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Administrators' newsletter – January 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Guideline and policy news

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  3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

Technical news

  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
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  • Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
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DYK for Accident triangle[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 4 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Accident triangle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1931 accident triangle theory proposed a link between the number of minor accidents and those that led to serious injury? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Accident triangle. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Accident triangle), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Héctor Timerman[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 4 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Héctor Timerman, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 16:09, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

If you have a spare moment...[edit]

Of course in no way shape or form expected, but if you have a spare moment would you mind looking at my first A-class nom? I'd be happy to review any nomination in return. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Eddie891. It has been a long time since I have been involved in A-class and FA nominations, so I may have to brush up a little, but more than happy to take a look - Dumelow (talk) 08:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019[edit]

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ITN recognition for Scott Dozier[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 7 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Scott Dozier, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 04:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Boybuloq Cave[edit]

"The 2018 expeditions mapped more than 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) of new passages in the cave and discovered several promising leads for new explorations." I am not sure this is right - the reference doesn't say in which caves the extensions were found. It would probably be more accurate to say that 2018 expedition found a further 2 kilometres of cave whilst looking for a connection between B and V".

Thanks for spotting this Langcliffe - it is beyond my normal area of expertise. I've reworded it to hopefully solve this problem, would you mind taking another look to check? Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 12:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Looks good! Langcliffe (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar[edit]

Hi…your article British ambulances in the Franco-Prussian War, reminded me of a relative of Lister called Marcus Beck, who was part of the Anglo-American ambulance team to Sedan and had reported in 1870, that the French failed to adopt antiseptic measures during the Franco-Prussian War. Beck became one of Lister's stoutest defenders during the controversy over the introduction of the antiseptic technique in surgery. During the Franco-Prussian War, he accompanied in July 1870 an Anglo-American ambulance team to Sedan, where he witnessed the ravages of war and reported that French surgeons refused to adopt Lister's antiseptic method in the management of war wounds. ([1][2])

Writers Barnstar Hires.png The Writer's Barnstar
Your articles have been a delight to my days, particularly trees, cats and the Franco-Prussian War. Well done and thank you! Whispyhistory (talk) 18:05, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Good find Whispyhistory. I've added the above info and some other interesting snippets to the article. Glad you've enjoyed reading my articles, I've certainly enjoyed writing them! I'll try to keep it up, many thanks for the barnstar - Dumelow (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Sabretache[edit]

Hiya,

Just to let you know I'll make the scans of that article for you when I'm next at the British Library on Saturday 19th. Annoyingly if I'd managed to see your request sooner, you'd have had the scans already as I was literally in the building dropping something off for a colleague last Saturday. I've gone and requested all the 1998 issues, so if there's anything else in those that you'd like, then let me know and I'll scan them as well. I use a scanning app called Turboscan on my phone which corrects the perspective and fixes the contrast to make the text easier to read, as well as converting it to PDFs for easy viewing. Once I've got the scans, I'll be in touch. Miyagawa (talk) 11:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Miyagawa, many thanks for offering to help with this. I had a quick look and the following from 1998 sound interesting, if you get chance:

Thanks again for being so helpful, much appreciated - Dumelow (talk) 16:17, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem, I'll get those scanned. Miyagawa (talk) 22:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Miyagawa. Did you manage to get a look at these? No worries if not, it'll keep! - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
I've got the scans in PDF, just forgot to send them over. What's the easiest way to get them to you? Miyagawa (talk) 18:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Miyagawa. If you could send them by email that'd be great. I've sent you a message so you should now have my email address. All the best Dumelow (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

ICE[edit]

Hi! Is there any chance you have access to the full version this article from Proceedings of the Institution of Civil Engineers and if so that you could email me a copy to hjmwiki at gmail dot com? I'm in the process of writing Old Exe Bridge and citations to that paper keep cropping up. Thanks! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi HJ Mitchell, good to hear from you. Annoyingly ICE members only get digital access to the last three years of the proceedings and to anything published before 1900. I should be able to get access the physical copies at the library but unfortunately I am not planning on being in London any time soon. I've dropped the library staff an email to see if somebody can send me a copy. Will keep you informed, cheers - Dumelow (talk)
Harry, they came back quicker than I thought. I've sent it to what I think is your email address. Let me know if it hasn't come through, cheers - Dumelow (talk) 18:09, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Yep, I've got it. Thanks very much for that! I owe you one. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

