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I own a copy of Beeching and the sentence I keep removing from the Oliver Typewriter page does not correlate with it's citation, and it is false[edit]

Please let that sentence die a peaceful death. It is absolutely false, and not corroborated by its citation. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:468:C80:8108:6561:1594:7BA3:A24A (talk) 21:55, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019[edit]

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Hello Etothepi,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 725 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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"British House iof Commons" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect British House iof Commons. Since you had some involvement with the British House iof Commons redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Surtsicna (talk) 15:56, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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Please explain why you have reverted my recent edit of the above Dutch town

ArbieP (talk) 21:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

November 2019[edit]

WP:UAA reports on users with no edits[edit]

Generally, there is no reason to report usernames with no edits whatsoever. Per WP:UAAI: "Wait until the user edits. Do not report a user that hasn't edited unless they are clearly a vandal. We do not want to welcome productive editors with a report at UAA, nor do we want to waste our time dealing with accounts that may never be used." The exceptions are obvious hate speech or names that attack a living person/Wikipedia editor, those are blockable even without any edits, but other run-of-the-mill violations such as names of organizations or products need not be reported unless and until they at least attempt to edit, and you should be able to clearly explain what the problem is if it is not immediately evident.

For whatever reason, every day dozens, if not hundreds of accounts are created that never make one single edit. It is our responsibility as admins to conscientiously review every report a user makes at UAA, so we have to check for contribs, deleted contribs, and tripping of the edit filter for every one of these reports, only to find out there's nothing there and therefore no problem to be solved. That's time that could be spent doing more productive things, but you basically obligate admins to do it by making such reports. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:27, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Autobiography[edit]

Hello Etothepi, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Autobiography, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Hi Ivanvector, thanks for letting me know. I wasn't sure what criteria to use for that page, but it certainly didn't belong! What should I have used instead? •≈20+π(talk to me!) 18:41, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Deepak Bhakhri[edit]

Hello Etothepi, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Deepak Bhakhri, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:54, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


Per WP:GEOLAND legally recognized places are notable and in this case it is a (former) civil parish so qualifies as notable. In addition the British History Online article contains quite a bit of text on it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Article Deletion[edit]

I noticed you recently deleted my article GO Technologies for advertising. I was not trying to advertise, I just wanted to create a page. If it seemed too promotional, I can try to fix that. This is my first article and I may need help. Sorry for the inconvenience. DukeOfGrammar (talk) 19:17, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could tell me what part of it was promotional so I can remove it and submit the article again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DukeOfGrammar (talkcontribs) 20:19, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for reviewing the article. When I was writing that ValhallaDSP was “legendary” (based on, yes, a reliable source, but still), I felt “you know, if Sean (the primary ValhallaDSP developer) saw this page, he would be either annoyed or embarrassed.”

The article main problem is that it uses a lot of technical jargon which only music producers can really understand, so I will, over the rest of this decade (all one month of it), make the article more accessible and easier to understand.

I will also, if noted by reliable third party publications, add notes about Z-DSP version of Shimmer as well as “Halls of Valhalla” (which is a cartridge for a hardware unit). Samboy (talk) 20:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Request on 20:45:20, 30 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by DML expert[edit]

I need help with how I can improve my article that I submitted, make it longer, change source, add sources etc
Hello, can you please help me with my article, and give me some suggestions to how I can improve it.

DML expert (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

  • My main concern is that your only source for this article is a news story about her. If you can find other stories from reputable sources, that would be a good start. Google is your friend in this! •≈20+π(talk to me!) 20:47, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Barrie Jr. Sharks[edit]

Hello Ethothepi,

You recently reviewed my article on the Barrie Jr. Sharks and you declined it saying that my sources were unreliable, however my sources were providing the statistics that I had put into my article. What exactly am I supposed to do? I don't see how those sources are wrong at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobLewis8 (talkcontribs) 23:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Hi RobLewis8 -- In order to qualify as notable, the team needs to have recieved significant coverage by reliable independant sources. The problem with your sources is that tables of statistics do not constitute significant coverage. They are fine to use for citing statistical information in the article, but we would also like to see (for example) some news articles about the team. •≈20+π(talk to me!) 23:08, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Re: Barrie Jr Sharks[edit]

So basically what you’re telling me is that if I find a random article on the Barrie Sharks, I’ll be approved? RobLewis8 (talk) 02:31, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

  • Probably not just any random article, but if you find some detailed articles in reliable sources, then yes. •≈20+π(talk to me!) 02:32, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Jack Turban[edit]

Not sure if you noticed, but the author of Draft:Jack Turban appears to have a COI. It can be seen from their contribs. I would have tagged the draft with a COI tag, but I am now sure how draftspace handles this. -Crossroads- (talk) 05:54, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Request on 14:43:27, 2 December 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Tyler mack13[edit]

Dear Etothepi,

I was wondering how is Draft:Allan Aziz no credible enough he is a famous musician around the houston area and is on Spotify and Apple Music. It is hard enough to get on Spotify but to get on Apple Music that is a accomplishment by itself. He has songs with famous rappers ad singers so dont understand why it is so hard. Why does it have to be so critically nitpicked he's an accomplished notable figure by himself. Why does it have to be declined why couldnt it be accepted and published on the web. Can a accomplished young man not get the recognition he deserves?

Tyler mack13 (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Request on 12:13:26, 4 December 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Echezuria[edit]

Echezuria (talk) 12:13, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Dear Etothepi, Thank you for reviewing my submission of I am unclear as to why the article is thought of as an advertisement, if you can shed some light on it, I am more than happy to make the changes necessary.

I would like to highlight that I made sure that all the entry were factual and had referent to trusted publications.

If you can tell me which part you would like me to change, I am more than happy to make those changes.

Thank you in advance


@Echezuria: - Please read WP:PEACOCK for a better understanding of the kind of language not to use in articles. There is far too much in the article for me to list it all, but generally speaking if a phrase serves only to express your opinion about something, it should be removed. Thanks for the question! •≈20+π(talk to me!) 16:24, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@Etothepi: - Thank you for your advice. I will of course read the article you pointed me to and make changes, then re-publish for your consideration.

Draft:Gary Reamey help[edit]

Hi Etothepi, I am needing assistance on my Draft:GaryReamey page. I saw your comment when my page was declined again, but am needing help on how to improve it to meet Wikipedia standards. I have made changes since I've had feedback and keep trying to improve, but could use more advice on what specifically is causing a red flag on the page. Would you be able to assist? Thank you for your help.

Soundsoftexas (talk)

Can you please re-review Crossroads of the Elements[edit]

You rejected the article and stated that it's an article on a fictional subject and that is not correct.

It's an article on software from the late 80's and is still very much so in existence today. It is referenced in and can still be accessed on many BBS servers that are still running. These two lines below are servers that still run this software. telnet:// telnet://

Here is a like to the updated draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desean1625 (talkcontribs) 22:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

  • Hi @Desean1625:: to clarify, I declined it because it consisted only of a plot summary. You've fixed that now, but I still can't approve it because you don't cite any sources! Fix that and it should be okay. •≈20+π(talk to me!) 22:26, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

@Etothepi: I added a source that I was able to find in the wayback machine. Other than that the information comes from the game itself. I am unsure how to cite that.