User talk:Eisfbnore

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FAC grammar review?[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore, I just nominated VHEMT at FAC. I think we've gotten the grammar in good shape, but I'd love if you could take a look at it when you have time. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:11, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey Mark, my plate is full at the moment, but I'd love to have a look at it when I have an uninterrupted chunk of time. Cheers, Eisfbnore talk 18:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Sure, take your time. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay done; 'tis a great article methinks. Eisfbnore talk 11:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Spanish conquest of Guatemala FAC[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore - many thanks for your review of Spanish conquest of Guatemala. The process is drawing on with only one reviewer committing themselves so far, so I would appreciate it if you could return to the review page. User:Malleus Fatuorum has pointed out to me that many reviewers will be discouraged by the length of the article... Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:37, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I've gone ahead and supported it. I'll admit that there were parts of the article which I didn't review. And the length notwithstanding, it's a very user-friendly and accessible article. --Eisfbnore talk 08:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Empire of Brazil task force[edit]

I really hope you won't try to remove the Empire of Brazil task force from it's related articles' talk page again. --Lecen (talk) 21:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Is that a threat? Actually, I didn't remove task force tags, only tags linking to the Former Countries Wikiproject. Get your facts straight. Eisfbnore talk 21:07, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
The Empire of Brazil task force is part of the WikiProject Former countries and it was us who brought all those articles to FA standard. --Lecen (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Ah. It would perhaps have been a good idea to mention that in the edit summaries rather than putting good-faith edits under the vandalism banner. Eisfbnore talk 21:19, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Christian Friele[edit]

I shall certainly review the article for GA if someone else doesn't get in first. Give me a couple of days, please, as I am a bit tied up just at the moment. Regards. Tim riley (talk) 19:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry to say that though I enjoyed the article, I could not pass it as it stands if I were to review it for GA. It is too unsubstantial; the lead is not comprehensive; several statements are speculative; there is quite a bit of editorial comment (e.g. "curtly stating"); statements are not followed up ("later would write a scornful play" but no details); and above all else there are only two paragraphs on Friele's productive career, and that, to my mind, falls well short of the GA standard for comprehensiveness. You may well disagree with me on some or all of these points, in which case you may prefer to await a GAN review by another editor, and I shall of course perfectly understand if you so opt. If, however, you want me to proceed, please let me know. My apologies for being a wet blanket! Tim riley (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Phew! I'm so pleased I didn't offend you and we're still on friendly terms. Best of luck with the rewrite. Tim riley (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

March 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Hacker (computer security), is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

a) don't template the regulars; b) the user is a sockpuppet of Sju hav. Eisfbnore talk 15:52, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. a) Sorry for the template - I saw only a short Talk page history and thought you were new (I missed your move to archive page). b) You should really only remove edits by socks once they have been proved and blocked as socks, and I see no block, no "sock" tags, and no mention at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sju hav/Archive. You may well be right, but we'd need more than just your assertion - I suggest a new SPI. c) You left no edit summary to say what you were doing. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I should have left an edit summary. OTOH, I've gone slightly tired of the jejune SPI process, and at no point was I wrong in my assumptions of sockpuppetry. The user has exactly the same style of edits (note the erroneous use of spaced em-dashes instead of en-dashes in the edit summaries), so I really do think that WP:DUCK should apply. Eisfbnore talk 16:14, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
OK, I'll have a look myself shortly and see if I can be confident enough for a duck block. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I think you're right - but I've filed a new SPI just to get someone else to check - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sju hav -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Many thanks for your detailed FA review of Spanish conquest of Guatemala, correcting all my grammatical howlers and for coming back to support the article. Much appreciated, Simon Burchell (talk) 15:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Why, thank you, Mr. Burchell—the internet is richer with this article! Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 21:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review?[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore, I was wondering if you could take a look at Elias Abraham Rosenberg and possibly weigh in at a peer review that I have open? It's only 1500 words or so, should be a quick read. I'm just about ready to nominate it at FAC and I wanted to get another look at the prose. No problem if you're busy though, Mark Arsten (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Well done, Mark: it's of your usual high quality. I left a few comments. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 21:39, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment! I really appreciate your willingness to help and your sense of humor :) Mark Arsten (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
At FAC now, hopefully I resolved the issues from the peer review! Mark Arsten (talk) 03:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Source reviewing[edit]

