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left comment in comment section. --Protostan (talk) 00:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


Sorry about that. There weren't any sources for the info I removed, hence why I cut it out. (talk) 21:28, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Bowen, Lori

Hey. I'm not seeing the copyright problems, can you explain a little more?--v/r - TP 22:56, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The linked website had a short biography section that appeared to be copypasted into the article above. The biography has been removed apparently since I tagged it. Short biography visible here in a cached version:[1]. Falcon8765 (TALK) 23:47, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Is there any chance that site is a Wikipedia mirror and removed the content as soon as it was tagged for deletion?--v/r - TP 23:48, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't appear to be. The same content is on IMDB too. Falcon8765 (TALK) 23:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Alright, well I deleted it. Rather err on the safe side.--v/r - TP 23:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


cant we all just get along:)— Preceding unsigned comment added by saphasis (talkcontribs)

As soon as you stop vandalizing. Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Moved your message

I moved the message you had posted on my talk page about your Proposed deletion of List of Terrestrial Fibre Optic Cable Projects in Africa to the talk page of the person who created the article, which weren't me. I think you were in the midst of prop'ing the article while I was in the moving it (for proper title capitalization reasons), and thus it ended up on my page. If for some reason you really wanted it on my page rather than on the article creator's page, let me know. --Nat Gertler (talk) 03:23, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for the revert. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Ron Simmons

Ron simmons was born in 1958, Why did you change it to 1962 its wrong. People go on to wikipedia for true facts and this is false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't necessarily believe that is false, however you need a reliable source stating thus. Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:53, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Culturawiki: article about Robert Gulya

Dear Falcon8765, Thank you for your message. I worked on the article about Robert Gulya, added several references for verification and removed weasel words. Could you please check the article again and tell me your opinion? Best regards,Culturawiki (talk) 08:11, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine to me, maybe add a sentence to the lead but that's all I see that I would change. Falcon8765 (TALK) 08:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Dear Falcon8765, Thank you! I added a sentence to the lead. Best regards, Culturawiki (talk) 09:09, 31 July 2011 (UTC)


A note that I have declined your speedy deletion tag for Porcelier; a brand or product line is distinct from a company. I would advise adding a prod tag. Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 19:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

About the Band of Leaders mark for Deletion

Included in the bio is exact reasons as to why the organization is significant and should be noted on Wikipedia. Please revert the mark for deletion and post to wikipedia. There are also listed the required references and external links. Please consider revision. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessbaez (talkcontribs) 21:47, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. An organization whose most notable achievement is the donation of $1200 dollars is not notable as Wikipedia defines it. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:51, 31 July 2011 (UTC)


Hey, Falcon. Thanks for taking care of some minor stuff on my user talk. See ya 'round Tiderolls 23:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Lockport Township High School

While examining the article for protection, I noticed that the athletics section is full of puffery, unsourced claims, and names of minors that really cannot be there without verification. If you have time, you might want to thoroughly scrub that section. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Done. Falcon8765 (TALK) 05:05, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

ravidasi page

greetings! dear brother/sister i might not be very good at operating and editing wiki but my contribution so far has been more than so called editors here.u can check pages like punjab(india),gurdwara among many others where i have added constructive material so please dont just keep on deleting my edits even without reading really is annoying and is common with most editors here ,they just dont even wanna read what some random person like me in their eye would add,they just delete it straight away and i dont get it! why not atleast have a quick read before deleting it straight away! im not unemployed or on a dole here,i've got a life out of which im taking some time to make wiki articles better,so please dont act so harsh ! god bless you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:20, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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Snape edit

As much as the constant vandalism on the Severus Snape page irritates me, I have to say that last one, which you so promptly reverted, was at least very funny. It's a shame we couldn't have kept it!--TEHodson 01:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

=C.A. Gray

I GO TO THIS SCHOOL. STOP MESSING WITH ME!Gnomethevampire (talk) 17:14, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

You need to cite a reliable source. We can't just take your word for it. To see what constitutes a reliable source, see WP:RS. Falcon8765 (TALK) 17:16, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Grendizer Spoilers

Thanks for the correction and heads-up on the rules and policies concerning the subject of Spoilers. Cheers!

Possible COI

Some interactions that you may have been involved in are being discussed at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Blackvisionit. Guy Macon (talk) 23:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Sock editing Planned Parenthood?

Think this one [2] is the activity of a sock for Claudio etc. etc.? Seems to have strong interests in both Eugenics and Planned Parenthood.Mattnad (talk) 11:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

No, the IP doesn't display the same quirks of language. Falcon8765 (TALK) 19:23, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
The disruptive editor has been blocked for a week.Mattnad (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Moustafa Sadek

I've deleted that, but as a hoax not A7. Born in 1997, has a wife and sculpts granite? When I find one like that, I Google in quotes for an interesting bit of the text - and here found Tetsuo Harada. There's quite a few hoaxes attempted this way, just changing bits (but failing to realise that they are leaving glaring inconsistencies - and the typos that are in the original, too). (I've corrected them.) Keep up the good work. Peridon (talk) 14:30, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

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User Page Vandalism

Took care of some vandalism on your user page, you don't tackle the vandals without having the occasional one lash out :) oh well. RandomAct(talk to me) 05:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm quite used to it. 76 times and counting Falcon8765 (TALK) 05:46, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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great contributions to protecting and reverting attacks of vandalism on Wikipedia. Far more patience than I right now. Keep up the fight. RandomAct(talk to me) 05:54, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Oraplayer

