User talk:Dreamyshade

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Hardware restrictions, reply[edit]

Hello, I have replied to you here and here. Cheers. --SF007 (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

One more here! --SF007 (talk) 23:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pinboard (website)[edit]

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 14 January 2012 (UTC)


thanks for the release date fix on Redsn0w --ben_b (talk) 12:17, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Wow, where did ten years go...[edit]

Hi Dreamy, your name came up on my Watchlist and I thought to myself "I know that name". So I looked and was mildly amazed to see comments at the top of your page that I left over a decade ago. You were in high school then(!) I'm sure much has changed for you since then (duh!), so it's kind of cool to see that we are all still here, and still banging away at this absurd little project. Warm regards, Manning (talk) 10:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers back. Re the user IDs, they were assigned in the order that we registered when Magnus turned on the new software in January 2002. He did this in the middle of the night (Australia time), which is why I'm only #100. (I managed to get #3 on meta though). All the best Manning (talk) 05:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hi Dreamyshade,

Thanks for your insightful suggestion. Yes, I agree I am a beginner at wikipedia, thus still in learning phase. However, I highly appreciate your kind gesture to intimate me for the frequent citation errors I was making. I will keep all your guidelines in mind for the next time I add something to any wikipage. Thank you so much again.

Good wishes,

Lisa Lisamickelson (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for attending the second SF WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon[edit]

We Can Do It!.jpg Thank you for attending the second SF WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon
Hi Britta! Thank you for participating in the second WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon in SF this past weekend. Thanks for leading the initiative to merge Female entrepreneur and Women in business. I also see you've been working on the Etsy article! Thank you again - your energy and passion for open culture and tech is apparent in your contributions on Wikipedia and beyond. Sarah (talk) 19:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Spamming/promotion concern[edit]

Hi Dreamyshade,

I recieved an email about your concern about spamming/promotion in my contributions. I appreciate your concern and would like to respond, but I am new to wikipedia- is this the appropriate place to respond? Or do I respond to Wikipedia's general email?


Absander — Preceding unsigned comment added by Absander (talkcontribs) 15:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Dreamyshade, are you guys corresponding Wikipedia concerns by email? If that is whats going on, I find it a cause of concern as it hinders transparency. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 06:47, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Nope, no emails. I responded to this comment on Absander's talk page with an explanation that Wikipedia discussion is best accomplished on public talk pages - see User talk:Absander#Concern about ConsumerLab links. Dreamyshade (talk) 07:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


Hi Dreamyshade, thank you for your information, but iEBTech is a very recognized blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylan.levin (talkcontribs)

Johnny Delirious[edit]

I've had to remove the BLPPROD here on a technicality, per Wikipedia:BLPPROD#Nominating. I have absolutely no problems with you taking this to AfD. --j⚛e deckertalk 07:01, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

reply to Afd[edit]

The purpose of Afd is to obtain consensus. Your defining of "recent" was rather arbitrary. As far as the Afds that didn't result in a deletion, but was instead, decided by consensus to not leave the article under question existing as a separate article but to mege into something else is not what I would consider "unsuccessful". Cantaloupe2 (talk) 02:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for responding! I agree that AFDs are for obtaining consensus, but if following Wikipedia:BEFORE discovers sources that clearly indicate notability, there's no need for a lengthy discussion. If you tried those Google searches and didn't find anything, that's useful information to include in the deletion nomination (I noticed that you've done that sometimes, but not consistently). I figured that a year was a good boundary for "recent", so I looked at all your AFDs in 2012 - I hope that seems fair. It's true that one is a merge, but that still leaves 10 unsuccessful AFDs compared to 4 successful AFDs. Dreamyshade (talk) 03:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
I didn't realize that there's an expected passing rate and you fail to factor the comments. At least some were decided as keep but "marginal keep". The inferred allegation that my Afds are frivolous are perhaps founded if most of my Afd nominations resulted in "speedy keep" and/or each and every respondent said and provided argument that it is "notable". That isn't the case however. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 06:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
My primary concern, as I believe I've tried to explain, is that some of these AFDs seem unnecessary since sources showing notability were easily findable by searching. I'm just hoping to encourage you to search a little more thoroughly before nominating. I agree that numbers on their own aren't significant. Dreamyshade (talk) 07:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Greenpois0n for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Greenpois0n is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenpois0n until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

I stumbled upon this article in the process of researching the matters surrounding jailbreak and noted that you've made a few contributions to it, so you're getting this notice. I've researched a bit more carefully this time, but it appears no dice on independent, credible and significant coverage on this particular software product. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 11:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for putting a good faith effort into looking for sources first. :) Dreamyshade (talk) 04:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC) and[edit]