New project![edit]

Hi Dumelow, hope you had a good festive season. My new project for 2019 is to create articles for the remaining 100 or so cricketers who have represented the Army, RAF and RN in first-class cricket. I wonder if there's a way to intergrate this somehow with the military project, so as and when they're created, they can be checked over to see anything can be expanded on the military side? Hopefully come across a few more interesting ones like there were with the Irish cricketers. StickyWicket (talk) 22:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi StickyWicket. More than happy to help out, I'm sure there'll be a few interesting stories to be told. If you ping me when you start a new article I'll try to pull everything in from the Gazette at least. As to getting wider feedback I usually just post similar requests to the MILHIST talk page but I guess it could get quite overloaded at the rate you produce articles! Maybe just list them all under one talk page section? - Dumelow (talk) 07:54, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Awesome stuff! I'll see if I can add them here. I've set myself that target of creating them all before the year is out, but I'd imagine my progress will be slow as I have loads of studying to do. Oh, just wondering if you have a resource for Sandhurst graduates? Lionel Bostock is the first guy I chose at random to start and this source says he attended Sandhurst, but isn't specific as to whether it's the academy or college. StickyWicket (talk) 17:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
It would be the college. The academy was formed in 1947 as a merger of the college and the academy at Woolwich. I've stuck the usual promotions and awards from the gazette and a few other mentions on the talk page for now, I'll try to get around to integrating them into the article later on - Dumelow (talk) 17:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up, I always assumed they were two separate establishments. Just went to add a bit more to Bostock's article and saw you've done a fine job! Her's a Barnstar for doing an awesome job with the obscure military cricketers!
Cricket-barnstar-small.png Cricket Barnstar
For helping to expand obscure first-class cricketers with a military background. Well done! StickyWicket (talk) 14:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks for the barnstar, been great fun working on these chaps - Dumelow (talk) 22:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jack Gannon[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 10 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jack Gannon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first-class cricketer Jack Gannon was mentioned in dispatches twice in both the Anglo-Afghan War and the Second World War? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Gannon. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jack Gannon), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Clive Garthwaite[edit]

Hi Dumelow. Here's the latest military cricketer. I've pulled what I could find from the gazette, but I feel there's more out there about him as his career was from 1929 to 1963! He was seconded from the RA in 1939, but I can't find where to, plus he later served as an aide-de-camp to the Queen by 1960, but I can't find the date he took up his post. All the best, StickyWicket (talk) 22:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi StickyWicket. I'll take a proper look tomorrow but I just found an interesting note that he poached Tom Cartwright for the RA team when he came up for national service. He commanded the garrison at Woolwich towards the end of his career and ran some sort of business from home in his retirement. I'll keep digging, cheers - Dumelow (talk) 22:53, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, that's really interesting. I wondered what he'd been up too in the 1950s! I'm starting on a player who I think was a victim of the Wormhoudt massacre, so he should be an interesting one. StickyWicket (talk) 22:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Think I've done as much as I can with Garthwaite for now. Looks like you are getting on well with Michael Magill and Charles Orton (who I guess is you Wormhoudt victim?), I'll try to take a look at these soon - Dumelow (talk) 00:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Yep, I've made a start on Orton. Though not 100% certain he was murdered by the SS, the book source I used seems fairly certain he was, while leaving open the possibility he was KIA. StickyWicket (talk) 18:22, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Franco-Irish Ambulance Brigade[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 15 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Franco-Irish Ambulance Brigade, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a volunteer medical unit was raised in Ireland for service with the French Army in the Franco-Prussian War? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Franco-Irish Ambulance Brigade. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Franco-Irish Ambulance Brigade), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Bond (cricketer)[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 16 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Henry Bond (cricketer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first-class cricketer and British Army racquets champion Henry Bond received honours from the British and Romanian governments for his service during the First World War? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Bond (cricketer). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Henry Bond (cricketer)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Laurent Gbagbo[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 17 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Laurent Gbagbo, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Land mines in the Falkland Islands[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Land mines in the Falkland Islands at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Specifically, it's mostly waiting on the QPQ, after which I think you'll be good to go with the penguin hook. For the record, the BBC's "The penguins that would not explode" might be the "hookiest" source title I've ever seen cited. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification Squeamish Ossifrage. I have a few QPQs I need to catch up on, I'll try to sort one out in the next day or so. Glad you enjoyed the article, I enjoyed writing it! - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Absolutely. Feel free to ping me when the QPQ is done so I can be sure to get the DYK nom updated. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Chris Wilson (Australian musician)[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 17 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Chris Wilson (Australian musician), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Per this and this - Dumelow (talk) 22:39, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Daniel Grose[edit]