Hello Falcon8765. I am just letting you know that I deleted Oraplayer, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 12:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Design the Skyline

Thanks for requesting protection for Design the Skyline, I didn't even know the vandalism on that article (which was just starting) could be eligible to have the page protected. But anyway, I'm here to tell you this: I'm not sure if you're familiar with the band, but they're the case of a high amount of criticism in the same way Rebecca Black was so the article may need to be indefinitely protected once that wears off. It's almost a guarantee that vandalism will shoot through the roof for that page. • GunMetal Angel 02:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

When the protection fades on the 15th, if the vandalism continues it'll be protected for a longer period of time so no worries. I'll keep an eye on it. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:20, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for keeping it watchlisted. Now to get down to business: although their music video may have been absolutely dreadful (which brought all this worldwide attention to the band), I heard their new album and it's actually pretty good, but alas, many still like to stick to hating something for some reason no matter what because that's just how people think. Just like Rebecca Black, she released a single everyone hated and then she releases a pretty alright song and she still gets criticism. It makes no sense, but yeah, I'm just trying to point out that articles like hers and this band will be forever haunted by vandals on here. • GunMetal Angel 07:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes it will probably be vandalized extensively, but articles aren't protected preemptively as far as I know. Falcon8765 (TALK) 09:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC) As an aside, I just sampled some of there stuff on Youtube and can say as a fan of death metal that it was awful. Falcon8765 (TALK) 09:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protecting your user page

Do you think about requesting semi-protection of your user page since it has received a lot of vandalism? WayneSlam 02:55, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm quite used to it by now, so I think I'm okay. Let them spend their vandalism energies as they will. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:57, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Okay. WayneSlam 03:00, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
It just means I'm doing a good job, that's how I take it anyways lol. Falcon8765 (TALK) 03:02, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

RFP: Michele Bachmann

I see you beat me to it. At least I didn't accidentally file a duplicate report, as has happened with me once or twice. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 02:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Gundagai Talk Page

Falcon its been me put the recent entries on the Gundagai talk page but you sent me a message to not delete them. I am trying to resurrect the ones you have deleted as they are all important to proving if it was Ben or William Warby at Gundagai. It was William but many think it was Ben but the newspaper items establish it was William not Ben. This content is important to the colonisation of SE Australia. I live at Gundagai. Can you please put back all the entries I made that you deleted. I am on dial up internet so my ip number changes. Johneen Jones — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:40, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


I can't make a statement on that page. if there's a discussion that happens I'll join in, but I kinda feel like we have to respect the end of the block and pretend that he has no record of misbehavior, until he takes it over the line again. He's doing the same thing on the same topic but I just feel like we gotta give it a little time before complaining at ANI, for the sake of fairness. Metal lunchbox (talk) 05:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Just notifying you in case you did. I think resuming the same behaviour right after the block warrants scrutiny, hence the thread. Falcon8765 (TALK) 05:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


OK, I must be a wikiholic--I had a dream in which your username popped up, but I got the number wrong. How weird is that? We've interacted only a couple of times, I think. Drmies (talk) 16:57, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Howie Mandel

Why did yo delete my update on Howie Mandel, it wasn't vandalism. It was true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wung97 (talkcontribs) 23:46, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

the edits in question were more than a year ago. I reverted your edits because they were unsourced, negative biographical information. You posted on my talk page a year ago asking the same question and I answered it then. Falcon8765 (TALK) 23:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

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Baby's Day Out

Thanks for fixing the Baby's Day Out page that was vandalized 19Jul11. You were amazingly fast. Of course you were, you're a falcon, the worlds fastest animal. (Bigfatloser (talk) 23:12, 19 August 2011 (UTC))

Thanks Falcon8765 (TALK) 23:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


I would not call myself gentle with newbies but I think I would have been a bit kinder to Prateek18071989. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:57, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps, I waited another 20 minutes before prodding it to see if he was actively working on the page, but as he was not I decided a PROD would be appropriate. It says right on the template that they can remove it for any reason, so I figured if they were still wanting to do something with it they would. Perhaps that was a bad assumption to make, that people read the paragraph long templates? I will try to be more patient in the future. Falcon8765 (TALK) 20:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:21, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Adding spam links

Dear Falcon8765, Thank you very much for your feedback on the edit I took. I appreciate your decision. Could you maybe elaborate why you think it is spam? I believe the link is an valuable addition to the article as the link contains information on the topic (latest research) and also is free tool to fight RSI. Looking forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostseeripper (talkcontribs) 10:47, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Not spam per se, I just didn't think it meets Wikipedia's link guidelines. It requires registration, so I thought it inappropriate. Forums and other such things are discouraged as well. I understand that Wikipedia's policies can be a bit enigmatic at times, and I'm sure you were just trying to improve the article. Falcon8765 (TALK) 16:16, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

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Nomination of Davison Associates for deletion

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rm 'close paraphrasing' hat on Padmanabhaswamy Temple

I see you had hatted the Padmanabhaswamy Temple article with {{close paraphrasing}}. Your comment for the following edit was "rm copyright violation, article tagged as who knows how much else is in here." It sounds like you suspect, but don't have evidence, we are dealing with copyvios.