The dispute around if these sources should be considered as reference is up for discussion at RSN Cantaloupe2 (talk) 20:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


Templates biting newbies.svg Although newbies may be delicious served with some Fava beans and a nice Chianti, taking a nibble is actively discouraged. as you did in this edit comment. WP:DNB (Undid revision 529237098 by (talk) minor experiment/vandalism) This appears to be their first edit and accusation of vandalism is not WP:AGF Cantaloupe2 (talk) 18:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Good point, I hope that wouldn't discourage an interested contributor, but you never know. I just put a welcome message on their talk page. Dreamyshade (talk) 05:18, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Lock, the key and the manner the key is presented[edit]

SHSH blob discussion here I've read through various references and have done my own research. So far I understand that the title above basically describes the functions of SHSH blob, though people over at WikiProjects Apple should know better than me, so I posted a question there. If I'm not completely misunderstanding the function, it does not appear to matter who/what hands the key to iTunes for authentication, whether be it a Java script running on a PC or purpose specific server such as iFish or Cydia that your company represent. I temporarily the prose where I felt the use of Cydia is not mandatory to talk page, so others can comment on it. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 03:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, I responded there. This is a specialized enough subject that we might not get many responses from other editors, but it'd be nice if we did. Dreamyshade (talk) 04:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

vested interest[edit]

you might call it "strong personal interest" or I might call it "vested interest" being that you work for a small company that might not have a clearly defined set of tasks and I suspect maintaining good relationship with your boss is important. As someone else said in COIN discussion we had a while back, if you're able or not able to edit with true impartiality was questioned. The owner of SaurikIT left me a long claim of "personal allegation" on my talk page the other day. Here it is for your viewing linkCantaloupe2 (talk) 06:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

My comment was just addressing the "vested interest" phrasing - it has negative connotations, implying that I have motivations other than the ones I've disclosed, and I wasn't sure whether you intended the negative connotations. I hope that we don't need to rehash the COIN conversation; I agree that I have a COI and should avoid editing these articles directly. Dreamyshade (talk) 08:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
You say its "strong personal interest", and sometime into my involvement in these articles, the owner of SaurikIT came in and left a long message on my talk page, which seems to indicate he's closely watching the discussion or you maybe discussing the edit which can affect your impartiality. I see you have been following for a long time, topics that relate to your employer. Just an observation Cantaloupe2 (talk) 02:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
He's also commented on the Cydia talk page to correct mistakes related to him - see Talk:Cydia#serious misrepresentation of Cydia and Telesphoreo :.28. As before, I agree that even if I do my best to be impartial, my COI gets in the way, so I have to follow the rules of being a COI editor. Yes, a long time - I also edited jailbreaking-related article before I started working for this company. :) Dreamyshade (talk) 02:36, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Jelq references[edit]

Thanks a bunch for finding those references! For my own future benefit, do you do anything special to find them? Or is your Google-fu just better than mine? Qwyrxian (talk) 07:50, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome; it was great to see them get integrated into the article right away. I just search Google News archive, Google Scholar, and Google Books, and I look for the names of publishers that I recognize as reputable; in this case, I searched for the term "jelqing" since it's more common than "jelq". Dreamyshade (talk) 08:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Criticism article[edit]

Hey, i don't know how much attention you were paying on Talk:Mail Online, but i've started up User:Jenova20/Criticism of the Daily Mail and Mail Online. It would be useful if you wanted to lend a hand there at all. Currently i just intent to grab some resources to see what i have and what the sources support. There's gonna be lots of work to go around if you're bored and want to chip in. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 15:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


There is a Dispute Resolution Noticeboard incident you may want to participate in concerning the Mail Online here. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 15:32, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, please give your opinion on the wording changes i made on the DRN or the talk page. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 10:50, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for your help on the Demand Progress page. Probably wouldn't have noticed your notes on Aaron's page. Teststudent (talk) 03:04, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Any input on this?[edit]

Pi Kappa Alpha and all the back and forth going on right now. You couldn't possibly be one of their brothers, so that's perhaps something you can provide perfectly impartial opinion on. After this, I might get back to working on iOS related.Cantaloupe2 (talk) 02:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Heh, thanks for asking! Definitely no affiliation. That's a big project to evaluate, but I'll look at it and see what I can contribute. Dreamyshade (talk) 06:26, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


Hey Britta! I'm glad you're brainstorming some ideas for the WikiWomen's Collaborative. I know that User:Heatherawalls was interested in writing some how-to articles for the blog. Perhaps you two would want to collaborate? Just throwing out an idea :) SarahStierch (talk) 05:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi there, Dreamyshade. Back in November you (correctly) identified a pattern of edits favorable to the company MicroStrategy by an editor ostensibly working on their behalf. Since that time, MicroStrategy has got in touch with me and asked me to look into the issue. I've read your roundup at COI/N from that time, and I agree with your observations there. Simply put, they just didn't know much about Wikipedia, and mistakes ensued.

