User talk:Enaidmawr/Archive 1

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External links[edit]

Hi I notice that you have provided a few external links to pages. Could you bear in mind that Wiki is not a directory and that external links are intended to add something to the article in question. Maybe take a look at WP:EL & WP:SPAM to clarify things. Enjoy editing & regards --Nigel (Talk) 06:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

SORRY - should have looked more carefully - you "moved" the myspace ones which made me think you had placed them - fingers before brain! Kind of PS but feel free to remove such if you come accross them. apologies & regards --Nigel (Talk) 06:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Excellent to hear from you (born & bred in the West Country so an honourary celt!). Enjoy editing, feel free to throw out links that are not relevant to the page - content is always better than links, contact me or WP:WPSPAM if you want a 2nd opinion. All the best --Nigel (Talk) 20:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


Hiya there, a welcome to Wikipedia. Ah, you've seen the "lost lands" stuff, have you? There's a bit of history here. It keeps on popping up in a variety of articles, and the only sources ever proposed are random websites (often mirrors of other Wikipedia articles) or the Bernard Cornwell novels, with a lot of "it could have happened" or "it makes sense" commentary. See also: Talk:Wales#Lloegr_.3D_.27Lost_lands.27.3F, Talk:Celtic_nations#Lloegr, and far too many other pages. I suspect Lloegr is simply one of those terms where, unless someone makes an unexpected find, we shall just never be sure. I confess that I remove it wherever I see it, because I spent an afternoon in the library looking the claimed references up, only to find they didn't say "lost lands" at all, and to see people blithely putting things back in with no evidence or citing the same thing again is a bit irksome.

Thanks for the suggestion of Trioedd Ynys Prydain: this is not the first time that someone has mentioned it to me. And one day, someone will return it to the library and I shall have a look at it.

No problem on the Saint Cybi references, btw: I am forever forgetting to put that tag in myself, so this time I knew what to do :)

Telsa (talk) 09:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

They returned the shiny new third edition at the weekend (it has been out on loan for about five months, grr), and I got to it at last! Wow, what an amazing book (and I think I can see where some of your Buwch Frech material is going to come from now, too :)). I wish I could justify getting a copy. Thanks again for the pointer. Telsa (talk) 15:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Henry Lewis[edit]

Morning, thanks for your note. Not trying to be unhelpful but there is a school of thought that lists of names which have no links shouldn't be included as there is no evidence of notability. Where the link is clearly to a different individual and there is nothing to back up the entry then should it even be there?

Anyway, I can see that you have done a lot of work on the page and I'm not attempting to sabotage it. The most constructive way forward is to create a Wikipedia entry for the indivudals that you have listed so that notability can be confirmed. If you're happy for me to do it I can create some stubs for the individuals you have listed when I have time.

Nigel45 10:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I suppose the issue re red links is that if someone who is not expert in a particular field is looking at lists where there is no back up entry he/she can't determine whether or not the entry is valid and rely upon that information. If you look at the general list of Welsh people you will regularly see rogue entries, some of which are obvious vandalism, some of which are less easy to detect. If there is a list of, for example, Estonian kings, a link to the source demonstrating accuracy would cover the point even if there wasn't an article for each entry on the list. So, I suppose it's not so much notability that's the issue but accuracy of the entry, and I understand your point re cartoon characters.

Regards Nigel45 12:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


Sorry, I reverted your edits because you bolded all the titles in every section. Also, using the more common name for works is preferable here, not the native title, is preferable (though you're right, they are 100% valid). Finally, you left the link in the English title and just moved it over, instead of piping a link from the Welsh name. But anyway I worked them both in now, so please make sure I didn't miss anything. Cheers, Great Soul.--Cúchullain t/c 00:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I understand completely. I shouldn't have just reverted you without more of an explanation. Anyway, the original titles were desperately needed, so thanks for doing it. --Cúchullain t/c 22:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Welsh Poetry list[edit]

Bore da,

Where I can I'll add a few stubs or detail to some of the red links.

Other items I was thinking of were:

  • a page for Welsh language poets 1600 - present day
  • to embellish the Anglo-Welsh poetry page to inlcude what English language poets I know.

Do you a have any particular preference to the spelling of Dafydd ap Edmwnd? I'd always known it spelt as Edmund (being an English educated trog), but I can put in a redirect to Edmwnd if you prefer.

