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"No such titles"

Hi! Could you please explain why you are moving articles about princes saying that they do not hold the title? Surtsicna (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I mean there should not be such titles of princess, prince in the TITLES of the articles. You may refer to related WP guidelines which I could not specify for now, unfortunately. Thanks,Egeymi (talk) 21:50, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
I am afraid you are mistaken. You may refer to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility). Surtsicna (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for giving the related guidelines. I used the first rule, stating "Article titles are not normally prefixed with "King", "Queen", "Emperor" or equivalent." In regard to my last moves, I used the surname of Princess Fawzia (Fawzia Chirine, after her second marriage) who was called as the article title after the abdication of her brother, losing her royal titles. I am afraid I am not mistaken. However, if I did anything wrong, then please revert my moves. Thanks,Egeymi (talk) 22:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Infobox person

If you look in articles like Osama bin Laden or George W. Bush (just to take randomly two very much edited articles), the | religion= parameter normally specifies the sect, not just the general religion supercategorial term (Islam, Christianity etc.) So please stop making such changes, unless you are ready to challenge the consensus on the template's talk page. --hydrox (talk) 11:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I tried to find the "consensus" on the page you mentioned, but I could not. Could you please give the exact page or archive number? Egeymi (talk) 12:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
I am not saying there is any talk page thread that discusses this. Probably there is not. I am saying, that there are other articles that are much more edited than the ones you have been recently changing, where a much larger number of editors see no problem with specifying the sect with in the religion parameter. But if you still feel like that this is not right, I can bring it up on the infobox's talk page to seek wider editor input. I personally see no problem with specifying the sect with the person's religion. --hydrox (talk) 16:53, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks Egeymi.--Georgethewriter (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

you deleted me

You seem to have inadvertently [deleted my comments on the Belmokhtar thread. I have restored mine, but you will need to restore your comments and indent them how you like. Thanks

Done, thanks Medeis. Egeymi (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sameh Fahmi

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Kudos

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A small token of appreciation for your amazing work on Lebanon related articles, your valuable contributions are of the highest caliber.Eli+ 14:16, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your appreciation Elie+. I'm happy to receive positive feedback from a dear Lebanese. However, I should say not my work but LEBANON and its history are amazing. Egeymi (talk) 14:24, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I also want to say that it is like a sun, I like it very much. Egeymi (talk) 19:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
it's well deserve it... and I like it very much too :P, where r u from, if you don't mind me asking, cos you seem to know a lot about a great variety of topics... i NV you :P ? Eli+ 21:24, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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no hurry

  • yes but we should not hurry because the source i give from okaz paper which i put on seeta's article says that her husband name is Abdullah Bin Mohammed Bin Saud Al-Kabeer whom she had five children Fahd, Bandar, Turki, Nov and Nora. and the current deputy defence minister full name is fahad bin abdullah bin mohammed bin abdullrahman bin faisal. See the difference.--George the writer (talk) 2:30 pm, Today (UTC+4) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgethewriter (talkcontribs) 10:36, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
You may check another article from Arab News I put on talk page of Fahd. It also gives three sons of Seeta and one of them is Fahd, being described as assistant defence and aviation minister. I think Fahd is Seeta's son. Egeymi (talk) 10:40, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
very confusing, OK I will wait. Egeymi (talk) 10:41, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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see this [ http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/11/06/175682.html source ] right below the picture of prince fahad been the head of civil aviation since 2011. --George the writer (talk) 07:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I know this, but we need the name of great great father, since there is also Faisal bin Abdullah bin Mohammed, so there can be other person. In addition, any news report about Fahd's appointment gives this post as one of past experience. I think you should not hurry this time. Egeymi (talk) 07:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Arabic source put his picture, ok.Egeymi (talk) 07:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
I brought you a source confirms that there are two princes hold the name with different faces, check this out [1].--George the writer (talk) 14:09, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for article, and your edits or corrections on the article of other Prince Fahd. Egeymi (talk) 16:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Regarding prince Fahad of General Authority of Aviation

I found his picture about 25 years ago and the name is attached with Fahad bin Abdullah bin Mohammed bin Saud Al Kabeer, he is the first from the right. check the faces between this and and this one. --George the writer (talk) 17:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

