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August 2010

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August 2010

Information.svg Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Bill Cosby. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Twitter death hoaxes are not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Mikerichi (talk) 10:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Not funny. Clearly, this is a misguided "attack" on me for reverting your inclusion of nonsense in the Bill Cosby article, as I detailed on your talk page. Why all of your edits in 2010 have been apparent vandalism after a long layoff from editing is a mystery. - Dravecky (talk) 10:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Was about to revert that per DTTR. I have posted a note to Mikerichi and reverted his edit to the Bill Cosby page. He is either at or near 3RR, so I recommend watching the page (if you aren't already). I have also told him of that as well and have the page watchlisted. Let me know if I can be of assistance. - NeutralhomerTalk • 10:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom for Oklahoma Thunder

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DYK for Big Spring Cafe

RlevseTalk 18:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Oklahoma Thunder

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Southern Spaces

Hello Dravecky. I noticed that you reverted my removal of links to southernspaces.org . I don't intend to undo your edits (I re-removed some links initially not realizing that my edits was reverted). My position on spam is that it should be reverted regardless of its value. We in the past had removed spam from high quality sites like NPR and BBC.

Most of the links to southernspaces.org were added by the users 170.140.211.17, 170.140.213.192, 68.159.45.118, 170.140.211.186 and 170.140.213.33, all are SPA users only adding links to southernspaces.org, and all except 68.159.45.118 geolocate to Atlanta, Georgia.

If some of the links that I had removed were relevant, I would be happy if it was restored by users familiar with the articles. But because spamming is indiscriminate, it is unrealistic to undo it in a case by case evaluation. Thank you. Sole Soul (talk) 14:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

All of the links I restored were apparently relevant to the articles in which they appeared. More to the point, many of your reversions were from a freshly-repaired link to the previous, now-broken links after Southern Spaces updated the organization of their website earlier this year. I'm less concerned as to the location of the editors fixing broken links than that proper references to online reliable sources are maintained. - Dravecky (talk) 03:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

WGGH

Could you, if you aren't already looking, add some references to the WGGH page, please? This page is currently under the microscope on WPRS. We might have to get Mlaffs, you and I together and sources all these pages and get them out of stub-land. - NeutralhomerTalk • 21:26, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I would have replied on WPRS sooner if I hadn't kept getting edit-conflicted by you two going back and forth. Oh, and we have way more than 3000 radio station articles and most of them are not redirects. Don't antagonize this guy and don't mislead him. - Dravecky (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the ECs. I didn't think I was antagonizing, if it seemed like it, it wasn't my intention. I was actually trying to explain. The 3,000 number was a pure guess of the articles, so was the redirect quote. Pure guesses. I know what Virginia, West Virginia and Maryland has, but other states, I don't know. I will cool my responses down a little. Sorry. - NeutralhomerTalk • 21:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

WGGH on DYK

Just wanted to let you know that DYK is pretty well backed up, so don't expect your "hook" to get looked at for a couple days. Mine was self-nom'd on the 7th and has been sitting there since due to the amount of noms, which I guess is a good sign. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 03:52, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I'm well aware. I wouldn't have nominated the article if I hadn't found that odd bit of trivia about the new owner (and reliable sources to back it up). Thanks. - Dravecky (talk) 05:17, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Things are moving a tad quicker. My "hook" was placed in queue this afternoon, after being placed in Prep around 6:00am EST. So yours might get there quick. My first DYK. Neat! Look for one about Peter Stephens. - NeutralhomerTalk • 03:01, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

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DYK Atlantic Coast High School

Thanks for your time in reviewing the nomination. After contemplating User:Victuallers comment,
"Checked - it is the first in 20 years..... but most expensive in 20 years?? Its the first!!"
I must agree that it's pretty much guaranteed that a school built today would be more expensive than one from 1990.

But for the record, the next to last paragraph in the source cited contained the following:

"Superintendent Ed Pratt-Dannals said there is no "golden plumbing" in the district's most expensive school, adding it is very functional."
Mgrē@sŏn 02:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I confess that I missed that offhand phrasing. My apologies. - Dravecky (talk) 03:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

IAR; Webcamgate

I'm fine if you remove the hook, given the expression of consensus. Tx much.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:42, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

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KRMS

KRMS is up for deletion. The article is lacking in just about everything. No external links, nothing. Could you take a look? - NeutralhomerTalk • 21:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Basic information was added to the page. Just need sources, since that is your department (I called you the "information guru" on the AfD :)) I will leave that to you. - NeutralhomerTalk • 21:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 00:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem. Further expansion underway. - Dravecky (talk) 00:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Working Man's Barnstar.png The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For the insane amount of information you have added to the KRMS page, I hereby award you this barnstar. Well done, Sir. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 08:06, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 08:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Israel Sports Radio

Hi. You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has now been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification! Coincidentally, your note appeared as I was in the midst of creating this AfD discussion. - Dravecky (talk) 12:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for WGGH

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Question from BuzzB

Hi:

I noticed you removed an addition I had made to the page: Perry Mason (novels). I am a fan of Erle Stanley Gardner, both as a writer and for his involvement with "The Court of Last Resort". I am now in the process of reading all of the Perry Mason novels in sequence, and I find the pacing of his stories, his management of complicated plots in resolving all loose ends, and his accuracy regarding obscure facts to be remarkably excellent. I did find a few exceptions (flaws) that I think would be noteworthy for any Perry Mason fan because of their rarity among so many stories.

You reason for removing my contribution is reasonable, but it isn't helpful. Can you offer me any advice about how I might properly contribute the hand full of flaws to the Wikipedia pages about Perry Mason? The contribution I made which you removed is only the first of the hand full I intended to insert.

Thank you for any advice you can offer. BuzzB (talk) 13:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)BuzzB

(talk page stalker): While flaws in books are interesting, they are very tough to source with reliable third-party sources and without those, it makes them non-notable. What you would need to do is find someone, a book-review site, like say The New York Times Book Review or other reliable sites like that and get what they think on it. If sources are few and far to come between it becomes, again, tough to source and just original research. Hope that helps. - NeutralhomerTalk • 18:21, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
NH is, as usual, right on the money. In addition to concerns over sourcing for these conclusions and their original research overtones, the listing to which you added the "list of flaws" is a place for a one-sentence summary of each book. The place to discuss a specific novel, if you can find the sourcing, would be on its own individual article. There should be sufficient coverage by reliable sources for each of these novels to have its own article, if only a motivated editor were to look. - Dravecky (talk) 05:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both for clarifying this for me. I did not know that original research was not allowed. BuzzB (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)BuzzB

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Phule's Company template

Great template, by the way, I was toying with making one for all of Asprin's works or just the series, I guess you have solved the problem for now,Sadads (talk) 22:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I considered an all-novels approach but with so many redlinks at present it would have been unsightly and premature. If templates are created for each series, plus one for the non-series works, a footer linking the various templates together can be added for easiest navigation. - Dravecky (talk) 22:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Good reasoning, thanks again, Sadads (talk) 22:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I've added cover art to both extant Phule's novel articles, added an infobox to the second and updated the infobox on the first, plus a bit more cleanup to both articles. I'm pretty sure that more critical reviews in reliable third-party coverage can be found, but perhaps not in easily-searched online sources. You might try contemporary science fiction magazines such as Analog, Asimov's, or Science Fiction Age (to name a few) for a start. Good luck and I look forward to seeing more articles from you. - Dravecky (talk) 07:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)