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Faroe Islands Question[edit]

I have been researching the Faroe Islands, just cause I think the country is really really neat and quite beautiful. Since you are from the Faroe Islands, I am hoping you could answer a question for me. While checking out a couple sites on the country, one directed me to American website wunderground.com for weather information and I saw that the daylight there was 24 hours long. This struck me as odd since it is south of the Arctic Circle. My question is does the Faroe Islands experience 24 hour daylight in the summer and 24 hour darkness in the winter? Thanks...NeutralhomerTalk • 22:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Answer: Hello. In midsummer we have daylight for many hours, but we don't have midnight sun like they have in Iceland and Northern Norway. The sun goes down at around 22 or 23 and rises again a couple of hours later, at around 2 or 3 in the morning. It does not get dark at all, but it is not daylight either. In December it is the opposite, we almost don't see the sun at all, but it is not completely dark. The sun rises around 10 and the sunset is around 15. There are some really great sunrises in late november and in December, the sky can get all pink or orange, beautiful. On cloudy days in December and January it doesn't get really light at all. In villages which have a mountain to the south the sun is so low on the sky, it doesn't rise above the mountain. I live in Vágur in Suðuroy, the people who live down by the sea don't see the sun from late November to late January. I live a bit up on a mountain, and we see the sun a bit longer for a few hours in the morning, but at 11 or noon the sun goes behind a mountain on the southern side of the fjord. EileenSanda (talk) 22:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that is really cool. I would love to see some of those sunrises in the November/December days, I bet the sunsets are equally pretty. Thanks for answering my question, I have a better understanding of the sunrises and sets in the Faroe Islands now. :) Take Care...NeutralhomerTalk • 23:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
You could have a look at this photo which I have uploaded on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/eileensanda/4114076939/ I took this photo on 18 November 2009 just before sunrise, or this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/eileensanda/4091107530/in/set-72157622646676431/ from 9 November 2009. Or this photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/eileensanda/4228117205/in/set-72157622646676431/ which is a sunrise seen in Tórshavn, the sun rises in the south at this time, I took this photo on 26 December 2009. EileenSanda (talk) 23:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Wow, those are amazing shots. I definitely like the first how the light bounces off the clouds with the pinks and oranges and even a little purple. That is great. :) I will definitely give a look at your other pictures too. I can't comment (don't have a Flickr account) but I am looking. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 23:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Hi Eileen. I noticed the good work you've been doing on the Faroese football articles. I just wanted to let you know about a recent change i've made on the Rógvi Jacobsen article, about the "won caps" and "played Caps". The reason someone had wrote 'won caps' is, because years ago in the UK when a player played for his country he would recieve a cap (a hat) for each match he played in. This has been phased out in more modern times (otherwise that would be alot of caps), but to this day people still call it caps instead of appearances. Anyway i decided to change it to "He has 52 caps for..." and left out either word "won" or "played". Bobbymozza (talk) 19:32, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bobbymossa. Ok, I didn't know that, thanks for telling me :) EileenSanda (talk) 19:45, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Player Stats (football)[edit]

I was wondering if you are aware that in the info boxes, they count league matches only. I noticed on the the Géza Turi article the stats didn't seem to add up and on the Christian Mouritsen article they were very diferent from my original research. I know it's strange being league matches only, but that's how they do it. There was discussion about it before on the wikiproject but they thought it would be too much work changing every article so they're all consistant. Cup appearances are usually just mentioned in Player statistics charts (example here) and sometimes in the text. Faroesoccer.com can be a pain because they don't seperate league from cup appearaances on the player profiles. But if you click on the teams on the Vodafonedeildin page, they have stats for league appearances, B36 Bobbymozza (talk) 16:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Answer: Hi Bobbymozza, no, I wasn't aware of that, so it is very good that you tell me. In the beginning I did only count the league matches, but later I thougt that it takes so much time to separate the league matches from the other matches, that I just counted all of the matces, I thougt that it probably didn't matter. But now I know, thanks for telling me. Yes, it is a pain ... that FaroeSoccer doesn't separate the league matches from the cup matches, but except for that I am very happy for the statistics on FaroeSoccer. I would wish that they had statistics about the national matches for Faroe Islands and the youth national matches (U21, U19, U17 and U15), there is almost nothing to find on Football.fo about the youth national teams. Well, anyway, you do a great job on Wikipedia regarding the Faroese football! EileenSanda (talk) 18:30, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Finnur Justinussen[edit]

I was away from Wikipedia when this article was deleted, so I didn't offer up my vote to keep it. I think it was deleted with out a fair discussion. Clearly he is a professional soccer player and his article should not have been removed. If you want to propose a deletion review for this article, I will support it. --Yankees76 Talk 14:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello Yankees76. I did what I could, and the page still got deleted. I don't know how to propose a deletion review, and I don't wish to use more time on this matter right now. But thanks for your support. EileenSanda (talk) 17:19, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Heini Vatnsdal[edit]

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Survey[edit]

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A barnstar for you[edit]

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Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.7.149 (talk) 21:52, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jón Pauli Olsen[edit]

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Just a question - have he been capped for Faroe Island as a player? Mentoz86 (talk) 09:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
No, not as far as I can see here: A list of all the Faroese football players who have played for the Faroe Islands national team on Football.fo EileenSanda (talk) 09:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Jón Pauli Olsen for deletion[edit]

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MonmouthpediA Barnstar[edit]

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Thank you so much for all the work you have put into Monmouth related articles, really appreciate it, many thanks Mrjohncummings (talk) 16:14, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
You are welcome :) Thanks a lot for the barnstar! Kind regards EileenSanda (talk) 00:34, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Whale meat[edit]

We could really use some more good quality close-up images of whale meat. All we have are these. Many thanks for any help you can provide. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, well, I don't have any. If I get to take some I can of course contribute with them here. EileenSanda (talk) 08:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. I know it has so many different appearances, improvement in our visual coverage would be great. I, personally, have always wanted to see it up close. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mamuka Toronjadze[edit]

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Is the Umaglesi Liga of Georgia not a fully pro league? EileenSanda (talk) 17:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Mamuka Toronjadze for deletion[edit]