If you want it for the cy.wikipedia, I've got a copy of Dafydd ap Gwilym's "The Rattle Bag" in Welsh which I could upload into you talk space - I can't read the Welsh well enough to follow the links and create a new page.


Janus 00:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A mad idea[edit]

I've had a mad idea for the welsh poets page.

If you look at the page on the Eyptian eighteenth dynasty there's a graphic showing the timeline of the pharoahs.

I sort of thought that under each section we could do something similar for the major poets in each era (e.g. Dafydd ap Gwilym, Rhys Goch Eryri, Iolo Goch, Lewys Glyn Cothi, Siôn Cent, Dafydd ab Edmwnd) and include one or two major historical events, e.g. the deaths of the Llewellyn's, death of Glyndŵr, invasion/annexatoin by Edward I & Henry VIII) which are refelected in a number of the poet's work.

It may help to put some of the poets and their work in a historical context - as long as we don't overdo it and try to include everyone.

Any thoughts?

Janus 18:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Geraint the Blue Bard[edit]

I'd added Geraint the Blue Bard, and then read the headline text which says that the following is a list of poets work is extant. Geraint's isn't. Do we want to keep him in, or do we want to add another section of poets with no surviving work but are suitabley notable - this would allow us to list the poets like Cian, Blwchfardd Culfardd and Afan Ferddig that you already mention. Or we could move the link to Geraint up with the others.

Also, as Geofrrey of Monmouth also wrote in Welsh should he be included in our list as well (provided that we can add a small section to his existing page on his welsh writings).

Any thoughts?

Janus 19:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

My views on Carnedd Ll?welyn[edit]

Su'mae. Please read my comments more carefully in future before assuming I'm for or against something. I am not "generally against" the article title in question being Carnedd Llywelyn. I am for the article title representing the most widely used form in English—whichever this may be. I am against basing the choice on etymology or the preferred form in Welsh or the original form when the mountain was first named in print. These criteria are irrelevant to this question. garik 19:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Carnedd Llywelyn[edit]

Anwyl Enaidmawr. Could you possibly take a look at the latest deletions by ras52, I put in other citations and references yesterday and they have been unilaterally deleted by the above user, I have not reverted the deletions as its probably best to get some idea if there is any support for citing the RGS and other such bodies, and other books, i.e. "Gerald of Wales" in 1198. It took quite a while trawling through the libraries to locate them, but they got deleted in justa few minutes. Admitedly they are not perfect, but I didn't deserve that treatment. Diolch yn fawr. (Gowron 08:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC))

Your message[edit]

I checked, and it's obviously an account used for vandalism; I've blocked it indefinitely. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 09:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Brenin llwyd[edit]

Helo Enaidmawr a diolch am y neges. This Brenin llwyd stuff looks like complete rwtch to me; I'm glad to find you agree, and grateful to you for reminding me of it. More on the Talk page. Flapdragon 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

(Deletion Archives: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brenin Llwyd) Enaidmawr 21:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

More rwts?[edit]

Diolch am roi wybod imi am Gorboth — mi wna i fwrw golwg — a diolch hefyd am beidio roi'r gorau i'r hen Wikipedia ar ôl yr holl helynt hefo'r "Brenin Llwyd" 'na. Flapdragon 02:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a clear hoax to me. I'm going to list it at AfD rather than prodding it on the off chance someone turns something up. Thanks for pointing this out.--Cúchullain t/c 19:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion archives: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gorboth (another one bites the dust... ) Enaidmawr 13:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Llanfair PG[edit]

The village was originally known as Llanfair Pwllgwyngyll "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel", and there was a nearby hamlet called Llantysilio Gogogoch "the church of St Tysilio of the red cave". The names were linked by an in-between feature, the chwyrn drobwll, or rapid whirlpool.

