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DYK for Austin Church[edit]

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Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK for John Dwight (manufacturer)[edit]

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Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Dimitri Navachine[edit]

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--IronGargoyle (talk) 19:53, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Modern Gothic cabinet[edit]

I understand that you're trying to help, but some of your new additions make me want to tear my hair out. Pabst never made another piece like this one, that we know of. The Brooklyn Museum exhibition cabinet and one at the Munson-Proctor Institute are related, but nowhere near MMA's in terms of scale or complexity of decoration.

This was not attributed to Furness because he was on the client list. Actually, it was the architect's brother Horace who was on the list. Furness designed and Pabst manufactured a vast suite of Moorish bookcases for Horace's library (documented in Furness family papers). Some of these are at Penn, others are a promised gift to MMA. Furness later designed and Pabst manufactured a desk for Horace that is related to the bookcases (Furness's drawings survive), now at the Philadelphia Museum of Art.[1]

The Modern Gothic style in the U.S., especially the heavily architectonic version interpreted by Pabst and a couple other Philadelphia designers, lasted only about a decade and few major pieces are known. This cabinet was nowhere near to Pabst's "normal pattern of design." At the same time he was experimenting in the new style, my impression is that the bulk of his shop's output remained more traditional Renaissance Revival. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Circa 1877-80 are MMA's current dates for the cabinet.[2] I suspect they changed because Furness's Provident Life & Trust Building wasn't completed until 1879. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:48, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Sorry I was so severe. In Pursuit of Beauty: Americans and the Aesthetic Movement was published 30 years ago. More recent scholarship has superseded some of its (overeager) conclusions. Thanks. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


DYK nomination of Robert Logan (naval architect)[edit]

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Template:Did you know nominations/Time to Get Tough[edit]

  • This is my latest DYK review. If you choose to use it as a QPQ I would be honored.-- User:7&6=thirteen 15:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
User:7&6=thirteen - Thanks! Just did the DYK nomination for SS John Sherman. -- Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your review[edit]

Thank you for your review of Terrorist Recognition Handbook.

I really appreciate your taking the time to look over the article !

Sagecandor (talk) 18:54, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Doug, thank you for your review of Think Big and Kick Ass ! You kick ass ! Sagecandor (talk) 00:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for all of your multiple reviews of my new article writing efforts lately ! Sagecandor (talk) 16:48, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: Thanks! Your articles trump them all.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. If you look at article case studies including The Case for Impeachment and Why We Want You to Be Rich -- I think you'll find I'm dedicated to writing high-quality new articles for Wikipedia, regardless of the topic, simply dependent on what the reliable sources say about the subject itself. Sagecandor (talk) 17:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: That's the way to do it = then you can start collecting DYK Award Ribbons = I'm aiming now for my 500 DYK medal ribbon. Just keep doing what you are doing = as you have them all trumped by the way you write your articles that is EXCELLENT!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:55, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. 500 that is impressive ! Yeah I've slowed down a bit lately after feeling harassed from this issue. I'll probably get back to writing another new article sometime soon. Sagecandor (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: As you can see by my DYK nominations, I have been writing articles pertaining to carferries lately.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Interesting ! Keep up the great additions to Wikipedia ! Thank you ! Sagecandor (talk) 23:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: This is my latest article. I welcome any tweaks. I will be nominating for DYK in a couple of days = probably something to do with the nation's only floating zip code that he started with his vessel mail system in 1895.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Doug, currently I'm making efforts to improve quality of Whataboutism, so far from previous version to expanded version so far. Unfortunately, doesn't look like it will qualify for DYK. What do you think of the article improvement, so far? Sagecandor (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: Very nice heavy duty article, on a subject I know nothing about (except for Trump). It looks like you are trying to make a 5 times expansion. As you know, that would have to be done in 7 days. I think the article was somewhere around ~4k some seven days ago - so, would have to be 20k to qualify. It looks like it is around 12k. If I am wrong on this, let me know. I have what is called a "Harv Error" detector "app" that I got from the Wikipedia Help Desk a looooong time ago. Your article shows these Harve Errors. The Harv Error detection "app" comes with special instructions from the Help Desk. It automatic after installation and I use it detect Harv Errors. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I tried adding "ref=none", did that fix it? Sagecandor (talk) 21:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: Yep! All clear on the Western Front.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:00, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Hopefully... Sagecandor (talk) 22:03, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Support the reviewing barnstar! - Sagecandor, how is the GA review of The Fountainhead doing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt:Thank you for supporting the reviewing barnstar ! As for the other thing, I'm taking some time to look it over after a bit of a shock to the system of stalking and harassment. Will post up a review in a while. Sagecandor (talk) 22:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I avoid the AE corner whenever I can, close to 2 years now, not even watching. DYK that I nominated The Fountainhead after the last review, and would like to close that chapter? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
You nominated it for DYK or GA ? Sagecandor (talk) 22:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
DYK, of course ;) - as the reviewer, you should know who nominated it for GA, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I see that appears to have been closed months ago back in 15 March 2017. Sagecandor (talk) 22:29, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Do I have to go into details about why? Do a proper GA review, and it can be revived. Or - if you don't want to do the review - let someone else do it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Please don't use the command form of grammar with me, thanks! Sagecandor (talk) 06:36, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
English is not my first language, sorry for lack of subtlety. I didn't mean a command, but pointing out a conditional clause: If you do ... - it can be revived, also if someone else does. I haven't seen a GA review announced and then not begun for a such a long time, that's all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Alright, thank you. Please understand I was a bit mentally slowed down due to recent stalking and harassment. Sagecandor (talk) 08:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Alright, hope the condition gets better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Logan (naval architect)[edit]