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Ok, no I won't remove it. EileenSanda (talk) 21:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at User_talk:Joe_Decker#Jón Pauli Olsen's talk page. --j⚛e deckertalk 00:53, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Sigri Mitra Gaïni[edit]

Hello, EileenSanda,

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  • Thanks for letting me know. I have tried to improve the article and to establish some kind of notability. I don't know if it is enough. A person who receives the Faroese Literature Prize is seen as notable in the Faroe Islands. She is a bit know also in other countries for her part in the film Bye Bye Bluebird and there are articles about her on the German, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and Faroese wikipeida also. I thought she was notable enough for the English Wikipedia also, if not I would not have created the article. But I didn't write much, it is difficult to find much about her writing other than what I have written. It is also difficult to find any documentation for the awards and nominations which the film Bye Bye Bluebird got now 12 years after, but one award and one nomination, I think. Kind regards EileenSanda (talk) 21:46, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome....[edit]

... to WikiProject Islands‎. Just let me know if you need any assistance. Ben MacDui 20:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC) PS You (nearly) share a name with the Scottish island of Eilean Sandaigh.

Haha, yes, I have heard about that island once before, someone told me on Flickr :) and that island is quite similar to one of our Faroese islands, which is called Lítla Dímun, if I remember correctly. Thanks for your greetings, yes I will let you know, if I have any questions :) EileenSanda (talk) 21:07, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
No, sorry, I was mistaken, Lítla Dímun was not similar to Sanda Island but to Ailsa Craig, it is mentioned here below one of my photos on http://www.flickr.com/photos/eileensanda/4862882822/

Ways to improve Jógvan Isaksen[edit]

Hi, I'm Cdtew. EileenSanda, thanks for creating Jógvan Isaksen!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. English-language sources would be helpful for verification. Otherwise, great article!

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Hi Cdtew. Thanks for your positive comment. I have added more references now, including some which are in English. Non of his books have been translated into English yet, maybe that is why it is so difficult to find any references on the internet written in English. But I did manage to find a few and added them. I removed the tags, as you suggest that I could. I hope that it was okay to do that. Kind regards and a Merry Christmas EileenSanda (talk) 20:45, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

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Plus, good food, good family and good times. :) Have a Great Day! :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 07:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Neutralhomer. Thank you so much for your nice Christmas greetings :) I also wish you and your family a Merry Christmas, best wishes from the Faroe Islands, Eileen. EileenSanda (talk) 13:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Ways to improve Danish Critics Prize for Literature[edit]

Hi, I'm Ana Bykova. EileenSanda, thanks for creating Danish Critics Prize for Literature!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Thank you for making a wiki page, it looks great. Please refer to the tags added to find out how you could improve it. Best wishes,

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I have translated the article from the Danish Wikipedia. If the translation is not good enough, someone else must do it better, I think that I have done it is good as I can. Danish is my second language, next after Faroese, which is my mother tongue, English is my third language (good, but not perfect). Best wishes EileenSanda (talk) 22:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
The titles of the awarded books are in Danish. The titles are not meant to be translated here, are they? EileenSanda (talk) 22:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Faroese Classical[edit]

Delighted to find someone from the Faroe Islands working on these articles. Just wanted to offer you a link to the review of the American contemporary music festival which featured Sunleif Rasmussen. I also had a chance to have a few conversations with Mr. Rasmussen. Wonderful man and wonderful composer. The link: http://newmusicbuff.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/other-minds-18-three-nights-on-the-leading-edge/ All the photos are creative commons attribution license and may be used for non-commercial purposes with citation of the photographer. I look forward to the expansion of the classical music section. Again, welcome. And feel free to contact me if I can be of assistance with new music articles.Canticle (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello Canticle, thanks for sharing the link! How interesting that you have been to a concert with Sunleif Rasmussen. Thanks for your offer, I will let you know, if or when I need any help :) Best regards EileenSanda (talk) 00:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Μετάφραση από ελληνικά[edit]

Γεια. Έχω μεταφράσει 2 άρθρα από τα ελληνικά. Θα ήθελα να τα διαβάσεις και να κάνεις μερικές διορθώσεις, αφού οι γνώσεις μου στα αγγλικά δεν είναι τέλειες. Τα άρθρα είναι Nea Salamis Famagusta και Nea Salamis Famagusta FC. Είναι ακριβείς μεταφράσεις των αντίστοιχων ελληνικών. Αν δεν μπορείς να βοηθήσεις, απολογούμαι για την ενόχληση. Xaris333 (talk) 21:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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Heini Vatnsdal[edit]

Article's restored, since the national team appearance checks out as notable. Wizardman 14:17, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I have updated it now. EileenSanda (talk) 16:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Páll Klettskarð[edit]

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Election results[edit]

