User talk:Ehrenkater

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Hello, Ehrenkater, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Yes it is the comparative of the adjective dignus (dignus, digniora, dignissimum), the comparative meaning more worthy. cf. with good, better, best. If you are suggesting the usage in the Westminster School article it has been often noted and joked about as it is essentially bad latin, which translation to use is up for debate, perhaps noting the error in the latin in the article can sort it out.

The usage by the school could pssibly be to differenciate from Westminster Under School which uses both dignus and digniora.

Hope to be of assistance Tmwerty (talk) 21:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Cwm Rhondda[edit]

Your recent edit to Cwm Rhondda (concerning there being five, rather than three, Welsh verses) looks interesting. Could you provide a source or citation for this? And for any of the other versions? (We could really do with getting a much of the article properly cited.) If you're not comfortable about formatting the citation, I'm happy to try to do it, if you can provide the information (either a website link or (for a book) title/author/publisher/isbn etc.). (Reply within your page here if you wish.) Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll add a bit more on this. Please feel free to improve the layout etc. Ehrenkater (talk) 12:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks promising. I've just done a fairly major reworking of the article to attempt to give it some better structure; compare this older version to this newer version. I haven't (I hope) changed anything within your material. I also added several references to independent and reliable sources. Do you have references for the older hymnbooks that you mentioned? If so could you add them to the article or (if you are not confident about formatting them) drop a note of them here on your talk page? Thanks again. Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I have added various suggestions for improvements on the talk page for "Cwm Rhondda". Unfortunately the hymn book which I mentioned (although I only purchased it as new around 1995) seems to be too old to have an ISBN, proper publisher's imprint or date of publication. Ehrenkater (talk) 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

  • improvements: I've had a go at some.
  • book: anything would be better than nothing! Title? Any indication of publisher, church? Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Gwynedd in the High Middle Ages[edit]

I love this article, so I hope you don't mind me going through your work every so often picking up typos and so on. Let me know if you're not happy with my (very minor) inputs, and I'll refrain from editing there. I've been thinking about how best to phrase the opening paragraph, given that, in terms of good grammar, "Gwynedd in the High Middle Ages" is not a period, it's a place (in a period). What would you say to :-

Gwynedd is an area in the north of Wales. Gwynedd in the High Middle Ages covers a period of Welsh, British, and European history spanning the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries (AD 1000–1300). The High Middle Ages were preceded by the Early Middle Ages and followed by the Late Middle Ages.

Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Ditto and agree with suggestion Ehrenkater (talk) 23:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I would be very happy to have your help and input. I had placed the one sentence "Gwynedd is in the north of Wales" at the bottom of the opening paragraph, because the following paragraph gives a more detailed location of Gwynedd and it seemed to match better. However, if you feel strongly that the location is best served as the first line, I do not see it as an issue.

I greatly thank you for catching my many many spelling errors! lol. I wish we had spell checker inside or part of Wikipedia. Additionally, as an American, you will notice certin verbage that is completly American, and I would wish that to be "translated" into British English.

May I ask how you discovered the artical? Initially I had started to rewrite the Kingdom of Gwynedd page, but it did become to verbose, and I realized that this periode needs special attention. I plan on doing simular treatment for Powys and Deheubarth, and for Glamorgan and Gwent. Then pull the most important features of all of them together for an artical "Wales in the High Middle Ages".♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 14:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Rhondda Valley[edit]

Thanks for your updates on the Rhondda Valley. I'm trying my best to represent the area, and I will be adding more in the coming week. I understand that my turn of English is cluncky to say the least so appreciate your updates. Please keep following and improving my work. I need it. Thanks.FruitMonkey (talk) 21:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your work on Haslemere, but please note that the Wikipedia convention is to use SI units (metric) followed by imperial in brackets.--Charles (talk) 20:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for correcting my mistake on the Edith of Mercia article. I always thought ferch was verch. I shall not make the same mistake in future. Thanks again.--jeanne (talk) 19:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Snow NorthDowns Feb02 2009.jpg[edit]

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The work of deleting IP vandalism on chem element pages[edit]

Since you're involved, I wonder if you'd like to comment on this discussion on semi-protection for element articles: Thanks! SBHarris 23:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Hard and soft C[edit]

You wrote "Created page with 'This just duplicates the contents of the other article, hard and soft C, so can be redirected." While we might all like the statement to be true, it isn't: for example, it doesn't mention "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious". In any case, redundancy is not necessarily bad. There are many lists in Wikipedia "", and this page fits the category.

Or are you going to delete them all?

Please don't remove content!

Jonathanrcoxhead (talk) 23:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Dumnonii edits June 2009[edit]

Ehrenkater- Thanks for your edits, you've picked up some good points. I've been working on this article for a while now, and you get to a point where you begin to overlook wording and mistakes because you're so used to the article!

The only edit I am not happy about is using the word West Cornwall instead of Southwestern peninsula. Cornwall did not really exist as Cornwall until much later. I know what you mean, but isn't there a better way to word it? Let me know what you think on my talk page! Meur ras! :) Brythonek (talk) 20:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


I noticed you are making some philatelic contributions and hopefully you are knowledgeable enough to continue improving the philatelic articles which is something we really need because there are so few active philatelists around. The WikiProject Philately is a project devoted entirely to philately and you may not be aware of its existence, so you can join us by adding your name and interests to the member list. It would be really great if we were able to continue improving Postage stamps and postal history of Great Britain‎ and maybe even bring it up to Good Article, or even Featured Article. Currently we only have one philatelic Featured Article, Postage stamps of Ireland (incidentally, not to blow my own trumpet, I wrote most of), but with work, good reference and expansion the GB article could also become an FA. Hopefully you have the knowledge, resources and ability to achieve this. If you need any advise please drop me a line. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 16:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


Information.png Hi Ehrenkater! A Top Priority article you have been involved with has many issues and urgently needs improving. If you can help with these issues please see Talk:Northamptonshire, address the different points if you can, and leave any comments there. (This is a generic message. if it has been placed on your talk page inadvertantly, please ignore it.) --Kudpung --Kudpung (talk) 23:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


Hello! You made the article "Kiraly hida". I think this is better that you move Kiraly hida to Királyhida.