Hi Dumelow. I've added the cricket info for the above guy, and his graduation from RMA Woolwich. But he seems to have disappeared on the Gazette and other sources after that. Apparently, he was a POW in Hong Kong during WWII. I think his father is also a Lt Col of the same name appearing in dispatches in 1917, but I can't prove it! StickyWicket (talk) 17:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@AssociateAffiliate: Here you go:
I see what you mean by the father - the Service Corps chap with the same initials? Apparently his father was an Army Medical Service surgeon, the Service Corps guy married Ida Macdonald on 24 April 1902 which would tie in with our man's date of birth - Dumelow (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Our Grose was chairman of the Tunbridge Wells hopsital Group from at least 1966 to at least 1970 and at that time lived in Edenbridge. He was with the Hong Kong garrison by 8 December 1941 commanding 22nd Fortress Company of the Royal Engineers. He became a member of the Bristol and Wessex Aeroplane Club in 1936 - Dumelow (talk) 18:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
He's described as a "fine wicket keeper and opening bat" and there's a photo of him in 1933 - Dumelow (talk) 18:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
He was repatriated to Manila in September 1945, having been interned by the Japanese at Baguio, Phillipines. Think that's everything I can find on him - Dumelow (talk) 18:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for that! I've added some of the sources to the article. I wonder if you could add the source for his repatriation to Manila? I can't access the article as it's a subscription only page :( StickyWicket (talk) 17:12, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I wonder if he died at Royal Tunbridge Wells and not Tonbridge, as suggested by CricketArchive? Being chairman of the Tunbridge Wells Hospital Group just prior to his death, I'd hazard a guess Tunbridge and Tonbridge have been confused? StickyWicket (talk) 17:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I've added the missing ref. With Newspapers.com you can get the raw OCRed text if you click the drop down arrow just underneath the image. Usually its legible enough to make out the meaning, if not I just drop the friendly guys at WP:REX a quick request. I am not sure about the Tunbridge/Tonbridge. They are only 4 miles apart so its conceivable that he lived in one and commuted to the other - Dumelow (talk) 22:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for adding that. I thought the two were at opposite sides of Kent, ashamedly for someone who prides themselves on being hot on geography!!! I'm a bit snowed under with uni assignments at the moment, but hope to be back on it soon! Henslow looks an interesting chap! StickyWicket (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Edward Henslow[edit]

Just sticking these here so I can add them later:

Think I've done all I can for Henslow. You might be able to dig up some cricketty bits though? - Dumelow (talk) 16:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
I've added a little bit more about his minor counties cricket. There's not too much about his cricket, but I did find a number of photos of Henslow, including one dated from 1912 when he was in the regimental team that played at W. H. Laverton's Ground.[3] W. H. Laverton was apparently an old Wiltshire Regiment man, though I can't see his military career alone makes him notable enough for an article. Good work on that though :) StickyWicket (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm glad W. H. Laverton's Ground was mentioned, because its exact location wasn't known. So I had a look at some old OS maps dated 1901 and discovered that W. H. Laverton's Ground and the present day Wellhead Lane are one and the same! CricketArchive and Cricinfo list them separately, so I'm not sure why they haven't made the link before now!!! StickyWicket (talk) 22:11, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Nice work! Think you are right about Laverton, unless they made it to general rank it is hard to prove notability purely from the military side of things. He does seem to have been a reasonably prolific philanthropist though (he is connected to arms houses and a swimming baths) - Dumelow (talk) 08:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I'll certainly mention him when I expand that ground! My next one I've made a start on is Lionel Collins, looks interesting just from this. StickyWicket (talk) 22:07, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ogilvie Graham[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 19 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ogilvie Graham, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that British Army officer Ogilvie Graham met his wife during the Battle of the Somme? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ogilvie Graham. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ogilvie Graham), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for John Coughlin (figure skater)[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 20 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article John Coughlin (figure skater), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:44, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Mason Lowe[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 20 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mason Lowe, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Per this and this - Dumelow (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Nathan Glazer[edit]

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ITN recognition for United Nations Multidimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in Mali[edit]

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ITN recognition for Chad–Israel relations[edit]

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ITN recognition for Andrew Fairlie (chef)[edit]

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DYK for David Gwynne-James[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 25 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article David Gwynne-James, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that David Gwynne-James represented the King's Shropshire Light Infantry in cricket, rugby, hockey, squash, skiing, and athletics? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/David Gwynne-James. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, David Gwynne-James), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:02, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Altino Pinto de Magalhães[edit]

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ITN recognition for Georges Nasser[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 26 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Georges Nasser, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:04, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Sorry he was only on the main page for 11 minutes! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:15, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Lionel Collins[edit]

Hi Dumelow. Just pulling some info from the Gazette on this guy. It seems he was an OBE by 1925, but for the life of me I can't find anything in the Gazette from 1919-1925 that says anything about him being in the NY or Birthday Honours. I wonder if you might have more luck! StickyWicket (talk) 12:51, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Narrowed it down a little. He had it by the time he was appointed assistant military secretary in 1922. I'll keep looking - Dumelow (talk) 21:53, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Here you go: August 1920 in the honours following the Third Anglo-Afghan War. Nice work, the article is looking good. I'll try to find something to add to it - Dumelow (talk) 22:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
A few tidbits:
I'll try to work these in tomorrow, unles you get around to it before I do - Dumelow (talk) 22:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Dumelow. I've expanded him some more today, so I think there's not much more to add! StickyWicket (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Convention of Alessandria[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 28 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Convention of Alessandria, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the historian Thomas Henry Dyer described the Convention of Alessandria as "one of the most disgraceful capitulations in history"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Convention of Alessandria. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Convention of Alessandria), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ndaye Mulamba[edit]

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ITN recognition for Mourad Medelci[edit]

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ITN recognition for Mary Lou Robinson[edit]

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DYK for Clive Garthwaite[edit]

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PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2019[edit]

ITN recognition for Pierre Nanterme[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 31 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Pierre Nanterme, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ingvald Godal[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 31 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ingvald Godal, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zura Karuhimbi[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 1 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zura Karuhimbi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Zura Karuhimbi saved the lives of more than 100 refugees during the Rwandan genocide by pretending to be a witch? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zura Karuhimbi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zura Karuhimbi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:02, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Ode of Remembrance[edit]