Hello Eileen. I'm about to start creating articles for Faroese elections between 1906 and 1945. I have the vote figures, but do not have the number of seats won by each party. Do you know a source where I can find these? I've looked on Hagstova Føroya, but they only seem to have the vote numbers too. Thanks, Number 57 19:46, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Number57. No, I don't know where to find these informations. The Norwegian Wikipedia has written about it, and he (User:Efloan) has found it somewhere, but I don't know where. He uses hagstova.fo as rference, but like you say, it is not possible to find the number of seats for that period there, at least I can't find it. There are some books online, but I am not sure if the number of seats is mentioned, can you read Faroese? I will try to find something, for now I can show you this one in pdf-file, written in Faroese, 400 pages: logting.fo, Løgtingssøgan (History of the Løgting). Best regards EileenSanda (talk) 11:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
On the Løgting's website logting.fo, you can find "Løgtingstíðindi" at the bottom left side. Chose "Vel" (Chose), scroll down the years an push "Eldri" which means "Older", and now you will be able to chose between the years 1880 to 1997. Chose one of the years, i.e. the year 1944, which mentions the members of the Løgting on doc. 1 under "B. Einstøku tingmálini", here: 1944. EileenSanda (talk) 13:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! On the 1944 one, I assume the letters after the names are party abbreviations (ffl = People's Party, sb = Union Party, sj = Self-Government Party, jm = Social Democratic Party)? I'm afraid that I don't know Faroese, so I can't really read anything. As an example - in 1943 there is a list on page 9 of the section C. Vanliga tingsetan 1943 - this lists several people - were they all elected at the same time? Number 57 16:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes, you are right about the meaning of the letters. I think that all the listed persons were elected at the same time, the first list are men who were elected directly (Faroese: beinleiðis), the second list were extra members (eykatingevni), I don't know what that means, I mean, there were 25 members, and the first list consists only of 14 names, the last four were elected directly, but all these names are only 23, the text says something about waiting with the approval of the members from Vágar district, and one member, Poul Niclassen was in Denmark (this was during World War II, when Denmark was occupied by Germany and the Faroes by the British, so there were no ferries), and therefor he could not meet at the Løgting. On page 11 you can see the names of the two elected members from Vágar: Samuel Ellefsen (Ffl.) and Johs. Slettenæs. Tr. Samuelsen was approved in stead of Poul Niclasen. I think that the easiest thing you can do is to use the information on the Norwegian Wikipedia and use the documents on logting.fo as reference. EileenSanda (talk) 17:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, that's what I have done. Just one more question - the Business Party (Faroe Islands) appears to have been the forerunner of the People's Party (Faroe Islands) (at least according to the Norwegian article, which says the People's Party was formed by a merger of the Business Party and some people leaving the Self-Government Party). However, this is not what the People's Party article says - does it need to be corrected? Cheers, Number 57 21:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. I have corrected the leading section: "Founded in 1939 as a split from the Self-Government Party and by former members of the Business Party (Vinnuflokkurin)...", but further down - under the headline History, it says: "The party was founded in 1939 as Vinnuflokkurin." The reference is: Ackrén, Maria. "The Faroe Islands: Options for Independence - Island Studies Journal 1 (2): 223–238." but the pdf-file is not there any longer. Was it really founded as Vinnuflokkurin? It doesn't sound right, as the Vinnuflokkurin was founded in 1935, why found another party with the same name four years later? EileenSanda (talk) 12:17, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
I suspect the person writing the article it is referenced to was mistaken. Thanks for your help! Number 57 22:12, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes, perhaps that is the case. You are welcome :) I wish you a Happy New Year! EileenSanda (talk) 01:18, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikilinking[edit]

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It has been corrected now. EileenSanda (talk) 14:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Faroese nationalism[edit]

Hello, I recently created this page regarding the Faroese independence movement. Considering your active role within the Faroese WikiProject, your residency within the islands and your fluency in the language, I believe you could make some brilliant contributions to this article's immensely important topic. Whether it be a general clean up or a translation into Faroese or Danish, I look forward to any contributions you'll want to make. Thanks for your time! -1Matt20 (talk) 03:08, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I don't feel like I am the right person to write much about the Faroese nationalism, but I will try to write some, and have just now written some in the beginning of the article, it should probably not be there, but I couldn't see where to put it. Did you know about the article about the Christmas Meeting 1888? It is said to be the start of the national movement. It was not so much of an independence movement at first, they struggled to get the right to use the Faroese language in the school, in the chuch and elsewhere, it was forbidden, only Danish was to be used there. The first political parties were established in 1906, but before that the national movement worked outside the parliament by writing in Faroese, they published magazines and other papers in Faroese, the only Faroese newspaper back then was Dimmalætting and it was written only in Danish for several years. There is not much to find about all this in English. I will see what I can do. But I think there should be written something more about the cultural part too, don't you think? I don't quite understand the meaning of this sentce: "As the 19th century progressed, so did the Faroese language and the freedoms of residents of the islands; with these changes came the birth of the nationalist movement". What do you mean? EileenSanda (talk) 07:21, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Hey Eileen, your edits on the page were fantastic, and I immensely appreciate them. I moved them from the opening section to the one entitled "Under Danish rule" as they flowed better with the content already there. I agree with you when it comes to that sentence - it was a mistake. Not very objective, it's been removed in favor of your contributions with cover the idea of my flawed statement in a much better way. Thanks again! -1Matt20 (talk) 14:21, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
OK, great, thanks :) EileenSanda (talk) 22:44, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Hey again, I think our next step would be to translate the Faroese independence page onto the Faroese and Danish wikipedias. I understand you have proficiency in both languages, but I know it's a lot to ask. Would you be up for the task? -1Matt20 (talk) 17:45, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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Request for Faroese language expertise[edit]

Hi Eileen, I see you are native in the Faroese language and I was wondering if you could help me translate a document? I'm trying to understand what this says, and there aren't any online translators that I can find for the language.

For background, you can look at the discussion at Talk:Enlargement_of_the_eurozone/Archive_1#Template:Potential_Euro_adoption_future, which I've just discovered. There seems to be some misunderstanding in the english language source which says "The islands’ influential Independence Party has applied to the central bank of the European Union to replace the Danish krona, which it has used for more than a century, with the euro." However, based on a Danish speaker's understanding, it appears to be more of a law of the Løgting. Can you clarify what it discusses? A proposal to adopt the euro? A study on whether they should adopt the euro before mainland Denmark? Plans in case Denmark decides to adopt the euro?

Also, if you have any update on what became of these discussions that would be great. Any insight would be much appreciated! TDL (talk) 03:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

First of all, I will inform you that there is now a Faroese-English and English-Faroese dictionary on the internet awailable for all at sprotin.fo (also other languages to and from Faroese).
Well, that document is a a "Uppskot til samtyktar" which in Danish is called "Beslutningsforslag", in English: Proposal for Parliamentary Resolution ("Motion" a formal proposal put to a legislature). The proposal for the Løgting (the Faroese parliament) was made by four members of the Løgting back in 2009, two from Tjóðveldi (Høgni Hoydal and Tórbjørn Jacobsen) and two from Sjálvstýrisflokkurin (Kári á Rógvi and Kristina T. Larsen). The headline says:
Løgtingsmál nr. 11/2009: Uppskot til samtyktar um at taka upp samráðingar um treytir fyri evru sum føroyskt gjaldoyra
Which means
Case of the Løgting number 11/2009: Motion to the Løgting about starting negotiations about conditions for the euro as a Faroese currency
If you look at this document under paragraph 4, it says:
2. viðgerð av tingmáli nr. 11/2009: Uppskot til samtyktar um at taka upp samráðingar um treytir fyri evru sum føroyskt gjaldoyra
2. reading of the bill number 11/2009: Motion to the Løgting about starting negotiations about conditions for the euro as a Faroese currency
Broytingaruppskot frá meirilutanum í Uttanlandsnevndini samtykt 18-0-3
Amendment from the majority of the Foreign Affairs Committee was passed 18-0-3
Málið avgreitt
Case closed
The amendment from the majority of the Foreign Affairs Committee says:
”Løgtingið heitir á landsstýrið um at kanna og leggja frágreiðing fyri Løgtingið um fortreytirnar og neyðugu fyrireikingarnar, ið skulu til, fyri at Føroyar kunnu nýta evru sum gjaldoyra. Frágreiðingin eigur at greina allar fyrimunir og vansar við atliti til innlendis- og altjóða viðurskifti.”
"The Løgting requests the Governement (Landsstýri) to look into and to give a report to the Løgting about the requirements and necessary preperations, which must be done, in order for the Faroe Islands to use the Euro as currency. The report should clarify all advantages and disadvantages regarding domestic and foreign relations."