I removed the hatting as it seems you corrected one copyvio and will WP:AGF as far as the source of other parts of the article. I have not had time recently to pay attention to this article. I'd been thinking of simply reverting 100% of the recent edits unless they included citations. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:24, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, I went through a significant portion of the article looking for copyright violations before adding the tag and removed one paragraph or so. The week prior there was an IP editor or two that added some as well that I removed. Falcon8765 (TALK) 14:23, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
How do you look for copyvios? I could see Googling for random strings and then filtering out all the hits that are copies of the Wikipedia article but I suspect there's a more efficient method. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
That's pretty much the gist of it. Select a sentence or part of one, put it into google with quotes and see if anything comes up. If it's a recent addition, the Wiki mirror sites usually haven't picked it up yet so they are easy to spot. Falcon8765 (TALK) 22:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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Did you read the BRD page?

The page says it is a guideline and not a policy. My edits about Carrier's writings most definitely are neutral. Content on his own website, which is what I used as a source, shows beyond a reasonable doubt he likes to promote anti-religion propaganda. He's not a reliable resource. My edits about Hitler and Indo-European culture are quite reliable too. (talk) 21:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

You are not getting it. You have to have a reliable source explicitly stating that it is propaganda. Your own analysis and opinion of the material is not acceptable, as it is original research and non-neutral. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:07, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's not my opinion and is quite neutral. It is a fact that he promotes propaganda. Look up the definition of propaganda and read the content he has written for yourself before making such outrageous claims about what I have written. (talk) 21:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Denial of changes to male genital mutilation/circumcision page

Thanks for your comments of the 4th Sept regarding the above page. I must confess to being extremely surprised by them however. From a quick glance at the female genital mutilation/circumcision page you will note that not only is the header of the page listed as "female genital mutilation" but also that the page refers repeatedly to it as such throughout. A study of the male page on the same subject, however, reveals the exact opposite. Not only does the header of the page not even refer to the subject as also being known by many "male genital mutilation", the use of this term would appear to be prohibited throughout the whole article. This would appear to be an extremely prejudicial, biased and sexist double-standard. There is a overwhelming amount of evidence as to the often extremely harmful nature of male genital mutilation/circumcision; in fact many medical practitioners have openly stated that they see little difference between male and female genital mutilation. To refuse to allow any edits that include this term on the grounds that that it constitutes personal analysis and POV pushing would appear to be non-sensical in the extreme. Similarly, the statement in the first paragraph of the page that "Circumcision reduces the risk of HIV infection in heterosexual populations" would appear to be breathtakingly misleading as there is a welter of medical evidence available that utterly refutes this assertion. As such the refusal to allow well referenced edits that challenge this assertion would, with respect, appear to be a simple matter of censorship.

I would be most obliged to receive your comments as to whether you will now review this position.

Many thanks & kinds regards

Checky71 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Checky71 (talkcontribs) 17:36, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I understand your position and can see how that would seem like a double standard. However, Wikipedia uses the most common name for article titles (WP:COMMONNAME). For example, the article on Bill Clinton is not titled by his legal name William Jefferson Clinton because he is not referred to as such by a vast majority of references. The same case applies here, as the vast majority of scholarly sources refer to the act of "female circumcision" as FGM, and so the title reflects that. The article's name was changed within the last few months after extensive discussion (here if you are interested). Now, on circumcision the converse applies. Because the vast majority of sources refer to it as circumcision and not genital mutilation, that is the title we use. This subject has come up dozens and dozens of times over the years on the talk page of the article and the reasoning is explained in more depth at Talk:Circumcision/Archive_67#Can_we_maybe_drop_the_double_standard_already.3F. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:08, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

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Deletion of Theta Tau Epsilon page

Dear Falcon-

Apparently you have deleted the page I created for my fraternity, Theta Tau Epsilon? All material on the page is owned by my fraternity. The writing is ours and the graphics belong to our fraternity as well -- so there should be no copyright issue. I made a mistake in saying the copy came from Bemidji State College -- which it does -- but we gave it to them for their website. The copyright belongs to us. Please consider putting the page back up again?


Ron Olsen Alumni Theta Tau Epsilon Fraternity

Lanewsguy (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I didn't delete the page outright, but redirected it to the article on the college. I wasn't aware of the copyright issue until now, but you should look into WP:COPYRIGHT for information on how to donate copyrighted materials as copyrighted text isn't allowed due to the way the Creative Commons licensing works. By all means add your fraternity as a section on the article for the college, where it would be more appropriate. The text of your article still exists here. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:30, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand. Why is my fraternity not appropriate for Wikipedia, when any number of other fraternities and sororities are? Why are you willing to discriminate against my fraternity by saying it only deserves a sub-section under another topic? Also, I don't think you understand that there is no copyright issue for any of the material, as it all originated with my fraternity and we are the ones putting up the page. Again, I ask you to reconsider putting our page back up. This is just plain wrong. Ron Olsen Theta Tau Epsilon Fraternity Lanewsguy (talk) 21:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