Thank you for your review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Georg Solti/archive1. I hope shortly to have Pierre Monteux at FAC (perhaps a week or so hence) at which stage I'd welcome your review of that article if you had time and inclination. Tim riley (talk) 22:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Of course. Please nag me once it reaches the FAC page. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 09:53, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Moss Jernverk[edit]

Hi, I have started to translate the article about Moss Jernverk, any help in correcting my mistakes would be much welcome, both regarding proofreading and formatting. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey Ulf Larsen! Hope you're well. Please let me know when you consider yourself finished. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 15:30, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
It will take some time, but if you could have a look at the reference section and see if you can add the correct heading for notes that would be good, as I do not know what is used for it here on English language version of Wikipedia. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 11:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Disregard the above message, I managed. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 12:23, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Anyhow, I performed a very light copy-edit to the interesting article & hope you're satisfied—if not, then please revert. Our own article on English grammar, albeit descriptive, gives quite decent advice on the use of sentence-level grammar in this beautiful language. Cheers. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 19:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, no problem with any copy-edit, I am not that good in English and my aim is to have the whole article rudely translated into English, then hopefully others will help me out with it, and the article will also be translated into other languages. It is already fully translated into Swedish and Russian and Estonian has started. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 13:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey, no big deal and anytime! Your English is actually very good; you only need to work a bit on the grammar, esp. verb conjugations and parallelisms. The morphology of Modern English is fairly simple (can't really say that about this one), albeit irregular and inflexible. If you'd like to improve your written English, I would recommend these webpages/books:
Hope this helps, Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 15:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for help and advice, I'll keep the links and probably buy the book. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 11:09, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
You're very welcome. The English grammar books by Lysvåg are definitely somewhat pricey, but they give invaluable guidance into the realm of English grammar for those (like you) who already possess a good knowledge of Norwegian grammar. Please, let me know if I can help you with anything else. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 12:00, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
PS: It seems like some of Lysvåg's books are available for loan at Deichman. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 12:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The new additions look good; just tell me when you consider yourself finished and I'll dip my toe into it. Thanks, btw, for the interesting article; I wish that there would be more Norwegian editors writing on the Anglophone Wikipedia. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 18:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

I have now translated the whole of the article into English, help with proofreading is much appreciated. Best regards Ulflarsen (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey again! Glad to see you're done. I am, regrettably and lamentably, in the midst of my exams and have very little time for WP editing. I hope I'll get around to do some copy-editing in June, though. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 07:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your effort in checking the article! Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 10:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Anytime. I have one question though: Why have you translated the footnoted quotes from the cited books? I guess our policy is to simply let the original quotes stand in their original language... Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 19:41, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


A Barnstar!
A smile for you

You’ve just received a random act of kindness! (talk) 22:42, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Idiotboxes Infoboxes[edit]

I laughed aloud at your subtle addition to the William Walton talk page. It is remarkable how some people think they have a monopoly of wisdom in the face of a consensus to the contrary. I have just run across another at Talk:Piano music of Gabriel Fauré: all the peer reviewers and FAC scrutineers must have been completely wrong. Heigh ho!

I am working (in my sandbox at the moment) on the main Gabriel Fauré article, with a view to getting it to FA standard. At the appropriate stage might you be willing to do a source review? A tedious and time-consuming task, I know, but I'd be grateful if you had time and inclination. Tim riley (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Heh, reminds me of Ibsen's quote "A minority may be right, and a majority is always wrong". I'm looking forward to do a source review for Monteux, and will of course do the same for Fauré. Perhaps you could return the favour and GA review Halvdan Koht for us northerners (me, Geschichte, Manxruler and Oceanh? It is of course a bit long, but also very interesting for an Anglophone reader (perhaps more so for the Americans though). Best wishes. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 14:57, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I shall review Halvdan Koht forthwith. Previous GA reviews I've done have taken me 24 hours or so to get to first comments on the review page, so tune in tomorrow at this time! Tim riley (talk) 15:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
After first quick read-through: it's mostly in British spelling, but a few American spellings have crept in. Shall I just change the US ones to UK spellings without further comment? I can do that without disqualifying myself as GA reviewer. Tim riley (talk) 15:23, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I raised the same issue at Geschichte's talk page, but he has yet to respond. I think that owing to Koht's connection with the US, AmEng would be more reasonable. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 15:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Fine. I'll deal with it. More tomorrow. 15:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Halvdan Koht[edit]