As of now, the articles about MicroStrategy and its founder, Michael J. Saylor, are quite promotional, not particularly encyclopedic, carry appropriate warning tags, and would require substantial rewrites to address. Having discussed the issue with the company's communications team, they're perfectly happy to take the bad with the good and they would very much like for these to become proper encyclopedia articles.

On their behalf, I'd like to start doing that, and ask if you'd be interested in that process? I'll be researching and writing a better article for each, however because of my own paid COI, I would abstain from editing the mainspace entirely, and focus on preparing drafts for volunteer editors to review and implement over time. The MicroStrategy article I think is a teardown job, it just needs to be rethought completely, and the Saylor article is a bit better but not much.

If you're too busy to get involved, that's OK, I believe I'll be able to find other editors who can help. But I figured since you were the last editor to take serious interest, I'd do well to reach out to you first. Let me know when you have a moment. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 17:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for asking! It's very nice to hear that the company recognized its mistakes and wants to make things right. I'm willing to help with improvements, and it'd be great to see opinions from other neutral editors as well. I also recently noticed related edits from Special:Contributions/Rkrueger that were more conscious of the COI guidelines but should also be reviewed. Dreamyshade (talk) 18:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
That's great! I'm familiar with Rkrueger as well, and I had actually given him some advice in the fall, which is where you'll see him (mostly) sticking to Talk pages. However, on these two articles, for as long as I'm engaged in the project for them, I will be the only representative for MicroStrategy. And I'd be very happy to have the input of other neutral editors. (If you were busy, WikiProject Software would have been one of my next stops.)
If you don't mind, I'd like to float an idea about a near-term solution for the company profile. Right now, it's not only a complete mess, it's also a very long mess. MicroStrategy is eager to see the warning tags removed, but they are appropriate given the current content, and it could be months before an article of this length (4,000 words) could be fully rewritten. Perhaps instead it could be replaced with a much shorter (under 1,000 words) article that covered all of the bases, and it could be expanded from there. What do you think? WWB Too (Talk · COI) 21:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Would your idea be to propose a short draft that covers the company in a neutral way, or to suggest cutting down the article until I feel it no longer sounds like an ad? I just took a stab at removing the material sourced to press releases so that I could remove the "primary sources" tag at least, but it looks like fixing the advertising and COI issues would take a rewrite. Dreamyshade (talk) 07:47, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
I agree that a rewrite is necessary to deal with the advertising and COI problems, whether it's an article at 800 words or 3800 words. Based on my research, there may well be enough third-party information to write a detailed article down the road, but I think an 800-word version covering the most important aspects of the company's history and operations in a neutral way would be a good place to start. We can certainly reach out to other editors on this, though if this sounds like a reasonable course, I can start work on a draft to post in my userspace for review. FYI, I'm traveling today, but I'll check in again when I can. Thanks! WWB Too (Talk · COI) 12:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that sounds worth trying. (I noticed that there's lots of third-party coverage available, but much of it seems to indicate that MicroStrategy is very effective at PR - an interesting wrinkle in identifying reliable sources!) Dreamyshade (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, just a quick note to say: I've finished a draft, I've shared it with my cohort at MicroStrategy, and I think I'll have it ready to post in my userspace—much shorter, but still comprehensive enough, including the good and the bad—in the next couple of days. If you think there are any WikiProjects to notify at the same time, please let me know. More from me soon! Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 03:28, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Me again, briefly. Turns out it will more likely be next week before I have the new draft ready, so I'll be in touch again then, and sorry about the false start! Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 22:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Mail Online[edit]

Hi, i've taken some of your advice and added a compromise to the article. I've left prematurely at the end solely because it reads strangely with two "p" words straight after. Also i don't see the need for "standby" anyway, why can't we just leave it saying that they published articles prematurely? It's still saying pretty much the same thing? Please comment. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 12:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for being willing to compromise! Let's talk about the wording on the article talk page instead of my talk page; I plan to look at this later today. Dreamyshade (talk) 17:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I've been willing to compromise for a long while if the text is neutral. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 17:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

About RfCU comment from Morphz0ne[edit]

Can you explain the prose "When User:M0rphzone added support ("he does not seem to an editor who edits with a purpose of reaching consensus" "brings up any form interaction or comment that seems to discredit and intimidate the editor he disagrees with"), Cantaloupe2 responded by pointing out an edit by M0rphzone that Cantaloupe2 considered problematic." ?

