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Hi, Earl. Would you please do a better job of being acquainted with Wikipedia's guidelines? An individual point of view (e.g., giving higher visibility to one candidate over another during an election) is not allowed. Also, as a political science graduate, I hoped you would have more respect for the impartiality that references such as Wikipedia require.

Wikipedia is not a tool to help you get people elected!

WarrenGaebel (talk) 18:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)



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Rob Fowler (curler)[edit]

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Scott Bailey (curler)[edit]

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Carolyn Darbyshire[edit]

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Cori Bartel[edit]

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Kari MacLean[edit]

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Tara George[edit]

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Conservative Party of Canada leadership election, 2004[edit]

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File:Gvrdwestvancouver.PNG listed for deletion[edit]

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AFD[edit]

I nominated your Peel Election 2010 article for deletion just now. Have a wonderful evening. Rasputin72 (talk) 04:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Emma Miskew[edit]

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Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

I saw that you have created quite a good number of articles,[1] which is certainly quite excellent. However, I was wondering if you had seen a recent RfC on BLPs. There seems to be a strong consensus moving towards deleting (eventually) all unreferenced BLPs. I took a quick scan of some of yours, and I saw that unfortunately, a good number of them were unreferenced BLPs. I was wondering if you might be able to clean them up by sourcing them, so that we don't lose the useful information. Thanks, NW (Talk) 19:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

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  4. Holger Höhne - Find sources: "Holger Höhne" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference
  5. Andreas Lang - Find sources: "Andreas Lang" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference
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11. Marianne Rørvik
12. Lana Vey
13. Marla Mallett
14. Chris Gardner (curler)
15. Marliese Kasner
16. Lianne Sobey
17. Jodie deSolla
18. Kevin Stittle
19. Isabelle Rampling
20. Chris Cook (sailor)
21. Janine Hanson
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40. Al Hackner
41. Bob Ursel
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47. Laine Peters
48. Peg Goss
49. Dawn Askin
50. Chelsey Bell
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52. Joëlle Sabourin
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54. Peter Corner
55. Martin Ferland
56. Maureen Bonar
57. Heather Rankin
58. Randy Hoback
59. Greg McAulay
60. Simon Strübin
61. Markus Eggler
62. David Smith (curler)
63. Jan Thoresen
64. Uli Kapp
65. Teemu Salo
66. Jani Sullanmaa
67. Kalle Kiiskinen
68. Todd Birr
69. Natalie Nicholson
70. Nicole Joraanstad
71. Steve Laycock
72. Marco Berthelot
73. Robert Campbell (curler)
74. Dave Nantes
75. Mike Wood (curler)
76. Marc Kennedy
77. Dean Joanisse
78. Peter Gallant
79. Pierre Charette
80. Stefanie Clark
81. Carol Whitaker
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83. Meredith Harrison
84. Shelley Nichols
85. Renee Simons
86. Sasha Carter
87. Jeanna Schraeder
88. Susan O'Connor
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90. Anne Merklinger
91. Cathy Cunningham
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95. Thomas Ulsrud
96. Sebastian Stock
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98. Monika Wagner
99. Allison Pottinger
100. Silvana Tirinzoni
101. Craig Savill
102. Andrew Gibson
103. Steve Gould (curler)
104. Don Bartlett
105. Brent Laing
106. Rob Harris (curler)
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108. Carter Rycroft
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130. Marie-France Larouche
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137. Dale Johnston
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186. Larry McCormick (Canadian politician)
187. Dianne Brushett
188. Russ Howard
189. Christian Jobin
190. Daniel Giguère
191. Peter Goldring
192. Réginald Bélair
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{{Template:Infobox curler}}[edit]

Any chance at birth date/death date parameters? Thanks, Connormah (talk | contribs) 04:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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Please see here. –xenotalk 20:31, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

You got here before me. :P Thank you Xeno. AgneCheese/Wine 20:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

2010 United States Women's Curling Championships[edit]

Hello Earl Andrew,

I noticed that you and I have been in disagreement with someone named Agne regarding the inclusion of all curlers at the 2010 US Women's Nationals in Curling.

I'm somewhat new to wikipedia so I'm curiously what is the final status? It seems as though you had the page protected, but then she had it unprotected. Is it currently open to updates?

Have you had any other issues with Agne? It seems as though this is the only wikipedia page related to curling that she has edited and/or contributed to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SargentIV (talkcontribs) 22:40, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


Well, what is rather upsetting is that Agne has done this twice. She did write in her initial comments that most athletes will never have biographies and so after I undo her deletions I quickly added articles on Jordan Moulton and some of the others who didn't have pages.