Having read the article I wonder if I might suggest that you allow me to copy edit it in advance of a GA review by someone else? It is a superb piece of work considering that you wrote it in a language not your own, but there are numerous turns of phrase that look strange to the native speaker, and momentarily distract one from the narrative. Once these are ironed out I think it should be fine at GAN. Tim riley (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

'Twas Geschichte who wrote it; I've merely been doing some small copy-editing to it. I think he'll be more than happy to have a native English speaker's language polishing on it though. I'll drop him a note. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 11:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
It would be splendid, Tim. Geschichte (talk) 14:00, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Great – many thanks! Already in your debt Tim, I feel obliged to do a source review for Fauré and Monteux! Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 10:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Subjunctive in Dutch[edit]

I have reverted your reversion to this article because, to quote an earlier comment here, there are numerous turns of phrase that look strange to the native speaker. Ehrenkater (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh come on, you can't really say that with a straight face, can you?! The English grammar of your revision was so atrocious that it almost made me laugh. "In contemporary Dutch, a wide range of fixed expressions make use of the conjunctive exist." Can't you see how ungrammatical that is? --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 06:32, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
That looks more like a slip than poor language possession. Surely you wouldn't hold a doublet (and and) against someone as evidence of deficient language skills? (Just making a comment, I haven't evaluated any of the edits you are discussing.) __meco (talk) 06:46, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Aside from that one slip-up, Ehrenkater's changes were very much improvements to the prose. Cheers, Auree 08:42, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Bulgaria nomination[edit]

Hi, I changed the examples you pointed out in the Bulgaria nomination, along with some other sentences with similar problems you didn't point out. I hope it's an improvement. I'll do my best to make it a smoother read, especially the Geography and Demographic sections, but my time for Wiki is sort of limited. - ☣Tourbillon A ? 10:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I've given the rest of my review. I'm not ready to give it a full support though, as the narrative is IMHO not that brilliant and professional, albeit mostly grammatically correct. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 13:50, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I made some corrections to style, connections between paragraphs and flow. Even if you don't support it, I'd appreciate a general opinion on which sections would need more improvements. Thanks the remarks. - ☣Tourbillon A ? 09:54, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Content Review Medal[edit]

CRM.png The Content Review Medal of Merit  
By order of the Military History WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted work on the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured Article Candidate reviews for the first quarter of 2012, I am delighted to award you this Content Review Medal. - Dank (push to talk) 03:32, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Why thank you Dank, terribly kind of you. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 06:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
My pleasure. Btw, thanks for your offer of help with the German in MisterBee's article, but I've got the German covered ... I just need to get the English source and we should be good to go. - Dank (push to talk) 17:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

1740 Batavia massacre[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore, I've replied to your comments at the nomination. They've all been addressed. Thank you for the review! Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've supported. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 13:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Augustine theodicy[edit]

Hi there, Eisfbnore. You recently reviewed my FAC nomination of Augustinian theodicy here. I have addressed the issues you raised - I wondered if you could have another look and give any further feedback you had? Thanks. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 15:12, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I took a few days off Wikipedia, so I didn't manage to support it before it failed. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 13:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Due to[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore, I seem to recall that you mentioned it was a bad idea to start a sentence with "Due to..." a month or two back, am I remembering correctly? Mark Arsten (talk) 19:53, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey Mark! Hope all is well. Yes, you do recall correctly: 'Due to' is adjectival and modifies a noun through a conjugated form of 'to be', whilst 'owing to' modifies all other verbs. Hence, 'due to' needs a noun antecedent and can therefore not start a sentence. This website rocks da house. Sorry for the late reply. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 10:09, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, a late reply, but a very good one. I'll make a note of that when reviewing. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:07, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Gabriel Fauré[edit]

You were kind enough to say that you would do a source review for one of my future FACs. I now have Fauré up for FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Gabriel Fauré/archive1), and I'll be most grateful if you have time to do a source review for it. Tim riley (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

User:Brianboulton has done a source review, but not spot checks of my sources. I wonder if you might be willing to do a sample spot check? Tim riley (talk) 20:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Please ignore the above. The article has sailed through FAC with astonishing speed, and is now promoted. Tim riley (talk) 14:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

A special gift[edit]

Semar Kris (alt) 3.jpg for a special review
Hi Eisfbnore, thanks a lot for the prose review at the recent (successful) FAC for 1740 Batavia massacre; I'm especially glad you fixed up my (admittedly terrible) translations of the Dutch titles. In thanks, I'm giving you a collectible kris. The blade is iron with gold leaf and it has a twin naga design. Hopefully you don't have one yet! Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the original barnstar. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 12:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


