User talk:DragonflySixtyseven/Archive07

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RE: Poetry

Though I have no plans to publish my work in the immediate future, I believe you are correct in your advice for me to take it down. I appreciate your concern and I understand its merely to protect the rights to my work and I created that page sometime back before I was aware of WP:USERPAGE and the like :P. Once again thank you for your concern.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Brian Peppers redirect

Do we actually know that he is suffering from Crouzon syndrome? AFAIK that's only speculation. Dave 17:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

If this is true of Brian Peppers, then I think your redirect[1] is a possible compromise for the Brian Peppers DRV that is very humane. --A. B. (talk) 17:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Disagree. Anyone looking for information about Brian Peppers, misguided though we might think them, is not looking for information about Crouzon syndrome. Newyorkbrad 17:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I suggest we make it a protected redirect to Crouzon syndrome. The only reason anyone wants to see Peppers is because he Looks Weird, so let's send 'em where they want to be. DS 16:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC) [DRV comment]

I am acting unilaterally here; however, I am open to negotiation post facto if anyone has a better idea. [edit summary used when creating the suggested redirect one minute later]

A better idea is to wait for the deletion review's conclusion instead of "acting unilaterally." Fulfilling the desire of those who wish to see an individual of disputed notability (who isn't mentioned in the article, but probably will be soon) "because he looks weird" arguably goes against the spirit of the deletion that remains under review. We had this as a protected red link, and now it's a blue link that can be used to extend the disgusting ridicule to a medical condition that Brian Peppers might or might not have (in the interest of placating the gawkers). I doubt that this is what the contributor of this child's photograph had in mind. —David Levy 17:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I undid the redirect, not because I think it's a terrible idea that must be squashed, but because there's no clear reason to believe that Crouson is what Peppers has. According to the Snopes article, it might be Apert syndrome or Crouzon syndrome, but nobody really knows (except Peppers and his doctors, I guess). Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination for Bradford sweets poisoning was successful

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On February 21, 2007, a fact from the article Bradford sweets poisoning, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 19:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Argonaute etymology

Added that. Thanks for asking. --Rajah 21:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Actrapid PROD

I was trying to help out with the orphans (of which it was one), and when I tried to figure out what page should link to it, I found (by searching Google) some indication that it is apparently a brand name of insulin put out by Novo_Nordisk. However, I can't find a good source that it is still an active drug name. Originally when I found the page, the sole sentence on it made some reference to the "now defunct" drug that had been "replaced" by Novorapid. I have no idea if that's true or not, but it didn't seem a particularly useful page . . . It was my first attempt to nominate something for deletion. Do you think I should have put it in the main deletion category, for discussion? Carolfrog 01:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, thanks for pointing me in the direction of an AfD instead of a prod. The result was "redirect to insulin," which is a much better outcome, even I can admit. I don't know why I didn't think of it—but that's what other editors' input is for, right?  :) And now I'm all addicted to the AfD page, and I'm not getting anything else done . . . . sigh. —Carolfrog 08:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


Looks like your "spinning star" is "featured" (because featured symbols are shaped like stars!)! I LOVE your stars, dude! Oh, and I got a better username for you, dude! You kinda think that numbered words can also be shortened out into whole numbers (which means "ninety-seven can mean "97"), right? WARNING! You may be a sockpuppet but you might be "operated" as a bot!. Is that a cool trick, dude?
----Invader SoapEvil JokesGir's DogFebruary 13th, 2007 (UTC)

Ooh I'm sorry

Hey there Mr Dragonfly, I actually thought it was pretty good, and who's to say when a myth or legend has a starting point. As it goes I didn't write it that was my mate, he write's comedy sketches for RTE and plays for the Dublin stage, most people like his stuff. Anyway we've bounced over to Uncyclopedia take a look [[2]] we promise not to misbehave again. EddieLu 12:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sweet Surname

An editor has nominated Sweet Surname, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sweet Surname and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 14:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

On Alice

Hey, how are you doing? Could you have a look on the Alice_de_Janzé for any suggestions for improvement? Do you think it can be rated as a B-class article? I hope I'll make it GA someday, I'm still working on it and researching for new information. Xanthi22 00:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Svalbard and Jan Mayen

Thanks. That's the first time I've seen the participants complimented for a good job in a deletion debate. :) Regards, Newyorkbrad 19:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Colin Angus (explorer) page protection

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to contact you. It is my understanding that Living Person Biographies must include "high quality references, particularly about details of personal lives. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just highly questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately, and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, and user pages." Because of repeated edits that violate this regulation, I have requested page protection. However, you have reverted the page to a version that includes poorly or wrongly sourced information. Furthermore, it is clear from the edits that the intention is to negatively portray this individual and that the editor does not have a neutral point of view. I would ask that you consider changing this biography accordingly. Thank you. Mustang13 16:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Happy Spread-the-funny and-slighty-random-love day!

:) pschemp (talk) 01:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

About Image:2005-Clark-PM.jpg (OTRS access needed)

I would like to delete this image because it is on the Commons, but I do not know which GFDL tag is correct (Do we need to keep disclaimers or not?). Could you please access the OTRS and find out which version of the GFDL should be used on this image, and then tag it with the correct GFDL tag on Commons and delete the one here? If disclaimers are required in the email, the tag on the Commons to use would be {{GFDL-en}}. Thank you. Jesse Viviano 23:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


I'm glad you like the template. After no response for so long and no one messing with the template, I figured no one cared. Remember 23:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Essjay DYK

I'm sorry you feel that way. Do you think you could elaborate on how it was an inappropriate nomination? It met all the criteria for a DYK, and it was selected by another administrator for inclusion in the template. I do think that your minor wheel war to remove it from the template was completely inappropriate and out-of-process. Do you care to explain your actions in this matter? M (talk contribs) 22:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


Quotiation marks are for quotations, not for quoting something and then changing it in favour of yourself to make a point.

I shall demonstrate by quoting from your user page

"I've got Proofreader's Eye, and a predisposition to rewrite other people's sentences for elegance." - oh a relevant quotation i think?

You know exactly what I mean. I will have you know that this book means a lot to some people.

Smellysocks 23:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Prank New messages header

I agree, that's why I've asked an admin to delete it and the page to which it leads with protection against recreation.  ~Steptrip 02:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed a comment

I don't know what that comment I just removed from Talk:Richard Kyanka was all about, but it didn't belong there. -- zzuuzz(talk) 03:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

For the record...

...a poor idea, especially in light of the recent findings in the Brandt ArbCom. Keep it i mind in the future. Thanks. --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Endorse - Bah. Nobody wanted to delete it, including the nominator. Except one guy who was mistaken about hit count. Appropriate close. 18:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Delete Review for Dead Oceans Entry

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Dead Oceans. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.BenA 14:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Hairy ball theorem

Amusing, but let's keep things serious [3]

Aww, crap. Shouldn't have called attention to it by listing that image for CSD. :-)

PS: The username was a ref to The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight. That in turn might have been a reference to Johnny Hart, but I'm not aware of it. So I am curious, what did you think it was referring to?

Cheers, --anon 18:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Sami Yousof

are you sure that the email you received is from himself? how did you verify that. (just for curiosity) and another person in Talk:Sibel Edmonds says he is the husband of that person and gives some claims, how we can verify that?. cheers, --Pejman47 17:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks, and please see the talk page of Sibel Edmonds, maybe it is a similar situation. --Pejman47 18:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi i am from the sami yusuf disscussion, and I would like to know why would Sami Yusuf email you and say that he does not consider himself iranian, and secondly we need proof to blieve your claim. Thank u


Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 18 March, 2007, a fact from the article Otto Orseolo, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 10:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


I request that you will please unban the User:Jesterjokes2 because Ak-47ck got us all in troble being idiotic the ip adress is on the acoout name please and tank you leave a message on this account--Jesterjokes4 23:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


Sorry - I can't remember the context where got that wrong! Could you remind me? In any event, I'm sorry for the mistake. I'm sure that no offense was intended - I'll make sure I correct my blooper (as soon as you remind me where and when I made it). Thanks --Spartaz Humbug! 20:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Email from Commons

Thank you for forwarding on the email from the Ausstellungsprojekt Globalisierung Museum für Kommunikation, concerning the Image:BigMacAustralia.jpg . I appreciated it. Regards --Golden Wattle talk 23:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit to your user page

I know it's bad form to edit another user page, but I reinstated it after it was blanked by User:Cosmic_Larva. I hope you don't mind. LeeG 00:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Attn Humourless Prat

Freedom of Speech is a bitch, I can say what I want on my profile.