If you are going to ban our fraternity from Wikipedia, then you should ban all other fraternities as well. Correct? Ron Olsen Theta Tau Epsilon Lanewsguy (talk) 21:38, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from, let me explain it more understandably. I redirected it because from what the article stated your fraternity is not one with multiple chapters and a national base, but one chapter at one college. Thus, it would be more appropriate to have it as a section on the college it is a part of, until such a time that it has significant enough content to warrant a separate article. This is not denigrating your fraternity but is simply complying with our guidelines for the notability of organizations, and having it as a section on the college's article would get more exposure anyways. Secondly, even if you own the copyright for the material in question, there is a process you have to go through for legal reasons that gives Wikipedia permission to use it. The steps for doing so are described at Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials#Granting_us_permission_to_copy_material_already_online. Thirdly, editing articles about which you are closely affiliated is generally discouraged. Finally, I am not an administrator, so you may revert my redirect if you so desire, but I can't promise that another editor won't tag it for deletion instead of a redirect. I hope this clears up the confusion. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Well then, you'll have to take down the Skull & Bones page, won't you? They're a small organization at just one University also. And you'll need to remove every fraternity and sorority without a national affiliation. Right? I think you are just plain wrong on this. I will go back and try and figure out how to redirect the article and "take my chances with another editor."

Ron Olsen Theta Tau Epsilon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanewsguy (talkcontribs) 21:53, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

No, Skull & Bones would not be deleted, as it meets the criteria of notability, which are outlined in the link in my above reply. Specifically, "A company, corporation, organization, school, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject. A single independent source is almost never sufficient for demonstrating the notability of an organization." -- your fraternity doesn't meet that qualification, and thus the redirect. I recommend reading a few of the links on the welcome message on User talk:Lanewsguy if you need help with editing. I wouldn't readd the copyrighted text without following the steps I linked above however, as it will lead to the article being deleted outright. Using your website as a source without directly copying the text would be a better way of going about it. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


Hey Falcon , u proposed deletion of the page Nishu Nursery and Kothari Convent which I created yesterday. And the reason you gave for it is that it is a non notable school. I can assure you that its a very renowned school of that city. Obviously you may not have heard anything about it, but it would be a very useful page for the students studying there. And I would be very soon uploading lot of information about that school including some of its photographs.

If still you have any kinda doubt about that page or the school , please write to me on my talk page.

thank you..!!!

Anurag acj (talk) 14:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


I'm confused; I don't see why being consistent -- putting AD in front of a date -- is a bad idea. The Manual of Style says it can be either in front or behind the date. In the article is was both ways, I made it consistent.

That said, putting "AD" after the date makes no sense; neither does "Xth century AD."

If "Xth century of the Christian Era" is not acceptable, then simply go with "Xth century." — Preceding unsigned comment added by MartinFox (talkcontribs) 02:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I understand your confusion. If that is indeed the case, why not start a discussion on Talk:Roman Britain? That way you can make your case. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Saw what you were talking about and fixed it. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but this isn't really about "Roman Britain," it's about a more fundamental matter: the correct use of "AD." But if folks prefer it as-is, that's fine, I won't waste my time on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MartinFox (talkcontribs) 02:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


There is incorrect information under the page Aten It was tutankhamun during his early reign who changed the religion of ancient eygpt back not Horemheb as he was after Ay and Ay can be depicted with the eypgtian gods. Akhenaten changed it to monotheism then next of kin Tutankhamun changed it to polytheism. Tutankhamun also eradicated the ban on polytheism in egypt altogether. Aten.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Can you provide a reliable source stating that as asked for on your talk page? Falcon8765 (TALK) 07:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

The only sources i can use at the moment is the wiki page on tutankhamun (under domestic policy) and my basic knowledge from doing a ancient history course.— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

I understand. Unfortunately, that isn't sufficient based on Wikipedia's reliable source guidelines. If you are able to provide a source, feel free to readd the material. Falcon8765 (TALK) 07:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC) here are a couple of websites that all have agreeing information in them — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, well feel free to readd it then. Falcon8765 (TALK) 07:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but i can i know were you got the current information from.

Edit War

You should wait for somebody ELSE to revert his edits before you do otherwise your breaking the 3rr rules --ChristianandJericho 07:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I am well aware of the 3RR rules. Removing parent categories and thus orphaning subcategories is vandalism. Falcon8765 (TALK) 07:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


should Category:Ancient Greek atheists have Category:Ancient Greek philosophers and Category:Atheist philosophers? because they arent necessarily philosophers. -- (talk) 07:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

It's for sorting purposes. Falcon8765 (TALK) 07:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

but its still wrong. -- (talk) 08:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I certainly don't think so. Note the sort key at the end of the categories, so that someone going to Category:Ancient Greek philosophers would see the ones that were atheists sorted thus for easier access. It's described at WP:SORTKEY. Deleting parent categories willy-nilly because you disagree with them and don't understand how categories work on Wikipedia isn't the way to go about things. Falcon8765 (TALK) 08:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Incident on Hitler's religious beliefs

As you know, an IP has been violating NPOV and the 3RR on Hitler's religious beliefs. I would like you to know that I am reporting this incident on the ANI page, and a discussion will take place there. Shakinglord (talk) 15:34, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

A Hope for Home

Hey Falcon, I need help editing A Hope for Home's article. I created it all by myself and I need someone of your expertise to help me prevent it from being deleted and get their album covers on their album articles. Thank you.MatthewCJones (talk) 00:15, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