Please see User_talk:M0rphzone#ANI_case and have what he said there inclusive, so that its balanced. where he said "I'm not particularly interested, since I don't want to be involved in a dragged-out incident, and I'm currently involved in other projects. I don't agree with Cantaloupe2's editing methods, but he still adheres to most policy guidelines. I think some of the guidelines he violates or is close to violating are: edit warring, WP:BATTLE mentality, and violations of good faith" If community consensus is that i violated these, it would mean the contending side has as well for edit warring and battle to occur. Not assuming good faith appears mutual as well in some of the concerns that were raised. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 16:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

My intent with that section is just to summarize the long ANI discussion for the convenience of RfCU readers, since the RfC instructions include recommendations to include context and minimize long reading assignments for outside participants. If you think it's an inaccurate summary of what was said at ANI, please let me know and I'll try to make it correspond more closely to what was said. This seems to be more of an issue with the contents of the discussion (with the fairness of what M0rphzone said), which would make sense to include in your response section. Dreamyshade (talk) 16:34, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

You should move the RfC to a live location ASAP. It's beyond the draft point now and it needs to be conducted in the open. Gigs (talk) 19:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree. I'll try to finish it up. Dreamyshade (talk) 20:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Agreed - it's probably not healthy for it to be in draft space that long. It doesn't need to be complete or perfect - just needs to summarize the issue in a way that will help get other editors involved to do.... whatever they do at RFCUs. I don't really know how it works. CorporateM (Talk) 03:42, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
This is just coincidentally bad timing for me since a new upcoming jailbreak has meant lots of work suddenly. Argh! Currently trying to trim my statement from an unwieldy length down to something readable, and then I'll submit the draft. Dreamyshade (talk) 04:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Manulife Edit / Revision Review[edit]

Hi Dreamyshade -

I have replied to your comments, and updated the Manulife talk page with the additional sources you previously requested. Could you please review and implement the approved change requests for Manulife? (at bottom)

Jcsmg (talk) 14:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

MicroStrategy draft ready[edit]

Well, this has taken rather longer than I initially expected it to, but I have finally posted a new MicroStrategy draft in my userspace, with categories and non-free logo disabled. The more I worked on it and received input from the company, the more it seemed that a longer draft would be necessary in order to cover the subject adequately. So, while my initial plan here was to get the article down to an 800-word version, what I've ended up with is a 1,300-word version that provides a fairly complete (and I believe non-promotional) overview of the company and its operations, while removing the problematic wording from the current version. In the interests of keeping things simple and making it easy for other editors to follow, I've posted a longer explanation of the new draft on the MicroStrategy Talk page. I'm looking forward to getting your feedback over there, if you're still interested and have the time available. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe I had clearly said this before, but I've also been working on a new draft for Michael J. Saylor as well, and I've just posted about it on that article's Talk page. I'm actually not asking you to evaluate this one; I think that would be asking too much of your time. However, I wanted to give you a heads up, and I plan to seek input from WP:BIOGRAPHY and elsewhere soon. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 17:46, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Cool! Taking a quick look, the structure of your MicroStrategy draft makes sense, and I'm glad to see that you converted lots of jargon into readable language. I'll review the details more closely and get back to you. I agree with asking other editors to review Michael J. Saylor also because I don't have much experience with BLP editing. Dreamyshade (talk) 09:09, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Right on, I'm glad you think it looks good, at least on first glance. If you have any more specific questions, or suggestions about changes, let me know (probably at Talk:MicroStrategy would be best). Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:34, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi again, Dreamyshade. Looks like you've been busy off-wiki most of the past week, and though there's no rush, I may seek out an editor with more time available, starting tomorrow. But I'd still very much appreciate your assistance, so let me know if you can help! Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 14:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I realize you've been offline for more than a week now, but I wanted to let you know I've posted to COI/N looking for additional editorial review, and I've mentioned you in my note. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


Hello, I've just followed up again on Talk:MicroStrategy, linking my revised draft and explaining my new changes. Since you took my original draft in a slightly different direction, you may wish to consider changes section-by-section. I'm happy to talk through any questions about it, if you like. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 20:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey Dreamyshade, I wanted to check in with you and see if you've had a chance to review the revisions I proposed to the Microstrategy article? I haven't had any responses since I posted my updated version a week ago. Looking forward to your input when you have the time; I'm also reaching out to Qwyrxian about the same. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 18:46, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi again. It's been a couple of weeks since I posted my revised article draft, and but I haven't received any feedback on it. While I'm not in any big hurry, I think by tomorrow I will start looking for another editor who has some time available to look at this latest proposed version. That said, I welcome your input on that page at any time! Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 18:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for LocalWiki[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Requesting Your Opinion[edit]