Get a sense of humour, who the hell are you to dictate what I can and cannot say? You want to talk about Nazism, there's a great example.

But since apparently as a Wikipedia member I am entitled to remove anything that could be construed as Offensive, well I'm afraid your entire user page was pretty hazardous to my morale, you can spend three seconds reverting it if you'd like, I'll spend that time healing the emotional damage your user page endowed me with.

Seriously kid this is the internet, get a sense of humour and grow up. Cosmic Larva 00:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright evidently Wikipedia's bots are more willing to fix your page than I am to keep changing it so forget that, it was prety immature of me any how. Look, my main point is, my page wasnt hurting anyone, no one was offended by it, and if they were they bruise too easy, so who are you to assert yourself and remove it? Frankly it's pretty high and mighty of you. This is Wikipedia, it's a national joke, yeah I love to use it for stuff I'm interested in, but for god sake, there are so few things that really MATTER in this world, and frankly this issue from your standpoint is not one of them.

I'm only forcing this issue because I am an avid believer in free speech, a right I hold which you're now trying to strip me of, and that is something I'm willing to fight over, does it mean that much to you, or will you show you're the bigger man and just drop a petty squabble that you brought on yourself? Ball's in your court. Cosmic Larva 00:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

PS - Apparently Wikipedia bots also delete user comments? Eh w/e, you can reply if you want to, try to have me banned, what ever you do it's your call. I've said what i had to say.

PPS - Turns out someone deleted it by mistake, but my point stands. Cosmic Larva 01:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD discussion

List of Marvel Comics endearments has been nominated — unfortunately, I believe — for deletion. As a contributor to that article, you might want to comment, pro or con, at its "Articles for Deletion" discussion. --Tenebrae 05:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Tzuriel Refael

I did read the bbc link [4] and the other links on the page - none of them support your claims - naked in bondage gear is the strongest language they use, they don't even mention a bra, you should provide a direct link to the information you have added sbandrews (t) 11:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Username block

Just a heads-up, I saw that you blocked a user with a non-Latin username - these usernames are allowed per WP:U (they're just encouraged to transliterate their sig) - see this paragraph. We had a discussion about this at WP:RFCN last week in regards to a Cyrillic name. Cheers - RJASE1 Talk 14:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

"Don't try that sort of shit again"

Your vulgarity is neither appreciated nor professional. 18:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

If u ever try to block me or my friends ever again I'll get the government to bomb ur armyless country.... USA, USA, USA, USA, USA

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar

WikiDefender Barnstar.png The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thank you for noticing, and commenting about, what seemed to you like a user creating lots of sockpuppets (even though in fact it was a user legitimately helping other users get accounts). Od Mishehu 12:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Protected delete of Trocky

This user has created it at least four times with four different admins deleting it. Please consider a Protected Delete. Thanks, Ronbo76 04:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Upgrading needed

Thanks... nice edit. :-) Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 04:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


I think we should leave the Funny DYKs up until noon EST April 1.

Put up the serious stuff afterwards. DS 03:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

They're not funny. It's April Fools Day, but we're a real encyclopedia. The day that Britannica or Encarta put up jokes then we can. —METS501 (talk) 03:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

the word onay

you recently deleted a post i had put up of the word onay. i was wondering if you could leave it up. i made it for my girlfriend, the word has meaning for us. so i just wanted to know if it would be possible to get it back up.

04:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Why did you block me?

Why did you block me and call me a jerk?

I hadn't done anything wrong at all, and I wasn't even warned! -- Fyslee/talk 23:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I have replied on my talk page. -- Fyslee/talk 23:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Nash-related articles

I've finished the latest set of articles. MadMax 19:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Personal comments in block messages

Hi there. I'm just a little curious as to why you are making personal comments in block logs, such as and at I thought the idea behind blocking was to prevent abuse to Wikipedia, rather than to punish. There are, however rare, cases of vandals who return to Wikipedia as valuable contributors, and perhaps a neutral message in the block log would be more productive?--Xnuala (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Believe me, I'm not disputing the quality of User:Yngwie_lunchbox's contributions! I just wonder if it wouldn't be more constructive to use something like "persistent disruption" rather than a personal attack. Then again, I've been accused of being rather soft.--Xnuala (talk) 01:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 4 April, 2007, a fact from the article John P. St. John (detective), which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 16:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

sir, honestly,it is my first time to use wikipedia so primarily, i'm really not aware of what i im' doing. please accept my apologies for not reviewing my violations and for not replying to the administrator. if you could give me another chance, i would be able to learn from my mistakes and follow your rules this time. By the way, what i am doing right now is a must for our school publication. since our website is still under construction, we need wikipedia to desseminate information regarding our school happenings. Wikipedia is i think one of the most prominent domain on the web, so our school paper gave it a try so we could give essential information regarding our school paper.

i would really appreciate you kind consideration. thanks for understanding.

Tristan m.m. White & blue Staff Saint Louis University, Baguio City

Tony Eveready

I was wondering why you deleted basically all of the information on the "Tony Eveready" Wikipedia article. The information that was deleted was very pertinent to understanding who Tony is, and understanding the the internet meme that has arisen around him. I know that many, many people appreciated that article the way it was, and you have basically taken everything worthwhile from it. Please restore it to the way it was before April 6th.

Sincerely, -Jeff Hofmann (and many of Tony's other fans, to whom I have spoken)

It's all original researchRyūlóng (竜龍) 03:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

WikipediaSearch Intégration

Comme convenu je reviens vers toi aujourd'hui , suite à notre conversation sur IRC samedi.

Tout d'abord deux liens qui parlent de notre moteur de recherche en francophone:

Concernant l'intégration je me suis renseigné auprès des admins fr et ils m'ont indiqué qu'ils avaient fait des changements dans cette page là ajout de la fonction SpecialSearchEnhanced3 :

Ce qui correspond bien a une page commencant par MediaWiki.

  • Amélioration de la page de recherche v3
* Auteur : Marc Mongenet
* Sous licence GFDL & GPL


[[User:Pmartin76|Pmartin76]] pm27

Deleted Wiki On WIC Exchange

Excuse me, you have incorrectly deleted a wiki I wrote about Australian company WIC Exchange Pty Ltd. This article took me a very long time to write, and I believe I had written it according to the specifications outlined by Wikipedia. Is it that you have something against the production of an article about an Australian company? This article was certainly NOT spam, and I would appreciate it's immediate return. This is the rudest and most inappropriate action I have witnessed from a Wikipedia contributor since I have registered. Please return this article - even Australian companies deserve to have a mention in Wikipedia for the things they have done right in the past or present.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beerwombatau (talkcontribs).