I hope this clarifies it? EileenSanda (talk) 08:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the source you mention, from Fishupdate.com, I don't understand what they mean when they write: The islands’ influential Independence Party - which party is that? Tjóðveldi is not one of the governement coalition parties, neither is Sjálvstýrisflokkurin and it is the smallest party of the Løgting. Do they mean Fólkaflokkurin? (Peoples Party). I don't know what this article means, I don't recall that a political party has applied for the Euro to replace the Danish Krone in the Faroe Islands. And it would not be enough for just one political party to apply, it should be the government who should apply. And one more thing, that article is written in September 2014, which is just at the time when the EU embargo against the Faroe Islands ended, I don't think that any Faroese political party would apply for implementation of the Euro to the Faroe Islands just then. There might have been a discussion about advantages of the Euro, I dont know. So, yes, I agree with you, that there must be some misunderstanding in the English language source. EileenSanda (talk) 09:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
If you look closely, the Fishupdate.com source is actually dated 12 August, 2009, it was just reposted by the site in 2014. I believe Tjóðveldi was part of a governing coalition at the time, so that is probably who they are referring to. But still, other discrepancies remain so I don't think it is a reliable source.
Thanks for your help! TDL (talk) 19:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Tjóðveldi (Republic) has not been part of a government coalition since 2008. EileenSanda (talk) 20:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm, OK then I don't know what they're talking about! TDL (talk) 20:27, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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Education in the Faroe Islands article[edit]