I knew this was Burgenland, and historically ruled by Hungarian nobility? (Eszterhazy? Harrach?)

Servus, schenen Tog! --Uponeeds (talk) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

The Documents in the Case[edit]

It's an oddity, though, isn't it? I don't know another work of hers that depends totally on an epistolatory form, though she does use the technique to good effect elsewhere, particularly in Busman's Honeymoon. (Apparently she had been reading The Moonstone and wanted to experiment with the technique of multiple first-person narratives.) I reread it regularly and admire it, but I don't love it in the way I love the Lord Peter works (or even the Montague Egg ones, come to that). I am collecting bits and bobs on her collaborator on this novel "Robert Eustace" (Eustace Barton MD), who also collaborated with crime fiction pioneer Mrs L T Meade and wrote crime fiction on his own account. He appears to have suggested the main plot device - the muscarine-poisoned mushrooms - and also the rather metaphysical theme of Life vs the artificial construct that imitates it but cannot copy it exactly, and all that follows therefrom. I am desperately curious to know whether his influence on the novel was confined to the Big Idea, or whether it actually extended to the contribution of any content at all. I suspect not, but it would be wonderful to know. Karenjc 21:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for your help on on the town's entry. Very much appreciated.

Andy V Byers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy V Byers (talkcontribs) 19:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


You have a point. I didn't write the bit that you quoted, and if you want to delete the word "accurate" I'd have no objection. I actually think that what the EBU is proposing to do is a bad idea. JH (talk page) 17:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Contract bridge[edit]

Hi Ehrenkater! Thank you very much for improving the text quality on the Contract bridge article. Your knowledge on the English language and grammar really makes Wiki a worthwhile encyclopedia. Once again, thank you.
Krenakarore (talk) 19:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Welsh pronunciation of Manawydan and Rhongomyniad[edit]

Thanks for your comments regarding my question! You're of course right about it not being that significant where the semi-vowel 'w' is placed. It is going to be grouped with the following vowel anyway when it is transcribed into Korean, since Korean syllables never end with [w] (one could transcribe it as the vowel 'u', but that would be unwieldy between two vowels). What matters is that I got the following vowel sound of 'y' correct, since the transcription will be different whether the 'y' is clear or obscure. I still haven't received a definitive answer on Rhongomyniad, but I'll keep looking. --Iceager (talk) 06:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Spring Holiday[edit]

Thank you for your recent edits to that page. I am very interested in this topic as well as the Christmas Controversy article, but you made an excellent point that is changing my mind a bit about Easter. Since Easter is not surrounded by other holidays (in the calendar) it seems odd that someone would call Easter the Spring Holiday as a way to be inclusive. That just seems like a way to rename a holiday that has been claimed by Christians. In other words, it would be hard to argue that the term Spring Holiday is anything but hostile toward Christianity. Christmas seems to be a different thing because when you say “Happy Holidays” you might be talking about any number of major holidays celebrated around the same time of the year. What I’m getting at is it seems to me that the term Spring Holiday seems more hostile toward Easter than the term “Holidays” is to Christmas. Your edits have caused me to think that I probably have no logical interest in the Spring Holiday article any longer. I’d love to get your feedback/edits on a few lingering issues in the Christmas Controversy page if you have the time/interest. Elielilamasabachthani (talk) 15:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Sterling in the South Atlantic and the Antarctic[edit]

Ehrenkater, It's just to say thanks for your follow up edits. It was very fast on my heels, but they were good edits. I intend to beef that article up a bit, but I don't have access to the necessary documents at this point in time. David Tombe (talk) 05:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of "Sterling in the South Atlantic and the Antarctic"[edit]

Ehrenkater, you may be interested in having a look at this, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Sterling Currency in the South Atlantic and the Antarctic. David Tombe (talk) 06:08, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Simon paap[edit]

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Atomic orbital article[edit]

Hello. I noticed today that last August 28 you added the following sentence to the article Atomic orbital. "The fifth orbital, now called g, was formerly called t, standing for thick." A few hours later DMacks requested a citation for this statement, which is not found in modern textbooks. Since no citation has been provided even six months later, I deleted the statement today as unsourced. However if you do have a source you can put it back in (with the source), since it is an interesting fact if it can be proved. Dirac66 (talk) 02:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit summary[edit]

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Quite. Pinkbeast (talk) 18:13, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Life expectancy ‎[edit]

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I moved your comment on the pronunciation of Vatnajökull to the talk page. It would be helpful if you had any refs or links to soundfiles. — kwami (talk) 19:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Saint Paulin Church <---- thank you![edit]

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Thank you so much for the great work translating at Talk:Saint Paulin Church. It reads much better now than I thought it could, and you did in a couple of hours what I couldn't have achieved in ten. I'm pleased to have had your help and improvements! Maedin\talk 21:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits[edit]

Hey! Just wanted to say thanks for your useful edits here. Qwerta369 (talk) 12:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Also I want to say Thank you! for your cooperation related to Steinway D-274 . -- AxelKingg (talk) 09:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

If interested - here we go again.. ;-) THX in advance. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by AxelKingg (talkcontribs) 14:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


