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Thank you for today's William of Wrotham, "an obscure English cleric and royal administrator, who was heavily involved in naval affairs in the reign of King John. Although he was called one of John's "evil counsellors" by Roger of Wendover, it doesn't really appear to have been the case. He never was criticized for extortion or anything, and appears to have been a good administrator and official."!

Forest law[edit]

The whole redirects were a mess they were linking to two separate articles, this one and this one: Forest law - Forestry law. I am just redirecting the targets to where they were originally going to. So if you're saying they're the wrong targets they always were that way. Inexpiable (talk) 02:08, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

I can direct the ones you've reverted to this article Forest law, but that's not where the links were originally going. Whole thing is a mess. Inexpiable (talk) 02:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
They should go to the article that talks about the royal forest established in medieval England by William the Conqueror. That's where they went when the articles were written ... Ealdgyth - Talk 02:11, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok I've done that but that isn't where they were originally redirecting to. Inexpiable (talk) 02:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Took forever but it's done. I've redirected all the articles to the correct pages. Inexpiable (talk) 02:55, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

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Quick questions[edit]

Hello Ealdgyth. I have three quick questions: Bede lists what I would call its Notes or maybe Footnotes (e.g., "Brooks 2006, p. 5") in a section titled References. Is the use of "References" for "Brooks 2006, p. 5" a fairly common format, or is it idiosyncratic? I ask because I am writing a script to flag various resource checking issues... and what's the logic for putting the multiply-cited "Fr. Paolo O. Pirlo, SHMI (1997)." in the References instead of the Sources?... and while I have already inconvenienced you, it it really common out there in the wild to put full book citations (with publisher etc.) in the footnotes or notes or whatever if they are cited only once, and in sources if cited more than once? It would be so amazingly more consistent and logical and clear to just put them all in the same place... Sorry to be so inquisitive. Thanks. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 00:53, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Bede isn’t really something I’ve worked much on, it’s references are rather scattered. Usually I do something like what is in Jacob Gens or Norman conquest of England.youll never get standardization of how references are presented on Wikipedia...just not going to happen. Ealdgyth - Talk 01:05, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks then... Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 15:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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An a star for you too! Thank you for your much-needed input at Skowronek talk. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Skowonrek Article Edits.[edit]

Hi Ealdgyth- you are going to waste a lot of time and get your self very upset if you keep changing the Skowronek article, especially anything relating to the pedigree controversy unless you get consensus from the editors. Just saying. Save yourself some time, and take a look at the talk page of the article. Arabhorseguy (talk) 14:26, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Are you threatening to edit war over this? Because quite frankly, I am still only seeing one editor putting in stuff and that information being reverted (or objected to on the talk page) by a number of other editors. When its one editor against many, that's kind of the definition of WP:CONSENSUS. This post here sure looks like a threat to continue to edit war against multiple editors... Ealdgyth - Talk 14:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Consensus appears to be 5:1 against this guy. Montanabw(talk) 19:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

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You were mentioned[edit]

Here, Ealdgyth; I'd be flattered if you would find your way towards giving an opinion. Hope you're well! >SerialNumber54129...speculates 16:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Further to this, I've finished my minor expansion (no longer "in use")—I thought the WotR section needed fattening up. Cheers, >SerialNumber54129...speculates 17:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
As a driveby comment, if you're planning on taking JdeM to FAC it definitely needs a mention of Shakespeare. I normally loathe "in popular culture", but in this case I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that over 99%—and probably over 99.9%—of people who've heard of him, have heard of him from his three-line cameo appearance in 3 Henrv VI. ‑ Iridescent 17:24, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Driveby comments always welcome. Thanks Iridescent; I was going to ask about that—it's lower down in my brain, the highbrow stuff—but the only reason I haven't (precisely as you nod to) is that I thought it might open the floodgates to crapper entries (at some point he'll probably be mentioned in manga or something!)—but I'll go for it. Actors of him too, you think? >SerialNumber54129...speculates 18:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I'd say probably not for Shakespeare, given that he's a bit part. If he was a major character in something, or if an A-list star got his start because a producer saw him playing Norfolk and liked it, it would probably be worth mentioning. "In popular culture" isn't necessarily a bad thing when it comes to historic figures, as it demonstrates that people continue to find the person in question relevant. ‑ Iridescent 18:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
@Iridescent: This kind of thing? —absolute bark finding stuff on a bloke what says three lines :) >SerialNumber54129...speculates 19:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Skowronek[edit]

Moved to Talk:Skowronek (horse): Wrong venue.

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troll vandalizing articles[edit]

We've been dealing with a troll on the Skowronek article who if I remember made the change "the" Skowronek. Thanks for your patience as this gets cleaned up. Best wishes.(Littleolive oil (talk) 21:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC))

I don't care who first inserted it but here it is being restored right before my edit. It's a sign of someone using undo without actually checking the intervening edits. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:14, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
And amazingly enough, I do know all about the troll, since I was also being reverted there on that article by that troll. Yes, I'm cranky, but this whole thing is getting old. And it's cold, wet, damp, and muddy� here with ice on the trees and on my feed buckets and everything else. It'd be nice if I could escape to editing WP without drama. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:16, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Its cold wet and muddy here too and the dog has paws that are full of mud and has tracked everywhere.... that said... we were in the midst of cleaning up after the troll on two different pages; I saw the error but decided to stop removing content which was being reverted immediately and go to AN/I to try and take care of the troll before more damage was done. So that's my story and I'm sticking' to it.... and hopes for you to have spring soon with out the mud.(Littleolive oil (talk) 23:01, 21 February 2018 (UTC))

Three Bars pedigree question[edit]

The great Three Bars stallion who has an article and is in the AQHA Hall of Fame probably has a large progeny. I have run into another horse with the same name, and montanabw and I have researched her a bit. She is a mare called Three Bars, who was foaled circa 1961. She was a rodeo horse, a bareback bronc bucking horse. I'm trying to learn if she was a "real" Quarter Horse who is related to him. Also, if I create an article about her, what would be the proper name for her, since Three Bars is already taken? Three Bars (horse)? So as not to be confused with the great stallion. She's notable because she is in two rodeo halls of fame. If this is something that you can find relatively easily, great. Put it on hold if you are still as busy as ever, as there is no rush on my side. Thanks! dawnleelynn(talk) 23:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

https://www.canadianprorodeohalloffame.com/inductees.php?year=1989

http://www.prorodeohalloffame.com/inductees/by-category/livestock/three-bars/


 (maybe Three Bars (bucking horse)  )
There is no mare named "Three Bars" in the AQHA computer. Nor are any of her offspring/grandget there in the right time frame. My guess is, she's a grade mare, since neither blurb gives her breeding. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:33, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch! It's not totally surprising since the only things I can find on her in searches are rodeo and rodeo-related topics. Whoever named her was just probably someone that liked that name and thought highly of her, most likely. Obviously, the stallion is much more notable so it's good he got the article name first. dawnleelynn(talk) 23:44, 22 February 2018 (UTC)