to-date stats.
  • Intro: Name correction plus the registered office is now in Singapore so it should really now be called a Singaporean company.
  • Investments: The Ferrocarril del Pacifico project isn’t going ahead as they’ve now pulled out of that investment (see here, in Spanish), and they’ve recently taken a stake in Essar Oil in India.
  • Bond issuances: They’ve doubled the size of a 2014 Samurai loan.
  • Activities: There are a few updates on trading volumes as well as on tankers – they’ve now sold their last remaining tankers so are no longer in that business.
  • Corporate structure: Galena is now based in Switzerland, and Lord Strathclyde is still on the Galena board and hasn’t stated that he intends to stand down – that’s been there for a long time and is left over from the first time he stepped down from the board.

If you could take a look and let me know what you make of these changes that’d be much appreciated. If you're happy with them, there's a clean version on the talk page of this draft. Many thanks. HOgilvy (talk) 12:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi - I have applied the clean version. Well done on making the update so easy for me. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi, that's great thanks very much. HOgilvy (talk) 22:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017[edit]

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Admiralty department navigation template[edit]

Hi hope you are keeping well? I am drafting a navigation template based on the broad structure of the admiralty when it existed and I as wondering if you could take a look at it and give me some constructive feedback found here User:Navops47/sandbox3 many thanks.--Navops47 (talk) 06:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi - It looks fine to me. Good job! Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

do not undo my edit[edit]

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please leave the edit I did on the page he is my family not your and i want the edit left! if you would like to ad references go ahead but leave the edit alone CMS02 (talk) 21:02, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I have as you requested, added the references for you. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

with all due respect sir your information is not current and not accurate, Bill Leach was the Chairman of the Board of the Museum of Canadian History not the War Museum the War museum is part of the larger what is now known as the Museum of Canadian History, I have attached a reference for you

I am simply trying to respect my father last wishes he did not create this wikipedia page someone who he did not know created the page out of respect for my late father can you please update the page so it is accurate and save me some hassle. Kindest regards thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CMS02 (talkcontribs) 00:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

OK. That's very helpful. I have now made the link to the Museum of Canadian History. Let me know if there are still any issues with it. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 00:27, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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Will do. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2017 (UTC)