While DragonflySixtyseven may have deleted the article (not a wiki, an article.) for being spam, I think there is another issue here: notability. Wikipedia has notability guidelines for corporations; the chief one is coverage by multiple independent reliable sources. I searched for "WIC exchange" in Google and got seven hits. Five of them were unrelated, one was the page for the company, and the other was List of Australian companies. I honestly think there's no possible way to write a good article about this company.
I don't believe DragonflySixtyseven has any sort of anti-Australian bias; I suggest that you assume good faith in your dealings with them. Remember, people are generally not out to get you. Veinor (talk to me) 01:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that anyone is out to get me, and I didn't mean to imply that the user mentioned previously had an anti-Australian bias at all, just that he may have a pro-American continent and mainstream bias. But anyway, that is irrelevant. The main issue is the fact that the article was removed. Whilst WIC Exchange aren't famous, or mainstream, they are a company which is making big moves in the crossing over of companies like Second Life-based companies into the real world by offering a limited licence to own and trade their online currency, known as wics. This is a company that is beginning to get as lot of attention in and out of Second Life, as well as with some of the Australian online community. If Wikipedia will only allow the publication of articles based on companies that have 'made it' or are in the millions of dollars a day league, then yes, I totally agree that WIC Exchange should not be allowed as an article. However, it was my understanding that Wikipedia allow the publication of any article about a company where it has made, and is making significant changes in the way people behave or operate on the internet. WIC Exchange is bridging the gap between virtual buisness and real business for one thing, and is for the first time of any company on the internet, providing it's merchant services free of charge. I couldn't possibly agree that they are not worthy of an article in this case. Please reconsider. Beerwombatau (talk) 04:50, 11 April 2007
Well, you understood wrong. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information; we have notability guidelines. You need to find reliable sources that have done in-depth coverage of the company. I searched for "WIC Exchange" on google and got seven results. To me, that makes any sort of article extremely unlikely; we can't use Second Life as a source (no record). Veinor (talk to me) 17:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

search engine

See MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Better_search_engine. I'm getting shouted at for changing the JavaScript. David.Monniaux 05:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

excuse me

You didn't give the article of me and my fellows a chance. In fact, there was 3 of us working on it. No warning was sent. Neither was adequate time allowed for us to request you to save our page. Obviously another uneducated, impatient delinquent. We need a wikipedia for the slightly visually impaired, slower people. We are elderly after all. Bring on wikielderly! Where people consider the needs of us older residents. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joycewalton (talkcontribs) 22:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC).


I'm flattered! I don't know anything about administering, but what's the worst that could happen? Fishhead64 01:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I think that the worst that could happen is that I end up being lazy and unproductive. I'm willing to take that risk. Thank you for the nomination! Fishhead64 03:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Find The Pint

Do you have any gewd reason for deleting my article "Find The Pint"? YellowSnowRecords2 12:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

We shall move this discussion to YellowSnowRecords2 15:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Warning on va tech page


What do you think of this version? I don't think ALL CAPS are productive in any case.

But if you really think this isn't strong enough, go ahead and change it. I just think it's important to keep WP:BITE in mind. --Random832 22:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


Listen pal, the source is each name's wikipedia article is that not clear?

The following lists do not have sources...

and that is two seconds worth of looking, youre gonna have to delete all the lists on people OR youre gonna have to back off--0001 17:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

To my dear Dragonfly

Edmund blair leighton accolade.jpg

A pearl and diamond above the sky
A guardian angel the people cry
A hero you'll always be in my mind
A brother so strong and yet so kind.

The sun smiles as you appear
In the moon you shine so near
A thousand of words can't be fair
To judge for whom I really care.

Mohammed Al-Ghamdi

For always being there when I need you,
Thank you, dear Dragonfly!
08:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Have you checked your mail these last days? ;)


An old block

Someone you blocked ages ago is almost certainly back. Would you care to deal with this situtation for us? Relevant conversation is available at Kevin_b_er 03:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Expired prods

Hello ... would you please delete these related, unreferenced articles?

The author has made no edits since creating them last week ... thanks! — (talk · contribs) 10:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Organic Unity

I am the writer of the piece on organic unity as it applies to literary criticism. It was deleted, by you I gather, for reasons unknown to me. The piece was written for a class at my university, an Introduction to Literary Theory class (as a way of ENcouraging its use as opposed to DIScouraging its use by college students), and I believe was fairly verifiable. Mind you, my goal-- and the assignment-- was not to produce an epic of exegesis which explained all complexities of the idea. However I think I did an apt job of getting the ball rolling on how Organic Unity is used when it is applied to literary criticism. Would you please, kindly, explain your actions, so that I might improve and resubmit properly? patrick.collin.arbo

EDIT: After posting this I tried to find the article on the "Articles for Deletion page, and it was not present there. Might I inquire of that anomaly as well?

Request for Elaboration

Dragonfly, thank you for your speedy and detailed reply. Would you be so kind as to indulge me with a brief detailing of the distinctions drawn between what is an essay and what is an article? Also, is there any way that I might obtain a print-out of the article screen from the short period of time it was retained on the server before deletion. I need it for purposes of proof that there was indeed an article that is the subject of our correspondance. Any other advice which would aid me in transforming this article into one that is acceptable would also be appreciated. patrick.collin.arbo

RE: Stop it

Oh so I'm not in the audition stage. That's because a date hasn't been set. But if you go to The Howard School in Kent, UK you'll find out it's on —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamesmarkhetterley (talkcontribs) 15:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC).


Hi. Would you mind explaining how that user was acting in bad faith and deserved a permanent ban? His contributions only show what appear to be good faith edits. Agree or disagree with his argument, it is not a reason for banning, especially with no warning and no reason. I believe he was unjustly banned. - JNighthawk 04:37, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You said: That user was banned for making a lot of (now-deleted) articles containing the HDDVD string, and for tantrumming about how Digg was being an Evil Awful Censor. DS 12:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Why am I unable to see any creation of such articles in his contribution log? The user himself denies this. - JNighthawk 23:57, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


Just passing by spreading some cheer--Dakota


I've unblocked User:ATLBeer because it's not a single purpose account based on the user's contribs. Inter\Echo 12:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


Why did you feel the need to delete my contribution to "stiuqxela?" I did not write the article simply as a tactic to increase my own pages rank. I actually added it to wikipedia because a) I believe it is relevant to the topic of SEO, and b) another part of this class is to make contributions to wikipedia. I can understand if you thought my intentions were otherwise, and I would be happy to remove my pages link from the article, but please put the page back up. Do you possibly have any suggestions of how to write the article without it being perceived as spam? I would be happy to make revisions in that case. I find the topic of SEO very interesting and I think SEO contests are a great way for students to better understand its use in internet marketing. This is why I feel the page is relevant. And just so you can better understand my intentions, this SEO experiment (stuiqxela, that is) has no negative impact on our grade in the class. It is simply an experiment. I still feel confident I will graduate with my degree in two and half weeks regardless of my google ranking.

Thank you, Chris Leone

Understood. Thanks anyways.


Proofreader's Eye

You have a comma splice in the first sentence of User:DragonflySixtyseven. It should be "I'm 31 and Canadian, and I am" or "I'm 31, Canadian, and I am" or if you want to do the run-on sentence thing (which I just did) it could be "I'm 31 and Canadian and I am." :P I just saw that someone had corrected the Abba P. Lerner page, and I thought that he'd had twins but couldn't remember for sure. Good catch. It had been wrong for over a year. 16:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

References (e.g. for Francis Crick)

this method seems to work:

<ref name=Obituary>''Nature'', Obituary, volume 430, 19 August 2004, p 845</ref>

For subsequent uses of the same reference, just use <ref name=Obituary/>

And of course there needs to be a <references/> tag somewhere on the page so the references are collated and presented to the reader.

It took me a while to figure all that out too!