Say buddy, could you possibly comment on the discussion here? Thanks. Textorus (talk) 22:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Other native German speakers have confirmed that homofuerst is a derogatory word, which someone seems determined to insert in the article: it's been deleted and restored 4 times already. Textorus (talk) 19:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

C.F. Theodore Steinway[edit]

Hi, I see that you, AxelKingg and Textorus have been working on the article C.F. Theodore Steinway: Talk:C.F. Theodore Steinway. I see, that none of you have added the new stuff to the article. I hope one of you will do it. It would make the article better. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 13:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The new material is not my initiative, I just volunteered some help with the translation, so it's not for me to add it in to the article. Ehrenkater 13:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay, but AxelKingg asks for help at the bottom of the talk/discussion page: "Also the modified wordings of Ehrenkater look very OK for me. Please Textorus & Ehrenkater feel free to choose, according to your understanding of "good sounding english" - I cannot decide this, I regret, I only could find no errors in both versions."[1] --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


  • I'd advise you to drop the rhetoric. "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." So which word do you think backs up your allegation against Lightmouse? --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 14:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Aesop Article[edit]

the only update I made was the link becasue it showed duola twice so I changed it to show the name of the page it was being directed to. The rest of the intridcution is not my edit. Im not sure why the whole paragraph was deleted because of that.--very strange edit decision, particulary since references come from a peer reviewed journal and there is no indication of an academic source that justifies the removal, it may benefit to read source to see what is generally agreed about him before making such edits in the future since pupular opinions change over time. sometimes revisiting topics is beneficial since new work exists. (talk) 18:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

List of rivers of England[edit]

Thanks for jumping in so quickly and correcting the Thames tributaries which I've made special mention of in the talk page to the article. cheers Geopersona (talk) 18:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Wynebald de Ballon[edit]

I note you have affixed a "Refimprove" tag to the above article. I would be most willing to improve it if only you would indicate on its talk page (or in your absent edit summary) what the problem is with the article in your opinion. 21 footnotes and 3 sources are already given. As there was no obvious reason for the tag and no suggestion of areas for improvement, I have removed the tag. Reapply it if you wish, but please at the same time give some indication of areas for improvement. Thanks.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 14:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC))

I did not add a "Refimprove" tag to the article. The tag was added by user Michaelmas1957 on 7 November --Ehrenkater (talk) 15:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

North Downs Line[edit]

Hi, what is your source for this? There are two separate assertions here, and I have trouble with both.

  • First, and most difficult to believe, is that "the company was a joint venture with the GWR" - the line was built to 4 ft 8 12 in (1,435 mm) gauge, whereas the GWR at that time was entirely to 84 gauge - a difference of 50%. GWR trains would simply not have been able to run over the line. If the railway had been joint with the GWR, why did it need to go to the expense of building its own station at Reading? Surely it would have been able to share the GWR's station - providing mixed-gauge tracks at some of the platforms would have been far cheaper.
  • Second, "it was never intended as an independent railway company" - why did it then go to the bother of creating a company (Reading, Guildford and Reigate Railway) and selling shares to private investors?

Please add your reference sources to the North Downs Line article. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, and I have amended the section of the article to take account of them, including adding a reference source. The answers to your second question appear to be (a) that Parliament was unwilling to grant authorisation to the SER to build the line itself, although a bill was deposited to that effect in respect of the Redhill to Dorking section, and (b) that the "independent" shareholdings were used to buy out the shareholders of two competing companies, namely the Reading and Reigate Atmospheric Company and the Reading and Reigate Company. --Ehrenkater (talk) 14:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I've got one additional 'quibble' with the same set of edits. You've slightly altered the last sentence in the lede to read: "The line runs roughly parallel to, and below, the North Downs escarpment between Ash and Redhill." My problem comes with the term below, which could be taken to mean at a lower level than as in common usage. In a more academic geological usage though, the phrase below the escarpment is more specific and (in this case) would mean that the line was immediately to the south of the steepest slope of the Downs; for the NDL this is only strictly true between Gomshall and Reigate. (West of Gomshall until Shalford the line runs predominantly through the lower slopes of the Greensand Ridge and west of Guildford to Ash, the line is north of the Hog's Back and therefore in a geological sense actually above (ie on younger rock than) the escarpment. I'm probably being overly picky here, but my main issue is the clash(?) between a reasonably technical word like escarpment and below being used in its everyday sense. I can however see that it's worth mentioning that the line doesn't run on the top of the downs. Would you be happy if I I substituted the sentence in question for something like:
"Despite its name the line does not run along the top of the North Downs, but loosely shadows the main chalk ridge between Ash and Redhill at a lower level. Between Gomshall and Reigate the line lies at the foot of the main escarpment in the Vale of Holmesdale, but further west between Ash and Guildford the line runs to the north of the Hogs Back and tunnels under both the Downs and Greensand Ridge immediately to the south of Guildford."
Thanks again for your edit and I hope you don't think I'm being too pedantic! Mertbiol (talk) 11:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree with most of the above, however:
(a) I think the reference to the Greensand Ridge can be deleted as the railway line runs entirely to the north of the Greensand Ridge.
(b) it is true that there is a short tunnel immediately to the south of Guildford station, but it is more important that the part of the railway which was built by/shared with the Direct Portsmouth (or LSWR) takes advantage of the gap in the North Downs carved by the river Wey.
(c) Hog's Back has an apostrophe.
I shall alter the page accordingly. ---Ehrenkater (talk) 11:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thanks. To be very pedantic, there are actually two tunnels to the south of Guildford. The northern one is longest and is unimaginatively titled "Guildford Chalk Tunnel". The southern one is considerably shorter and is properly called the "St Catherine's Hill Tunnel" but sometimes called the "Guildford Sand Tunnel". (The sand here refers to the Upper Greensand.) If you look at a map, you'll see that between Shalford and Chilworth the line is actually south of St Martha's hill, which is part of the Greensand Ridge. Apologies about missing the apostrophe in Hog's Back (although I've seen it spelt without a number of times in 'official' documents, but I agree that your version is correct). Mertbiol (talk) 14:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)