Καλημέρα Eileen. The Education in the Faroe Islands page was nominated as a GA. A user has just started its review. Anyway, that would be the first GA concerning exclusively the Faroe Islands and it might need your help to get a positive GA review. The reviewer may ask for content that is available only in Faroese and I don't know any Faroese. I'll notify you again when the reviewer leaves her comments abouth the article. Takk. 11:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Καλημέρα and thanks for letting me know. I will have a look at the article. --EileenSanda (talk) 12:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
A history section could be written (when the first school was established, by whom - I guess church, when the University was founded, any major Education reforms, establishment and development of maritime education). Another thing that I couldn't find any references to support it was the teaching of Danish in Faroese education (up to which class is it taught, up to which level); all I could find is that it should be taught extensivelly (in the Home Rule Act of the Faroe Islands - section 11).Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 19:49, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
If I find something about it I can write something about it. I know that a maritime school was established in the village Porkeri more than 100 years ago. I googled just now and found this page on Vinnuskúlin's website which tells the story of the maritime education in the Faroe Islands. The two skippers Jens Mohr and Jens í Dali established two maritime schools (skipper school) in Tórshavn in 1893. In 1896 Dánjal í Ungagarði established a skippers school in Porkeri and Hans Djurholm started a skippers school in Glyvrar in Eysturoy in 1903. The two brothers Jákup and Jógvan Joensen (they were called "Jákup and Jógvan við Stein") started their skipper's school in Tórshavn in 1904. In 1905 Jens Pauli í Dali took over his fathers school in Tórshavn. All these schools were private and only open in winther time from 1 November to late February. The first maritime school which was built to the purpose opened on 1 November 1905 by the two Danes Viggo Ryving-Jensen and Andrias Nielsen. In 1927 Danish authorities established a Maritime school in Tórshavn. --EileenSanda (talk) 23:04, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Eileen. The GA review for the article can be found here. If the article is to get a GA rating, the issues in the review should be corrected appropriately. A general advice would be not to add material that is not supported by a reliable source as this could be characterized as original research which is not acccepted on wikipedia, especially in an article that is GA rated. I dont' deny your knowledge on the subject, it's just the way wikipedia works. As far as I understand the descriptions of schools should be played down in volume, as they are deemed repetitive and maybe not notable by the reviewer. The lead should be expanded in a way that is summarizes the article's content. In general the comments are a little bit too abstract to me and I'll ask the reviewr to clarify things a bit. The article will most possibly be failed but we could ask for a review as soon as we correct the issues addressed by the reviewer. I hope, and believe, we' ll manage to get this article a GA rating soon enough. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 11:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Hansi. What do you mean by this "while Danish is the main language of instruction in upper secondary schools."? If you mean the book they use are in Danish that is correct, but if you mean that the teachers speak Danish that is not true, most of them are Faroese and speak Faroese to the students. My daughter is attending the Studentaskúli, the second grade of three grades (studentaskúli is the same school as the gymnasium is in Denmark), I asked her, in what language the books are which the teachers use for teaching, she said that most of them are in Danish language, but all her teachers except for one speaks Faroese in the lessons, one of them is Danish born and does not know the Faroese language, so he speaks in Danish to the students. Of course the books for the English lessons are in English, the books for lessons in Faroese lessons are in Faroese and in Danish lessons are in Danish. But the books in i.e. mathematics, chemistry etc. are in Danish, however there is a book available in Faroese language in mathematics, but it is up to the teacher which books he or she will use, and her teacher preferred a Danish book. It was forbidden to teach in the Faroese language before 1938, surely you must find it relevant in this article?
Do you think that I have added references that are not reliable? Which ones? --EileenSanda (talk) 13:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi again Eileen! I meant the first, that the books are in Danish, that's what I understand by language of instruction. I used this as a source to support it. On the second issue, I didn't say that you added non reliable sources. I noticed that you added some phrases with no source supporting them. For example "It is mostly men who take the maritime educations." in the Maritime Education section, " The pupils pay between 1200 and 1600 DKK each year in order to get lessons." (Music School) and "The municipalities pay a part of the wages and the Ministry of Culture pay a part." (Evening School). The reviewer has already wrote about it in the review. I bet that what you say is true, but you have to support it with a reliable source to stand on Wikipedia. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 17:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Ok, then I misunderstood the text. The last thing you mention is something I know from my work, I work in the administration of the municipality in my village. That frase about "between 1200 and 1600 DDK was from a source, did I forget to add the referece? I will check it out later. EileenSanda (talk) 18:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I found a source which confirms what I knew, that the municipalities pay the wages for the evening courses and after the courses are finished, the municipality sends a bill to the Ministry of Culture, which then refunds half of some of the wages and 100% of some of the wages (for courses for people with disability). EileenSanda (talk) 06:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Good evening Eileen. I've noticed that you've added a history section in the article, a section that was much needed. I think there is a problem with that edit: although its content would be useful for the University of the Faroe Islands article, it's way too long in the context of the Education in the Faroe Islands article. I mean, the paragraph History>Fróðskaparsetur Føroya is 325 words long, while the whole Higher education>University of the Faroe Islands section is 127 long. At the same time in the University of the Faroe Islands article, the History section is a mere 143 words. I think that the historical facts concerning the University should be reduced to a couple of sentences.
Secondly the paragraph you added in the Language section ("Until 1938 it was a culpable[...]but the Danish government did not listen and Dahl became the provost of the Faroe Islands in 1917.") would be a better fit in the History section, since it doesn't present the current situation of language in Faroese education, but rather it gives a historical perspective of the issue. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 14:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, perhaps it is best to move a part of that section to the article about the university of the Faroe Islands, or at least the same text should be there also. You are welcome to move it to where you think it belongs, but leave at least some of it in the article (in my opinion). I could write more about the various kinds of education one can take on the university. It is only a few years since the teacher, educationist and nurse educations became a part of the university. I have a book which tells some of the history of education back to 12th century, it is written by a Faroese historian Hans Jacob Debes, (he passed away some years ago), . I will write something about it, and if it gets too long, you can edit it and make it shorter. I often write too much. EileenSanda (talk) 16:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Actually I have already written about the merger of the Faroese School of Education and the Faroese School of Nursing with the University of the Faroe Islands in the University's article. I think the merger should be mentioned in the history section as well. I don't think that the section concerning the University should be expanded, it is supposed to be an outline after all and it has a link to the main article.
Other than that WP:UNIGUIDE discourages from adding every single degree given by a university per WP:NOTDIR, even in the University's article itself, let alone an article where the University is just a small part of it. The part about the Middle Ages was great. Another part needed, would be the establishment of modern educational institutions, or any major reforms that have taken place in the education on the Islands. The article will most possibly fail its GA nomination at this point, I just hope that we get some analytical directions and ask it to be reassessed shortly. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 19:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I will write more about the history of education in the Faroe Islands, it just takes some time to read the books I have lent from the library, one of them is called "Tórshavnar skúlasøga" (The school history of Tórshavn) which looks interesting. Yes, hopefully the article will pass as GA soon.
Could you find a reference for the sentence "It is mostly men who take the maritime educations."? It was in the Maritime Education section but I've removed it, since the reviewer noticed it was unreferenced. Please readd it if you find a suitable reference (a newspaper would be great). Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 12:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Here is a photo with text, the photo is showing 16 new marine eningeers from Vinnuháskúlin from 2014, they are all men. Here is another source, it is from Vinnuháskúlin, showing photos of marine engineers and shipmasters (skippers), also here there are only men, they finished their education in June 2015. --EileenSanda (talk) 14:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I've moved the Sheep Document picture to the Faroese language article; I think it's more relevant there. A great picture for the Education in the Faroe Islands article would be some books of Faroese schools, some of them in Faroese and some in Danish. That would be a great illustration of the fact that both Faroese and Danish langage books are used in the Faroese educational system. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 17:31, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I could take such a photo, yes, that would illustrate it. --EileenSanda (talk) 19:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Góðan morgun Eileen. I've noticed that you've expanded the history section of the article. I think that you're getting into too much detail. I've already reduced the history of the University here. I think I'll do the same for the latest additions. Have in mind the the History section in the Education in Malta is 600 words long, and 150 words long for Iceland (these two are already rated as Good Articles); the Faroese counterpart is already over 1,200 words. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 08:35, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Most important Faroese people?[edit]