Ever heard of this? Flapdragon 10:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm still intrigued by the story of JMJ's anoynymous tailor and feel the Adrian Room explanation (clearly second- or third-hand) doesn't quite ring true somehow. I wonder where a truly authoritative version can be found. Lost in the mists of time along with that Snowdonian Yeti thing perhaps... Flapdragon 11:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me for butting in, but I saw this comment and thought I'd mention that I've got a book, which I think is "Land of the Long, Long Name (North West Wales)" ISBN 978-0952526711 which gives a name for the tailor backed up by a family history and a census record, apparently tracked down by some journalists in the 1990s. Unfortunately, I'm in London and the book's in Anglesey! I'll try and remember to bring it back next weekend and then I'll add what I can from it. Bencherlite 11:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Champiwn. Sounds like just the job. Flapdragon 13:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


A diolch am eich neges hefyd. I hadn't realised that you had commented on the article earlier. Fair point about the population figures (I did laugh when I saw that the GA reviewer had added the article to "WikiProject Cities"!) I only added the Llangoed ward figures from the census because I couldn't find anything else at a lower level. Any bright ideas for a better source on population levels gratefully received, or some source that mentions the scattered population in the area. I'm still not sure myself how Penmon, Llangoed etc all relate to each other - if I had realised when I was there in April that I'd be spending so much time on the article, I'd have looked more carefully! Now all I need to do is find an excuse to get over to that corner of Anglesey without being suspected of being on a wiki-trip...

I'll have another look at the photo and work out how / where to add it. Did you upload it to cy-wiki under a free licence? (I think the image page says that you did, but I don't want to guess about copyright terminlogy in translation!) If so, shall I upload it to Commons? Diolch unwais eto. Bencherlite 19:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

So I was only six hundred years out! Well spotted. Bencherlite 23:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Persistent vandalism by User[edit]

I'm afraid I'm not an administrator, so all I can do is issue warnings and/or report the offender at WP:AIV. NewEnglandYankee 18:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Good job[edit]

Swinerd zotted as "apparent hoax"; good eyes. DS 12:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Cwmwd List[edit]

I have reorganised the list of cymydau, as discussed in my soliloquy on the Cwmwd talk page. The essence of this mod is to give precedence to "modern" names, while retaining the forms in the Red Book list. I have also fixed a number of errors. Where cantrefi or cymydau were essentially identical in area to the hundred, and where a hundred article exists, I have piped the link to that. I have incorporated most of your latest additions; some I have over-ridden, because I think my forms reflect the most common modern versions: Geneu'r Glyn, Elfed, but I'm open to persuasion. Please take a look at this draft and let me know what you think. . . .LinguisticDemographer 14:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi. Apparently the vandalism is coming from Coleg Menai. I've done a "soft block" (anon users only) for six months. Maybe they'll have forgotten about us by then. Deb 11:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I am not a moderator unfortunatly. If the vandal persists you can report him in WP:AIAV. Thanks DoyleyTalk 00:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Counties of Wales[edit]


I came across some discourse between yourself and User:Owain. I'm a little alarmed by Owain's (continued) contributions to assert that the historic counties still exist with the former boundaries, which is in breach of the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places).

He's a well known affliate and promoter of the Association of British Counties (that's no secret). He should no better than to be categorising articles according to former counties. It's a very old debate (about 3 years!) in which his ideas have continued to be been rejected by the editting community.