What's with the horizontal bars over vowels? We didn't have them when I did Latin at school, though that was nearly fifty years ago. If you move on to ancient Greek I don't think we did accents there, though we did rough and smooth breathings. Your willingness to master languages fills me with admiration. Tim riley (talk) 20:21, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I guess the horizontal bars are there to indicate that the vowels are long. I am currently learning Latin from a 1915 Norwegian textbook, and it features the bars, so I think it's rather a question of different schools of Latin than time frames. The bars can be quite vital: note the difference between ēst (he/she/it eats) and est (he/she/it is) or between mālum (an apple) and malum (an evil). You'll find the bars at wiktionary (though not in the titles). --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 07:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Dear me! You sweep me back through the decades to Latin lessons:
Malo – I would rather be
Malo – In an apple tree
Malo – Than a naughty boy
Malo – In adversity
Used by Benjamin Britten in The Turn of the Screw (1954), so perhaps my Latin beaks got it from Britten rather than Ovid or Horace. Tim riley (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents[edit]

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May 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Gunnar Sønsteby. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. You need to offer more than "because I said so" regarding the removal of cited content that doesn't appear in the least undue. Calton | Talk 14:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

If you have been here for seven years, I am curious to know why you would think it necessary to template a regular. Also, why art thou not more appreciative of my efforts to keep Wikipedia free for POV-pushing? This person has been trashing Norwegian BLPs with criticism sections, malformed citations and atrociously poor grammar for the last two years. See Harald Sunde (general) for an example. I am getting slightly tired of this incessant combat against this sock farm, and even more tired of having to explain it to every single ignorant templater. When I get ANI'ed for doing this service I feel, quite frankly, rather disenchanted. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 15:10, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
For someone who knows enough to whinge about templating the regulars -- but not enough to read the added comments at the end of the message -- you seem woefully uninformed about some basic policies, such not screwing around with other people's comments without a good reason -- and "because I said so" ain't it -- and WP:NPA -- attacking someone who was helping you earlier with your snipe hunt, as User:meco was doing, just because they decided they needed evidence and all that other stuff? And if anyone is "ignorant", it might be due to your unwillingness -- or inability -- to do more than wave your hands about and sputter when asked for actual reasons. The SPI came up empty: if you want to explain what actual knowledge you have -- and, again, "because I said so" ain't it -- give it a shot. --Calton | Talk 23:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Why are you feeding the trolls? I have no idea as to why the SPI came up empty, but I can bet my house on that No parking here is a sock of Sju hav. The exactly same editing type: immediately after creating an account they start littering Norwegian BLPs with criticism sections and other manure. Just look at how hideous the bio for the Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jonas Gahr Støre, looks after the editing sessions of the Sju hav socks.

If you take a look at the history of WT:NORWAY, you'll perhaps see why there is good reason to remove the trolling from the Sju hav socks. They have been spamming said talk page with their agenda against the Norwegian government. Take a look at this. With the help of meco,[1][2][3] they have been turning WT:NORWAY into a soapbox of grievances against the Norwegian government.

Rather than shooting the messenger – which you are currently doing – you should be more worried about the integrity of Wikipedia. Methinks you are a very poor Wikipedia editor, if you think it is more important to let trolls junk vital BLPs than to promote the NPOV ideal of Wikipedia.

Also, having had a look at your block log, I don't think you are the right person to ululate about personal attacks. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 08:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Nice signature[edit]

How'd you come up with it? あなたは日本語をお話せりになりますか。 The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Such brilliant ideas simply slip into the minds of us language mavens. :) --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 08:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar[edit]

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For recent scrutiny. Geschichte (talk) 09:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
👍 Like __meco (talk) 15:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Thx G; I think I owe you a ce or two. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 06:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


Hi, I have started on another project, the Swedish language version of Wikipedia has an extensive article about Kvarstadbåtene, which covers a very interesting section of war-time history of both Sweden, Norway and the UK. I wrote the original article about the ships in the Norwegian language version of Wikipedia, but as the current Swedish is much better I have started to translate it all into Norwegian.