Hi Eileen. Could you please tell you are the two most important figures of Faroese history? I've done some search and I could single out the following (from this list): Niels Ryberg Finsen, Nólsoyar Páll, Grímur Kamban, Venceslaus Ulricus Hammershaimb. It's about seting rating examples in WikiProject Faroes importance scale. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 21:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi. A bit difficult to say. Yes, those you mention and from older history also Sigmundur Brestisson who brought Christianity to the islands (according to the Icelandic sagas) and Tróndur í Gøtu. King Sverre must be one of the must important also, he was Norwegian born but raised in the Faroe Islands and lived there until he was around 25 years old. Jakob Jakobsen was also known for his work for the Faroese language, also for his work for the now dead language of the Shetland Islands, Norn. If we look at the newer history, William Heinesen, the writer and artist is one of the writers who is best known outside of the Faroes I think. Jóannes Patursson is well known in the Faroe Islands, as the founder of Sjálvstýrisflokkurin and co-founder of Fólkaflokkurin, but he is also known as a writer. I don't think he is known else where than in the Faroe Islands though. Ruth Smith (artist) (1913-1958) was a well known artist not only in the Faroe Islands but also in the Nordic countries and else where. Sámal Joensen-Mikines (1906-1979) is also a well known artist. In very recent history, like just now and a few years back, the swimmer Pál Joensen is the most famous Faroese person I think, the only one who has won medals at European Championships and World Championships and one of two Faroese people who have ever competed at the Olympics. Olaf Johannessen is the most know Faroese actor, he has won prizes in Denmark and Germany. But I guess that when we talk about history it must be persons who lived a long time ago. I can't say just which two I consider most important, perhaps Grímur Kamban for being the first to settle, Sigmundur Brestisson because of the Christianity, there are several statues of him around the islands. There are also several "kvæði" ballads about him and other persons from the Faroese Saga from Iceland. And Nólsoyar Páll is often referred to as an important figure because he stood up against the Danish authorities in the Faroes who forbid al trade in the islands exept for the Royal monopoly store in Tórshavn. Today it takes two hours from my island by ferry to Tórshavn, can you imagine how long it must have taken to row in open row boats the same distance? It took several days and the water has stong current, it is quite dangerous. And they were not allowed to by from foreig ships which saild to the Faroes but risk their lives by rowing to Tórshavn. There are several other persons who are known in the Faroese history but who don't have an article in Wikipedia like Páll Fangi (prisoner) from the Northern Islands. EileenSanda (talk) 01:43, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. From what you've said I'd single out Nólsoyar Páll, Sigmundur Brestisson and Niels Ryberg Finsen. The first for being an important figure in the formation of a Faroese identity. The second for bringing Christianity in the islands, which is an imporant part of Faroese society. Niels Ryberg Finsen would be there for winning a world-renowned prize. I'll place a top importance rating to these three and a high importance rating to the rest. I'm working on assessing every and each article of WikiProject Faroe Islands; I think it will be completed by the end of the next week. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 11:00, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Ok, a good thing that you do that. Yes, Finsen is very important of course! I just read about him here on Wikipedia and found that a reference was needed, so I searched and found a very interesting Danish website which quoted from his letters and his fathers letters to him while he was going on the Danish boarding school Herlufsholm. It is in Danish. Congratz with Education in the Faroe Islands becoming a GA :) EileenSanda (talk) 12:25, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips. Congratz to you too; FA wouldn't be realized without your contributions either. I'm trying to attract more people in WikiProject Faroe Islands at his point. You've got a great country and deserve graet articles on Wikipedia. Hopefully I'll be able to visit the Faroes at some point in my life. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 16:17, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Education in the Faroe Islands has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

Faroese football players[edit]

Halló Eileen. Hvussu hevur tú tað? I've just created an article about Heðin á Lakjuni. In the course of the article's creation I found a few pages that could help in the creation of articles about other Faroese footballers (or for the expansion of existing articles), and since you've been creating such pages I think that these pages would be of help. Here they are. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 21:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Halló Hansi667, eg havi tað gott :) I know about Faroesoccer.com and I often use it, but I don't know what you mean about in.fo having a database back to 1997, I didn't know that, it must be new. I found some old articles now by using the "Leita á in.fo" (Search on in.fo), is that how you found out or how did you learn about this? In.fo is only a few years old, a few years ago, Sosialurin did not have their own new website, in stead they had an agreement with portal.fo, which at that time was owned by the national telephon company Føroya Tele, and the newspaper Sosialurin (which owns in.fo) provided the news for portal.fo. So the news on in.fo must come from either the old portal.fo or from the Sosialurin newspaper. You do know that the English Wikipedia only considers Faroese football players which have played for the Faroe Islands national football team or for a top-league (professional) in other countries, right? Any articles about Faroese football players who have not played on the national team or abroad for a top-league is deleted. I find it quite strange that when lets say Víkingur Gøta should play against a Turkis team, Turkis people who were interested in reading about the players could only read about a few players because they had not been playing for the national team. Several of them had been playing for the U21 nation team, but that does not count. So people who might have an interest in reading about Faroese football players who have not yet been playing for the national team should not look for information here on the Englis Wikipedia, in stead they must use other football websites or use google translate for pages in other languages on Wikipedia. But English is the common language which most of the world uses, how come Faroese football players who play in the Faorese league and in Europe if their team is among the top four are notable for the Russian and Italian wikipedias but not for the English? And who defines if a nations top football league is professional or not? Why must money be the most important thing here? Many or perhaps most of the players get payed, but not the very young ones, or not much at least. But why must that define if a football league is notable/interesting or not? I don't understand it. A football player like Finnur Justinussen who was the top goal scoorer for several years but had at that time not yet been playing for the national team but only for the U21, was not considered notable, so the foreign clubs or the supporters of foreign clubs which Víkingur Gøta was playing against could not read here about the top goal scorer, that does not make sence I think. An article about him was created but deleted. Until he got his debut on the national team, not until then he was notable for the English Wikipedia. That is quite snobbish in my opinion. Alex José dos Santos is a Brasilian football player who has been playing in the Faroe Islans since 2004. There was an article about him here, but is has been deleted, because he has not played for any national team. But he is still a good football player, and perhaps foreign clubs who have played against HB Tórshavn, B36 Tórhavn or EB/Streymur would find it interesting that a Brasilian is playing football in the Faroe Islands professionally, but can they read about him in the worlds largest Wikipedia? No. The same is for Lukasz Cieslewicz, a Polich football player, who grew up partially in the Faroe Islands because hes father was playing football here. He has been chosen as the best football player in the Faroese top-league, and has been playing here since 2011. But can people read about him in English on Wikipedia, no. He is not considered notable because he has not been playing for a national team yet. However the Turkish, Russian, Malagasy, Italian, French, Faroese and German Wikipedia do find hm notable. There was a story about him and his brother Adrian who were playing against each other in the Champions League, read about it here on BBC and here on UEFA.com. Strangely enough Adrian would be considered notable here because he is playing in a top league in Wales, The New Saints F.C., but nobody has written about him yet, I can only find him on the Polish Wikipedia pl:Adrian Cieślewicz. But as I mentioned 7 Wikipedias find his brother Lukasz interesting and notable, while the English Wikipedia finds him not notable. --EileenSanda (talk) 06:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi there again! Concerning in.fo: I use the Leita á in.fo field to enter the term and then I sort the resultsw by date (Sortera eftir). I go to the last page (Síðsta), to find out the total number of pages that include my search term. For example if I search the term TB Tvøroyri and go to the last page I see that there are totally 65 pages. At the address bar you can see =65 at the end (total number of page results minus one). By changing that number you can go to any page of the results, and find some news in a date that you are interested (e.g. their 2004 second division win). You can use in.fo in this way to find a player's transfer news report. I don't know where this database comes from.
Concerning Faroese football players and their notability: members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Football have reached consensus about notability of football players. These notability guidilines about football players can be seen here. To assist members find wich leagues are professional they have created a list of fully professional leagues. The Faroe Islands Premier League is not a fully professional league, since players in professional leagues are solely and full-time employed by their respective clubs. Since the Effodeildin is not a professional league, Faroese players have to fulfill the third criterion (play for a FIFA national team) to be automaticly considered notable per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability. On the other hand it is clearly stated that a player could be notable enough when he/she complies with WP:GNG, even if he doesn't fulfill any of those four criteria. That said, if you can show that a player has enough reports about him, in various news portals, that would mean that notability is established per WP:GNG (that shouldn't be just trivial menttioning of the player e.g. his name in a match report).
Concerning Lukasz Cieslewicz I have made some research of him and I firmly believe that, although he doesn't comply with Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability, he is notable enough per WP:GNG since he has many reports about himself by various reliable sources (including in.fo, portal.fo, BBC, UEFA, and some Polish and Danish sites). In such cases that notability is not obvious you should consider leaving a note on the articles talk page explaining why it meets WP:GNG although it doesn't meet Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability. I'll create the article about Łukasz Cieślewicz, to show you how this could be done. Hope that helped. Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 15:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation regarding in.fo, I will try that! And thank also for the explanation about the football players. Yes, I know about the rules, I am just a bit frustrated about them some times. Of cource there need to be rules, I know. Any way, "our" article reached the front page today in the DYK, I am very glad about that :) I saw it there this morning, but it seems that it is not there any longer, but anyway that was very good! EileenSanda (talk) 16:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
If you are interested, there is a profile of Łukasz Cieślewicz made by the Faroese Television Kringvarp Føroya (we mostly call it the shorter form Kringvarpið), I have not seen it before, I just found it now by searching on Google. He speaks English in the interview. He is working with cars half time. After 5 years in Faroese football, he has won three Faroese championships and a bronze medal. Atli Gregersen says, that if it was not for Cieslewicz, Víkingur Gøta would have won the championship three times. Cieslewicz is living with his girlfriend and their daughter, he says that he hopes to get a Danish/Faroese passport next year and then he will be able to play for the Faroese national football team. EileenSanda (talk) 17:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi there again. I have just finished Łukasz Cieślewicz's article. I have left a message on the top of the article's edit page, asking people to have a loog at the article's talk page, before nominating it for deletion. I have nominated the Education in the Faroe Islands to appear in the Main Page. Heðin á Lakjuni is also accepted to appear in the main page. I think I'll place an Did you know...? nomination for Cieslewicz as well. Have a look here to see how you could nominate your own articles to appear in the main page. The Education in the Faroe Islands article was read by over 1,500 people in the day it appeared in the Main Page.Hansi667 (Neighbor Of The Beast) a penny for your thoughts? 18:07, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Education in the Faroe Islands[edit]