I see that you have made some substational changes to the Groß-Umstadt article. These changes are great, but I see that there are no references associated with these. Can you please add some references with this too? Tommycw1 (talk) 11:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

References copied from German article, as requested --Ehrenkater (talk) 13:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Marek Sobieski[edit]

Hello. I'm asking about this edition [2]. If I put "graduated" instead of "finished", it would be OK? Kmicic (talk) 14:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

How about "graduated from"? ----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Marek Sobieski was a graduate (alumnus) of Nowodworski College and Kraków Academy, so I think that "graduated from" sounds better then "finished". Thank you. Kmicic (talk) 14:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)


I hope you understand why your edit got swept up in a revert of a series of vandal edits. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:15, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Ely, Cambridgeshire[edit]

Thank you for your edits to Ely, Cambridgeshire. Much appreciated. I have however partially reverted two of your edits both of which changed the existing spelling of medieval to mediaeval. My reasoning is that the OED (2011) confirms that the modern spelling (Brit. & US) is medieval. For example C S LEWIS 1964 "Yet all the while she [sc. Nature] is, for the medievals, only a personification". Yes. I am aware that there is a Pamela Blakeman quotation within the article with the old, now rare, spelling --Senra (Talk) 18:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits: 1 2 are not minor edits as you have classified them. Please revise your understanding of minor edit, especially for articles currently under review and ensure you are abiding by those guidelines in future. This will considerably assist other editors such as myself --Senra (Talk) 19:05, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Please revert all of your edits in this diff as none of them are consistent with the sources. I do value your contributions and some of them have been brilliant, but changing the meaning of prose in this manner is not useful when an article is under review. As you have made further excellent edits after this one, I shall be forced to revert all of your good edits if you do not self revert those in here. Thank you --Senra (Talk) 19:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I've reviewed the edit you refer to, and most or all of the changes in it are merely changes in phraseology for the sake of clarity and do not alter the meaning - and thus cannot give rise to inconsistencies with the sources. If there is any particular item that you feel strongly about, please feel free to revert it, as you did for the spelling of "mediaeval". Ehrenkater (talk) 19:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC) (edit conflict)

Please discuss those edits there. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  19:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Ehrenkater - I hope you understand; I've only 'undone' and moved this chat for the sake of peaceful accord; [[WP:TIND|no deadline here, so we can happily discuss it, now, at our leisure, on the article page. Hope that's all OK with you :-) Best,  Chzz  ►  19:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you so much for helping to raise Ely, Cambridgeshire to GA status -- Senra (Talk) 01:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


Hey, checked over your edits in placing tags there. About solubility. The book I sourced mentions a solubility of 1×1033. (Good catch, though, didn't even get your original point). In other cases, I don't get your point. To make it easier, please further use {{clarifyme|reason=your reason|date=February 2012}}, which will look just like [clarification needed] (although the date may be completed by a bot). I'm waiting for your points (we're all up for a normal civil discussion, right?) Thanks--R8R Gtrs (talk) 09:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for making some corrections to the Latin and translations at Palais Saint-Georges. In particular, well done on this little improvement! I had to giggle when I realised the unintentional double entendre. Julia\talk 10:09, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

The key to success came to be known as the Zürich model ...[edit]

Hi. You added Template:Clarifyme to the following text in Zurich trams:

The key to success came to be known as the Zürich model ...

In my edits to this article, I've several times pondered what to do about this text. I've read the article Zürich model, but it really doesn't explain what the Zürich model is, or indeed what the key to Zurich's success was. Unfortunately the text is quite old, and a search of the history shows it is by an editor who hasn't edited for four years (although I suspect from the username that he is the owner of a rather good website on Zurich trams, and something of an expert on the subject).

I've rewritten the text to remove the key to success bit, but retained the link to Zürich model. If only I could work out how to improve that.

I hope that resolves your issue. Oh and by the way, thanks for spotting and fixing some of the grammatical errors I introduced in my recent rewrites. Too much haste, etc. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 17:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


Are you sure about your changes to Windermere? You changed it from "The lake has a very high percentage of its drainage area under cultivation (29.4%), and a relatively low percentage of lake bed above 9 metres (30 ft) in depth which is rocky (28%)." to "A high percentage (29.4%) of the lake's drainage area under cultivation. The lake bed is rocky and only 28% of it is more than 9 metres (30 ft) deep." I'm not convinced that only 28% is deeper than 9m, and I think that what it may have been trying to say was that of that part of the lake bed which is deeper than 9m, only 28% is rocky. The statement was unsourced, but the depth can be checked on an OS map and it looks as if a fairly large proportion is deeper than the 10m contour. Terminology such as the old wording of "above n metres in depth" is something which I try to avoid as it can be interpreted ambiguously; I prefer to use "deeeper than", as you have done. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

The Arctic[edit]

Hi Ehrenkater, thanks for the info re: Iceland and its being included in the arctic. I have just recently been working on the article, Arctic policy of Canada, and am pleased you have added some insight. Perhaps you can help further. Iceland is part of the Arctic Council I think. How does the Arctic Council define the "arctic"? I am also intrigued with the populations of the Scandinavian countries. Do these populations include subarctic populations? How about Canada? Is the 120,000 inclusive of subarctic populations? Thanks again for your input on the article. DonaldRichardSands (talk) 16:18, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