It should however also be translated into the English language version of Wikipedia, is that something that could be of interest for you? If not, if I do the translation, could I at least count on you to proofread it? BR - Ulflarsen (talk) 09:17, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. I'll be finished with my exams this week, so the time should not be that a big problem. Alas, I'm not that into military history (the medals given to me by the milhist folks are solely due to my performing source reviews or very simple style & grammar checks, nothing else), so I don't think I'll have the inclination to translate it. Sorry. I shall of course copy-edit it, if you are willing to translate it. Best wishes. Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 19:41, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Ok - no problem, I will then coordinate the version in Bokmål/Riksmål with the version in Swedish before I start translating it into English, will probably take a couple of weeks before I am about to start the translation. Will notice you when I have finished it and need help in copy-edit. BR - Ulflarsen (talk) 17:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Greetings from Wales ... you are correct.[edit]

‎Early life: rem ungrammatical comma - the adjective "cramped" is attributed to the noun phrase "living conditions"; hence, "living" is not an adjective but an attributive noun.

Yes, you are correct. I shall blame my error on having just returned from a two weeks holiday, and the lateness of the hour.

My father, who was a commissioned officer in the British Army, was in Norway for the latter part of World War II, and always spoke fondly of your country.

With kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Cyfarchion, Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 08:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr, Eisfbnore! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:14, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Iechyd da! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Diolch am hynny! Yr wyf yn sychedig. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 13:19, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)[edit]

Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:

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At this time only the initial 400 editors have accounts, but even if you do not have an account, you still might want to weigh in on which resources would be most valuable for the community (for example, through WikiProject Resource Exchange).

Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.

If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 17:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review?[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore, I currently have Marshall Applewhite up for peer review. I'd love it if you could take a look. It's a bit long, but any comments are welcome. This has been a pretty fun project thus far, I find the subject very interesting. Thanks! Mark Arsten (talk) 18:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments at the peer review, I'll keep an eye out for those issues in the future. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Infobox RfC[edit]

Hi Eisfbnore, I wonder if I could ask for your comment on a debate about an infobox that is taking place at Talk:Peter Sellers#RfC: Is infobox recommended for this bio? There seems to be a feeling among some of the article's editors that the full life of a rather complicated individual can be condensed into a few short lines in a box. Could I please impose and ask for your view? If you have the time it would be much appreciated; it's not a problem if not. Many thanks – SchroCat (^@) 22:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Steenstrup Koht[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Vennesla Library and Culture House[edit]

Hi, could you have a look at Vennesla Library and Culture House? Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 15:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Done. Happy summer holidays! --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 13:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:LoM Sfn[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:LoM Sfn has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 05:44, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Stop breaking things please[edit]

As a user of the secure server, I ask you to stop breaking diff hyperlinks that are correctly fixed so that they do not take me and others like me to an insecure place. You are over-policing the idea of talk page comments being sacrosanct to an absurd and quite wrong degree. Wikignomes fix diff and oldid links, external links that should have been internal links, and absolute hyperlinks that should be relative and protocol-preserving hyperlinks, all of the time. Such things are not sacrosanct, and do not change meaning one whit. This is a wiki, and refactoring talk pages to fix markup and hyperlinks is the norm on wikis and has been all of these years. Uncle G (talk) 09:44, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Duly noted. I was tempted to remove the bolding from the above, lest it look like shouting, but then I'm not going to be hypocritical. --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 16:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Your signature[edit]

Hi, Eisfbnore. I noticed that the Japanese characters in your signature "下さいて話し" doesn't make sense. Are you intended to use "話して下さい" (Please talk)? User:The Blade of the Northern Lights's signature is "The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい)". Cheers. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 12:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Gee whiz, is my Japanese that rusty? :S Thanks for the tip, but I'm hesitant to plagiarise Blade's sig. Do you have any alternatives that could express my garrulity in Japanese? :P --Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 11:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't have any good alternative idea. I think "話して下さい" is a good candidate and a honorific version "お話し下さい" can also be used. The default signature of Japanese Wikipedia is "ユーザー(会話)" in Japanese Wikipedia. So, "Eisfbnore (会話)"is one of the basic alternatives.[4] If you are not willing to use the same word as Blade's signature, I would recommend to use "お話し下さい". ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks much. --Eisfbnore (会話) 10:57, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


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Translation of 2 articles.[edit]

Could you help me to translate articles in Norwegian , please ?

I need somebody because I speak just a little Norwegian.