Hi DreamyShade- I am requesting your opinion on recent additions I made to the page (June 4)which were deleted, since you are familiar with the page. I added a sentence about CL president Tod Cooperman speaking at an NIH conference, a sentence about CL testing procedures as outlined by the company, and test findings which were reported in The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times. Despite having reputable, third party references for these additions - as recommended to me by previous editors - these have been deleted and characterized as "self-proclaimed notable by company's PR editor." I think the additions were quite relevant to the public interest, and , as I said, reported by reputable sources - and therefore in line with policy about content. Can you please take a look at my additions and let me know what you think? Thank you. Absander (talk) 12:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Absander

Hello, I've replied to your talk page already. I'm not disputing the credibility of source. What I'm concerned with is coatracking developing in the direction of cherry picked sources into a section that is basically "us in the media!" which threatens neutrality interest when public relations representative gets to choose what goes onto a page about their company. This company has a long history of public relations campaign attempt; such as going to the page of each type of supplement and trying to tack on the presence of for publicity. From an account that does not edit anything but something related to CL no less. There was also an incident with tampering with talk page by someone who wanted to remove something that put CL in unfavorable light. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 12:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Your user page[edit]

Hello, I found your user page while doing some wikiarchaeology. . I have restored all of its earliest surviving revisions from old copies of the Wikipedia database, so they are available to everyone now. Hope you don't mind. Graham87 13:10, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

SAS (software)[edit]

Hi Dreamy. I just started working on the SAS (software) page, a major developer of enterprise analytics software, in a COI capacity. I know you have an interest in software articles and figured it might be an opportunity for us to collaborate and rope you back into the enjoyable experience of editing with civil and thoughtful editors. I hope we can keep you around! CorporateM (Talk) 00:46, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Inverter Compressor Article[edit]

Hello Dreammyshare, Thank you! I read the links you share with me on my talk page but I am a little bit lost about the inverter compressor article! I don't understand very well how can I do to improve the article and to discuss about it with a wikipedia contributor member! I created the article few mounths ago and wikipedia contributors think that this article is promotional. But I don't really agree with that. I am open to modify and remove some points, but according to me it is an error to delete the article! The goal is to create an instructive article regarding inverter technology.. Nobody did the article before. I just want to help internet user to understand this technology..

So I need your help,

Thank you very much!

C Capucine (talk) 14:13, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Nashville pictures[edit]

Hello. I saw your great pictures of the Nashville area on Wikimedia Commons. Are you based there and if so could I suggest a few places to take pictures of please? Please reply on my talkpage.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) OK...Are you located in an area where you could take pictures?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)


Hey! Nice to meet you :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 23:11, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

SAS (software)[edit]

I've been working on this article for a while, where I have a COI, on-and-off. There are three articles on the company (SAS Institute), the software (SAS Software) and the language (SAS language).

I wouldn't mind bringing one or two of them up to GA, but was hoping to get a second opinion on a few things regarding what information should go on which article or if some things should be duplicated. For example, whether certification and training, user conferences, etc. should be on the software article or the company page.

user:Guy Macon, who was helping me and likes technical topics has no opinion and is busy in real-life. I'm uncertain as well (see post here) and was hoping you might have an interesting in pointing me in the right direction and I'll get to doing some grunt work investigating sources, coding content, etc.. CorporateM (Talk) 19:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I wrote a quick comment; I hope that's helpful. Dreamyshade (talk) 00:44, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Very much so. I wasn't really sure which way to go. I posted a short couple sentences on the Talk page along the lines of what you suggested of only briefly covering it on the Software page. I'd like to put it through the GA round if you have any thoughts on what else it still needs to be ready. CorporateM (Talk) 05:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Michele Colucci[edit]

Hi! I recently wrote an article, Michele Colucci, on a notable female entrepreneur, and I would appreciate if you would please consider contributing to the ongoing discussion about possible deletion of this article. Thank you. --Vindeniträden (talk) 21:48, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Pasadena photos[edit]

Glad to hear you appreciate the photos. I'm planning to finish off the handful of missing photos within the next week or two. Thanks for getting those photos in Eagle Rock; I always like to see more monument photos around here, National Register or otherwise. TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 10:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Logo help[edit]

I want to upload a logo for my High School but it keeps getting deleted by Wikipedia commons for copyright issues. How can't I get around this? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hallissy (talkcontribs) 28 June 2014

Redirect blanking[edit]