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Fiskpälast[edit]

Fiskpälast is a canned tuna company and it does exist but no one believes me. --Rœskìtt (talk) 11:20, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't believe you. There would have been some Google search results, if it existed, and I think I would have heard about it if it was a Faroese company. --EileenSanda (talk) 13:09, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Also there is no ä in Faroese, it would be strange if a Faroese company used the letter ä in its name. --EileenSanda (talk) 13:11, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
The company chooses not to be published online or in press because they are run by Mormons. It is only known to it's consumers. It is unique. The letter 'ä' does exist in Faroe Islands, one example would be Fiskpälast. --Rœskìtt (talk) 15:14, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

About Women[edit]

Hi EileenSanda. I'm an editor of the Italian Wikipedia. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks,--Kenzia (talk) 12:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Torkil Veyhe[edit]

(This discussion has been copied from the talkpage of Northamerica1000 / moved from the talkpage of the article about Torkil Veyhe, which has been created again today on 9 July 2016, after being deleted in November 2015)

Hello. You deleted the article about Torkil Veyhe after a discussion in November 2015. He has recently won his first UCI points at the Himmerland Rundt in Denmark, which is part of the Europe Tour 2016 and a few days ago he won a cycling race in Denmark called Marcello Bergamo Cup (also known as Pinsecuppen in Danish), he won one of the stages (the second of three) and was the winner of the general classification. He won against cyclists like Lasse Norman Hansen og Matti Breschel. I don't know if these recent results change anything regarding his notability or not? --EileenSanda (talk) 11:14, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Here is another source, this one is in English: Firstcycling.com --EileenSanda (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @EileenSanda: It's still unclear if the subject meets WP:NCYCLING, listed in part below:

A male cyclist is presumed notable if he:

  1. rode professionally in a UCI World Tour;
  2. rode in a Grand Tour or Monument;
  3. competed at the Olympics or UCI World Championships or UCI World Cup;
  4. won Gold at an international multi-sport event (games) (also includes races like the World University Cycling Championship);
  5. won a UCI category race (minimum classification 1.1 / 2.1, including Continental and National Championships).