Ewen 19:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

User:St. Christopher Spins the Meat

Hi there; this user, with the ridiculous name, is indefblocked by you. I have, of course, not interfered. But would you care to go to his page and see if you believe him? I rather think that I do, but perhaps I'm naiive.--Anthony.bradbury 00:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


Damnit, i screwed up my AFD. I did everything by the book, but it's all a red link. please, are you there? can you help me??

dposse 15:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, buddy. I just kinda panicked. I'm a n00b at doing AFD's. This whole second nomination stuff is confusing. dposse 15:33, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
You are AWESOME! Thank you so much. I'm sorry for bothering you with this. dposse 15:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure that i followed everything by the book. I think there's a glitch in the template. At least, that's my understanding from what i read at Template Talk:afdx dposse 15:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Cleanup tag on Natural organic matter

Could you be more specific with your cleanup tag on this article? This is an article created by a group of students who are learning Wikipedia, and it may have some style problems, but on the whole for a first article it seems to me well-organized and well-sourced. Students can learn greatly from the feedback you have for them or the changes you make to the article. But "this is such a mess" is not very helpful. 1013-josh 18:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Natural organic matter

Good evening. Thank you very much for taking the time to look into how to improve this article. However, I would like to know more about what you mean by disorganized. I have had people who are very well informed in this field read the article and thoroughly enjoy its scientific completion. If you could maybe leave some comments on my talk page that would be fantastic, so I can work on making this even better. I just feel a vague comment hurts more than helps improvement. Thanks. 1013-alex 06:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Useful maps

Map of Europe in 1547 and 1648. Note which country Danzig is in. Balcer 13:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

merge result


How does a merge end when no one seems to be supporting it? There is a merge proposed around Extensible Firmware Interface and Unified EFI Forum, but no one ever added any support (there are 2 people opposing it, one of them being me). Is there a process for 'killing' the merge? Jabencarsey 21:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your Message

Hey Dragonfly, I received your message and we are good. The overwhelming support that I received made up for the negative and disrespectful attitude displayed by User: Tony Sideway. It never occurred to me that a hacker would waste their time hacking passwords in Wkipedia. I fixed my password and gained my admin powers back. Take care. Tony the Marine 22:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

ANI discussion mentioning you

FYI, there is an ANI thread regarding you WP:ANI#Open informal complaint about misuse of administrative powers, concerning your block of an SPA that posted to the DRV about "the number." You might wish to comment there. Regards, Newyorkbrad 01:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

And the subject is back on ANI again today, as I have raised the issue of whether the same editor (User:AmendmentNumberOne) should have an unblock request granted after Ryulong's re-block. Your own actions are not really at issue in this discussion, though. Regards, Newyorkbrad 21:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The Purple man

Are you the purple man? There is a speedy delete on your article, and I will try to help you and your article. Just a heads up. I don't like speedy deletes, I got many of them. A.P. 21:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC) Never mind, I thought you created the article. Oh well, can you still try and help save it? I really don't care much if the article is deleted, but I think any article that is on a speedy delete should be saved, and I can't find any information. A.P. 22:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


I am eternally in your debt. I appreciate your kindness to me very deeply. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 03:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


You'll be surprised to learn this, but the hydraulic telegraph was real; I've rewritten the article for coherency and comprehensibility, and provided some external sources. DS 14:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Good. It was a matter of the sourcing that was missing when the article was created, and I wanted someone who knew how to verify that infomation to look at it before someone came along and speedied it. --Dynaflow babble 14:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

One of your blocks...

Is being discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Limin8tor. —dgiestc 05:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Ironically, you decided to block me on Towel Day. In the future, I would ask that newer Wikipedians be granted the assumption of good faith. -Limin8tor 08:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

unblock-en-l: User:Preeeemo

I see no Colbert-vandalism edits in this user's editing history. Could you please clarify the reason behind his/her block? Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  19:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Note to self from the gallery downtown

Create an article on Charlotte Nicolin. I'm in her gallery right now. 22:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Block reason of

Hi DragonflySixtyseven,

Could you please replace the block reason of (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) with "{{anonblock|Blocked at the request <insert name and email address here>}}". We just received an email at unblock-en-l from a confused person. In future, please always include the contact details of any network adminsitrator requesting the block in the block reason itself. Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


No problem, it was fun. After reading the article in the Times, it was my solemn duty as a Wikipedian to create an article about something so bizarre! VanTucky 20:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Appeal of Deletion of Waffle Fry Paradox and the associated Talk Page

I would like to request an appeal of the deletion both the Waffle Fry Paradox and the associated talk page. I don't understand why my article was deleted in the first place and especially why the talk page was deleted. If the talk page is not the place to discuss the reasons why the article was deleted where is the proper forum. Please direct all further discussion on this topic either to my talk page User_talk:Cleggett or to the article's talk page. Thanks.

Re: Waffle Fry Paradox

You have obviously been a Wikipedia member/contributor for much longer than I have but, I am curious why you decided to delete my Waffle Fry Paradox article citing "silliness". What specific part of the Wikipedia:Deletion policy did you consult to make your decision?

Regarding the subject of the article, the phenomenon has been long known in my extended circle of friends. I have been talking around and we can trace its origin back at least 5 years. While not the most important article in the wiki, I feel it has a place.

Perhaps if I had written about a comic book, music band, or something else you have an interest in you would not have been so quick to delete.

--Cleggett 10:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Because it's not really well-known outside your circle of friends, I'm assuming. Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day. Also, calling other editors a 'chode', like you did here, isn't a good idea. It tends to undermine our assumption of good faith, and creates ill will against you. Veinor (talk to me) 14:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Czech puppeteers?

The person creating the articles is User:Aussiebrisguy avoiding a block. The sockpuppets are extremely transparent. I have told him repeatedly that he can recreate his articles when his block expires. I don't question the legitimacy of the subject, but he needs to stop avoiding his block. Also, (this has nothing to do with my reason for deleting them, just fyi) I haven't checked the texts yet, but it's possible that some are copyvios as he has also been posting copyright violations. Sarah 14:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess there is the answer. "I haven't checked the texts yet." Is it normal for an editor of wikipedia, not just an administator, to remove entire articles without reading the text? This would seem like deliberate vandalism and then looking for some way to cover her tracks with copyvios as an excuse on articles she has not even read before removing. She seems extremely ignorant. I noticed, among the many articles removed, that she removed an article on Richard Bradshaw OAM, an outstanding Australian puppeteer and the article now reverts to the Canadian Opera Company which has nothing to do him. How ignorant is that I ask you? This is just one of many cases. It makes you wonder how many other articles from other wikipedia users she has removed without even reading? I have reverted her vandalism on the 'puppetry' wikipedia page where she removed the names of a great many puppeteers. She has removed the entire pages on these Czech puppeteers. 144.138.69138 03:03, 01 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, please. I never said I hadn't read them. I said I haven't checked them for copyright violations. Not doing copyright scans and other copyright tests to check if an article is a copyright violation is a completely different matter to not actually reading an article. Your deliberate misinterpretation of what I said is absolutely ridiculous. Please be advised that a person acting in good faith cannot, by definition be a vandal and many folks around here consider false allegations of vandalism and the misuse of the word "vandal" to be a personal attack. If you want anyone to take you seriously, I advise you to cease your personal attacks and block evasion and start following our policies, guidelines and culture. Also, I received your email, however, I do not respond to threats or attempts at intimidation.
As far as your articles go, I've told you repeatedly that when your block expires at the end of the month, you may either recreate them or an administrator will undelete them, but in the meanwhile, you are simply not welcome to edit Wikipedia. Using sockpuppets and IP addresses to avoid your block is absolutely unacceptable and any administrator will tell you that. I have been recording your IP addresses and if you continue editing in violation of the blocking policy, your IP range will be range blocked. Sarah 09:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Messages moved from your userpage

Vandalism of large number of articles on Puppetry

I have noted your valid criticism of Sarah who has repeatedly removed entire articles on puppetry from wikipedia. Doesn't this amount to vandalism? What can be done to restore the articles and prevent such large scale vandalism in the future please? 02:25, 01 June 2007 (UTC)

Further information on Vandalism of articles on Puppetry

Thought you might like to know that the following articles were completely removed by vandal Sarah :

This would appear to be a major case of vandalism and depriving wikipedia users of the right to obtain information on all of these puppeteers, puppet companies and a place of higher learning in the Czech Republic. One wonders how many other valid articles she has vandalised lately? Her repeated ignorant actions in removing so much information makes wikipedia look very poor indeed. 15.26, 01 June 2007 (UTC)

DragonflySixtyseven, I've just moved these messages from your userpage where User:Aussiebrisguy seem to have been leaving them in error. Also, I shall be sending you an email shortly. Cheers, Sarah 09:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I wonder whether Sarah has restored the pages she so wantonly vandalised as yet?