List of languages in the Eurovision Song Contest[edit]

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Isabeau of Bavaria[edit]

Thanks for the copyedits there. I'm in the building stages and it's still very rough, so it was nice to see your edits. Truthkeeper (talk) 00:19, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Endangered languages[edit]

Hi, thanks for your attention to the article on endangered languages. However, do you think you could wait a little with working on the article. I've lost several edits already to edit conflicts. I'll be done shortly. Thanks.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:19, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

No worries, I lost the edits because I was stupidly editing in several windows at the time and therefore didn't notice your intermediate edits. I'll take a break in a little while and come back to the article tomorrow. Thanks for responding. best regards.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

List of Welsh people[edit]

Good to see you making some edits to List of Welsh people - plenty more work to be done there, thats for sure. One of those changes was to entries' order; from the English alphabet to the Welsh alphabet. The purpose of arranging lists in alphabetical order is that entries may be found by the reader. The vast majority of users (almost everyone, I would guess) would expect to find items on the English Wikipedia to be ordered in the English alphabet. Consequently, ordering entries using another language's alphabet would be likely to cause frustration and/or confusion. The Organisation section in WP:LEAD allows for different ordering criteria to be used, but it needs to be agreed (please use the talk page to gain consensus first) and it needs to be explicit to a casual user i.e. noted in the introduction. Please revert edits made in the alphabetical ordering system and please don't make any further such edits until consensus has been reached for those changes on the talkpage. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 07:27, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the copyedits to Language - they really were an improvement. I am going to take a break now, so if you like I'd be very happy if you go over other parts of the article as well. Best.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

One minor comment: My recent expansion is part of a larger effort to improve the article and make it conform to MOS standards so that it can progress towards GA or FA status. For this reason it will make my avoid stand alone sentences but rather write in full paragraphs, and finally include references to reliable sources for all claims. Thanks again! ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Voivode of Transylvania[edit]

Thank you! Borsoka (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Metrication in the United Kingdom[edit]

Hi Ehrenkater,

I have added a picture to the article to answer your questions regarding the "sale of loose goods or goods from bulk". Woudl you be happy if I removed your example about the cheese in the lede paragraph. Maybe we could change the wording of the picture caption. Martinvl (talk) 17:32, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg Thank you for helping to combat deletionism! Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:43, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you[edit]

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For your editorial work on Feudalism. Sometimes removing a few words makes a huge improvement in readability and clarity. Thank you for your effors. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ · cont) Join WER 20:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Astronomical Unit[edit]

Why removing the specification that the AU is a precise metric distance? It's essentially unique in astronomical measures in being a specific metric distance rather than an indirect approximation, and it's worth (in my ever so humble opinion) highlighting. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 22:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Oops. Never mind, just realized what happened - two uses of the same word in the same sentence. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 22:53, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Ehrenkater, please could you improve the content of Palmes family article? (Hancock blogger (talk) 22:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)).

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Thanks for your edits on Blackburnshire. Now I can spend more time on the facts side which was what I wanted to work on. Andrew Lancaster (talk) 18:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

New message from Gareth Griffith-Jones[edit]

Cynwyl Elfed last month; A40 road (London) this month.

Good evening Mr Ehrenkater,

We meet again. Cynwyl Elfed in September and now the A40 in London.

Your first posting today (covering the West End) is on a section that I "inherited" and had intended working on later. Your revisions are most welcome.

My maternal grandfather was born and raised in Cynwyl Elfed.


-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 19:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

help please![edit]

Ehrenkater, please could you improve the content of Palmes family article? (Hancock blogger (talk) 22:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC))

Have tidied this up a bit as requested.- Ehrenkater (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


Hello Ehrenkater. Thanks for your help with this article and your rapid reactions to my latest edits. I am trying to put some order into the older Bornholm articles in my coverage of the island. In particular, still quite a bit to do on Rønne and especially Nexø. You are welcome to help! -- Ipigott (talk) 16:56, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

I was a bit baffled by your removal of "idyllic" from the Bornholm box caption and your explanation "you can't say idyllic". I don't really mind about your removing the word but I would like to know why you think it was out of place. --Ipigott (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

See - Ehrenkater (talk) 16:00, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Now I understand your reasoning but I don't really think it was a peacock word in this context. Simply using "Bornholm's coastline" would have been misleading as a caption as it was intended to present an idea of the picturesque nature of some of the smaller settlements on the west and north coasts. "Idyllic" (Danish idyllisk) is a term frequently used in the literature to convey this impression. Anyway, I see you did not remove "picturesque", so let's leave it at that. I had replaced "a typical village..." as the photo did not represent a village and in any case a photo of Allinge, Gudhjem or Svaneke would have been more representative of "a typical village". --Ipigott (talk) 10:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for working on the Velká pardubická article, much appreciated. Jonclay (talk) 10:00, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


You were quite right, and what's more the editor has introduced factual inaccuracy.J3Mrs (talk) 12:43, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Faresaver buses[edit]

Hi, you have missed the point with rcspinter whatever his name is. We are not squabbling, he is writing information which is incorrect and will not accept correction. He is in Liverpool or wherever and has no connection with Faresaver Buses and will not accept that he is wrong. This is why no-one will take Wikipedia seriously, because it is so inaccurate. relying on out of date information gleaned from the web, when those that know the truth are ignored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Health & Morals of Apprentices Act 1802[edit]

Thanks very much for your edits on this article. I really appreciate any help! I have reverted 2 changes as I feel it changes the meaning that was implied in Percival's report. Everything else sounds a lot better. Thank you =) Staceydolxx (talk) 14:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Edit summary[edit]

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please make sure to include an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! Some of your earlier edits to Rail transport in Iceland today appear to be nothing more than alterations to the style of English used, and as such verge on violation of WP:ENGVAR. I have not reverted, although personally I believe the style of English was better before your subjective edits. Your intentions would be clearer if you left an edit summary. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 15:35, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for fixing the subscripts.

