User talk:Ebyabe

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Villa Vizcaya, in Miami. I took this photo, as well as the others on this page. Plus about 20,000 or so others.
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Nohat-logo-XI-big-text.png This user is one of the 200 most active English Wikipedians of all time.
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À ringraziè vi (Corsican), Zikomo (Chichewa)


Wiliwni (Abenaki), ngiyabona (Zulu)

That's thank you, from A to Z (by word or language). Sometimes I'm not good about thanking folks who thank me for my aimless fiddling around on Wikipedia. So in case I do forget, this should cover it. If you'd like more words of appreciaton, find them here.

Hey, they even have translations of the classic My hovercraft is full of eels!

Here (and on my user page) are a few of the photos I've taken in my NRHP roadtrips. More to be found here.

A kitten for you![edit]

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No one should have to put up with the ridiculous BS you went through. Take care.

Sro23 (talk) 09:14, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Actually, I find it amusing. It also appealed to my Don Quixote side. And 'ian rose', where the frack did he get that from? I know we're supposed to assume good faith, but child seriously needs to get back on their meds. Cheers.  :) --Ebyabe talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 09:55, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Spider-Man in Film (Cannon Films)[edit]

What the hell did you just do, I added info so that it could be true than any Wikipedia member could just revert it back to as it, as Ted Newsom corrected the info before, and I added some which I got from Ted Newsom, so I could add it in so it could be true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesLeung1987 (talkcontribs) 06:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Read WP:NOTTRUTH. None of the info you added was reliably sourced, therefore editors have every right to remove it. It's your job to support new information being introduced with citations per WP:BURDEN. Sro23 (talk) 06:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
What Sro said. --Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 06:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
And since you've been indefinitely blocked, I guess you've answered your own question. Toodles. --Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 06:44, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Peyton List[edit]

Why you don't accept my modification at Peyton List (actress, born in 1998 ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samyjen (talkcontribs) 18:10, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

If you mean Peyton List (actress, born 1998), it is because you do not own the copyright to the images you uploaded. --Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 18:22, 4 July 2016 (UTC)


Housefull3 collected 187.36crore.Why you not updating Itsapu (talk) 06:38, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

@Itsapu: Please restate your request in full sentences. What is Housefull3? What are crore? What reliable sources do you have to make this change, to whatever it is? Thank you. --Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 06:42, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Orphan tagging[edit]

I noticed that in your AWB run to update the NRHP templates, you're also adding orphan tags to a lot of articles. Since all those articles are at minimum linked to from the county lists, that doesn't seem like something we'd want to do en masse, even if the orphan tag can technically be applied to articles with only one inbound link. TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 00:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

You have a point. I'll turn off the autotag. I'm more concerned about adding the state-specific templates I'm creating anyway, and getting rid of the 'Registered Historic Places' template in the process. Cheers!  :) --Ebyabe talk - Inspector General ‖ 00:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Trap Happy[edit]

Is it okay if I add "BOOM!" line in the page after the bomb explodes. Marole3 (talk) 01:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

No. --Ebyabe talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 01:27, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Could you help me?[edit]

Hi Ebyabe. I'm user:lakemirror. You came to my attention from a simple edit you made to Camp Mack's River Resort, where you added an advert tag. I have since read several of your edits and some of your talk page, and I like your style. My experience as a wikipedia editor is limited and I'd like to take a stab at "fiddling around with wikipedia" (in your words) in a more meaningful way.

I'm thinking that the Camp Mack article could be my first project. user:campmack, the creator and main contributor to that page, has started dropping links to it on the Winter Haven, Florida (my hometown) article, which I and at least one other editor have been removing them.

Here are the issues that I see so far. First, the links on the Winter Haven page are promotional IMO, and I'd like to convince campmack of that. Second, the entire Camp Mack article seems to read like a brochure, as you pointed out with your advert tag. Further, in no specific order: while there are some references on the Camp Mack page, much is either unreferenced, referenced by inline external links, etc; the page seems to have COI and NPOV issues; the user name campmack itself might violate policy.