I just wanted to share the link to that convention as you may not have been aware of it. -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:20, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for the reply. Indeed I share your sentiments, and I'm most displeased that this user is continuing to break policy. The naming conventions are quite clear (quote):
  • We do not take the minority view that the historic counties still exist with the former boundaries.
  • Articles about counties should not be split up and should not be disambiguation pages. They should treat the counties as one entity which has changed its boundaries with time.
  • The Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition calls Cromarty (Cromartyshire) a 'former county'.
Owain is well aware of of the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places), as I know from experience working against him on a number of occations. He breaches pretty much every part of them, and I know when he's challenged, certainly new accounts and familliar IP addresses pop up.
Furthermore, his standpoint isn't even popular; ake a look at Talk:Mossley or Template_talk:Infobox_UK_place/Archive_1#Straw_polls. It goes against all official and contemporary source material on geographic demarcation - from HM Land Registry, the Boundary Commission for England (I'm not sure of the Welsh equivalent - please forgive me), Office For National Statistics, and a vast catelogue of material in the printed published realm.
He seems to be circumventing policy, and his lack of edit summaries and reliable source material are not helping (see here, here). Also if you take alook at this page it reveals some interesting facts, suggesting he's closely involved with the Association of British Counties - a political pressure group whom their material is not permitted as reliable per WP:RS (not to mention there website includes falsifications and misquotations).
I've asked Owain why he is persuing this approach and why he failed to mention this policy to you. I'm not happy about any of this at all and find it hard to assume good faith. I understood that he knew this position of "traditional boundaries" is not backed up by impartial scholarly research, and is (most importantly) unhelpful to readers and the development of English and Welsh geography-class articles.
To clarify on his categorisations of people, it is permissable to say that somebody pre-74 was born in "X in Former-shire, Wales", but it not appropriate for people born post 74. It is also not appropriate to be categorising people and structures according to the former boundaries. It's unacceptable.
What I propose is to allow Owain to respond. It is for him to secure consensus to change the policy, not for us. If he cannot justify his edits citing, not personal opinion, but policy and source material(which I doubt he can) then we should be removing this tier of demarcation without haste. Keep me in the loop with this, please, and I'll do the same for you. I'm most angry that he didn't share the policy with you; I find that really deceptive on his part. Hopefully we can work together to improve some of these Welsh articles be removing this tier of nonsense. Thanks for challenging it though last month, otherwise I wouldn't have found you! -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello again, and thanks for the reply.
I have challenged User:Owain, who has not provided any satisfactory rationale as to why he is breaking policy and consensus. It's clear he's not going to change his "cultural standpoint" on this - ever (why? I have no idea when the whole notion of the continuation of former counties has been compared to the flat earth movement). However, he should not be using Wikipedia to promote his political agenda. I've put to him that this may be a conflict of interest on his part. Which I believe it is.
Certainly a problem has been the lack of active Welsh users (or users interested in the geography of Wales); this appears to have allowed this type of nonsense to flourish on Welsh articles, where Owain appears to focus his edits, which is a shame.
The diffs you have provided are most alarming. I would revert this on sight. We have WP:PLACE that is a policy on this. Certainly if he chooses to engage in an edit war, which we should assume good faith that he won't, we can ask for references, or simply raise this at WP:UKGEO talk page and get the community to act swiftly.
You raise a valid point on how to go about the categorisation of people and places. The example which comes to mind is Category:People from Oldham. If you take a look at how that is categorised and sub-categorised it should outline a proper, neutral, encyclopedic approach to this. Does that help? Keep me in the loop, -- Jza84 · (talk) 02:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Welsh history and people by county categories[edit]

Hi Enaidmawr. I have noticed that you have been tidying up some categories within the above areas in relation to sub-Roman characters. I assume this is along the lines of the above old/new Welsh county boundary comments. However, I am a worried that, for example, by removing Category:Monarchs of Brycheiniog from the Category:People from Brecknockshire and Category:History of Brecknockshire, the monarchs category is now not linked at all to its specific location and searchers using the category feature will not be able to it.

I assume you are working on a time period basis: Sub-Roman monarchs do not belong in 'people from county' categories because the counties did not exist then. However, the equivalent English categories work on a place basis. For example, people from Abingdon go in a category which is a sub-category of both Category:People from Berkshire (before 1974) , because prior to 1974 Abingdon was in Berkshire, and Category:People from Oxfordshire, because it is now in Oxfordshire. Before the categories were this specific the person would be placed in both Berkshire and Oxfordshire categories. Basically, the category the person goes in relates to the place they are from, not the time in which they lived. Monarchs of Brycheiniog might be considered to be from Talgarth, therefore placing them in Category:People from Brecknockshire is OK, because Talgarth was once in Brecknockshire. I cannot find any discussion on this for Wales. The Welsh categories have not yet been tidied to the English level and I feel it best to be all inclusive until consensus decides whether to follow the English example or not. A qualifier on the category pages might be in order.

The history by county categories frequently include items, often archaeological, from within the area covered by a county even though they date from before (or less frequently after) the county existed. I believe this is generally accepted as OK because it is the history of the area no matter what its county name in whatever period. The counties are just a convenient and recognisable way of splitting them up.