And after you check them, there is an article here in arabicof a retired Saudi officer mentioned the name of the current General Authority of Aviation president prince Fahad bin Abdullah bin Saud Al kabeer, he didn't include Mohammed! maybe he forgot, I don't know.

what do you think and conclusion of all these! it took the whole day.--George the writer (talk) 18:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

the bint Saud article

The person adding odd items self identifies as hr PR team, something that there is no way of knowing about. Don't worry about anything except Wikipedia guidelines and good taste. I suggest you ignore any emails they send you, too. I distrust the senders of complaining emails. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I will, and the article is now containing only well-sourced info. Thanks for warning, Egeymi (talk) 16:29, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

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Mansour bin Abdulaziz Al Saud

Is it true that Nasser bin Abdulaziz hosted a party where Mansoor died by alcohol poisoning? I mean, can we trust wikileaks information about them!...--George the writer (talk) 06:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

The source says so, but sometimes I recognise that Wleaks documents do not provide 100% correct info. However, it coincides with the career of Prince Nasser and with his subsequent life. In short, I am not sure. Egeymi (talk) 06:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Oi

Don't revert cleanup changes on an article without adding an edit summary or even a talk page edit. Jtrainor (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

What are you talking about, I just corrected "nvolvement" and put "involvement" and put newspaper instead of work in the ref. Are you serious about your statements above or just kidding? Be honest while writing anything on my talk page please and try to be kind.Egeymi (talk) 21:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi! can you see this and the other image? If is free, please upload the pictures. Thanks. Tabarez (talk) 19:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia's requirement for reliable sourcing is particularly strong in articles dealing with living people (see the relevant policy). You've repeatedly inserted a patently inappropriate source at Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh and have edit-warred to retain the inappropriate source. These actions violate WP:BLP, which is among the most fundamental of site policies. Please stop edit-warring to reinsert the source, or your account will be blocked from editing. You can, of course, discuss whether the source may be used on the article talk page or appropriate noticeboards, but barring a strong consensus in its favor please stop re-adding it, as it appears to clearly violate our sourcing standards for biographical material. MastCell Talk 19:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice to learn that it is an inappropriate source. Is there any list of good sources and bad sources? Because WP:BLP and also, WP:SOURCE provide only general framework, WP editors make their own "objective" judgements about these sources. Egeymi (talk) 19:59, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
There are certainly borderline cases, where it can be useful to get input at the reliable source noticeboard or BLP noticeboard. But this isn't a borderline case, all the more so because the same information can be readily sourced from more appropriate venues. MastCell Talk 20:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
These inputs are very subjective. It is my subjective view. Hope you will respect and stop writing on my talkpage. Egeymi (talk) 20:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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How do you think that I did not get your point. So no need to remind it once again. I HAVE UNDERSTOOD. HOPE YOU HAVE ALSO UNDERSTOOD. Egeymi (talk) 22:01, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Indian Queen

Apologies - should have shifted the ref to another further down, as you subsequently have - I lazily just undid the edit rather than look at the consequences. I was probably editing the talk page while you were trying to read it - if you take a look now my comments should be there. I'm questioning the 1 Jan foaling date, which looks to me like a default foaling date used by the RP for old or unavailable dates. --Bcp67 (talk) 08:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for your explanation. I agree with you on the date, although you did not expect it:)) Egeymi (talk) 08:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you - and good luck with racehorse editing, it's great to have as many good editors as possible on this subject! --Bcp67 (talk) 08:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. After reading Estimate, I wanted to deal with these articles and their stories, some happy some not. Egeymi (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Tigerboy, thanks for informing me about the web page. Please be sure that I will check it from now on. If you have any other suggestion or want to share your experience related to the sources please do not hesitate because I do not have any info regarding the reliability of these sources. Thanks again, Egeymi (talk) 21:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Here's your source.

http://www.evi.com/q/facts_about__ali_al-naimi < source.. I hope you dont take this personally , i just wanted to help correct information, having a source doesnt mean it's always trusted.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.126.70.45 (talk) 18:20, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

It is not my source but yours. You are right, having a source doesnt mean it's always trusted. APS Review is a journal about oil sector. But your source ,EVI, is not a publication but just a website. Thus, APS Review is much more reliable. BTW you could not distort the info on the article. What if he is a Shiite? Egeymi (talk) 18:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