You've seen the page. Could you take a look at it again and tell me what you would do? I have no dog in this fight, I live in Winter Haven and I've been to Camp Mack but otherwise have no interest other than wanting to help. Advice? Lakemirror (talk) 17:58, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. That user hasn't done any edits since the end of May, so the problem may have taken care of itself. I did go ahead ahead and report the user and article at the Conflict of interest noticeboard, since it's pretty obvious there is one. Things should take their course now. Btw, when I saw your username, at first I thought you might be from Lakeland. You know, b/c of this. Any other questions and such, I'm here. Cheers!  :) --Ebyabe talk - Border Town ‖ 18:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
I also noticed you've been on Wikipedida almost as long as I have. Hey old-timer. ;) --Ebyabe talk - Welfare State ‖ 18:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Cool! I'll watch the progress there. The user is still active but looks like he got some help with editing the Camp Mack page. There is a Lake Mirror in Winter Haven as well, on the chain...that's my stomping ground. Thanks very much! Lakemirror (talk) 18:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Trivia/Disruptive editing[edit]

I sent a message to a user about adding trivia section, but they reverted it and didn't reply. Why don't you see the revisions like in 2009. They had trivia. Marole3 (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

This is 2016, not 2009. Things have changed. See WP:TRIVIA for more info. --Ebyabe talk - Border Town ‖ 20:59, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
You seem to have asked this same question several places under several identities. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Marole3. - SummerPhDv2.0 00:47, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect application of WP:Notability guideline.[edit]

You recent edit at Peter Davison with the Edit Summary of "remove bio info of nonnotable children" was an incorrect application of WP:Notability. Content within articles is never determined based on notability. The sole function of WP:N is to determine if "whether the topic should have its own article." The guideline also states: "These guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not limit the content of an article or list. " and also states: "The criteria applied to article creation/retention are not the same as those applied to article content. The notability guidelines do not apply to article or list content (with the exception that some lists restrict inclusion to notable items or people)." This is a biographical article and not a list so those rare exceptions do not apply. Finally the material removed was well sourced and fully in compliance with WP:BLP. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 04:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

OK. --Ebyabe talk - State of the Union ‖ 05:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Koala Tea Of Mercy: WP:NPF pretty clearly discourages including info (e.g. names) on non-notable public figures in the articles of notable public figures. Frankly, there needs to be a massively compelling reason to include the names of the "minor children" in the articles of public figures – passing mentions in something like People magazine really aren't enough in the opinions of many editors. --IJBall (contribstalk) 06:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
@IJBall: Appreciate the input. First and foremost the biggest issue I had was using WP:N to justify the removal of content within an article. I see that guideline abused far too often by well-intentioned people who do not correctly understand its function at Wikipedia. There might or might not be other reasons for removing the sourced material but WP:notability is not a valid one. That being said, I am not 100% in agreement with your reading of WP:NPF as requiring "a massively compelling reason", language I do not find in the guideline at all. Many WP articles on living and deceased people include their immediate ancestry and progeny, as the names of a person's parents and children are a rather important part of any person's biography. However since I do not work often in BLP articles I admit I will need to do my research into the history of this guideline before attempting to argue too strenuously. Face-smile.svg Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 10:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @IJBall:, @Ebyabe:: Okay. I did some research and I found there definitely were/are several valid reasons for removing the names and other details. The first reason (as correctly pointed out by DonQuixote here) is WP:BLPNAME: the kids are not immediate progeny, they are his grand-kids (by his daughter G.M. and her husband D.T.) and as such fail the provision of that policy section. The second reason is a clear violation of WP:BLP itself, the name that was listed for the most recent child is not sourced at all (no such name is anywhere in the references provided) and with the exception of two very unreliable sources[1][2] is not even findable on the internet. For all we know this name could be pure fan speculation and so that name must be removed immediately. The third reason brings us back to WP:BLPNAME and WP:NPF in that the parents (GM and DT) have pointedly made it clear they do not wish to publicize the details of their private lives. Other than the fact that they have announced the births and therefor it is appropriate to include the quantity of children, no details about the children should be provided in any of the three articles I have mentioned. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 12:01, 22 July 2016 (UTC)