I read some of her conversation with another user. Agne seems upset about red linking. I don't understand why she just unlinks them and they'll be listed in black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SargentIV (talkcontribs) 03:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Comment to Sargent and Earl[edit]

I belong to a wine club with some of the women listed on that page and have met several more through my attendance of curling events. At the Olympics this past week, I was approached by a few of these women because one of their stalkers found out that they were going to Kalamazoo based on this Wikipedia page. This started a larger discussion as several of these women were shocked that they would even be mentioned on Wikipedia and they all shared a growing concern about the invasion of their privacy that could occur not only with the prominent featuring of Wikipedia pages on Google but also the potential vandalism that could come redlinks inviting articles to be created. I tried to assure them Wikipedia has policies like WP:ATHLETE and WP:BLP1E that protect regular private citizens like them from this type of intrusion. Needless to say that this episode has distraught them greatly and the woman who stalker directly found her because of the Wikipedia page may have to pull out the nationals because of this.
Obviously, woman curlers are open to some degree of risk and exposure because of the USCA website but the USCA is FAR LESS prominent on Google searches for people's name than Wikipedia is. For one of these curlers, the USCA page was buried after 8 google pages filled with links about other people and different events. She felt some security that she could enjoy a week of curling without her stalker so easily finding her. Once this Wikipedia page came up it became the #1 link when you searched for her name. I can not emphasize enough the amount of stress that this has caused a real, living person--not just some name on a Wikipedia page.
I don't know how familiar you guys are with US Women's curling but it is nothing like the Scotties or Canadian Women Olympic Events. Most of these women do not compete on the world curling tour and many of them will never reached the highest level of curling in the World's or Olympic. Many of these women just signed up to go to nationals because there were open slots available and they wanted a week away from work and the kids where they could just have fun curling. These women never dreamed that their privacy would be so prominently invaded by Wikipedia and their own personal safety put further at risk because of a simple Wikipedia page.
I understand that your intentions were only the best and I don't begrudge you for your original edits. But please, look within yourself and place your self in these women's shoes. Not all of these women have Olympic aspirations and curling in the US is not like curling in Canada. These are regular people and they don't deserve this. There is no encyclopedic benefit and only the potential for real life harm. The damage is already done but curling is about doing the right thing-calling yourself on a burn rock and shaking when the game is out of hand. All I can ask is that you guys do the right thing. Please consider the compromise edit that I tried to do. AgneCheese/Wine 04:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I understand your concerns. I hope my compromise will be good enough? I mean, the stalkers are going to find away if they are truly determined, just listing them on Wikipedia won't make a difference. They don't need to be red-linked, however. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Earl, the names will still appear on Google searches. While yes, a truly determined stalker will find anything, that doesn't mean we should help them along? Plus it is more than just the one stalker, several of these women were uncomfortable with the idea of their names being published on Wikipedia when they have no aspirations of going to the Olympics and Worlds. They just want to be curlers and have fun but this has left them feeling very violated. Again, please. Do the right thing. The inclusion of the name of obscure, non-notable vice, 2nds and leads on Wikipedia does nothing to help the sport of Curling and in this case has dreadfully hurt a real life person. AgneCheese/Wine 04:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to seem insensitive, but I really don't think their inclusion in the article is going to hurt anything. It's not fair to include some curlers (the skips) and not the other team mates. They are just as much members of the team. Again, if there are stalkers out there, this is an issue to take up with law enforcement, not on Wikipedia. Anyways, I'm not entirely sure how removing their names are going to help any. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
But these women never asked to be included. They were not competing at the Scotties, a WTC Grand Slam Event or Worlds. These were just private citizens but Wikipedia has thrusted them into a limelight. While we can't undo the damage with this particular stalker, we can still do the right thing. There is no encyclopedic benefit to including the names of non-notable curlers and we can find a way to include the notable ones. AgneCheese/Wine 04:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
No one asks to be included in Wikipedia. One would think that if you play in a national championships in any event, one would fall under some level of publicity, however minor. Also, I would disagree with it not being of encyclopedic benefit. That's the whole reason why I'm defending their inclusion. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
But the US women's national curling is not at the same level of other national curling events. It is sign up and go. It doesn't have the same kind of publicity or exposure that events like the Canadians women's championship had. These women had no reason to expect the kind of exposure that would warrant their name on a Wikipedia page. At most, they could expect coverage from the USCA website and posts on the Curling Zone. Since this event was no where near the highest level of their sport, they had no reason to ever think they would be included in Wikipedia. The skips, maybe, since teams (especially here in the US) are known under their skips name but the vices, 2nd and leads rightfully had more reason to believe that policies like WP:ATHLETE (and at the very least WP:BLP1E) would protect them. AgneCheese/Wine 04:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
It's still a national championship for an Olympic sport for a country with 300 million people (and I believe has the second most amount of curlers in the world). I can't really see the harm of just listing their names. I can't see how a stalker could get any more information from that. No more damage than already has happened. And while team names are the same names as their skips, they are still just one player on the team. Listing just them undermines the other three players. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:42, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