Comments please. Walgamanus (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Ieuan ab Owain Glyndwr[edit]

Please see the discussion on this page. I have named my sources. I will happily share them with you James Frankcom 14:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You may be interested to know that the original references from Bartrum relating to Ieuan ab Owain have now been put on the page although these references to the original 17th Century work by Robert Vaughan of Hengwrt and Griffith Hughes are now being deleted by User:Abtract. I would really appreciate some back up because I believe any reasonable wiki editor would agree that the material is not my "original research" nor is it even the original research of Bartrum. The source (Bartrum) is in English and available for inspection. Bartrums sources have also been independently translated. Please see the discussion comments on the page - cofion gorau, James Frankcom (talk) 15:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Castles in Radnorshire[edit]

Hi, I notice you've emptied Category:Castles in Radnorshire and prepared it for deletion. It was a subcat of Category:Castles in Wales along with other historic counties, and also of Category:Radnorshire. The existing cat structure follows the list at List of castles in Wales by historic county. Do you have a plan for reorganising it?Bards (talk) 13:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. That all sounds very reasonable! If I fancy attacking the categories to help organise them, I'll make sure it's ok with you first. Bards (talk) 00:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

People from Wales categories[edit]

May I ask why you are moving people who were born in historic counties of Wales out of those categories and into the modern counties? Somebody who was born before the 1970s was not born in Gwynedd, Powys etc, but in the historic county. Anything else is revisionism, which is not acceptable. This has already been established in the English county categories. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, and thanks for the contact. If I interpret Necrothesp's inference correctly, I believe he asserts the truth; that is to say, we categorise people according to the county (or indeed province/region/country or any other territory of land) as it was at the time of the event. Thus, Fred Dibnah was born in Bolton, Lancashire, but died in Bolton, Greater Manchester. Simillarly, Mel C was born in Whiston, Lancashire; though she was born in 1974, it was before the reforms took place on April 1. There is a convention/consensus about this, not for counties of Britain as such, but for places and regions in general, but I can't remember where exactly. It does make sense to avoid anachronism however - best not to say Jesus was born in the City of Bethlehem, within the Bethlehem Governorate of Israel!
I would say that from 1889 to 1974, it is not the Historic counties of Wales that we use for births, deaths and marriages as locations, but the Administrative counties of Wales. I believe that's what Necrothesp was asserting though.
If you take a look at Category:People from Bolton, and how that category itself is categorised and structured, it may explain how best to take Wales forwards. Does that help? -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Good to see you about still! With help from User:MRSC (an incredible editor in this field and elsewhere I have to say), I believe this issue will be resolved nicely! I hope all is well, -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Hope all is well with you too. I've left a few more details on UKGeog page as well; more details tomorrow maybe, if I have time. Enaidmawr (talk) 01:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Thought you might want to look at the debate on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of British Traditional Counties too. -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Just added my comment. Enaidmawr (talk) 00:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Jews, Wales[edit]

Hi, noticed your good edits and comments at the Talk page. I put together that article very quickly with the barest of google searches and some light digging through the "look inside!" feature at Amazon. Your corrections are appropriate; I was overstating the "evidence," and to be perfectly frank, don't have much background in the local history (England and Wales are different? :0 ) So, thanks for your judicious edits. Keep it up! Kaisershatner (talk) 14:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note; I hope it was clear I was joking and that I am at least aware that England and Wales are not the same - everyone knows that Wales is where Braveheart comes from! (joke). Best, Kaisershatner (talk) 19:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


Hi, just wondered if you could tell me what the situation is with your page on this museum, which I just came across? It seems a perfectly decent article and it seems a pity that the material has not been placed on the relevant page National Roman Legionary Museum, which is simply a stub. Is it a good idea to be placing your user page extension in all those categories as well? Regards, Enaidmawr (talk) 02:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message - I hope this finds you well! From my point of view, still "work in progress" - I was planning to slowly complete the Welsh museums set refered to on the navigation tab. I am happy to publish it now (probably as a stub article) if you think its good enough. Best Regards, - Trident13 (talk) 11:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
By all means go ahead: it's miles better than the couple of sentences at National Roman Legionary Museum at present! You can always add to it as you go along. Good work! Best regards, Enaidmawr (talk) 01:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Welsh counties[edit]

Thanks for the note. This is interesting stuff. It strikes me as completely stupid to keep doing this every two months or so, hoping people won't notice. Not only that, the system just doesn't work unless it is consistent with the rest of the UK - which it isn't!