Thanks for your message, DS. You are absolutely spot on. I have no objections whatsoever to the subject matter or the articles themselves (assuming, of course, that they aren't copyvios) and, as I've told Aussiebrisguy several times now, he is welcome to either recreate them with his primary account or ask an admin (I'd be willing to do it myself) to restore them once he has sat out his block. Also, just to clarify one other thing, he complains above that I reverted Richard Bradshaw to a redirect to the Canadian Opera Company, which he claims the person has no connection with. In fact, there are two Richard Bradshaw's, the one he's talking about and another who is an extremely notable conductor who is the director of the Canadian Opera Company (his bio) and so the redirect is valid. When Aussiebrisguy's block expires, he can create a different article for the Australian puppeteer, while the main page should probably become a disambig. Anyway, thanks again for your message, I appreciated it. Cheers, Sarah 09:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


I have saw in your editing history lots of vandalism. I think that Wikipedia should protect userpages by default so only the user can edit.

Block of BoojiBoy

Hey there. I see that you have blocked BoojiBoy. Based on your reason and comment on his talk page, I assume that it is because of the edit summaries in the following two edits: [5] & [6]. While I agree that these edits are a very clear violation NPA, I think that an indefinite block is inappropriate in this case. He has been a long time contributor, this is his first blatant violation, and he didn't even get a warning. Please consider unblocking him or give an explanation as to why an indefinite block is appropriate. -- JamesTeterenko 16:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I second that. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for following up on that. -- JamesTeterenko 19:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Closed AfD -- entry on talk page?

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Gilliard as a keep. Isn't there supposed to be a report of such an action on the article's talk page? I jumped into an ongoing deletion-related discussion on Talk:Steve Gilliard, thinking that some people were contemplating an AfD, only to find out later that there had actually been an AfD.

I made this edit to add the box. If that was wrong for some reason, please let me know. JamesMLane t c 04:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


I have been dealing with User:Marxus for the last day or so. From looking at his talk page it seems that you blocked him and had a lot of discussion with him recently. He has been writing a lot of articles about prisoners who escaped from Alcatraz and I became suspicious when some of what he wrote was contradicted in the article Alcatraz Escape Attempts which he also wrote. After some basic research, it turns out that though the people he wrote about this time are all real and probably notable, and some of the biographies are in fact completely accurate, there is also much information that is co mpletely wrong. I have corrected the greatest inaccuracies and will work on writing about the rest of their criminal career besides their escape attempts. But when I communicated with him on his talk page, he refused to respond and continued writing articles, some of which contained false information. He did not post any references, while I have references for my facts, though I have not posted them to all the articles yet. I would like to block this user, but am always hesitant to block users who are doing something even slightly constructive, so I am asking you for a second opinion. Academic Challenger 18:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for adding your input at my recent RFA. I would like you to know that I'm not anti gay. If I was, you would find the box on my userspace. I don't seek power, just more ways to help out the project. Again, thanks for your input. --Wikihermit (TalkHermesBot) 04:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

reblock user

I suggest reblocking User: Wikibully because he still didn't change his username after he was unblocked to do so. Tell him to just create a new account. Busy Bee 20:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

The Obvious

Hi there. I see you have shown previous interest in this article having argued that it does indeed meet the criteria at WP:BAND. Having read the article, I agree that yes it does clearly meet those criteria. However, the article has been tagged as failing to clearly establish notability since September 2006. Would you have any ideas of how it could be improved to more clearly show the notability of this band? Also, the article is fully unsourced and unverified. Would you be able to have any input into improving these other two problems? Possibly the claims made in the article are exaggerated and the band is not as successful as the article claims.

Thanks for any input or suggestions,Garrie 01:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

RFCN Issue

First off, can you provide me a dictionary entry that says "pimp" == "slave holder"? I cannot find one that states that? If I felt that Pimp really was synonomous with slave holer my decision may have been different. Not please keep in mind that I am not trying to be the guy beating the deceased horse, however let me provide a counter point. If a childs parents beat them horrifically when they are younger. A username with the word parent could qualify under the same rationale because they could speak of horrors and disgust of the parent. For that matter anything that has caused pain could qualify under that rationale. I understand that it can be offensive to some people, I have never said it is not and as a matter of a fact regularly agree it may offend some people. However, so does everything else such as parent or If an alligator killed a family member, that might bring back horrible memories lets ban that too. It is a fine line to walk between what is offensive to everybody and what is offensive to some people. nazi is offensive to almost everybody there is no question that would not be allowed (I.E. in the grammer Nazi). Almost anything, as described above, can be offensive to someone. The question is determining a.) what was the intent because wp is still built on WP:AGF in my opinion and secondly b.) what do a majority of people feel? I will gladly engage in discussion regarding this here. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 12:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I am also a bit concerned that you blocked based on the premise that "pimp" == slaveholder. I believe this block to be innapropriate without further discussion. I hoped that you would choose to discuss this with me before blocking him, it is nothing that another 12 hour would not have hurt to seek me out and engage in a discussion. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 12:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Might I also point you in the direction of some defitinions of the word pimp. Please note it is my belief that the use in the username "CHichagoPimp" is a noun.
  • "A person who solicits customers for prostitution and acts as manager for prostitutes; a panderer. "[7]
  • "(slang, AAVE) Man who can easily attract women; a player/playa. " [8]
  • "a person, esp. a man, who solicits customers for a prostitute or a brothel, usually in return for a share of the earnings; pander; procurer. "[9]
I have yet to fo find a defintion that equates a pimp to a slave owner. If it was "ChicagoSlaveOwner" it would be innapropriate the fact is, it is not. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

After finding this and this, it may appear I am assuimg good faith when bad faith is indeed intended in this situation. I would strongly stand for inclusion if I felt it was not meant in the derrogatory context you interpret it in. I am now led to believe that CHicagoPimp does mean it in that context. The statement, "Gotta keep the pimp hand strong. Always." as seen on his user page may speak enough for this. As of now, I now endorse your block. THis is not me agreeing that pimp is always offensive however me agreeing that this name is probably in bad faith. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Name change request, et al

i have made the username change request to move from ChicagoPimp to LurkingInChicago for the good of the greater project. now that the username will be changed, the issue should fade quickly. that said, after a few days of cool reflection for everyone, i would like to initiate a discussion with you and other affected admins regarding assuming good faith, summary blocking after being told i would not have to change a username, allowing a single user to dominate an issue on multiple policy discussion pages, allowing a discussion/debate to continue after an admin decision has been reached, personal attacks, etc. there have been strong words levied from both sides of the issue which degraded into multiple personal attacks with an obvious lack of cooperation and civility. admins would not be the primary subject of the conversation, but rather the userbase as a whole. as you noted on my talk page, i have been cooperative and polite, and i would like to explore how we can work together to encourage all users to do the same with the end result being an improved user experience. ChicagoPimp 19:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How to add pictures to articles

Last year, I asked you how I can add pictures to articles. Pictures I will have made, along with screenshots.

User:Mare-Silverus 20:22, 15, Jun 2007

How do I upload the image onto Wikipedia

User:Mare-Silverus 01:58, 09, July 2007

Common sense

Thanks for taking the time to read and consider all the drivel--it must have been excrutiating.. KP Botany 20:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


If I make not of the fact that it is fiction, can I write about it? I really am writing a book about it. Drigondii 20:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

No. You tried twice making the article, someone else tried an article creation request and it was denied. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Most importantly, we cannot have the article on your fiction since it is not notable for our purposes. The only places that discuss your fiction is your blog. We need most outside coverage of Thorlinthia (that you didn't make yourself). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Move of Danah boyd

Why have you decided to provoke a wheel war without apparently reading the talk pages? There is clear consensus against moving the article; certainly enough to at least start a new discussion before unilaterally performing the action. My recent move was merely keeping the current status quo. There are several problems with User:Ubernostrum's reasoning, first and foremost that D and B are the same letters of d and b. I do not believe that someone is referring to someone other than me if they do not capitalize my name or present it entirely in upper case, and as far as I know any legal records are case-insensitive. Names are proper nouns and as such are capitalized. It doesn't make the letters any different. Please revert this move yourself, as you've done so against consensus, against MOS guidelines, and against the actions of other administrators without good justification. -- Renesis (talk) 07:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that when you blocked User:Cyrus XIII you disabled his email. I think that new feature should be reserved for users who have been blocked before and harass admins over email. I also thought your blocking message on his talk page was perhaps more outspoken than necessary. — Carl (CBM · talk) 09:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Block of Cyrus XIII