Hello. I see that you've blanked the redirect Saurik with an edit summary indicating that you attempted to delete the redirect. First, please be noted that blanking the page is not tantamount to a deletion. If you wish to delete the redirect, you should bring it up at WP:RFD. However, since the purpose of the redirect is assumed to be redirecting the reader to the topic which the redirect page is most closely linked with, I would advise against bringing it up at WP:RFD. In any case, I have restored the redirect following WP:BLANK. You can leave any messages on my talk page. KJ Discuss? 06:42, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for teaching me how to upload cropped photos from PD sources to Commons, the first of which has just found its way into a Wikipedia article, Transvaal gold fields. Rosiestep (talk) 07:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png I really enjoyed your new article Free and Open Source Software Outreach Program for Women, which I just reviewed at WP:DYK. It is a very thorough, well-written, and engaging article. Thanks for making my DYK quid pro quo so enjoyable! Michael Barera (talk) 01:54, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Free and Open Source Software Outreach Program for Women[edit]

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A page you started (Free and Open Source Software Outreach Program for Women) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Free and Open Source Software Outreach Program for Women, Dreamyshade!

Wikipedia editor Sumanah just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

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Amy Tan Award[edit]

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Thank you for participating in the First Annual Litquake Edit-a-thon on October 11, 2014 in parallel with Litquake, the San Francisco Bay Area's annual literature festival. Your content contributions and community collaboration helped make the event a success, and are appreciated! Rosiestep (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]


Thank you so much for your kind help with the Leslie Harpold article! Very much appreciated as I am just getting my eyes open as a Wikipedia writer. :)

MetaGrrrl (talk) 22:40, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Leslie Harpold[edit]

Harrias talk 12:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You're the best, Dreamshade! MetaGrrrl (talk) 14:54, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Lilliealbert (talk) 00:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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A kitteh for your thoughts!

Manfish3 (talk) 00:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Edit-A-Thon[edit]


I'm holding an edit-a-thon event at the University of San Francisco. I think you're helping out at the Kadist Foundation's event this year, but is there any chance you'd want to come to our event as well? I'd love for our students to be able to talk to an experienced Wikipedian. Our event is Friday March 6th from 10am-1pm. Thanks so much!

Colette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmisc (talkcontribs) 22:12, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


this is Tiara from the meetup! I have a thing for platypus too :D Creatrixtiara (talk) 08:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg Thank you for coming to the editathon on Sunday! Lovely to meet you, be in touch :) rachel (talk) 00:37, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Emanuel AME for DYK?[edit]

(Mentioned also to User:BrillLyle on his talk page.)

...This article has hit a quality point where we may want to consider nominating it for DYK in a few days. I have found several items that would make intriguing hooks for the article, most notably the Grover Cleveland donation in 1886. That said, my only concern is that it may be too unstable (given current events) to be nominated yet. This would not be a self-nomination for either of us as User:ParkerHiggins created the article, though I would hope it would be a joint nomination by several of us major editors to this article. Any thoughts? Raymie (tc) 08:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't know the politics, and haven't previously been involved in a DYK, but to the extent it matters I am in favor. This article has really come together impressively, and there are certainly a handful of facts (the Cleveland donation among them) that would seem to qualify for this kind of recognition. ParkerHiggins ( talk contribs ) 09:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

The issue is the hook about Denmark Vesey. Take a look and see what you can do. ALT1 is also an option should the Vesey hook not work out. Raymie (tc) 21:36, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Now we have to decide between the two hooks. Which one do you like better? Raymie (tc) 07:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 23:47, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


Hi, Dreamyshade - Thank you for the help with the AlloSphere page. At the moment, I added the list of Publications as its own list. I will take more time to incorporate them into the article. The first thing I wanted to do was to prevent the page from being deleted due to lack of sources. Now I'm trying to make an Infobox with no success, but I'll keep tinkering. Thank you for your help consolidating the footnotes. First page I have worked on, your assistance is appreciated.Rebecca Rincon (talk) 04:14, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Image issue[edit]

Hi, dreamy shade - Thank you for your message. I'm new at this and trying to post in a way that works. The images I have posted are not mine, but they belong to the AlloSphere, and they know that I am updating the Wikipedia page. I tried to fill out the Fair Use information to the best of my ability, but the essence is that these are their images to publish as they wish and I couldn't find where to input that info in all of the copyright questions. How do I establish that I have permission to post their pictures? Thank you for your assistance. Rebecca Rincon (talk) 05:23, 9 September 2015 (UTC) Rebecca Rincon (talk) 05:23, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Infobox Success[edit]

Thank you for the advice on my AlloSphere infobox. I finally got it to work! Your help is much appreciated. Rebecca Rincon (talk) 05:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Image Permissions[edit]