It's not tagged for deletion at the moment, so you're fine for now. Someone tagged it for speedy deletion but I contested it, and then the same editor prodded it which is a less strict form of deletion that anyone can contest. It might be listed at WP:AFD which is the last method it could be deleted by, but would be subject to debate by other editors to see whether or not it passed the general notability criteria or the notability criteria for bands. Regarding the album covers, general image use policies are here. You just need to add the appropriate non-free image use license to the file pages. How to do so is described at Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline. Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Is there anything on their page that you would change? MatthewCJones (talk) 00:22, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I removed 2 references that used Wikipedia article's as their source and added 2 more categories. Besides that, it looks fine to me. Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks man! I can't figure out the whole album cover deal though, I upload the covers before and they've been deleted so now I can't upload them. MatthewCJones (talk) 00:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Go to the old deleted file page (File:BlahBlah (whatever you named them)) and see who the deleting admin was. Explain the situation on their talk page and they will help you out. Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:55, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I re-uploaded the album covers, could you visit the pages and see if they appear the right way? Here, The End, The Everlasting Man, Realis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewCJones (talkcontribs) 22:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

They got deleted because you uploaded them to Commons, which is for Public Domain works. It's an easy mistake to make so no worries. You just have to upload them to Wikipedia itselft. Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey man, they started a discussion for the deletion of the article here:

I want to thank you for helping me understand wikipedia, create and edit this article rather than just sending a message of deletion like RHaworth. MatthewCJones (talk) 20:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's refreshing to see someone that is actually making the effort to figure out how Wikipedia works. I deal with far too many that don't bother. Falcon8765 (TALK) 20:14, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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Record Collecting

Hi Falcon8765

You recently reverted a couple of links added to Record collecting. I absolutely agree with removing vinylrecordsearch, as it is a blatantly commercial site, and this site has been removed many times over. (Is there a way to blacklist a url?). However, 78rpmcommunity is a non-commercial link which aids in further understanding of the article topic. I didn't add this in the first place, and I don't want to add it back in without hearing why you think this is an inappropriate link. Given that I'm no real expert on Wiki external link protocol, I'd really like to hear your thoughts on the subject. Thanks! 78.26 (talk) 01:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I removed it because it's apparently a social network, and links to social networks are to be avoided as per WP:ELNO. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

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Contest Deletion of Drew Elliot


Can you please reverse your deletion of Drew Elliot. He is notable and has been mentioned in newspapers such as the New York Times, for his inovative work in changing the nature of PR. Here is the link to the article: BizBash has also featured him:

If the article needs to be altered can you please advise me rather than deleting the article all together.

Thank youNcacia (talk) 18:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

User_talk:Peridon was the deleting admin, if you ask him, I'm sure he can work something out for you. Might take him some time to answer though. Falcon8765 (TALK) 22:17, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Flickr Image upload

I'm just wondering whether I need to message an onwer for permission if I'm uploading images on Flickr with CC-BY-SA or CC-BY. Thanks! Bordercolliez (talk) 05:02, 24 September 2011 (UTC) Bordercolliez (talk) 11:41, 24 September 2011 (UTC)BorderColliez

Not to the best of my knowledge, but I'm not super familiar with such things. Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:46, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

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Any Reason you sent two warnings for ONE dit to the Trail of Blood and Tears????

Who is your supervisor? I need to escalate my complaint to them. You obviosly do not know or respect the differences between historical Facts and personal opinion. The Trail of Blood and Tears is the Historically Accurate name for the Indian Removal of 1830.

I Corrected the name twice and was given TWO level 2 warnings by YOU for filling out Wiki's own request as to "WHY DID YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES" Why does Wkipedia ask "WHY DID YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES" if all they are going to do is allow power hungry folks to reprimand people for stating WHY they have made the immediate changes?!

Here are a few of Many references for the True Historically Accurate name "The Trail Of Blood And Tears"


9th Paragraph: "The A.F.B. activist recalled the atrocities meted out to the Native Americans in United States two centuries ago in the Trail of Blood and Tears of Cherokee Indians, the Sand Creek Massacre of November 29, 1864 and the massacre of the Yuki of Northern California (1856-1860). "The situation in Balochistan today is an exact replica of those sad chapters of U.S. history and you can help us stop this," the A.F.B. activist urged the gathering."


 "A Quiet Trail of Blood and Tears" by Ken Brady

3.) 2nd Paragraph: "A.F.B. members Rashid Baloch and Malik Baloch on Thursday drew a parallel between the trail of blood and tears of the Native Americans to the gruesome happenings in Baluchistan, where the Baluch are engaged in a heroic struggle to regain their statehood."


"Band of Sisters United by a Trail of Blood and Tears"
Sincerely, Jessica Fawn

04:39, 28 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

I personally left you a second notice after you continued the behaviour that got you the first one. I am not nor are 99% of other editors an employee of Wikipedia. I am a volunteer, and thus have no supervisor. I suggest to you that you take a step back and familiarize yourself with the basics of how Wikipedia works before editing as you have been. The article is named the way it is because that is what the vast majority of reliable sourced (click blue links for more information on what is considered a reliable source to us) call it. The specifics of this particular guideline are outlined at WP:COMMONNAME. Thank you. Falcon8765 (TALK) 04:48, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Your authority needs to be removed because of you abusive behavior.,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2ba85e9b8f16205f&biw=1112&bih=545 Here are at least 3 references Wikipedia considers "reliable" to prove the Fact of the Name most accurate is truly the Trail of Blood and Tears. I feel you are discriminating against me, and I need to be able to contact who ever decided to give you authority that you abuse. (talk) 05:13, 28 September 2011 (UTC) Sincerely