Articles to translate :

  • Austrian Bridge Federation (Osterrikes Bridgesportforbund) , president : Doris Fischer.
  • Paul Stern , osterrikisk bridgespillere og forst president Osterrikes Bridgesportforbund. (talk) 08:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

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Peter Dawson (politician)[edit]

I believe you offered a GA review of this article a few years back - just FYI that I've nommed it once again, if you would like to take it up. I have my main sources checked out from the library currently as well. – Connormah (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Precious again[edit]

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language maven
Thank you for your attention to grammar and style in quality articles such as Spanish conquest of Guatemala, George Solti, 1740 Batavia massacre, and for teaching other editors who lack your skills in several languages including Japanese, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 234th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Selskabet for Oslo Byes Vel[edit]

Hei, mitt navn er Astrid, jeg jobber for Oslo Byes Vel. Jeg ser at du har opprettet en side på Facebook som heter Selskabet for Oslo Byes Vel og er tilknyttet Wikipedia, din artikkel. VI setter pris på at det ligger informasjon om Oslo Byes Vel på Wikipedia og vi ønsker også å være på Facebook, men vi har opprettet en ny egen side som er aktiv og som er nyttig for oss og våre medlemmer. Det faktum at din side også ligger der er forvirrende og gjør at de som ønsker å finne organisasjonens faktiske side blir forvillet.

Kan du være så snill å fjerne siden du har opprettet slik at det ligger kun èn side for Oslo Byes Vel? Det hadde vi satt uendelig stor pris på.

Du kan kontakte meg på

Mvh Astrid Oslo Byes Vel (talk) 07:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Language-population update project[edit]

Hi. The 18th edition of Ethnologue just came out, and if we divide up our language articles among us, it won't take long to update them. I would appreciate it if you could help out, even if it's just a few articles (5,000 articles is a lot for just me), but I won't be insulted if you delete this request.

A largely complete list of articles to be updated is at Category:Language articles citing Ethnologue 17. The priority articles are in Category:Language articles with old Ethnologue 17 speaker data. These are the 10% that have population figures at least 25 years old.

Probably 90% of the time, Ethnologue has not changed their figures between the 17th and 18th editions, so all we need to do is change "e17" to "e18" in the reference (ref) field of the language info box. That will change the citation for the artcle to the current edition. Please put the data in the proper fields, or the info box will flag it as needing editorial review. The other relevant fields are "speakers" (the number of native speakers in all countries), "date" (the date of the reference or census that Ethnologue uses, not the date of Ethnologue!), and sometimes "speakers2". Our convention has been to enter e.g. "1990 census" when a census is used, as other data can be much older than the publication date. Sometimes a citation elsewhere in the article depends on the e17 entry, in which case you will need to change "name=e17" to "name=e18" in the reference tag (assuming the 18th edition still supports the cited claim).

Remember, we want the *total* number of native speakers, which is often not the first figure given by Ethnologue. Sometimes the data is too incompatible to add together (e.g. a figure from the 1950s for one country, and a figure from 2006 for another), in which case it should be presented that way. That's one use for the "speakers2" field. If you're not sure, just ask, or skip that article.

Data should not be displayed with more than two, or at most three, significant figures. Sometimes it should be rounded off to just one significant figure, e.g. when some of the component data used by Ethnologue has been approximated with one figure (200,000, 3 million, etc.) and the other data has greater precision. For example, a figure of 200,000 for one country and 4,230 for another is really just 200,000 in total, as the 4,230 is within the margin of rounding off in the 200,000. If you want to retain the spurious precision of the number in Ethnologue, you might want to use the {{sigfig}} template. (First parameter in this template is for the data, second is for the number of figures to round it off to.)

Dates will often need to be a range of all the country data in the Ethnologue article. When entering the date range, I often ignore dates from countries that have only a few percent of the population, as often 10% or so of the population isn't even separately listed by Ethnologue and so is undated anyway.

If Ethnologue does not provide a date for the bulk of the population, just enter "no date" in the date field. But if the population figure is undated, and hasn't changed between the 17th & 18th editions of Ethnologue, please leave the ref field set to "e17", and maybe add a comment to keep it so that other editors don't change it. In cases like this, the edition of Ethnologue that the data first appeared in may be our only indication of how old it is. We still cite the 14th edition in a couple dozen articles, so our readers can see that the data is getting old.

The articles in the categories linked above are over 90% of the job. There are probably also articles that do not currently cite Ethnologue, but which we might want to update with the 18th edition. I'll need to generate another category to capture those, probably after most of the Ethnologue 17 citations are taken care of.

Jump in at the WP:LANG talk page if you have any comments or concerns. Thanks for any help you can give!

kwami (talk) 02:44, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Geschichte listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Geschichte. Since you had some involvement with the Geschichte redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 18:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)