I'll monitor the situation, but could I advise you leave a simillar note (nothing personal mind!) at WT:UKGEO?? - I believe that project members would be most interested in this. Once the community is involved I think it's about time this goes to formal mediation on grounds of WP:COI. It's so bloody teadious! Thanks (or rather ddiolch 'ch!) for the contact. -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Baner Cymru[edit]

That's shocking. I'm sorry I didn't notice, but I will block him immediately if it hasn't already been done. It's harassment of other users. If he ever wants to return, he'll have to find himself a new IP address. Deb (talk) 12:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Llyn y Fan Fach[edit]

Many thanks for your help. — Alan 22:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I noticed that the Welsh article had the word "hepu" which I couldn't find a translation for (using this lexicon). I guessed it was a typo for "helpu" but didn't want to correct the Welsh article in case I'm wrong. — Alan 22:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

neges i ti[edit]

Mae gennyf neges i ti, ond dwi wedi ychydig ei chuddio achos ei bod hi'n eitha breifat. Edrycha rhwng cyfraniadau defnyddiwr hwn os gweli di'n dda. Diolch yn fawr. Mh96 (talk) 17:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S. rhaid iti glicio sawl gwaith yn anffodus, ond dwi ddim wedi gwneud cysylltiad syth at y 'dalen cyfraniadau, er mwyn iddi hi bod yn fwy anodd i ddefnyddwyr eraill (di-Gymraeg) ei ffeindio. Mh96 (talk) 17:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
P.P.S. Dwn i ddim os wyt ti wedi ei darllen, ond ymddiheuriad ydy'r neges. Mae'n ddrwg iawn gen i am be' wnes i atat, ac mae eisiau dweud honno. Ond rhaid i'r neges lawn fod yn y Saesneg achos nad ydy fy Nghymraeg yn ddigon da, a fues i ddim am ei rhoi yma yn y Saesneg lle gallai pawb ei darllen. Ond rwy'n ysgrifennu'r neges ychwanegol hon rwan er mwn sicrhau, os fyddat ti ddim yn darllen y neges Saesneg, y byddat ti'n cael o leiaf rhyw fath o ymddiheuriad. Hwyl, Mh96 (talk) 05:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Llyn y Fan Fach again[edit]

Hi, unfortunately the image got deleted from commons. It could be worth uploading it here, but maybe more info is needed on what the book was, so as to establish that it's really out of copyright. Thanks. — Alan 09:17, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Cardiganshire / Ceredigion[edit]

Is there any merit in your opinion to merging these? MRSCTalk 15:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Gruffydd ap Cynan[edit]

Hello Enaidmawr! You helped me transfer an image from Welsh wici to here, and I was wondering if you could do the same for an image from the Welsh wiki for Gruffydd ap Cynan. The image is of Gruffydd ap Cynan while in prision and I wish to use that on his page and on the Kingdom of Gwynedd page. I can see that the publication is 1900, so know it is past any copyright issues and within the public free use. But can you also tell me who published it and what the caption may say in Welsh? Thanks! Drachenfyre (talk) 19:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the info, and the image is successfully added to the Gruffydd ap Cynan and Kingdom of Gwynedd pages. I am rewriting the Gwynedd page, and to be honest could use additional illustrations and maps... espically of the cantrefs and commotes of Gwynedd. Do you know of a source for this? Or any additional images I may use that would work for that page?♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 01:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Cultural relationship between the Welsh and the English[edit]

Thanks for your helpful edits on an article which I felt was necessary but was poorly qualified to write. However, writing it has greatly improved my limited knowledge of Welsh history! If you and others can help develop the historic and other background, with further examples (from either side), I would greatly appreciate it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


For your edits on Alan Wilson, good work.Doug Weller (talk) 21:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. So much hokum there I simply couldn't leave it stand as it was. Still needs a major overhaul. Are we sure he should be classed as a "Welsh historian"? Enaidmawr (talk) 21:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Requests for Mediation[edit]

Hello Enaidmawr!!! Thank you again for the Gruffydd ap Cynan image! But now I need your voice!