I don't have much patience for behavior such as this, and as such, I am finished with this particular discussion. You are free to continue discussion on Talk:Trail of Tears, where you may query my behavior as much as you please. Falcon8765 (TALK) 05:25, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Rosendo Amor Esparza

Would you help me with the image in this article? I do not know wich is my mistake. Thank you. --Cuativoro (talk) 00:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

2011 Texas Tech rankings

Thanks for adding this updated rankings. Just wanted to let you know that for the 2011 season, Week 5 rankings were released on Oct. 2 and Week 6 rankings will be released (hopefully with the Red Raiders) on Oct. 9. I corrected your edits (see summary here) to include the right week. NThomas (talk) 00:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

I thought I was wrong about that, was just going by what the week listings were on ESPN. Thanks for fixing it for me. Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:52, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Alex Da Kid

You keep deleting my content and Alex is very unhappy. I tried citing stuff and you guys keep taking it down. Please help— Preceding unsigned comment added by rpb.atl (talkcontribs)

I reverted your edit because you are adding an external link into the text of an article, which we don't do. If you would like to use the link to cite a source, see WP:CITE. Thank you Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Will you please help me cite the source, I don't know what I'm doing wrong and no amount of reading of the article has helped. Please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpb.atl (talkcontribs) 18:18, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

The article I linked to you above explains how to do it and all the various different types of citations you can use depending on what you are using it for. However, you appear to be affiliated with the subject of the article and thus have a conflict of interest. Editing with a conflict of interest is highly discouraged. Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:21, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

User talk:

Just wanted to let you know that we both put similar warnings on this editor's talkpage for one of their actions (at the same time) and I deleted yours, because it seemed redundant to me. If that's not ok with you, feel free to restore your warning and delete mine - no worries. Shearonink (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Memphis Pom Article - Speedy Deletion

Hi Falcon8765

I was wondering if you can help me understand why my article was selected for speedy deletion, and how I can fix it.


mnbrrett — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnbrrett (talkcontribs) 01:47, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

For reference, I declined the speedy deletion, as turning it into a non-puff piece wasn't too much work. The article still really needs sources; you could conceivably take it to AfD, though I think the fact that the group has won 13 national dance competitions probably makes them automatically notable. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: First 48.

I can't add the source. I've try adding several different sites, as this is a major news story and multiple sources exist, but for some reason it won't let me add it when I go to save.. it says "Please Remove Source" or something. Anyways I tried sending you a message and it seems it didn't go through here is the source— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

If you can provide the source, I will link it for you if it is appropriate. Falcon8765 (TALK) 23:08, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I've tried leaving it several times but you keep edit conflicting me. The content wasn't invaluable that it needed to be reverted, probably only cited. At any rate here:,0,5157744.story

ok cool, evertime i tried to add it it would just tell me to remove it or something. ok cool -- (talk) 23:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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John Diefenbaker's alleged love child

Re. the edit at — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:25, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Isn't CTV News a legitimate enough news source as reference? Here are more:

Take your pick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

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Tavis Smiley

Before restoring any of this, verify the sources. The quote is a verbatum copy of a well sourced quote in the Anderson Cooper article. The source here is a 404 page on a blog. The rest of the section has similar problems. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:51, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I did a cursory glance of the Anderson Cooper article and didn't notice the second paragraph was copied as it wasn't clear what portion of the article the IP was referring to. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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I'm not coming across them via the new pages list, but via filtering on Huggle, therefor I can't tag them as patrolled. When I do specifically work on the new page list, I always do. Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hmm... I thought Huggle had a set up to let you patrol them. In that case, nevermind. Inks.LWC (talk) 18:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
As far as I know, it is. The log on Huggle is saying I am as I tag them, so if I'm not I don't know what the deal is. Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Falcon8765! Tried to edit the content in the "flashmob" page today but it kept getting deleted. Why is it that there is so much negative info on the page about this topic? Just trying to give the subject some positive light, but I guess I'm going about it the wrong way? Any info would be appreciated! Thanks, (talk) 20:27, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Per the external link guidelines, youtube links are almost always avoided. Brings up too many issues. If you disagree, by all means start a discussion on the relevant talk page. Falcon8765 (TALK) 20:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


i'm so sorry i couldn't help myself my friend dared me too :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:32, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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Warlord Muhammad?

You... seem to have reverted as vandalism a change on the page for Caliphate from "Warlord Muhammad" to "Prophet Muhammad." While "Prophet Muhammad" might not be perfect, it's certainly less likely to offend than "Warlord Muhammad." It's certainly not vandalism. Twin Bird (talk) 16:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't revert it as vandalism or the edit summary would say "identified as vandalism". I thought it was breaking a template with the change, but I see I was incorrect. Falcon8765 (TALK) 17:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

To Falcon8765

            I am a student at the swinton high school and we have houses called swin and tohg you sent me a message saying do not add inappropriate things on this page and my changes where changed please may i add these houses 
                                          Thank you and keep helping
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Carver Center for the Arts and Technology

Was trying to add myself as an alumni to Carver's page. I started there when the school was CVT, helped it transform to CST and then CCAT.

If you can put me back in, I'd appreciate it. Teacher was Chick West, Multi-media Communications.