I will explain the coordination a little more (also am getting a diagram done).

The red link to EuF3 is intentional. That's what I want linked (and eventually an article written). Also, the MOS forbids blue next to blue WLs.TCO (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

1st Czechoslovak Partisan Brigade of Jan Žižka: Relevance of Jan Žižka in lead section[edit]


thank you for your interest and input into the 1st partisan brigade article! You have claimed that having Jan Žižka in the lead section is not relevant. I don't agree for the following reasons:

  • there were two other partisan units operating under his name in the WW2
  • the brigade in Yugoslavia is probably more internationally recognized
  • it is a simple single sentence which explains why the name was used, and why actually three different partisan units were using it

I took the sentence about being one of 6 from Jan Žižka article. It is a common claim in Czech sources, however when it comes to this I would also like to have a source from abroad.

Also, for your consideration: Badass of the Week: Jan Zizka ;)

Have a nice weekend! Regards! Cimmerian praetor (talk) 14:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I did not say that having Žižka in the article is not relevant, I said that the dubious claim about him being one of only six successful generals in the history of the world was likely to be false and was in any case not directly important enough to feature in the lead section of an article about a resistance unit named after him. ----Ehrenkater (talk) 16:46, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Well I agree with that. On the other point - being successful and being never defeated are different categories. Cimmerian praetor (talk) 17:12, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Repairing the Latitude/Longitude Pages[edit]

Please note that I am NOT vandalizing the "Cities by Latitude" page. Accordingly I would appreciate if you do not undo my edits. If you think a second of latitude/longitude is too precise, please round to the nearest minute. I am only posting the coordinate values as presented on the pages for the respective cities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

That would take quite a long time, and would produce a result that was almost exactly the same as what was already there --Ehrenkater (talk) 18:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


Hi there. I didn't realize you were also editing Tjörnin. I'll move on to something else now in case you want to give it more attention. Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Appreciate your help. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the useful edits.--Nvvchar. 02:13, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Tjörnin[edit]

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Structure and organisation of Interregnum articles[edit]

As you were active editing Interregnum (British Isles) after a large addition to the article was made and before it was reverted, this is a heads-up for a possible reorganisation of the Commonwealth and Interregnum articles, please see Talk:Commonwealth of England#Structure and organisation of Interregnum articles -- PBS (talk) 10:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Ways to improve Walla Brook[edit]

Hi, I'm Sulfurboy. Ehrenkater, thanks for creating Walla Brook!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. 4

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:22, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Accidental gap[edit]

Hello, Ehrenkater. You recently edited Accidental gap and left the edit summary, "needs more explanation, why not sausage ---> sausagal?" As the article states, "In English a noun may be formed by adding the suffix -al to a verb." The suffix does not attach to nouns such as "sausage". The internal links explain the terms noun, verb, and suffix; is this not sufficient to understand the process?

I have removed your additions to the article, since they did not cite any reliable sources. Whenever adding significant information to an article, it is best to cite published sources to verify the information. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 04:36, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Your request for clarification[edit]

Hello, Ehrenkater. Last month you added a {{clarify}} tag to the page Accidental gap, and suggested on Talk:Accidental gap that the article 'implies that these "gaps" are a few unfilled places in a field that is mostly filled'. The page was edited shortly thereafter, but no one else has commented on the talk page. If you have time, would you mind either commenting at the talk page about remaining problems, or else removing the maintenance tag? Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Bottesford Preceptory[edit]

The mention of Bottesford to the west of Lincoln Cliff might be a little confusing to some. South of Lincoln the Cliff is a discernably narrow sharp escarpment; north, it fans out – as a named geographical area – and appears to include Bottesford see: [4]. I know that the steep escarpment exists beyond Kirton. It might be better to say something like - It was on low-lying land about 3 miles (5 km) to the west of the escarpment of the Lincoln Cliff limestone upland. This might forestall nit-picking edits by the initiated :) I've taken the distance from the geo-coords to Ermine Street which runs on the ridge. Acabashi (talk) 16:03, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. ----Ehrenkater (talk) 16:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Scilly Isles, Surrey[edit]

Do you agree with me that we should delete this article as non-notable? - Adam37 Talk 16:15, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, I think I'll abstain on that one. It is an official place name and it is maybe very nearly as notable as some of the small villages that have their own article. This site describes it as "famous", and it is clearly a useful landmark.----Ehrenkater (talk) 16:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC) Compare also e.g. Magic Roundabout (Swindon)----Ehrenkater (talk) 16:32, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

dihydrogen monoxide[edit]

The whole point of the article is that "well known facts" are not in fact as "well known" as one would think. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, of course the hoaxes play on people's ignorance. Arguably this implies that it is even more important than usual that our article is 100% accurate scientifically, so as not to introduce any more fallacies. ----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:05, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

London Heathrow Airport[edit]

Many thanks for reverting the inaccurate edit on London Heathrow Airport. Your reversion was the fourth time that the unregistered IP editor has made the same edit. I have warned them twice within the last two days to stop and if they persist they could be banned from editing. I have limited time in the next few days and would be grateful if you could keep an eye on the article? Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 22:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

You're good![edit]

Wow, I saw your copyedits to Promotion (chess). Hope to see you touch more chess-related articles in future (so many have such terrible prose!). Kind regards, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 16:32, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

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Indonesian names[edit]