I plan to work on the article Ode of Remembrance a fair amount in the months to come. I am American, and was curious if you could briefly provide some context about it. Also if you have any sources, please let me know. I have sent for "Laurence Binyon : poet, scholar of East and West" already. Of course, nothing is expected, but anything you might have to add is greatly appreciated. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:42, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Eddie891. Looks like an interesting topic to work on (I wrote the somewhat related known unto God recently). I can honestly say that I have only ever heard the third and fourth verses, which are used at remembrance events - though this is almost always the fourth verse alone. In my experience it is generally read by the person leading the service (often a vicar or similar) and follows the last post and minutes silence. The last line is repeated by the audience (with the emphasis on the "will", as if it were an oath). I would say the fourth verse is known by the majority of the population and you see it sometimes reproduced in full or part on war memorials, plaques etc. I vaguely recall reading about the dispute over whether it should have been "contemn" rather than "condemn" but I have only ever seen/heard the latter. Not sure I have much in the way of sources for this one but more than happy to chip in and help when you get started on it, drop me a quick reminder when you do. Sorry I couldn't be of much help, good luck! - Dumelow (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).

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ITN recognition for Walter James Edyvean[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 5 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Walter James Edyvean, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:08, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

A strange one![edit]

Hi Dumelow. I've started an article on Guy Gregson-Ellis, another first-class military cricketer. Having searched the archive and expecting a name like to be rare, I wasn't expecting it to return no results! Some sites name him at George Saxon Llewellyn Gregson-Ellis, but even then I can get no results. He clearly had a few mentions in the Gazette (plus an MC decoration) again by this. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong in the search parameter to return no result?! StickyWicket (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi StickyWicket. I did a search on "Gregson-Ellis" and limited the date to 1911-1950 and got the following:
Still looking to track down his MC, there is probably a smudge on the page that is confusing the Gazette's OCR reader - Dumelow (talk) 09:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Found it in the birthday honours 1916, his name was split over two lines so it didn't get picked up in the search - Dumelow (talk) 09:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
He gets a mention in this regimental history for actions in reorganising the 2nd battalion after losses in action on the first day of the Somme. His MC is shown here for interest - Dumelow (talk) 09:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
@Dumelow: thanks for those, I can only assume the Gazette search was down when I looked as I also searched in the same way and nothing! I've added those sources to the article now. Thanks again :) StickyWicket (talk) 14:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Pow of Inchaffray[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 8 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pow of Inchaffray, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a ditch in Scotland has been the subject of acts of parliament since 1696? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pow of Inchaffray. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pow of Inchaffray), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:01, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK nominations for Lionel Bostock and Garluark[edit]

I completed a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Lionel Bostock, and noted a question for you. Please respond there when you are able. Cheers, Flibirigit (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019[edit]

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DYK for British ambulances in the Franco-Prussian War[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 11 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article British ambulances in the Franco-Prussian War, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that British ambulance units (stores pictured) served alongside armies of both combatants in the Franco-Prussian War? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/British ambulances in the Franco-Prussian War. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, British ambulances in the Franco-Prussian War), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (Talk) 00:01, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Guy Dury[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 12 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Guy Dury, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after recapturing escaped Luftwaffe prisoners, the British officer Guy Dury is said to have remarked: "one really has to take off one's hat to them ... I really regret having to lock them up"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Guy Dury. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Guy Dury), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gordon Banks[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 12 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gordon Banks, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Some more military guys![edit]

