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Hi, why have you deleted all what I updated yesterday? You have put inaccurate information back onto the page. Can you change it back please or I will have to report this.

U.S. Dance Article[edit]

Shall we resume it soon? User:Calvin999/sandbox1. Maybe spinning it into it's own article is a good idea.  — ₳aron 09:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

List of artists with the most number ones on the U.S. Dance chart  — ₳aron 19:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Are you there? Lol  — ₳aron 11:16, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

heyyyyy yes I am here, sorry bout that! I like what you did with the article. I haven't been ignoring you, I just have been pulled away from wiki lately.  :-P eo (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Lol cool. Feel free to chime in with edits!  — ₳aron 15:27, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

The positions on Hot Dance Club Songs need changing now do they? So this make Janet third, Mariah and Donna jointed fourth etc.?  — ₳aron 09:05, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey, can you explain to me how the rankings work? Why don't numbers 3 and 6 appear?  — ₳aron 14:48, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Generally, when there is a "tie", the following number is already filled... so if you have two people tied in first place then there is no "second place" because you already have 2 people in first. The next rank would then be third. In fact there is a wiki article about it! Wow! Ranking (see Standard competition ranking). - eo (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah okay. It makes more sense to me to use the other way. So Madonna first, B and R jointed second, Janet third etc. So are we adding 10th place, anyone with 11 or 12?  — ₳aron 14:59, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
If B & R are second then Janet would be 4th. I don't think we need to go deeper into the list because there are already three people tied for 9th, which brings the grand total to more than 10 artists anyway. If one of the 9th placers hits #1 again then s/he would be alone in 9th and the other two would be joint 10th. - eo (talk) 15:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah but B and R have the same, so IMO that makes Janet third, because she does have the third most with 19 after 22 and 43. Lol.  — ₳aron 16:47, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Conceptually I know exactly what you mean but normally that's not how things are ranked. It's kinda non-standard (which, I guess, is why the other method is called "standard competition ranking"). From an encyclopedic standpoint I think we should stick with the standard way, unless there's some huge uproar to change it. - eo (talk) 16:57, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
SO if B and R are second, which makes Janet fourth, doesn't that mean that by Kristine and J Lo being seventh, making Katy ninth, not eighth? Because technically Kristine and J Lo are 7 and 8?  — ₳aron 17:05, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
*derp* you are correct, that was my error. I fixed it on the main HDCS page. - eo (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Haha. I think I need your help for the Donna Summer section on Top 10 artists with the most number ones on the U.S. dance chart. She has multiple songs which charted as one song, which I find a bit confusing, so it looks like she has had about 24 on her singles discography but in fact it's 17 became some of them are combined. Lol. Also anything else you think on the article which could do with improving?  — ₳aron 17:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Sure, I can help with Donna Summer. The dance club chart used to let mutiple songs chart at once at the same position, or even the entire album, which counts as one entry. Also for Summer, some of her #1s happened during the Record World chart era so some statisticians don't count them. We should specify that. - eo (talk) 19:50, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Okay cool. Thanks. Whenever you are free. :)  — ₳aron 08:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

← I've expanded the Madonna, Donna Summer and Kristine W sections, plus some small grammar/punctuation fixes. I also put an "under construction" template at the top of the article. - eo (talk) 17:13, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay cool :)  — ₳aron 17:37, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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Billboard Hot 100 Article: Unique Song Count Reference[edit]

Hello Ericorbit, I happened upon the Billboard Hot 100 page you contribute to regularly and was wondering what the source is for your 'different number-one hits' figure. In your revision between '2015-01-01T16:54:54' and '2015-01-07T20:08:07' this figure changed from 1,040 to 1,041. Beyond manually (programmatically) counting entries in List of Billboard number-one singles how do you happen across this figure? Minor Googling doesn't reveal a straight answer. Help? - Thank you for your time, UnclassicallyTrained (talk) 03:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

PS: I'm asking because I'm putting together a song lyric database that I'll analyze with [R] to learn neat things about American music listenership. People who help me get early access to results in two months (yes - that's a music nerd bribe) — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnclassicallyTrained (talkcontribs) 03:39, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1988[edit]

Hi Ericorbit,

That IP user 96.41.91.255 is back and vandalizing the Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles series, particularly the 1988 one a little while ago, by changing a title on the chart to something else ("Reason to Live" by Kiss), something that user was doing more than two months ago, as identified in the history for the 1988 article. I remember some discussion on the possibility of semi-protecting the articles, and I think it may be time. (May need to see if this user does any more damage first.) MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:54, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Was going thru your talk page archive just now, and I saw this: User_talk:Ericorbit/Archive31#Vandalism_of_Billboard_articles_by_a_single_IP_user_on_November_21_and_November_25.

MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Came across more disruptive edits from that user in other years of the series, 2000 and 2001, falsifying some more data in both year-end charts. (Looked back at that user's recent contributions to find them, as I don't have the entire Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles series in my watchlist.) MPFitz1968 (talk) 03:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

List of artists who reached number one on the U.S. dance chart[edit]

Do you think anything can be done with this? It's largely unsourced. I was thinking a sortable table?  — ₳aron 17:19, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, its no more sourced than List of artists who reached number one in the United States. I can work to find an acceptable format and source(s) for all of it, but I think that if we do one, we should do both articles. - eo (talk) 20:46, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1969 Duplicate 100th Rank[edit]

Hi Ericorbit, After crawling through all the billboard songs I found that year 1969 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1969 ) has two 100 rankings. I tried finding out which of one of the two songs are actually the 100th spot but couldn't from Billboard.com (without paying I guess). I figure you or someone else close by probably has the source and could fix it in a jiffy so I'm simply blowing the whistle here.

Take care, UnclassicallyTrained (talk) 05:21, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hmmmm, interesting. I checked to see who created that article and unfortunately he has not been active since 2014. I do know that in the past Billboard did have songs tied, both in weekly or yearly charts, although I didn't realize it happened as recently as '69. Both billboard.com and billboard.biz have year-end rankings going back to only 2002. I'll have to research around to see what I find. - eo (talk) 13:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

User:Taytay9135 falsifying Elvis Presley numbers[edit]

Hi eo,

Taytay9135 has been changing the List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones article in the "Artist achievements" section [1] [2], falsifying the number of number-one songs Elvis Presley has had, without any explanation in the edit summaries. As Elvis' tally is well-sourced (one of the sources cited in that section, from The Washington Post), I reverted both edits, but as the user has made this change twice in about 12 hours, the user needs to be watched. I've warned the user with a level 2 and then a level 3, also pointing out that Washington Post source in the level 3.

From user's contributions and previous warnings, this appears to be one who wants to highlight Mariah Carey's accomplishments by either falsifying those of others (like Elvis) or introducing unsourced material into her album discography. MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I will be watching. - eo (talk) 12:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
User did it again, [3]. Will revert and issue level 4. MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Upon checking that section more closely in the article [4], I came across a footnote explaining the discrepancy with Elvis Presley's number-one tally, and decided to put up a topic on the talk page. There could be some validity to Taytay9135's edit, but I'm thinking it still goes against consensus, and the source that's in the section to back the tally of 18 number ones for Elvis. Am giving user an opportunity to explain edit as well with that talk page topic. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Adding current number one in chart articles[edit]

What do you think about not including the current number ones in articles of music charts? You tend to make sure they are current and accurate, but I would agree with this edit that their inclusion would qualify as WP:NOTNEWS. Articles on the charts should just discuss the charts and their history in general terms and shouldn't need to be maintained/updated on a weekly basis just to list the most recent number one. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:59, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

To be honest I don't have an opinion either way. I don't mind it being included, however if consensus thinks it's too "news"-y then removing it wouldn't bother me. Is there a discussion about it somewhere? - eo (talk) 11:38, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
No discussion yet, just the edit summaries by the user whose edit I linked you to. I saw that and the reasoning made sense to me, so I thought I'd pass it by you. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:45, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

What the ... ? (a page from the "List of Billboard Hot 100 top 10 singles..." series has been moved into "User talk" space)[edit]

Hi eo,

I have to bring this to your attention! User:Aaron2014 has taken it upon himself to move the List of Billboard Hot 100 top 10 singles in 2015 article into User talk space ... User talk:List of Billboard Hot 100 top 10 singles in 2015. I don't see how that doesn't violate Wikipedia policies, as it's unauthorized and without explanation. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I've moved the article back to where it should be, reverted that user's changes, and warned the user with a single-notice final warning. This type of vandalism is suggesting this whole series should be move protected (I don't see why anyone other than administrators should have the authority to move a page in article namespace anyway). MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

"Uptown Funk"[edit]