I see you've been editing Indonesian names and you seem to know the subject matter. I just wondered if you had seen the comment I just posted on the talk page of the article regarding the section on "Arabic names". CorinneSD (talk) 22:41, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

I am definitely not an expert on the subject matter; I was mainly trying to make the English easier to understand. I have now looked at your comment, and then altered the word order of the sentence you referred to which lists the Islamic ethnic groups; this should hopefully address your question.----Ehrenkater (talk) 22:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

The entire paragraph now makes sense and is clear. Good edits! CorinneSD (talk) 02:02, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for your edits on article Bosnian language. --Lighthouse01 (talk) 15:17, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

I'd also like to thank you, albeit copyediting in the midst of a revert war involving a bunch of socks was... unfortunate. I'll try to reconcile your edits after the dust settles. No such user (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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I see you were making edits on Bosnian language. Looks like you are better at English than me, so I would ask you to check spelling/grammar on that article. I would appreciate your help. --Lumi (talk) 10:35, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Dartford Crossing[edit]

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Editing Footpath[edit]

It looks like we were involved in some kind of editing conflict on this page. I was trying to simplify the wording and remove pointless links. Reference to the American disability legislation, for example, seemed unnecessary as the article is about paths, and especially because it isn't just about US footpaths. Rwood128 (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2014 (UTC)


I don't really get the thing about Stallingborough village is the only settlement of any note in the parish, apart from industrial buildings - surely "industrial buildings" aren't a settlement - in the same way a chemical plant isn't a settlement - because nobody actually lives there - so it shouldn't be mentioned in section?

I mean they are not actually "settled there" - in any real sense - simply - nobody regards it as home.

?Prof.Haddock (talk) 14:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


I debated taking that whole section out as its weasel words. Awkward as I suspect the implication might be right but the evidence is against this - 300yrs of no remotely successful claimantsGarlicplanting (talk) 09:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Position angle[edit]

Okay a couple of things first off regarding the article Position angle - Firstly, I made it clear in my first revert that the angle of the objects does not indicate distance to any degree. However you mention you understand the issues. However, your post says that stars are often separated by a matter of arcseconds, not degrees. Perhaps you are confusing Angular distance with Position angle. Angular distance is the apparent separation of two stars in a binary system, i.e. the distance that they appear from one another in the sky. The degrees measured here are measured with the axis point from the center of the Earth, or more simply the Celestial coordinate system. Most faint stars or even ones or respectable magnitude are separated by a matter of arcseconds or arcminutes for some of brighter magnitude. However Position Angle is different- it measures the angle at which stars are to one another, indicating where the star is in relation to the central one. As defined in the article, position angle is measured counterclockwise from due north. The two are very different. For instance, a system of 2 stars, with one being perhaps magnitude 7.39 and another 8.72, and the two stars are separated by about 4.2 arcseconds, with the fainter being directly south of the brighter one, it would be said that their Angular distance is 4.2 arcseconds, yet their position angle is 180 degrees as it is measured counterclockwise from due North, and therefore East is 90°, South is 180°, West is 270°, and directly North is 360/0°. In this case, the angle is not measured with the axis extending from Earth, but rather from the primary star. As such, two binary stars with a Position angle (not Angular separation) of 1, 2, or even 5 arcseconds would each be nearly exactly north/south, nearly exactly north/south, and nearly exactly north/south accordingly. It appears what you are believing to be Position Angle is Angular distance, which again I must impress upon you marks the distance between an angle of 180° being on completely opposite parts of the sky, and being due south/north from one another. As such, a binary star with a position angle of 90° and a binary star with a position angle of 13° would be at exactly the same apparent distance to one another if their angular distance is the same for both. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 19:35, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Exoplanetaryscience

I understand the difference between the two concepts you have explained. I also agree that the second of these (which I interpret as meaning the angle between a line joining the images of the two stars and some other line, presumably a line drawn perpendicular to the ecliptic) could be anywhere between zero and 360 degrees (measured counterclockwise). I would add that I do not claim any expertise on the terminology. However

(a) That definition of "position angle" conflicts with the article which I added as a reference, which clearly states (at the top of page 2) that the "position angle" is measured in arc seconds. (b) The definition currently in the article is (to put it mildly) less than clear, so needs to be amended whatever the correct definition is.

So would it be possible for you to suggest a mathematically rigorous (and hence clear) definition of "position angle", preferably with a reference: the definition you have given above is not mathematically rigorous.----Ehrenkater (talk) 11:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

I will attempt a more detailed, mathematically rigorous explanation later, but will attempt to sum the fairly wordy 'meat' of my post into a basic idea - Position angle is the orientation of the different stars, measured as an angle due north. In the following diagrams, assume that . and . are a visual binary - an apparent binary star where the two stars are not actually related at all, but in a similar part of the sky. * is the brighter of the two, and . in turn is the fainter.
  • North
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  • |--------------- West
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  • South

  • N
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  • .
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  • .------------------W
  • The dimmer star is measured due exactly north from the brighter star. The position angle is 0 degrees.
  • N
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  • | .
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  • .--------------W
  • The dimmer star is North and slightly to the right. The Position Angle is about 15 degrees.
  • N
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  • | .
  • |
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  • .----------------W
  • The dimmer star is exactly Northwest to the brighter. The position angle is about 45 degrees.
  • N
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
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  • .------------.--W
  • Although not obvious in this due to typing limitations, the dimmer is exactly west of the main. The Position angle is 90°
  • N
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • .-----------------W
  • |
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  • .
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  • S
  • The fainter is directly south of the brighter, and as such is 180°.
  • N
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  • E-----.------.----------------W
  • |
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  • S
  • Now the position angle is 270°.
  • N
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  • .
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  • .-----------------W

And finally the dimmer is at 360°, or exactly north.