Cyrus XIII (talk · contribs) has requested an unblock review. Based upon the fact that you were involved in an editing dispute with this user, I believe your block is problematic. I also think disabling email was inappropriate. As you haven't edited in sometime, I have raised this issue at WP:AN for wider discussion. I won't grant the unblock request on my own. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 12:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You blocked Cyrus XIII at 03:22 (UTC). Your last edit prior to my post was at 04:35 (UTC). My post was at 12:49 (UTC). That was over 8 hours without activity on your part. Eight is more than a few hours. -- JLaTondre 16:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I have now unblocked. Should there be any further problematic edits please ask for a reblock in the above mentioned thread. Agathoclea 18:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Improper Conduct

Hello all. Recently a friend of mine informed me that his account had been blocked indefinately by DragonflySixtyseven. The only reason provided for this block was, "User is an idiot". I do not feel that he should be allowed the power to block people if he is going to use it like this. I feel that his account should be banned. Thank you


Why yes, yes you very well might know me from there. DMacks 02:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Margita Bangová

Hi, I noticed on the talkpage of Margita Bangová, you showed interest in the article. This is just to let you know User:Desiphral has listed the article for deletion. I invite you to have your say at Margita Bangová. Thanks, -- 10:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The Late Drew Swinerd

Thanks. Glad to see it gone at last. It was one of the more subtle ones, I guess! Cheers, Enaidmawr 22:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Swingercast

Why is it that you deleted my referenc eot this podcast when one like Aussie Tech Head remains up?

Regarding edits to Sea pineapple

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, DragonflySixtyseven! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule land\.ru, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links guidelines for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 13:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Aussie Tech Head

Why has the Aussie Tech Head page been deleted? I am a listener to their Podcast and I was interested in reading the entry about them (apparently posted by a non Aussie listener). When I when to find it I found you had deleted it.


Taco Bell Sauce Packets

Hey, I completely understand... I did add the reference for it, however I did not know that those would be considered a "legal" issue if you know what I mean. It really was a pain in the neck to sit and do all that though, LOL. Are there any guidelines I could check out to determine what would classify as a legal risk? Hellswasteland 15:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Edits to Grass Wood, Wharfedale

Hi - please could you give me a bit more background to your edit to this article - the edit comment is a bit cryptic. Many thanks. SP-KP 10:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply; whilst I sympathise with the concerns, the information that was included in the article is essentially in the public domain, in various published sources which can be included in the article for verifiability. I'd like to reinstate it, with references, if you are agreeable to that. SP-KP 13:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the further info. I understand your reasoniong, but still disagree with your edit, so would like to continue with a discussion on this. I guess the talk page for the article is probably the best place for a discussion on this, so that we can arrive at a consensus position among editors - do you agree? If there's somewhere better let me know. SP-KP 14:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Weeweeslap username ban

the user Weeweeslap's ip was banned recently from this site, we were just trying to create a wiki article on the website weeweeslap, with numeuros failed attemts to get it back on line. WeeWeeSlap is just the nickname of the owner of the site. Would it be possible to remove the ban on his ip, and if not possible to have the same username, at lease change it? Acasperw 17:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Functional mathematics

I've got a group together to edit this article - can you please NOT delete it (Replace what you have deleted please - I don;t know where it;'s gone to Thanks ::::Johnbibby 14:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

You Deleted Daniel Patricks page

You are an ass you deleted Daniel Patricks page. Daniel Patrick is one of the most well known people in Melbourne. I used to be his room mate when just before he became the presidents bodyguard

Bulford Kiwi

Yes, the image was lifted off a military website and inappropriately uploaded as a {{PD-self}}. Britgov images are under Crown Copyright, which is basically... I'm not really sure, but "material under Crown Copyright [is not considered] redistributable under such licenses as the GFDL," so it's not a possibility. Circeus 22:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Um. does this mean?? :-/ Jayant,18 Years, Indiacontribs 09:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Well this may suggest Jade1984 could actually be Victoria Eleanor.
  1. As you can see here, Victoria blanked a message she had responded to the one Jade1984 wrote to her[10], responding two minutes after receiving them, blanking the day following.
  2. Both signed without "--" this wayFluence 00:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
  3. Jade thought I was killing myself or harming about Victoria's death due I said "See you soon". She wrote a message on my talk page saying she was worried [11] but when I replied, she never responded, just after I asked her about Victoria's real name. However, she hasn't edited since the 25.
  4. Victoria said to me she had lost all contacts, it's almost imposible she had recovered an old friend for 18 years. Although is probable.
  5. About the name matter also; if Jade knew so well Victoria, why the different names? (Mary Jane, June Anna)
  6. Jade said on her talk page she managed to be on Wikipedia by looking through Google; on Victoria's discussion, she states "so we can edit articles together"
  7. Victoria seemed fine the last time she wrote to me. There was no apparent reason for suicide as Jade says. Apparent, I repeat. She wasn't completely lonely if she had Jade.
  8. Jade joined about three days before Victoria died.
  9. They both love(d) The Vines. However, Jade has never commented about it.

These are my reasons if what you say it's true. If not, I think someone's being cruel here. If you could prove it It would better.--Fluence 00:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. It's good there are people caring for what's wrong on the wiki.--Fluence 01:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Victoria Eleanor/Jade

Thank you for investigating this matter. I thought that the report of VE's death was genuine as well. I am sorry for any grief this has caused and I do thank you for your kind assistance in straightening this out. Arundhati lejeune 02:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


  • "Peacock Words": I do do a lot of Googling looking for copyright violations--dunno why these didn't trip my copyvio radar.
  • The Mayor: (Looks around) Hmm, obviously didn't see where I crossed the line between cities whose local politicians are considered notable an those who aren't. Where is that line, anyway? Anyways, apologies for causing distress. Thanks for the heads-up. --Finngall talk 05:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


Thanks, but I use prod sometimes to give the benefit of the doubt to borderline cases. I do use speedy when I think it's appropriate and don't particularly mind when another set of eyes decides to speedy something I've prodded. NickelShoe (Talk) 02:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


I was trying to tag Ian Slater for speedy using VandalProof, and it recreated it with just the tag, because you had just deleted it. Sorry. - Philippe | Talk 20:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Appeal: The White Panthers

You deleted the page The White Panthers earlier, citing inadequate sources. This is because there hardly ARE any sources. The White Panthers are an organization recently formed to help end ridicule of white high school kids by the local Hispanic majority (70% Hispanic to 23% White), as well as just to let the white kids have some fun. Since there aren't many sources to cite, I think the removal was absurd. If I must make my article more serious, I will do so, but please reply to me explaining whether or not you will let it be next time.

Thank you,

Chris Willis, Founding Member (White Panthers) also SN, US Naval Sea Cadet Corps and SN, Naval Jr. ROTC

Kansas8990 04:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Merle Feld article

In regard to adding something to our website at the JWA that makes it clear that the text may be used- it will be difficult for me to do that because our webmaster is extremely busy, but I can give you the contact info for someone with more authority than me who can perhaps better convince you that I have been given permission to use the material. Let me know if you want that. Thanks.Mrudnick87 15:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Stereochem Jokes

Haha well met. Hard to get things past you I see. I intended to delete them earlier, but you got to them faster.

ComradeQ 13:19 (EST) 2 July 2007


The user in question removed my Discussion comment wholesale from the [Supercomputer Discussion page] twice in one day. By Wiki [definition] that is considered vandalism: "Discussion page vandalism: Blanking the posts of other users from talk pages other than your own" -Animesouth 17:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Calling Dover a civil trial

That works for me. I just wanted to avoid looking like we were trying a circuitous road not to call a trial what in fact is called a trial. Specifying a "civil trial" is just fine with me, if it addresses your concerns.--Ramdrake 19:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Can I ask why you have deleted the Mumsnet contribution? It has been deleted twice, once by you and once by someone without a name, just an ip address. I have been accused of vandalism. this is not true. My edit of Mumsnet was made in good faith and is actually a very accurate description of the place!