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Greetings Wales community! We need your Voice! We need mediation and impute from the wider community who regularily contribute to articals of Wales interest. At issue is the use of a distinctive border around the country info box, as well title bar. The issue seems to have become a crusade against Wales by certin editors, who have almost never contributed to and practically never visit (by their own admission) the Wales page. I do not tust the motives of the editor, whome seems to be stalking my edits and reverting them purposefully. This editor even dismisses the colors of Wales red and green saying that Wales does not have any official colors! (quote: "I imagine that this use of "national colours" (of which Wales has none by custom or tradition)...", Unfortunatly, I must deal with these cyber bullying tactics if I am to contribute here. However, I implore the Wales commmunity to weigh in on the topic of allowing info box borders and title headers. Please submit views on Template talk:Infobox Country and talk:Wales. If the wider Wales community decides not to support a border and title header color in the colors of Wales then I will withdrawal from this position. However, I and other editors do feel it makes the Wales page far more distinctive. Sincerly, David Llewellyn♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 02:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Cadair Idris[edit]

I created some articles from a redlinks at List of United Kingdom locations: Ca-Cap, which I have since discovered to be unreliable as it also contains the names of mountains and rivers. I've since tried to fix as many as I could. It's likely that Cadair was referring to Cadair Idris, so I've redirected the article. From a Google search, it seems there is a place called Cae Clyd. Epbr123 (talk) 22:46, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Anglesey stubs[edit]

I suspect Alaw, Anglesey is just a mistake for Llyn Alaw, as it's not one of the IoACC wards and there's nothing on Streetmap for a village of that name. BencherliteTalk 00:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess it could be redirected rather than deleted. These things are coming up all over the place though. Ah well, I'll leave them for now. Rather late in the day! Diolch eto, Enaidmawr (talk) 00:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Redirected. Nos da. BencherliteTalk 00:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Welsh Dialling Codes[edit]

Thanks for informing me. Seems a pointless move?? Welshleprechaun (talk) 22:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is on my watchlist. It's an unnecessary move as there are no other diallig codes in Wales for people to get confused with. It's quite pathetic that he has to have UK stamped everywhere, and although I don't see any point in reverting it - it would have been nice and courteous for it to be discussed on the talk page first though.--Rhyswynne (talk) 11:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I smell a particularly nasty individual from Newport here!! Thanks for reversing the redirect! -- Maelor  09:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Croeso! Enaidmawr (talk) 23:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


Good work on the page. I know one or two people who work for Golwg, so maybe they have a way of checking when it mention (possibly more than once). I've also got back copies of Y Faner Newydd in the house which I'll go through when I have time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhyswynne (talkcontribs) 11:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Llanfihangel y Creuddyn‎[edit]

Hello! Thanks for your help with Llanfihangel y Creuddyn‎. I have recently joined Cylchgrawn Cymdeithas Hanes Teuluoedd Ceredigion in hopes of learning more about the area. Do you have any sources? Kind regards, ∞☼Geaugagrrl(T)/(C) 04:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to be so long getting back to this. I'm afraid I can't help much farther as my only detailed source is Lewis's Topographical Dictionary, which I'm fortunate enough to possess a copy of. I didn't correct all the place names in the article as I wasn't sure what the standard form would be - Lewis's orthography for Welsh names is typical of the period and you should be aware that they include some pretty eccentric anglicisations which won't be found on the map today. There's also a rather expensive 3-vol History of Cardiganshire recently published by University of Wales Press, but I doubt if that will be of much help for an individual parish. Your best bet is the Transactions of the Cardiganshire Antiquarian Society, if you can get access (don't know if there's an index). Hope that helps! Regards, Enaidmawr (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I had sort of figured the spellings were a bit off and thought it might be Anglicization going on. I will look for the Antiquarian Society book. Cheers! ∞☼Geaugagrrl(T)/(C) 06:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


I notice you are removing the category "Medieval poets" from some troubadour articles. That's fine. As the creator of most of the biographies listed at list of troubadours and trobairitz, I can say that most have the categories "Medieval poets", "Occitan poets", and "Troubadours", the first two of which are redundant. I am not going to go around and remove them, but if you like doing that kind of category cleanup, both categories can be removed and only Category:Troubadours need be kept. Srnec (talk) 04:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the note. I wouldn't say I actually like that sort of work, but it needs doing (said the masochist!). The main reason I started was that Category:Medieval Welsh poets was created and when I looked at the medieval poets cat it seemed a bit unfair and irrational that the troubadours, with all due respect to them, should be left hogging the limelight. I'm also surprised there are not more sub-cats. I haven't the time to do so, but what about poets of other languages/nationalities? I guess I'll "knock off" the remaining troubadours in bursts if I've got the time, but don't feel shy if you have the time to spare! Regards, Enaidmawr (talk) 14:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)