He is not a shiite. Here people are known for their origion. AlNaimi(s) are not shiities. You can ask any trusted official Saudi or non-saudi source but LOCAL. I myself are AlNaimi and we are not shiities! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.126.70.45 (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Try to document your claim with a source. Thanks for not deleting at least the source.Egeymi (talk) 18:45, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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I was thinking that you should nominate Mohammed Morsi for GA, as for me, it meets the standards. Lucky102 (talk) 17:03, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

You are right, but the events are still going on, so the article will need to be updated. I think it would be better to wait for a while. Thanks for suggestion Lucky, cheers. Egeymi (talk) 19:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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Why did you delete my comment on ITN? [4] 87.113.216.108 (talk) 20:11, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

BE CALM, I DID NOT. MAYBE DUE TO INTENSE EDIT CONFLICTS IT HAPPENED. WHY DID YOU THINK THAT I DID SO? INSTEAD OF WRITING ON MY TALK PAGE, YOU MAY REWRITE IT Egeymi (talk) 20:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
No need to shout. The diff I provided clearly shows you deleted it. I accept that this was presumably by accident. 87.113.216.108 (talk) 21:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I need to shout because I did not recognize what happened and I do not delete people's comments (you may look at my edit history). Of course it was by accident, why did I want to delete your comment which I also support.Egeymi (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Governmet of Iran

Hi Egeymi! I'm likely to know why you think adding former positions to the articles of the proposed Iranian Ministers is not needed? All politicians have many positions before and some of them must be in the article like member of the Parliament like other articles. In addition, please update Government of Hassan Rouhani (2013–present) and Cabinet of Iran. Also in Vice President of Iran article, Elham Aminzadeh is not First Vice President. Please remove her name from First Vice President list. Thanks a lot. 2.178.169.79 (talk) 06:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your orders:)) First, former positions can be given infoboxes but these are not sourced, either dates or pre or successors. Aminzadeh was removed from the related page yesterday. Regarding update, I will. Cheers, Egeymi (talk) 08:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
They were not orders! They were requests :) Thanks for your help in the articles. I requested you to update the articles. Now, Iran has a new cabinet. Also, This is a version that can help you with adding name of the new ministers. Thanks again. 2.178.169.79 (talk) 18:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I think it will take a lenghty time to fix it, because it is completely based on the former cabinet. I put Rouhani's cabinet as a see also article for now. Egeymi (talk) 18:41, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you provide any English link for confirmations. Thanks, Egeymi (talk) 18:42, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Three nominees have been rejected. Hope you do not make any edit about education, science, research and technology; and sports and youth minister nominees. Egeymi (talk) 18:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Very good and Thanks. But about Cabinet of Iran not yet any change and it is linked to the previous cabinet and also in Government of Hassan Rouhani (2013–present), can you add years of the new ministers? Thanks. 2.178.169.79 (talk) 19:34, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
If you can read Persian, this is a good source for the positions of the new ministers and their biography. If can add to their articles and if not, I do it? 2.178.169.79 (talk) 19:34, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
(Happily:))) I do not know Persian but I find Fars News page giving all votes. By the way, why all Iranian related pages are so poorly sourced. I hope you don't mind my joke about Persian, I hope one day I can read it. I am doing my best to fix all articles, thanks. Egeymi (talk) 19:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you. Unfortunately Iranian, Spanish and Latin American related articles is very poorly in Wikipedia. I very tried to fix Persian articles but my account was blocked for some problems I had. I currently reading Wikipedia's policies but I think if I learn all of it, I can't have another user in Wikipedia! And our problem is in grammar. I will began my work to add notes at that source I said to the articles with my IP! 2.178.169.79 (talk) 19:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks and again Thanks for you help. But my problem is in Cabinet of Iran's article!! Can you request for the end of page's protection? The article is really crazy. They're no need for the CoAs, name of ministers is outdated and very other problems. Please help. 2.178.67.34 (talk) 07:31, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
The article should be changed and from now on it should not be specific to a President except for the list of cabinet members. I will do, but be patient. Each article about former ministers needs update now. Egeymi (talk) 07:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