Gina Ford

OK, the references came back. It is not that I am deleting referenced sources, I am deleting referenced sources that talk about a totally different person. It's not enough to just revert changes, you need to check why the changes were made in the first place! I did explain the rationale on the discussion page.--Wikifuzzygum 09:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey dude, still waiting for a reply.fg 10:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The Lying Game

Were you aware that this was just restored after a long discussion at WP:DRV? See Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 June 26#The Lying Game. Please consider undeleing this and allowing Prod or Afd to take its course. DES (talk) 06:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Engaging my amazing powers of seeing into the future, I predict another DRV and a further bout of wikidrama and the whole painful thing just going on and on and on. If you had left the thing alone it would have been prodded and gone in a couple of day and the whole thing would be over. It wouldn't have hurt you to at least ask me to expand on my reasoning before overruling me. Spartaz Humbug! 07:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Nigel Slater

OK, no problems - I'll take your word for it! --Belovedfreak 16:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comments on the article's talk page? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


Greetings, According to the wikipedia log you deleted the page regarding Neowater, stating: 21:09, 28 January 2007 DragonflySixtyseven (Talk | contribs) deleted "Neowater". I am trying to recreate the page, and I believe that I can show you some scientific proof and peer-reviewed papers that demonstrate that this technology is valid and useful. Moreover, I would be greatful if you could share your vast experiance and help me design the page to suit wikipedia.


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Bruce Perry

Thanks Dragonfly for explaining why my Bruce Perry post was deleted. Posting on wikipedia is more involved than I had expected - but little by little I hope to get the hang of it.

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Bulford Kiwi

Hey Dragonfly Lady, thanks for tips, i will keep working to follow the rules - my lesson was learned. Thanks again Greg


It was not Vandalism. It really means "fuck!" in Korean. It was made for blame Moon hee jun. Break! -> 브레이크!->뷁!. There're any reason to use insult words to redirect. Check this. [12] -- -- Lanism 15:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Delete ,무뇌충 please. Both are bad redirect, too. -- Lanism 16:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually it doesn't mean "fuck." It's just one of the negative expressions in Korean language. --에멜무지로 (Emelmujiro) 15:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


There is a reasonable unblock request for User talk:News Reports: SoCal, whom you blocked. If I can convince him/her to change usernames, and add news to wikinews rather than here, would you object to me unblocking? Pastordavid 19:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


User:Roflsuma and User talk:Sumaloo are the same person. You might wanna look into this. :) He has also been attacking my userpages with edits under other IPs as you can see from my history. Also, I think User:Chias is also User talk:Sumaloo or one of his friends. User:Sumaloo being someone you blocked months ago for attacking my userpage and he is still at it with new ghost accounts and IPs. Thanks for any help you can give me. All those ghost IPs are the same person and they all have warnings. It's to bad we can't just connect them all to this single user. Also check this one out User talk: their is a lot of stuff to find if you look in the right places like all of his ghost accounts under User:Chias's history. --Buraisu 03:24, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


Ok, I just ask. How are the stats owned? I mean, anybody can take note of stats and put it on a website. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just wondering what is your reasoning? Either way, I'd probably ask the webmaster at for permission. Soxrock 17:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, second note. I do plan to put standings, prose, game logs, and rosters on those pages. Stats won't be the only content there. Soxrock 17:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Season articles

The thing is this: there are only so many ways you can give stats. If not in a table, then what is another organized way of formatting player statistics?

Anyway, I don't get why this is an issue at all. Baseball-reference is referenced in every single article. So the stats, owned by B-R or not, are sourced.

Also, an article that I've greatly expanded, 2007 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim season, has almost no stats. The only stats that are on the page are the team's league leaders in 12 categories. But even those are linked and referenced at the bottom of the page. Ksy92003(talk) 17:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes. They are sourced, which is why I don't see the controversy. If they were unsourced, it's copyvio. But I think that, due to it being citied, it can stay up Soxrock 17:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

  • No, look. Just because you cite a source doesn't mean it's not copyvio. It means it's not plagiarism. But it can still be copyvio. MLB is very very very possessive of its IP. You can't take a picture of a player in a game without permission. They own the stats, and they have the lawyers and the precedents to back them up. DS 17:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

You could take a picture, but only for non-commercial use, unless you have MLB permission, and non-commercial use is not allowed in wikipedia. Stats are ok in a way like Fuu hit 26 home runs with 120 RBIs in prose form but you need permission for full stats Jaranda wat's sup 17:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

We don't use full stats. We use prominent, known, followed stats. Soxrock 17:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Drakkoman Deletion

I saved too soon. I understand why the article was deleted. Thank you for explaining it to me. I will complete the article off line and then resubmit it.


Yes, they're all too minor. GreenJoe 20:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

They should all now be on AFD. GreenJoe 21:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Green Joe

I realize this is recent behaviour. However, yesterday he only targetted NDP candidates. -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Thornton Square

I used to live in Macclesfield, where Thornton Square is located. The location exists - it is a rundown area of 1960s/70s development, but from what I know of the place the stuff about Chicago architecture and the like (which has since been removed by User:Shimgray) is highly implausible. As a genuine location, perhaps a different tag than {{hoax}} would've been better, but I thought a substantial amount of the material in the article was likely to be untrue. Oldelpaso 17:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2

Thank you for taking the time to participate at the discussion in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project. I listened carefully to all concerns, and will do my best to incorporate all of the constructive advice that I received, into my future actions on Wikipedia. If you can think of any other ways that I can further improve, please let me know. Best wishes, Elonka 04:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


Sir im here to ask you if you could please not delete my pages such as the Charlie Figueroa pages and the other films im making. I know i'm young but i know that someday i will be in movies because that is what i want to pursue in in my career. So I ask you to please not delete my pages anymore and i will thank you dearly when i go to hollywood and become a big star i will thank you i promise you dragonflysixtyseven and i hope that house with stairs works out for the best with you! I also would like if you posted your answer on my talk page Screamking93! thank you

The Streets of Ashkelon

Hi there - well done starting an article for this, an important story (it was me who added Harrison's entry, referring to "Streets", to List of athiests, so great it has a wikilink now). I'll go through my reference books and see if I can add anything useful to it. In any case, might be worth a DYK nom if you're into that... Cheers, Ian Rose 22:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Square root of 4

If speedy conversion to redirect was indeed the rational thing to do (your edit summary, 15:15, 12 August), why delete the redirect one minute later? -- Hoary 23:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm fine

Thankx. Again, I got a good laugh out of it. Mandsford 21:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Burmese Muslims

I thought they were looking for an article specifically on oppression/persecution, especially recently, not a general article on Burmese Muslims. Everyking 03:39, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

So you're right! That's good to see. OK, now sign up for a WR account and post a correction to that thread. Everyking 12:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I suppose you think it will tarnish your rep. Oh well. I'm certainly not going to do it for you. Everyking 13:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
If it makes you uncomfortable, you shouldn't read it. Not only would you be more comfortable, you wouldn't be fretting about this error. Everyking 13:28, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Crockspot

Are you aware you put your comment in the neutral section? [13] I didn't move it as there was another comment today in the neutral section which said "oppose" but was actually intended to be in that section. —AldeBaer 01:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

pls userfy

Peter Kawaja. Thx. &#151; Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (talk) 21:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Dave Winer

I am sorry! It looks like I stepped on your prot at almost the exact same time[14] - what would you like me to do? Shall I revert to full prot? - Alison 23:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixed! Sorry about that - Alison 23:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for your helpful intervention. In my humble opinion, full protection is not needed. There are no major controversies on the page itself. Everyone is happy with it except for the multiply-blocked user Nick Irelan, who has a personal vendetta in real life with Dave Winer. He attacks the article with a varying set of IPs whenever semi-protection is taken off. Historical details available on request. Or ask User:Ryulong. A complete list of Irelan's sock puppets could be created if it would be useful, but he presumably just uses his dynamic IP du jour, so there is not much point in blocking each IP. EdJohnston 01:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