Hi, again - I haven't gotten a permission letter from the person I am making edits for (JoAnn Kuchera-Morin). I posted their public headshot from their work website and it was removed. Shouldn't that be ok, if it is already their public profile photo? I will send their permission letter in as soon as I receive it, but until then, I was hoping to use a placeholder. Thanks for your help. Rebecca Rincon (talk) 21:10, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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Thank you[edit]

Hello Dreamyshade,

I really enjoyed your presentation today on the very early history of Wikipedia. Quite interesting. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:02, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

+1 - Thanks for the walk down memory lane. You might be interested in this project I started recently, and definitely welcome your input/collaboration! See: The History of Wikipedia in 100 Articles - Fuzheado | Talk 14:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Great job[edit]

Hi, Britta. Great job at Wikipedia-15. Hats off for not having stage fright like I would. Hey, did you know you can type in nost: (with the colon) on any Wiki page in to the search box and it will pull up the 2001 home page in a jiffy?

About five weeks ago we started kicking around the idea to post a Wikipedia Tip-of-the-day regarding the nostalgia page. See: Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day#(February 6) - Flashback to Wikipedia's past. We thought it might be cool to run it every November 1, since that is when WP hit 5-million articles. Feel free to directly edit the tip to make it more interesting and helpful. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 14:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Nice work[edit]

+1 to what people have written above! :-) I found out about your presentation through a mention on a blog post] by legoktm. I've done a lot of work in wiki-archaeology, especially relating to Wikipedia's earliest edits (see my page history observations and notes on importing). I first encountered your work in early 2009 when I was cleaning up user page histories, as you'd moved several user pages from the main to the user namespace by cut and paste, which was the only real option then. Only later did I actually read your user page and discover you were only 14 or 15 then ... which makes your early work all the more remarkable. I agree that the earlier history of Wikipedia needs to be better documented, but how to do it, I'm not entirely sure. As an aside, the bug where the number of bytes changed is incorrect for some of your early edits (and many others that were imported from the 2001 database) is filed as phab T38976. It's been resolved, but not retroactively, so edits made before the bug fix will still be shown as having incorrect byte differences.

If you have any further questions about Wikipedia's early history, feel free to let me know. Graham87 15:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker). Graham87, I was poking around XTools! and found out Dreamyshade's user number is 32, and that Jimbo Wales's is 24! Mine is over 10,000,000. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 11:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

We love you, Britta.[edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png We couldn't have done the WOW! Editing Group without you. Any time, any place, beers (or other drink of choice) are on me! Jsm0925 (talk) 04:36, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

2016 Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon @ CCA[edit]

Looking forward to editing with you!
Wikipedia:Meetup/San Francisco/ArtandFeminism 2016
Arts+Feminism logo
Glad you're joining us for Art+Feminism event at the California College of the Arts Simpson Library on Saturday March 5, 2016

--Circa73 (talk)

WIR A+F[edit]

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Hoping you enjoyed the recently-held in-person Art+Feminism meetup,
we cordially invite you continue your participation by joining the
virtual worldwide online event
hosted by Women in Red.
March 2016 (Women's History Month)

(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Rosiestep (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

2016 Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon @ CCA[edit]

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It was great editing with you!
Hi Dreamyshade,
Thank you for participating in CCA's second Art+Feminism edit-a-thon this past weekend. Your presentation was fantastic! It did the hard job of paring the Wikipedia's complexities down to the essentials, showing that it can be accessible and fun. Thank you for your invaluable pre-event tips for the meetup page and I also see you've been working on the Allison Smith (artist) article. I so much appreciate you sharing your expertise and enthusiasm!

--Circa73 (talk)

You are invited to the Bay Area WikiSalon kickoff[edit]

Hi, Britta. I do not see you on this small SF mailing list, so I'm going to hand deliver an invite to you below for the Bay Area WikiSalon (BAWS) kickoff event. Please distribute to Double Union and to other interested parties. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 22:48, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Please join us for our first Bay Area WikiSalon!
A Wikipedia panel discussion about journalism

We have two brief presentations lined up for our kickoff event at the Wikimedia Foundation offices in downtown San Francisco:

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Wi-Fi is available. Newcomers are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! The doors open promptly at 6:00 pm. We will have beverages and light snacks, provided by Wiki Strategies, Ben Creasy, and Wayne Calhoon.

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on this point.

For further details, see here.

A kitten for you![edit]

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Ochilov (talk) 09:09, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2016[edit]

You are invited to participate in the third annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which runs through the month of June. The purpose of the campaign is to create and improve content related to LGBT culture and history. How can you help?

  1. Create or improve LGBT-related Wikipedia pages and showcase the results of your work here
  2. Document local LGBT culture and history by taking pictures at pride events and uploading your images to Wikimedia Commons
  3. Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)

Looking for topics? The Tasks page, which you are welcome to update, offers some ideas and wanted articles.