User:DavidReyAlvite and I have brought up the issue of the song's title stylization at Talk:Uptown Funk#The "!" in the title of the song is not in the article's heading — request to add it, and your thoughts are welcome there. MPFitz1968 (talk) 08:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

List of Billboard Top 10 Hits 2015 remove protection![edit]

Hi can you please remove the protection on the Billboard Top 10 2015 page? The page isn't being updated quickly enough and access is restricted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.88.9 (talk) 19:15, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Simultaneous albums in the top 200[edit]

Hi, I noticed you reverted my edit to the Billboard Top 200 page. You said that's not the record anymore, but after doing some searching, I haven't found any new records in that category. Can you provide that info, and perhaps re-add the section with the new record-holding artist on top? Thanks, Rockypedia (talk) 14:32, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

So I saw your edit saying that you'd found a source for Led Zeppelin having 9 albums in the Top 200 at the same time. I went through the entire source, but didn't find anything indicating that this actually happened - none of the mentions of Led Zeppelin mentioned that info, and the only mention of the "Top 200" was in reference to a Blondie album. Do you have a page number you could cite for this info? It doesn't seem to exist anywhere online either. I really don't want to edit war over this so I'd rather see you respond here on your talk page, rather than in your edit summaries. Pretty sure we could work this out with some communication. Thanks. Rockypedia (talk) 22:35, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for confusion. It's the actual issue of the magazine mentioned in the item. I dont know the exact page number but scroll to the Billboard 200 of that week and LZ has 9 albums on the chart. As far as a list of artists who had 8 or less, I'm still trying to find some kind of definitive list. - eo (talk) 11:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, found it - pages 95 and 97. I'll add the page numbers to the cite. Also found another source, LA Times in 2003, that mentions all five of the artists that have 7 or more for that record, including Led Zeppelin at 9 total. I think it's a significant record, so maybe rather than burying it in the Additional Milestones section, all five artists could be repped in their own Artist Milestones section. Thoughts? Rockypedia (talk) 21:06, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
That totally works for me. Remove it from that bottom section and stick it in a more prominent place. - eo (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

User:Nero333[edit]

Hi eo,

I've just come across a series of edits from user Nero333 at List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones (6 edits) that clearly falsify chart statistics of songs on the Hot 100. I reverted those edits, and saw that the user already had warnings up to level 3 on his/her talk page, so I gave user a final warning. Nero333 did this once before a few days earlier (2 edits) which were reverted by user Darkwind, who also warned the user at that time. Thought I'd bring this to your attention. MPFitz1968 (talk) 03:51, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

User added the info back in (2 edits), and I reverted again. I have reported Nero333 to AIV for vandalism/disruptive editing, but should they not take action (and I have seen where they say it's not vandalism), I'll leave it up to you. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.... I've blocked him. - eo (talk) 17:00, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Finally (CeCe Peniston song)#Request for comment[edit]

You were one of editors of the article. I invite you to an RFC discussion. --George Ho (talk) 19:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Hot Dance Club Songs[edit]

Hi, how are you? Pitbull is now tied with Enrique Iglesias for the most #1s by a male artist. Why was it deleted? BrunzPOP (talk) 12:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi there. It seems there is a discrepency on his total... Billboard is now saying 13 when really he has 12... kinda. I started a discussion at Talk:Hot Dance Club Songs#Pitbull... please comment! - eo (talk) 12:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hot Dance Club Songs[edit]

Hey, can you sort out the mess Sunboys0111 has made please. I've made two reverts and warned him. He's supplied a source for 14 number ones with a link to a list of Enrique's latin airplay number ones.  — Calvin999 20:20, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Hot Dance Club Songs 2[edit]

Should Hot Dance Club Songs be renamed to it's new name of Dance/Club Songs?  — Calvin999 12:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh good lord, another fucking name change. Well, I just checked billboard.com and billboard.biz and it is indeed "Dance Club Songs". I have a print issue sitting here and it also reads "Dance Club Songs" (no slash in any of them). So I guess yeah, it shoud be moved? - eo (talk) 13:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Moved. Will templates update themselves?  — Calvin999 13:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
No, they will not. I normally do a "what links here" search and move things myself... however there are probably a trillion song articles that have the old link in their 'charts' sections... perhaps we can request a bot to do the bulk of the work. - eo (talk) 17:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Yeah that would be better. 18:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I've made some additions to Dance Club Songs by the way. Feel free to add more.  — Calvin999 08:36, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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