Position angle is the angle of the stars from one another. Draw a line pointing from the brighter of the pair, facing due north, and then draw another line pointing from the brighter star to the dimmer one. Get out a protractor and measure the angle that the two create, and that's the position angle, as illustrated above. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Rolene at ITN[edit]

Hi, I have nominated Rolenes Miss World win for a mention at ITN. Take a look.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:17, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for your edits and corrections, i will answer/improve references etc later after your improvements etc -- BOD -- 16:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

i am very grateful for your edits and hope you are able to do more which def help improve the article. I seem to have got your clarification requests temporarily confused for citation requests. I will be more able to make corrections after xmas (currently i am on to me a very frustrating and limiting ipad). I was wondering whether to put the 'associations with the town on a seperate page' but i have never started a new page.
Sorry about my confusions regards spaces after all numbers and the writing dates out in full - both made recently due my misunderstanding the auto peer review suggestions. Apologies too regards my bad English. -- BOD -- 18:14, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

The things you mention are really minor and there's no need to apologise :)

I think the main issue with the article at the moment is that it is rather on the long side for a town of this size, and so if you could move some of the material to (a) separate page(s), that would be great.

Hope you get a better computer for Christmas :) ----Ehrenkater (talk) 19:16, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

thanks ;) i will try to resist editing until then. I have not started a new page, but will look into it. Apart from a 'list of people associated with town' page, i guess I or someone could put the 'buildings and sites of interest on another page. I did get carried away on the demography section, would you suggest reducing it. I am resistant to removing the history of the town on a separate page, the conquest, castle and 13th century heyday (and 17th events) etc are to me essential parts of the town's make up. -- BOD -- 19:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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For much appreciated help on the Berkhamsted article Bodney (talk) 01:51, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the further edits you did today, hope I satisfied the clarifications requestedBodney (talk) 01:56, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for the copyediting on English language[edit]

Hi, Ehrenkater,

I appreciate your care and attention to detail as you have been revising my recent changes to the Geographical distribution section of the English language article. I see you've been reviewing other sections of the article too. It looks like the article will be submitted for good article review soon, so I'm grateful for the second pair of eyes looking at each sentence and paragraph. Keep up the good work. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 17:35, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hainault tube station - Services and connections[edit]

Hey there, I've noticed that you have added a reference to it, congrats![1] However, you need to uncover the bare references added since it made the page ugly and also shrunk it which make readers hard to hover around the article.[2] This should be done to future edits as well. Oh and also try to add notable subjects and not like these information which is unneccessary since it deviates from the topic.[3] Thanks. Vincent60030 (talk) 07:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

[1] No need to be sarcastic.

[2] Go ahead and do it.

[3] The catchment area of the station is definitely on topic.----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not being sarcastic, okay?! I am just trying to give some encouragement. Is there a problem with me being nice? Also, you are the one who added all these contents and I don't have time to resolve it right now. I'm schooling and I have another article to attend to since I have nominated the article it has been Goh through the review process. Vincent60030 (talk) 15:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I expect an editor of seven years probably doesn't feel in the need of so-called "encouragement" from one fifteen months Face-wink.svg Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 14:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
LOL ----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


Thank you for your comment on my translations, but you should be aware of variations in spelling which used to be far more common. I have taken liberties which are small compared with, for example, the spelling of "choir" in Durham Cathedral as "quire"!!! If you look at sources even in the nineteenth century you will find considerable variations in the spellings of place names, this has continued much later into the 20th century with Welsh placenames (e.g. Penmachno/Pennant Machno/Pen Machno and Llansantffraid/Llansaintffraid/Llansaintffraed). Emerald (talk) 14:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Of course there are spelling variations, but you have not produced any evidence to support your suggested translations, which are prima facie implausible.----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:29, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

One letter difference is "prima facie implausible"? You are being ridiculous now and you are annoying me! Well I have at least one reference for the Cynllaith translation and just need to find it - then you need to apologise. Emerald (talk) 14:50, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

If and when I see the relevant page of the book you have cited, and it confirms what you say, I shall be happy to apologise.----Ehrenkater (talk) 18:23, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Good news, the relevant page (bottom of 105) can be seen via Google books - Link. Emerald (talk) 08:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Article Idiomelon[edit]

Dear Ehrenkater

Thanks for your very helpful suggestions and corrections. You are a very precise reader and corrector and you asked very good questions which helped me during the revision. I could shorten the text (turning like a carrousel around the same subject), but I prolonged it again with some additional explanations and notes.

I am sorry that your corrections and tags interfered with my last revisions of the text. I hope that I did not messed them up. I also changed now the leading section (all the languages should be transcribed here, but the Slavonic one I found in the last section). Also the sentence "Unlike..." was not really helpful, so I rewrote it.

Now my revision is finished. You can trust me that I do know what I am writing about, but it would be enough to know, if the text has now become comprehensible for a very understanding reader like you. Of course, you are always welcome to improve my English, if you still find time for it.

In any case, if you do not find time for a second look, many thanks for the splendid work you have done so far. Platonykiss (talk) 09:39, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


Please read the wp:mos regarding the use of & nbsp ; . It was correctly used as it states. However, thanks for the other ce, it really helped! Thanks, TheMagikCow (talk) 15:30, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I didn't actually change the method of showing spaces in this article. ----Ehrenkater (talk) 15:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Florent Du Bois de Villerabel[edit]

Hello. I see you edited Florent Du Bois de Villerabel. I was wondering if you would consider helping me find some good references to in-line them. The content is very controversial and it may be deleted. I have contacted the page creator and thought you might want to help, too. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)