This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. The group's mission is to develop LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. Visit the affiliate's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Wikipedia, plain and simple, and all are welcome! If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's talk page.

Thanks, and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:55, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

SFPL meetup[edit]

It was nice to mmet you at Wikipedia:Meetup/SFPL-LGBT/2016 and hope to collaborate more with you in the future.
Mathglot (talk) 01:37, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Scale of justice 2.svg Hello, Dreamyshade. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page.

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Scale of justice 2.svg Hello, Dreamyshade. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. Mdann52 (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Mind taking a look?[edit]

Dear Dreamyshade,

Thank you for recently noticing the aggressive edits happening around the article on me and offering to help get this article in shape. Per your advice, I've decided to stop editing my page and have created a sandbox of suggested edits and references on my Talk page for any interested parties to review, edit, and migrate. I would be honored if you had a moment to look over this post.

And, meanwhile, some background notes for context: This article was created by someone other than me over 10 years ago but in that time there has been some misinformation (places of birth, employment, education, etc) posted & even insisted upon/reverted-to after edits & corrections by others. After leaving it alone for a decade, I recently tried to go in and make some quick corrections myself, given the number of erroneous quotes by journalists, curators, and students writing about me. However, this seemed to open a Pandora's box and suddenly even previously fact-checked info regarding my educational credentials, professional accomplishments, professorial career, and major exhibitions and publications were quickly stripped or reverted. There's more info at the link above and I really appreciate any time or input you can offer. Thanks, Britta! - Marisa

Marisasolson (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for organizing the editathon at Wikipedia Birthday 16 in San Francisco! :) Ijon (talk) 02:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for taking the initiative on an underserved topic area! Jackiekoerner (talk) 05:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Bob Sipchen[edit]

It appears that we're all working on the article together. As it looks like you're family friends per your note on the talk page, in the event that User:Sipchen is, in fact, Mr. Sipchen, we would be remiss to not mention WP:COISELF, WP:AUTO, and WP:BLPCOI. I am unable to find any connection to the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News, as the user inserted and you brought up on the talk page. The page itself nor any of the winning work linked mention his name. While writers are mentioned in greater frequency, where do we draw the line as to winner/non-winner in the event that he was actually on staff? At least for the 1992 LA Riots where the "staff" won the prize, it was mentioned by the Pulitzer website itself here in his biography when he won his 2002 award. Thoughts on those two issues (COI, Pulitzer) and how to best address? GauchoDude (talk) 14:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Deltopia for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Deltopia is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deltopia until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Quidster4040 (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For searching and finding sources on Deltopia. E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:06, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

2017 Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon in SF[edit]

Hello! I was hoping you'd be able to come to our annual Art+Feminism edit-a-thon at California College of the Arts, we're hosting it next Friday from 3-7pm on our San Francisco campus (1111 8th St.). Your "intro to editing" speech was so well received last year and you were such a great presence for all the newer editors, we really appreciated it. If you're not able to make it, could you perhaps suggest another local Wikipedia who might be willing to speak? Thanks much! Here's program page and don't hesitate to contact me if you have questions. Phette23 (talk) 17:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me! No worries that you can't make it, and I already was thinking of using your presentation as an intro. We'll reach out to the Wikimedia-SF list and see if someone else can come. Thanks again! Have fun at the SFAI event! Phette23 (talk) 00:09, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

2017 Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon @ CCA[edit]

You are invited! - Friday, March 10 - SF CCA ArtAndFeminism 2017
Arts+Feminism logo
Please join us at the California College of the Arts'
Simpson Library
on Friday March 10, 2017, for
an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Wikipedia articles covering Art and Feminism, and the biographies of women artists!

--Jscarboro (talk)

Thanks Britta![edit]

Hello Britta, We met at the editathon at the SFAI on Saturday and I wanted to thank you for all of your help--especially your help in improving the page I worked on for Ruth-Marian Baruch! Thanks again for assisting with my first Wikipedia contribution. Stop by the SFAI Library when you need some content,

Thanks again, Jeff G. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Gunderson (talkcontribs) 05:14, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2017[edit]

You are invited to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects throughout the month of June as part of the fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. Feel free to add new and expanded content on the project's Results page. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

We're on Twitter![edit]

WikiLGBT is on Twitter!
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Hello Dreamyshade!
Follow the Wikimedia LGBT user group on Twitter at @wikilgbt for news, photos, and other topics of interest to LGBT Wikipedans and allies. Use #wikiLGBT to share any Wiki Loves Pride stuff that you would like to share (whether this month or any day of the year) or to alert folks to things that the LGBT Wikipedan community should know. RachelWex 21:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)