It took me a while, but I finally finished it and uploaded it. Image:Reinhardt Heydrich speech excerpt.ogg. Feel free to edit the description page all you want. Let me know if you think I should do anything else with the file. kmccoy (talk) 04:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

wikilinks at Del Rey

For edits such as this one please refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Individual entries which states in part "Each bulleted entry should, in almost every case, have exactly one navigable (blue) link. Including more than one link can confuse the reader; including no links at all makes the entry useless for further navigation." Thanks! Ewlyahoocom 06:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Category for candidates to the OPP (the one that votes, not the one that arrests)

I don't think we do. If we do, in any event, there are plenty of people who should be in it but aren't. If you want to go ahead and create/populate it, I'm sure the project would thank you. Sarcasticidealist 19:37, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

My plan

Based upon the discussion and kind words offered by you and others my plan is to do these things:

  1. Edit less than normal, for awhile anyway.
  2. Contribute less to discussion pages in the WP namespace, (save those discussions I am involved in currently)
  3. Try not to let Wikipedia upset me so much (which it does at times and my edits reflect it, i.e. I become rather hostile towards some people)
  4. Try to remember just how shitty of a school Northern Illinois University is, and that the president there is more likely to have graduated from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College than anywhere else.

IvoShandor 07:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of List of people currently recieving medical marijuana from the US federal government

I do not dispute the deletion of this article as I have found the appropriate place for my new information. However, I object to how the only reason you gave me for deleting hours of my work was "article makes me so fuckin' HIGH, mannnnnnn". If I hadn't backed it up hours of my work would now be lost. Please at least give an actual reason in the future. Haridan 01:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Adminship nom offer

Thanks very much for offering to propose me for adminship. It's much appreciated, but I'm going to decline your offer, mainly because I don't really need the tools, as I'm not much involved in newpages, Afds, etc. I also suspect that I'd have to spend a lot of time defending some of my recent edits (in a couple of edit wars protracted disagreements that I've just been involved in). Thanks again, though, it's nice to feel appreciated. Cheers, Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 09:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Alberto Gonzales on ITN

Hi, Dragonfly. I wasn't sure whether you had seen that there was some discussion yesterday and today at Template talk:In the news about the Alberto Gonzales item you added to Template:In the news. A few editors objected that the item had been added before the formal announcement of his resignation had been made; a few others also thought that it might not be of sufficient international interest. Both objections were eventually answered, the former by the official announcement and the latter by the production of lots of international sources showing interest. But I thought you might be interested in seeing the discussion, and perhaps adding your thoughts, now that it's all over. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 17:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

(copied from User talk:Josiah Rowe):
I added Gonzales to ITN after hearing his resignation announced on the CBC. I felt that was good enough. DS 17:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I would have agreed with you, myself, but there were several admins and editors at ITN who felt otherwise. I was just letting you know. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 17:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

A personal attack directed at you

A troll created an attack page targeting you at DragonflySixtyseven was recently blocked. I am writing this to let you know in case you have a wikistalker and you do not know about it. This troll even attacked me personally in my own article at Jesse Viviano. Fortunately, the attack pages are deleted. Jesse Viviano 02:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Re Your message

No, you are supposed to ask the user to provide the copyright and extend courtesy and reasonable time, not to write directly that the user "wrongly thinks that can download from internet"etc or that is obviously using appropiated material, you should keep NPOV until knowing who is the author and after asking for copyright material, not to assume things beforehand. Furthermore you should provide the claimant the evidence you used for your judgement That is ethical and correct action Vanished user 16:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

classical comics

why total mess? don't understand...still working on it Bearskin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearskin (talkcontribs) 16:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

classical comics

hmmm...incoherent? Just gave it to a lecturer in English, who declares it coherent. Honest. Could be the layout which I've changed. Looks better. Said in admin deleted because of poor redirects? confused. But it is first day at this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearskin (talkcontribs) 17:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

classical comics

could you let me know in what way you find the article incoherent? We are interested as a group of UK graduates we can't see anything wrong with it at all, and so are fascinated. Bearskin 18:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

King Kong Appears in Edo

I am very surprised to learn that you are an administrator. The hoax tag was added to the article because there is absolutely no proof, none whatsoever, that this film ever actually existed. Zero! Yet you removed the hoax tag. The link page with the image of the man in the gorilla costume with the doll is not evidence that this film ever existed! It is irrelevant. Even if the photograph is from a film, it does not mean, nor does it prove, that the alleged film 'King Kong Appears in Edo' ever actually existed. There is substantial reason to believe this is a hoax. I would suggest that you read the talk page regarding this supposed film. There is, as of yet, no evidence that has been presented that would indicate this film existed. The photograph, according to the link is from 1933, thus could not be from the alleged film which was purportedly released in 1938-5 years later. What exactly was the logic you used in removing the hoax tag? Please explain! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


I seconded your comment at user talk:Saturday. Guy (Help!) 08:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


well if you take the picture away you should at least put the normal archive picture there--Blue-Eyes Gold Dragon 16:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting my user page! Stephenb (Talk) 16:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


For fixing User:Shaneymike's edits. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 00:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


Well I've put 77,000 odd edits (now in the Top 20 editors) into wikipedia to date and have been awarded over 25 barnstars. My name aside, does this really fit the criteria of a vandal or hoaxster? Make your own mind up ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 18:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

99.9% of my edits are correct but I seemed to have a misunderstanding with this one See:

Todah is discussed a little here but it isn't a festival my mistake but apparently it is associated with sacrifices. I guess i was tired hey nobody's perfect - a little surprised it took 6 weeks for anyone to notice my mistake. Saludos ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 18:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


Good work re:User:Sdurrant. Thank you. AndyJones 19:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Vanished user

I fail to see any disruptive behavior by Vanished user after I unblocked. She seems to be following my advice to not upload images that are used elsewhere on the net; to avoid discussion the dispute she was engaged in, etc. You seem to simply be re-imposing the original block for the same reason developed at that time. I am quite prepared to block her if she starts running wild. Fred Bauder 16:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I know her prior activities were somewhat fishy, but she does not seem to be engaging in them at this time. Fred Bauder 17:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

OES - Article Deleted Without Reason

I understand that you are an old member here and you do a lot of good work. I also understand how you could MISunderstand my article. I assure you, the OES is not an invention of mine. Maybe next time you delete a so-called 'made up' article, you could do a little more of your own research. I would like you to restore the article, i spent a good amount of time working on it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oes23 (talkcontribs) 19:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I got a message from another user, who pointed me to the verifiability section of wikipedia. I will attempt to rewrite the article, this time with careful citing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oes23 (talkcontribs) 16:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Well, here is another user named "pimp." User:Cooliomcpimp I really hate to put you in the fire another time, but this one looks like a little kid, so he might be more reasonable about it. I would not rather be the one to ask that it be changed, because, frankly, I got to see some pretty disgusting user pages (one reason I don't read them) during the Steve Sims discussion. But though being disgusted is a biproduct of the web--being denigrated shouldn't be accepted on Wikipedia. Thanks. KP Botany 05:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

And thanks. KP Botany 05:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again. I looked at part of the list and now regret it. What a lot of unblocked filth. KP Botany 23:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I too have also had a article deleted for no reason. I am starting a project which I think quite a few people will enjoy. Please may I ask that you restore this article? I have so much set on this project. User:Bleeding-Sorrow —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Please undelete Kēlen

Please undelete Kēlen, or at least restore it to my userspace. The deletion discussion appears to have been carried out in indecent haste by a very small group of editors, none of whom appears to be well informed about Constructed languages. Kēlen is a work which is highly regarded amongst conlangers, as an well-realised departure from the universals of human languages, and to describe it as "something that someone did one day in school" reflects poorly on the people who did so. It may be possible to cite some additional sources with further research.

--PeteBleackley 13:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)