No it doesn't. Teams are known by their skip names-The Brown Rink, Coleman Rink, Lank Rink or Team Martin, Team Ferby, etc. It is a common part of the sport. AgneCheese/Wine 05:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I never said they weren't known by those names, but just listing one name undermines the other members of the team. Many non skips will tell you that, myself included. A skip is just 1/4 of a team. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Earl, This is not about undermining anyone. This about the reasonable expectation of privacy that private citizens can have and the encyclopedic benefit vs potential harm. What is accomplished by listing the names of non-notable athletes that couldn't be accomplished by a link to the USCA page with full rosters? That way it doesn't show up on a google search of these individuals names which protects the BLP concerns of these folks. This also insures that those who are truly interested in the curling and the names of these non-notable curlers can still find the information from this page--which just being a little more responsible in how we present the info and avoiding Google. We keep all the benefit of any encyclopedic information and minimize the potential harm. Seems like a win-win solution. AgneCheese/Wine 05:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not in the business of protecting people. That's why we have law enforcement. We are in the business of providing information. I am just taking that side. I am trying to get in the mind of a stalker and see how Wikipedia would benefit their cause, and I really can't see how it would. If they already know who they're stalking, Wikipedia is not going to be their starting point. The same is the case for would-be stalkers. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
It is not about protecting people. It is about simply being responsible. When the location of where someone is going to be next week is the #1 hit on google for their name vs way back on page 8 after pages of non-related articles about different people and things, that is a HUGE shift in exposure for an individual. Having your name listed on the USCA page versus Wikipedia can be dramatic, especially if your name is somewhat common. If these were celebrities, multi-millionaire dollar athletes playing at the highest level of their sport, or even just people whose participation in the an event is noted by multiple independent, reliable sources, this would be entirely different. But these were folks, for many of whom, there only tangible connection to being in Kalamazoo next week was the USCA curling page. Yet, Wikipedia came and shoved them into the limelight. Can you honestly say that there is more encyclopedic benefit to listing the names of these non-notable curlers versus a simple link to the USCA roster page? Can you honestly say that net encyclopedic benefit outweighs the harm that comes with shoving their names into the Google limelight? AgneCheese/Wine 05:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, so let's think about some hypothetical stalkers. How are they going to use Wikipedia to find out about their victim when there are just names? They can follow the link, but if they're getting to the page in the first place, they aren't searching for names, they're searching for the topic (as they haven't picked their victims yet). If we're talking existing stalkers, then obviously they're obviously going to already know they're going to be in Kalamazoo. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:53, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Earl, I can't get into all the details about someone else's private situation but I do know that apparently this individual wasn't that tech savvy and wasn't aware that this women was going to Kalamazoo until Wikipedia made her location link #1 on Google. We don't need to explore this stalker situation further. It happened and now this women has to deal with the fall back of Wikipedia's actions. The only question now is where do we go from here. You still didn't answer my questions Can you honestly say that there is more encyclopedic benefit to listing the names of these non-notable curlers versus a simple link to the USCA roster page? Can you honestly say that net encyclopedic benefit outweighs the harm that comes with shoving their names into the Google limelight? How can we present this information more responsibly in the future? AgneCheese/Wine 06:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't know the stalker situation. I suppose it was initiated offline. While Wikipedia may help him find her next week, it wont be the weapon of choice for finding her on other occasions, as obviously he knows her in an offline fashion. I'm not here to debate whether there is a benefit for encyclopedic content, but I do believe this content to be encyclopedic. Does it outweigh the harm? That's not for me to decide, but I don't believe there is much harm in the first place.-- Earl Andrew - talk 06:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not feeling comfortable sharing more details about someone else's personal live. But yes, as an editor and just simply as a human being, it IS for you to decide if your actions cause more harm that good. We have a potential compromise where the encyclopedic integrity of the information is maintained yet we are doing it in a much more responsible manner that avoid Google picking up these people's name. Your stated goal of having the information available for the reader is still being fulfilled but you need to decide if "winning" this battle is worth playing with other people's lives. You have alternatives, please consider the compromise. Please do the right thing. AgneCheese/Wine 06:20, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
You don't have to provide any information about what happened, but I think I have stated how all possible situations would not be Wikipedia's fault. Again, I am not here to debate whether my actions are for harm or for good. I am not the stalker. This is not my fault. That is the harm in this situation. I am not doing anything illegal. If someone's life is harmed, I hold no responsibility. It is the action of the stalker. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:25, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Ultimately, we all have responsibility to edit responsibly. We can choose how we present the information. You have been informed that the information you insist on keeping in this article is providing harm to living people-real people, real lives. You have alternatives available that allow you to still present this encyclopedic information but in a more responsible way that minimizes the potential harm to these real people. While stalkers make their choices, we can make our own. I made my choice to challenge this information as contrary to Wikipedia's ideal and contrary to just plain human decency. What is your choice? AgneCheese/Wine 06:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I choose to blame the stalker for his actions. I can't be responsible for what anyone else does. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Earl, that is very sad. I'm sorry that you feel that Wikipedia doesn't need to be responsible for how it presents information. That is completely contrary to WP:BLP. I am very sorry that you have such casual regard for others and not willing to work on a compromise solution. AgneCheese/Wine 06:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not going to make decisions based on emotions. I am here to present information. If there is a problem with a legal matter, that's someone else's problem. I feel sorry for the victims, but again, not my fault. I tried a compromise, but it wasn't acceptable to you. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Fortunately there is no need to base this decision upon emotions. Notability is a guideline; BLP is policy. The guideline is obviously flawed in how it would handle this situation and BLP has clear and present applicability. Durova412 19:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