Hi Dumelow. I've created articles on an RN man Richard Borgnis (he retired from the RN in 1938 on account of ill health, but died in 2001! Can't find much on his between those two dates. CricketArchive says he was made an MBE for services to cricket in the 1990 New Years Honours, but I can't find anything on that in the gazette - I wonder if they're mistaken?) and Richard Peck, a current living major-general. All of the latters gazette stuff is in the article - though if I have the terms right is another thing! I'll leave them in your capable hands to see what more you might dig up! StickyWicket (talk) 17:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Not come up with much on Borgnis, though he is said to have later gone by Hammond-Chambers-Borgnis. He is mentioned in the Times Literary Supplement in 1982 "Where is Lt R. P. Hammond-Chambers Borgnis (Wisden doesn’t give him nearly so many names) who made 101 on his first-class debut, for Combined Services v New Zealand at Portsmouth In 1937. Killed in action? In retirement in Devonshire? Like Hamlet’s father they cry to us, remember me." in a review of a Bill Frindall stats book. I couldn't find anyone of a similar name mentioned for services to cricket in the new years or birthday honours of 1989 through 1991. Looks like he may have just vanished into obscurity - Dumelow (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
With regards Peck there's a little on his role in the lead up to Desert Storm and he is a trustee of the Lord Kitchener Memorial Fund (a university scholarship for armed services members or children), apart from that not much on him either I'm afraid - Dumelow (talk) 14:24, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
I think you're right about Borgnis, he seems to disappear before reappearing in France 60 years later! Thanks for getting some more bits for Peck's article, I'll add it in. I've hit a brick wall with a military guy! John Carr (father of the Test cricketer Donald Carr) seems to have done a Borgnis on the Gazette and vanished into obscurity. He served in the Berks Regiment in WWII, by 1915 he was a lieutenant on half-pay due to illness. Searching his full name brings up one match. Searching "John L Carr" also has the one match. Searching "J L Carr" and limiting it to just the war beings up 1848430028 results! A source suggests he later reached Lt. Col. Any way you know of narrowing this guy with all his generic search features down? All the best. StickyWicket (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi StickyWicket. Strange, I searched "J. L. Carr" and go 43 results from 1914 to 1950 - the Gazette search engine is strange sometimes. Thought there's a couple of other officers with the same initials. Here's a few key ones:

At some point between July 1916 and June 1918 he was promoted to captain. I'll see if I can find it, though sometimes there are errors in scanning by the Gazette that prevent you from finding it on the search - Dumelow (talk) 09:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

I coudln't find his promotion but did find that he was already a captain by 7 September 1917 when he was granted the temporary rank of major - Dumelow (talk) 09:30, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
I think the Gazette search engine has it in for me! I've come across a few chaps lately with gaps between promotions, "at some point he was promoted to blah" does the trick! I've given a hand doing some non-military guys and found they were military! Thanks for your help once again. StickyWicket (talk) 20:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

A pie for you![edit]

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg Good work on the DYK for Guy Dury DBigXray 19:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Though StickyWicket deserves most of the credit for this one - Dumelow (talk) 19:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Allan Wild[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 13 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Allan Wild, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Eric Harrison (footballer)[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 14 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Eric Harrison (footballer), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 21:46, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Boybuloq Cave[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 15 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Boybuloq Cave, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Boybuloq Cave, the deepest in Asia, is located near Uzbekistan's highest village? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Boybuloq Cave. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Boybuloq Cave), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Artillery Mounted Rifles[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 16 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Royal Artillery Mounted Rifles, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rudyard Kipling may have coined the term "infantillery" to refer to the Royal Artillery Mounted Rifles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Royal Artillery Mounted Rifles. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Royal Artillery Mounted Rifles), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Black Bond[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 19 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black Bond, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that due to an illegal electoral pact, the Scottish burgh of Stirling lost the right to elect a Member of Parliament in 1773? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Bond. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Black Bond), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Park Crescent West ice well at DYK[edit]

Hi Dumelow -- Fascinating article, thanks (I used to work round the corner). I have a couple of concerns one about minor close paraphrasing issues, the other about Ref 3 (the UCL blog). Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 04:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Cavalry Staff Corps[edit]

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DYK for Land mines in the Falkland Islands[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 20 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Land mines in the Falkland Islands, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that mine fields in the Falkland Islands are havens for Magellanic and gentoo penguins (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Land mines in the Falkland Islands. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Land mines in the Falkland Islands), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Lionel Bostock[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 21 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lionel Bostock, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after being captured and imprisoned by British Major Lionel Bostock, the Nuer prophet Garluark was restored to his former position as ruler of a region of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lionel Bostock. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lionel Bostock), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Garluark[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 21 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Garluark, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after being captured and imprisoned by British Major Lionel Bostock, the Nuer prophet Garluark was restored to his former position as ruler of a region of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Garluark), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Magill[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 22 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Michael Magill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that British Army officer Michael Magill was killed alongside his brigade commander after treading on a land mine during a training exercise in Yorkshire? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Magill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Michael Magill), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)