Douglas Smith (1993 Graduate and Student Teacher in 1994), is an experienced graphic designer and works for a major marketing agency in Maryland overseeing advertising strategy, creative design and digital marketing. Douglas helped get Carver started by designing the original school logo which appeared on all marketing material and blue prints. During his time at Carver, he was the first recipient to receive the Maryland Distinguished Scholar scholarship for computer animation. Also, he won first place for Carver in the International Media Festival for Computer Animation and Video Production. During this time, Douglas attended two High Schools and received a diploma from Carver in 1993. In 1994, Douglas returned as a student teacher and taught Juniors and Seniors photography, graphic design, video production and computer animation. Today, Douglas produces marketing campaigns across all of North America and his creativity can be found in large market publications.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

I reverted it because you aren't citing a reliable source for that info. Click the blue link for what a reliable source is considered. Falcon8765 (TALK) 21:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Catholic Newman Center ‎

I too am frustrated by my All Saints Catholic Newman Center page being tagged for speedy deletion. Much of the information I created, and the remainder is purely fact that we use in our Ministry materials. Please intag for speedy deletion. Thanks! davidjames911 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidjames911 (talkcontribs) 01:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I completely understand your frustration, but we can't use copyrighted materials in articles. If you own the material in question, check out Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for directions on how to make it acceptable for use. Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
In the event of it's deletion and you go through the steps described above, you can contact the deleting admin and they can restore the material for you to work on. So don't worry about losing a big blob of work or anything. Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

How do I submit this information? I see the link, but again, i am a new user. Help is appreciated! Sorry if I am posting in like 5 different locations...not sure where is best to have this conversation. Thanks! Davidjames911 (talk) 01:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC) Here is a link to the History section of our website. This is a more biographical story of the Newman Center, but verifies some of the facts used in my page. Furthermore, much of the page I started, I WROTE! Thanks! Davidjames911 (talk) 01:49, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The problem lies in that all the material on Wikipedia must comply with a specific creative commons license, so we have to go through a process for material that is copyrighted in order to use it. If you click here, it will describe exactly what you need to do. Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:49, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

1. This is NOT copyrighted material. 2. I wrote much of it myself. How am I supposed to prove a copyright when I pasted it in from my Word Document? Davidjames911 (talk) 01:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, as written on the linked page "One simple way to grant permission to copy material already on line is to put that permission explicitly on the site where that material is posted. This is commonly known as a "copyleft" notice. This notice must state that your site (or portions of your site) are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA) and the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts) or that it is in the public domain. For text, a good statement of release might read: The text of this website [or page, if you are specifically releasing one section] is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts)." As the material you are wanting to use is available in a pdf at [3], you could edit that to reflect the above. However, there are a few other policies and guidelines editors need to follow, so what I'd recommend is that we move the article to your user space (not technically an article) so you can work on it an ask for advice without the risk of it being deleted. Would you prefer that instead? Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The reason some of the wording that I am using on my page is available in that PDF is because I too wrote that one. If necessary, I can logon to that site and delete that file. Would that solve this issue? Davidjames911 (talk) 01:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. Without the steps I've outlined above, we can't use it for legal reasons. It sucks I know, but that's copyright law for ya. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


I went ahead and moved it to User:Davidjames911/All Saints Catholic Newman Center so you can work on it. In order for it not to be deleted and be included as a true article, it must meet notability, neutrality, and other guidelines. It can all be a bit overwhelming for a new editor, but you can ask any question you'd like and search for answers at Help:Contents/Communication. Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have lots of time to devote to this, so I would say to whoever the "powers that be," to delete the page in its entirety and go ahead and delete my account. This is truly dissappointing. I understand copyrights, etc. But I sent my word document over to the permissions email address and posted the OCRS in progress thingy at the bottom of the discussions page. I am NOT going to devote a lot of time to this. Thank you anyways for your help. Davidjames911 (talk) 02:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I'm not a huge fan of intellectual property laws in general, but it is what it is. If you ever have time in the future, check out Wikipedia:Your_first_article and give it another go. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:06, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

How long will the redirect stay there when people search for the All Saints Catholic Newman Center? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidjames911 (talkcontribs) 02:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The redirect won't remain, but I'll leave the article on at User:Davidjames911/All Saints Catholic Newman Center. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible for me to simply copy and paste from our website and use that as the source? Thoughts??? Davidjames911 (talk) 02:13, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. It still doesn't address the copyright issue. There are the other problems with the text itself even without that. Wording and neutrality and formatting etc. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:18, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Anyways, I need to get to bed. If you have any other questions, just check out [4] and someone there will help you shortly :). Thanks. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

FRUSTRATING. I sent my word doc over to That was what the instructions said. I don't know how any other church got on this site...seriously. Davidjames911 (talk) 02:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I was very frustrated when I just started out editing too, so I completely understand. Just take things slowly, take a bit of time to read the articles I linked, ask questions if you have any, and you'll get the hang of it. You can work on your article a little bit at a time until it's ready and you can solicit the help of other editors as well. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:29, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Richard Ricky Rayner

 I would just like to enquire as to why my page regarding Richard Rayner was deleted? As a close friend I feel I have an in-depth knowledge of his life and career
 JPGirling  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPGirling (talkcontribs) 22:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC) 
Because it was a blatant attack page, as well as the other issues linked on your talk page. Do not create another article like that. Falcon8765 (TALK) 22:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Colombia's article improvements

As we all know, especially if you look at the few featured articles that exist on countries, Geography section comes immediately after the History section. I suggest we make that change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alejinarango (talkcontribs) 20:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I apologize. I undid my revert. Your change was fine, I just made a mistake. Falcon8765 (TALK) 20:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

thanks for your help on joe hall morris...