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Alex ShihTalk) 00:02, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Mario Peruzzi[edit]

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Alex ShihTalk 12:01, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


Picture perfect[edit]

  • Doug - This is Wingerham52. After a few years absence I am back at it. I was wondering if you could answer some questions I have about posting photos. If not, who would be a good admin to contact? Thanks --

Wingerham52 (talk) 13:43, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Doug - I don't know my count, but I should have over 800 pictures I have uploaded on Commons. I have been working on the National Register of Historic Places and Michigan Historic Places for over 3 years. I have been filling in the pictures that are absent.
  • I actually have several questions:
1. What is the mechanism for having more images in the box. I see the pointer called |commonscat= in the edit page. If you click on the shortcut, you can have from one to lots of pictures of the same building.
I am a little stumped on the question. I know about Categories - different pictures of the same subject, like my Floating Post Office. A "Category" of many pictures of the same subject is encouraged. I used that in my recent article I created on John Ward Westcott towards the bottom.
2. What is the rule for replacing someone's picture? I have done this with permission to replace an old postcard picture with one that was of the real structure. The one I was wondering about has a picture taken about 100 years ago. I respect other's contributions, so I don't want to ruffle feathers. I also have much better photos of some places than what is placed there. I know it is not a photo contest and I respect the first come, first credit philosophy.
I would say NOT to replace another's picture of something, unless it is a sharper exact picture (i.e. crop) of what is there already = in other words, to make their picture clearer. Likely they are already using it in an article, that perhaps they created = so they want that EXACT picture. I would say to just upload your higher quality pictures of the same item into the existing Commons category. An example of this is if you have better pictures of the Wescott II mailboat, just add them to the Category already provided of this mail-boat (Category: Floating Post Office), but DO NOT replace any of the pictures I already uploaded (as I am using those in my article I created). The old postcard picture you mention was originally uploaded (probably) because it was the only one available at the time as a copyright free picture of the item. Leave all Commons pictures = Wikipedia has unlimited storage ability and can store an unlimited amount of pictures. Look in the Wikipedia article to see where your picture would be a good fit. If you have a particular article in mind, give me the name = I can then give you further on this. I have 10 years experience and thousands of pictures = don't have any problems with anyone on any of these, so what I am doing on pictures must be acceptable to most editors (as I have no complaints). There is no first come, first credit philosophy = just the philosophy of what is the most appropriate picture in the article (at that part of the article). There is no such thing as better quality = only what is most appropriate for the article (many times a 100 year old picture is better). IF anything, I would say that the person that originally created the article and has the most contributed to the article = is the one to respect their wishes of what they think is the most appropriate picture for their text created. Ask me a couple more questions on this, so I get your point.
3. I have noticed that some of my pictures have been removed from the listings. One of these was a private residence, that is listed as a MI Historic Place. Another was a church. Does someone see the edit when a picture is removed.
When you say "removed" = do you mean removed from the Wikipedia article? Can you give me the name of the article you are talking about? Others (the world) sees all pictures in the Category of pictures for that item, when they click on "Wikimedia Commons has media related this item". IF an Administrator removed a picture, it probably was for a good reason = so don't put it back. Can you give me an example of what you are talking about?
As a side note. I was attempting to take a picture in Coldwater of a boy's school. What I didn't realize was there was a state prison behind it. I got stopped and almost arrested with a felony. There was an hour of contact with the authorities. After that, I got the hell out of town. My most exciting thing. -- Wingerham52 (talk) 19:36, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Sounds like you are a professional photographer - yes? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:40, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Wingerham52: Don't be shy = ask me some more questions and I will give you answers from my experience of almost 500 DYK articles. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:40, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Doug - I knew an admin was going to get involved. His handle is Andrew Jameson. He has also been a big contributor to doing pictures of historic sites. So, I asked him the same questions, I asked you. After his response, I did overwrite previous photos and he knew it right away. He must have some kind of alarm that tells him when neophytes like me edit listings. After seeing my overwrites, he gave me his blessing. However, he doesn't have a clue on how to post more images on these pages. If you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Michigan and scroll down, you will see a primary picture and then some of them have "more Images". I don't know how this works. I have quite a few places I would like to do this. Sometimes, one picture is not sufficient to show everything. So, if you don't know, who does? No, I am not a professional photographer. I have been taking pictures since I was 8 years old. Had a darkroom in my parents basement. I never thought I could make a good living doing it, so it has always been a hobby. I have more equipment than I should. I have all my cameras. I must have 30 or more. So, I am way behind you on Commons. I see I only have 749 photos. 99% of them went to the National Historic and Michigan Historic pages. I have been signing my photos as rossograph since high school, not Wingerham52. I know you are in Ludington. I live in Norton Shores. I just retired. --Wingerham52 (talk) 20:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
  • @Wingerham52: Keep the conversation in the same section for good flow. Keep everything in one paragraph - and don't reply like you would in a letter. Start a reply with a star or colon (or double colon, or triple colon). No, I don't know how. But, there is a a "Help center" in commons. It is in the left panel. After you looked over their FAQs, then you can ask the Help Desk a direct question -> an expert will then eventually reply. Reply to them, directly below their answer with a start of a double colon. They will again respond to your additional questions with a start of a triple colon. Add colons accordingly or start another paragraph with a star.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:11, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Ludington family[edit]

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Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:02, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Charles T. Pepper[edit]

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DYK for SS Pere Marquette[edit]

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IronGargoyle (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2017 (UTC)