Source review

  • This source states that he competed in the 2016 Himmerland Rundt, which is a UCI event, but this does not appear to be a UCI world tour, UCI World Championships or UCI World Cup.
  • Winning the Marcello Bergamo Cup does not appear to meet WP:NCYCLING
  • Unless I'm missing something, the events the subject competed in per this link you provided does not appear to be congruent with WP:NCYCLING. North America1000 21:40, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Ok, let's wait then. Perhaps he will compete in one of the types of races you mention later this year. Thanks for your reply. EileenSanda (talk) 22:31, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
There are some news now regarding Torkil Veyhe. He was number two in 2016 Sønderborg Post-Cup. The ranking list of the Danish cycling website Feltet.dk says now, that Torkil Veyhe is number 5 in Denmark with 78 points, in front of Lasse Norman Hansen. His team is also one of the best in Denmark right now, his team is number five, in front of the continental team Team Soigneur-Copenhagen Pro Cycling. This Faroese website writes about him, saying he is one of the best cyclists in Denmark. Is he still not notable enough for the English Wikipedia? --EileenSanda (talk) 21:13, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
@EileenSanda: At this point, I may not analyze this subject further, because I am busy working on other matters. If you feel the subject meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines, you can create a draft for the subject at Draft:Torkil Veyhe and then submit it to Articles for creation, where your submission can be reviewed. An easy way to do this is to place {{Userspace draft}} atop the draft page and then select the "Submit your draft for review" link. North America1000 20:26, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000: Hello. No, I am not writing a draft, I already wrote an article about him which was deleted by you after a discussion. Either he is notable or he is not. Today he was number two in the Post Cup in Hasle, Bornholm, just after Troels Vinther. The race was not a UCI-race, but a category A race. He won gold at the Island Games, but in the deletion-discussion last year, it was concluded that the Island Games did not meet number 4 in the rules: won Gold at an international multi-sport event (games) (also includes races like the World University Cycling Championship); - so he is probably not notable according to those criteria you mention above. --EileenSanda (talk) 18:19, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
The Danish cycling website Feltet.dk writes about Torkil Veyhe right now. They say that no one had expected that he would be among the first three riders on the goal today. At the end of the article they say that Veyhe will compete at the Danish Championship in time trial in less than three weeks from now. --EileenSanda (talk) 18:31, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Last weekend Veyhe and his team competed in two UCI 1.2 races. He was number 9 in GP Horsens yesterday and won the Mountains classification. On Saturday he was number 31 at the Fyen Rundt. Yesterday the Danish TV-station TV2 Øst told the story about his team, the headline was Amatørhold i verdensklasse (World class amateur team). --EileenSanda (talk) 06:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
@EileenSanda: I understand where you're coming from, but do these sources equate to qualification for a Wikipedia article relative to WP:NCYCLING, WP:BASIC or WP:GNG? I'm not fluent enough in Danish to discern the depth of coverage about the subject in this source you provided above. This source provides what could be considered as significant coverage, but it's unclear if this would be considered as an independent, reliable source as per Wikipedia's standards. This source you provided only provides mentions, and its reliability is also unclear. North America1000 20:32, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

I think that WP:GNG applies to Veyhe now. TV2 i one of the largest Danish TV-channels in Denmark, it is private and has also local channels, this one the TV2 Øst is for Eastern Jutlandia with Aarhus, where the team comes from. The other source is Feltet.dk, which was established in 2003 and three years later became the latgest cycling-internet website of Scandinavia. I would say that it is reliable and independent. --EileenSanda (talk) 21:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Here is another Danish source Cykelmagasinet.dk which discussed favourites before the Fyen Rundt. First they mention four riders from pro-teams, and the then the article says:
"En af de stærkste i år har været Team WeBike-CK Aarhus' Torkil Veyhe, der senest blev nummer to i Post Cuppen på Bornholm og vandt Pinsecuppen. Formen virker til at være vanvittig god, så hvis løbet bliver hårdt, så ser vi sandsynligvis Veyhe med fremme." which means:
"One of the strongest this year has been Torkil Veyhe from Team WeBike-CK Aarhus, whose last results were number two in the Post Cup on Bornholm and winner of the Pinsecuppen. He seems to be in extremely good condition, so if the race gets tuff, we are likely to se Veyhe in the front." --EileenSanda (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Here is another Danish source Aarhus Cyclebane which has a photo of Veyhe with this text:
"Team WeBike - C.K. Aahrus' Torkil Veyhe, blev hædret for sin samlede sejr i Marcello Bergamo Cuppen, sammen med sine holdkammerater." Which means:
"Torkil Veyhe from Team WeBike – C.K. Aahrus was honoured for his victory of the General classification in the Marcello Bergamo Cup, along with his team mates." --EileenSanda (talk) 23:57, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @EileenSanda: At this time, I'm not going to perform more research regarding this subject, because I am working on other matters. If you would like, I can userfy the article for you to User:EileenSanda/Torkil Veyhe or another suitable title of your choosing, where you can improve the content to demonstrate that the subject meets notability guidelines. After this, if you feel that the subject meets notability guidelines, you can then place {{Userspace draft}} atop the page and then select the "Submit your draft for review" link, which will submit the entry to Articles for creation, where your submission can be reviewed. I strongly recommend taking this route, whereby an uninvolved, third-party reviewer can assess the notability of the subject. Note that if the article were to be republished verbatim in the state that it was in at the time of deletion, it would qualify for speedy deletion per WP:G4 as a recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. North America1000 23:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: -that sound like a good idea. Can you create that page for me with the content of the deleted page? Thanks. EileenSanda (talk) 05:54, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
@EileenSanda: Yes check.svg Done. The content has been userfied to User:EileenSanda/Torkil Veyhe. North America1000 19:57, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Torkil Veyhe (July 8)[edit]

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Hello! EileenSanda, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Tseung Kwan O (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello User:Tseung Kwan O - How can you call me a new editor? I have been active contributor to Wikipedia since November 2009. I don't understand your critic when you say that there are Norwegian words in the article. I found only one "og" word, which is Faroese and Danish for "and" (I don't write in Norwegian), it was a small mistake, I missed it when I translated the text from either the Danish or Faroese article. Do you still find non-English words? The races in Denmark have Danish names, I did not translate them. Perhaps I should make the article shorter? He will compete at the Danmark Rundt later this month with the Danish national team. Do you find him notable or not? I submitted the article for review because it was deleted in November 2015. I had a discussion with the editor who deleted it, because Veyhe has had several good results this year in Danish competitions, he has won over Matti Breschel who currently competes at the Tour de France. He was seeded number 5 in the Danish seeding list of Feltet.dk. The deleting editor did not have time to make a decision and asked me to submit it as a draft for review. EileenSanda (talk) 00:18, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
My sincerest apologies for falsely accusing you of writing in a foreign language in English WP. When I checked some of the proper nouns in your submission, Google Translate translated them into common nouns, so I assumed that the words were in fact common English words that were not yet fully translated. Well, now you have proven me wrong and I hereby retract my statement. You are welcome to resubmit your article for review, and I'll be happy to accept now that you have clarified the misunderstanding. Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 00:52, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Accepted :) Thanks, I have resubmitted the draft. Kind regards EileenSanda (talk) 09:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

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