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Home_Automation External Link

My link to was removed (again), I am guessing (based on your latest info) because it also offers a forum feature. However, the site is much more than a forum (the link doesn't even point to the forum directly), and contains news, many reviews, tutorials, guides and lists which have #1 spots in most search results, so I am not sure how this could be not considered for inclusion (it's similar to the HiddenWires link, except it offers more relevant content, without selling anything). Please take a moment to check out the site and let me know how to address this. Thanks! 0xkiwi (talk) 14:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

If you check out WP:ELNO, you'll see it falls under serveral of the items listed there unfortunately. If you disagree, feel free to start a discussion on the relevant talk page. Falcon8765 (TALK) 14:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Can you specify which items please? The DIY HA link contains a direct link to a forum as well, so I am not sure what the issue is at this point. Thanks! 0xkiwi (talk) 14:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I just remove those as well. Just add it to [5]. It's a forum/open wiki primarily as far as I can tell. Falcon8765 (TALK) 14:31, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I hate to be a pain here (I honestly just want to get to the bottom of this, no hard feelings), but are you telling me that links such as (most comprehensive list of home automation software out there) and are not good enough? The site is filled with content like this. I guess I can start a discussing about this on the Home_Automation talk page, but it's pretty full already, and it doesn't look like anyone responds to the EL requests. This feels like an uphill battle, and only people interested in home automation information are the ones getting punished (it personally doesn't affect me). 0xkiwi (talk) 14:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
WP:OTHERTHINGSEXIST. I understand your frustration, but the problem is that it remains a community forum/open wiki. If you can get other editors to agree with the link's inclusion on the talk page, it can be added. Otherwise, just submit it to DMOZ and it will be linked on the page indirectly. Falcon8765 (TALK) 14:50, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I started a discussion about this on the Home_Automation talk page, and included examples why the link should be included. Would love it if you could chime in (assuming you have had the chance to take a look at the site and the content), since the forums are only a tiny part of this site. Thanks either way! PS: As for DMOZ, it's already listed there in another home automation category, but more people use wikipedia to learn about topics (can't remember myself when I visited DMOZ to find something) 0xkiwi (talk) 15:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Falcon8765, can you please chime in on the Home_Automation talk page? Only 1 person has responded, and doesn't seem to understand the site. If you don't believe the site should be linked after actually checking out the various components, then I will give up trying to convince you guys, I just want a fair chance. Thanks.0xkiwi (talk) 13:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi; today I've reverted what seems to be vandalism by User talk: at Fresh & Easy; I see you warned him/her in September 2009 that with further vandalism "You will be blocked from editing". I'm unsure what (if anything) ought to be done next, can you help/do it?! Thank you so much. Carbonix (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Since IP's can change hands and many are dynamic and can represent many editors, we generally just rewarn them until it passes a certain threshhold. If they keep vandalizing, they will be blocked though. Falcon8765 (TALK) 02:27, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the guidance. Carbonix (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi fellow editor, I noticed you reverted something on Sikhism. The editor in question does not sem to have got to a good start and has already recieved warnings for removal in other topics here. My suspicion is he is a Sockpuppet I had issues with on Sikh articles some time back. Sikh articles tend to suffer from fanaticism like most religious articles. Thanks again for your intervetion SH 16:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Educational Consultants (India) Limited

You tagged it G12 - but the link you gave was Astute Education (or something) which didn't match the text (so far as I can see). I've tagged it A7, but if you switched links by accident, you may want to G12 it again. Cheers. (Happens at times...) Peridon (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. The author was Astute Neophyte, but the site didn't mention this outfit on the link given. Peridon (talk) 22:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph is copied verbatim from [6]. I see what happened, I googled the first clause of the last sentence there in quotes, and it was used verbatiim by another website without the last portion of the sentence. My mistake. Falcon8765 (TALK) 22:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Thought something had glitched. Not to worry. Hit it again.... Peridon (talk) 22:15, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

speedy deletion of Asdfmovie

I responded to the proposal for speedy deletion of asdfmovie. I gave some reasons why the web content is significant including it has had over twenty two million views. Part of the notice said I should feel confident to continue editing the page, but of course I worry that my edits will be sucked into the vacuum of webspace and obliterated. Please let me know if you now think the page is notable and I'll then continue editing on it. makeswell (talk) 01:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

It needs reliable, third-party sources indicating how it is notable. Just having X number of views doesn't make it inherently notable as Wikipedia defines it. For specific information on what is and isn't considered notable, just click the link for notable in this response. Falcon8765 (TALK) 01:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
In order for it to be considered notable does there need to be that there are reliable third-party pages discussing the topic or that there are reliable third party pages discussing how notable the topic is? If the former is the case then it is notable according to the Wikipedia system because there is an article about it on TV Tropes, an article about it on Know Your Meme, and an article about it on Wikitubia. There is also a page on facebook with over 20,000 likes therefore showing popularity, but I guess that isn't the same thing as notable is. makeswell (talk) 02:54, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Make your case on the talk page of the article in question rather than here. If an admin agrees with your reasoning, it won't be deleted. Falcon8765 (TALK) 07:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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