3RR on 2010 United States Women's Curling Championship[edit]

Rather than discussing the issue the talk page, you have again reverted to your preferred version on this article (albeit without redlinks). You are in danger of violating WP:3RR with your edits, when instead you should be working out a compromise. Please do not further revert the article, but instead discuss the issue and come to a consensus on what needs to be done. Thanks for your cooperation. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking this was a compromise? -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:24, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I didn't see any discussion that came to that conclusion. All the discussion I've seen doesn't come to this conclusion. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I thought it would be a good compromise. I know now that it wasn't. It was just an honest attempt, and it was in good faith. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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My Apology[edit]

I'm sorry for the confusion over Norberg's wiki article here I did not know how to place her medal table and info box together into the article and became very confused. I'm just happy I got the photo for her article as all the other pictures on flickr were obvious copyvios. With kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:04, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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Peer Review: David Lewis (politician)[edit]

Hi Earl, wondering if you'd be interested in peer reviewing an article I've been working on over the past few years, David Lewis (politician). It recently went through a major rewrite, and I would really like to get this article up to feature status. Take care, --Abebenjoe(talk) 19:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


2010 Women's Curling World Championships - Page Playoff Bracket[edit]

Earl - I just tried creating a new Page Playoff Bracket on the 2010 Ford World Women's Curling Championship page much like you did with the 2010 Vancouver Olympics in the men's tournament to show the tiebreaker match. None of my attempts seemed to work. Does a new template need to be created in order to add a fourth round to the Page Playoff Bracket?

Thankyou[edit]

Thankyou for taking the time to add the {{Curling}} Template to most of the Curling articles. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 14:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


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New pages[edit]

Just a reminder, when creating new pages please remember to tag the Talk pages. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 19:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks, I'll take a look through it and hopefully come up with something useful. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 21:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Dude seriously[edit]

I hate these little disagreements since quite frankly they are over the stupidest things, I have a suggestion if you have any problems with my marking on the importance then feel free to leave a comment on my talk page, because thats why its there, I bring this up mainly due to Talk:Men with Brooms, I did recognise your edit summary so I have to say this, lets try and pay attention to our actual assessment scale rather than the other projects, because if you looked around you just might find they have their own Assessment scale so maybe they mark them a little differently than ours, and if you do take the time to look then you might find it fails our assessment for B. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 18:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

AListen I'm not saying we get to decide what articles are going to be Featured, though we do if we can put enough information in the article to fit the criteria, pretty much what I'm referring to in all this is the fact it fails #1 and probably #4 and #5 of the B Class Criteria, just because other projects rate something so doesn't make it so. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 23:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