"Power-hungry"

Such label isn't encyclopedic but subjective and offensive, so please avoid it. --HistorNE (talk) 12:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

No it is very encyclopedic description. Otherwise other adjectives can also be regarded as non encyclopedic. Just put another source saying he is not power-hungry. Here we should represent all views, not only positive ones and those YOU like.Egeymi (talk) 12:57, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
It isn't since it's not majority view and it's pretty outdated source. I added who has described him as such and when, now it's encyclopedic. --HistorNE (talk) 13:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. However, the source is not outdated it gives insights about the current figures. An encyclopedia cannot only focus on present, since present is strongly related to past. Egeymi (talk) 13:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
One more thing: Hope future will not show you "this outdated description" is correct. Egeymi (talk) 13:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome. I agree, but sometimes it can be relative: Mir Hossein Mousavi was once hard-core conservative, many Eastern European politicians were communists, etc. Generally, all presidential candidates are power-hungry by definition, and if some Iranian is power-greedy I guess it's Rafsanjani. --HistorNE (talk) 13:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
You are right, and I think you know that Eastern European politicians do not try to hide their orientation. In short, people's past views are valuable to correctly read their present intentions or actions, because people cannot easily change, and can change only when they love, as Mawlana Rumi said. Egeymi (talk) 13:24, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit-warring with HistorNE

I've noticed that you are in a similar situation on article about Hassan Rouhani, as i'm on Kurdish separatism in Iran (and related articles). Did you see a general tendency of HistorNE to remove reliable sources in other cases except those 2 issues? because i'm starting to think there is a systematic problem in his comprehension of what is WP:NPOV and how different opinions can coexist on wikipedia.Greyshark09 (talk) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Happily not yet, but if I see, I will report. Egeymi (talk) 15:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Relevant discussion about this issue can be found here. I'm sure Egeymi understood that I don't have problems with NPOV, but I'm affraid that's not case with Greyshark. --HistorNE (talk) 15:55, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

its not about arguments , its about facts

it is known that he got only 3 daughters...all account about this alleged son just appeared today from no where after the fake news of the killing...and the nbc news source is just another article with no credible source .....if you got any other source please state it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randvoo12 (talkcontribs) 13:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I think NBC is much more reliable than your knowledge. I put another two sources on your talk page. You may also listen to Al Jazeera. And if thia news is fake, it can also be used for future reference. Egeymi (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Egypt Independent report, Badei has three daughters and a son, tell the people who did not know this fact.Egeymi (talk) 13:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


Al Jazeera has been faking news from the beginning of the clashes ....they might be responsible as well for the current situation getting where it is right now — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randvoo12 (talkcontribs) 13:37, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Bro, you should understand something, you must base your arguments to make them facts. Please do not write anything about your personal view here. I also have personal views about events and everything, but as editors we could not advocate our views. And which source is reliable for you? Thanks, Egeymi (talk) 13:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

it's not my personal view again , or argument, as a fact i dont give a flying **** , i could have re-edited the page but i didnt , because i don't care...but you haven't got any reliable source either .....All are foreign pro morsi agents ....no single reliable or famous egyptian source .....and if you argue against the obvious biased news posted by Al-Jazeera then i dont know what to tell you for real ....but you know you cant get any real source ,you just hated to be re-edited ...any way i'll leave it as it is ..and by the way "ikhwan wiki" now edited his page saying that he has three kids not four ....so you might want to re-edit , it (http://www.ikhwanwiki.com/index.php?title=%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%B9) i think this is reliable enough for you, even though i dont trust them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randvoo12 (talkcontribs) 13:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

What are you talking about? It is Arabic and happily I do not know Arabic. You are giving Ikhwan page as reliable source, very controversial. Egeymi (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I translated it using Google translate, it says "grandchildren "Ammar" (computer engineer), "Bilal" (radiologist), "sacrificed" (student Pharmacy)" Then he was his grandson. Egeymi (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
It says Marital State: Married and has two sons one is Amar – computer engineer - and the other is Belal - a radiologist -, and a daughter called Doha - a student at the faculty of pharmacy.

It is from the bottom of the page. Then what can I say? Egeymi (talk) 14:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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