My personal opinion is the World Championships are only high importance if they are current, only ones which are high out of that circumstance are the 2005 where the Page Playoffs were implemented. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 14:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC) Let me put it this way with your assessments, I understand they are of some great importance if they weren't then they wouldn't be on Wikipedia, say I'm looking for some work, when there are near 200 articles in Top and High importance, how do I know what is really important to the project and what I should concentrate on later when there are 200 in high and top, a project of our size should not have as many articles in those 2 categories when combined. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 15:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I know its not that big of a deal to an extent but it is at some level, WP:Tennis has 12k articles attached to it, a lot unassessed as they are, there are still only 300 at most of Top and High importance, at the rate the project is going with the assessment it'd look to be 75% at that level, I think its just better we get the assessing correct now than have the long boring job of reassessing later. Afro (Blah Blah Here) - Afkatk 15:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kawartha Lakes municipal election, 2010[edit]

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Canadian Maps[edit]

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Amerada[edit]

A little late, but indeed I do remember you. Those were the days. Kaiser matias (talk) 04:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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David Lewis article[edit]

Could you please support the FA vote for David Lewis (politician). There aren't any real issues being brought up, but neither are people overwhelmed to support it. It's a feature quality article, but most people that look at FA requests, couldn't care less about Canadian politicians.Abebenjoe (talk) 01:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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Recent edits[edit]

Hi Earl, I undid all your recent edits adding full names of Canadian prime ministers to the infoboxes. I feel it's unnecessary, and adds unneeded clutter to the infoboxes (plus, the full name is in the lead, already). I remember reading somewhere what it's s common practice to just add the common name in the infobox - most politicians have it that way anyways. Cheers! Connormahtalk 20:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Really? I just don't feel it's appropriate for the prime ministers to have the long names in the infobox - it just adds clutter, and repetitiveness. I did read one in a guideline that a common name is preferable for infoboxes, but we can at aleast keep it consistent between prime ministers. Connormahtalk 22:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I was referring to their 'common name', not a short name. I'll look at the other articles. Connormahtalk 00:39, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

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Invitation to join Wikiproject Ontario Roads[edit]

Hey, I've noticed a lot of your edits in recent weeks to roads in the Ottawa area. I thought I'd give you an invite to the new Ontario Roads WikiProject that I revived earlier this year. The US Road project has become quite well coordinated in the last couple of years and alongside them we've begun to craft global guidelines for the design of road articles (see WP:RJL for example). I'm hoping you'll be interested in joining, as it looks like you have a fair bit of editing experience that would be really beneficial. Cheers, ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 18:24, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Deleted BLP Ray Joseph Cormier[edit]

Earl, remembering your support in the past concerning deletion of the BLP last November, it may interest you to know several versions of it just showed up on the Internet in the last week. I have no idea how this happens, but it did.

http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Ray_Joseph_Cormier#cite_note-5

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier

http://nabut.com/show_page.php?text_dir=ltr&result_id=142980918&title=Ray%20Joseph%20Cormier#Rexy11

http://www.wikigrain.org/?req=Ray+Joseph+Cormier

You may also be interested in these self published reports on CNN,

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-65703

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-402662

I hope all is well with you and again, your support was much appreciated. Peace Ray Joseph Cormier DoDaCanaDa (talk) 12:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Those are Wikipedia mirror sites, they will be gone soon enough. They did not just appear in the last week. BTW, there is still hope for your information, you could put it on this page: Independent candidates, 1997 Canadian federal election -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I know they are mirror sites, but they did not show up in a Google search of my name a week earlier. I am curious to know how that happens. As you know, all the newspaper reports on my activities are pre-Internet, and some have appeared in a Google search and then just as quickly disappear. I don't know how that happens either. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 11:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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ESPW edits[edit]

What is ti that you have against my edits? They are unbiased, edited and referenced. They also include much of the previous information. What is your problem? Incidentally, the 24hr rule goes both ways. I do notice that others have problems with your posts. The proper proceedure is to comment on submissions via discussions. I'm a fast learner.----espw

Charlie Angus[edit]

Nothing else on the Charlie Angus page is sourced... You sir are helping the NDP insult democracy with your "editing"! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.205.42 (talk) 16:22, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Municipal election results[edit]

Thanks for filling in so many numbers for the election results in the Waterloo Region municipal elections, 2010 article. --thirty-seven (talk) 19:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Template request[edit]

Hi Earl, I'd be happy to work on a solution. Real life is interfering at the moment (process of getting a new job and new residence) but hopefully that will calm down in a few weeks and I can get back to doing fun things for a change. Huntster (t @ c) 19:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

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