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Welcome back[edit]

I'm glad you're back. Don't take the 3RR block too personally. It's a hard-line rule, and even experienced editors sometimes get tripped up by it. Having been blocked once for 3RR isn't going to affect your reputation on Wikipedia if your editing is otherwise good and your interactions with other editors are civil.

It's best never to revert anything more than once. If a single revert doesn't fix the issue, one needs to rely on discussion and building consensus. --Srleffler (talk) 03:24, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Ice fog and Fog[edit]

I noticed that you recently copied a section of text from the Ice fog article into the Fog article. Whilst I personally have no problem with the move that you made, you are probably unaware that you committed a copyright violation when you performed the move.

The copyright in all text in Wikipedia belongs to the editor(s) who provided the text and not to Wikipedia. Although all text is released under the CC BY-SA 3.0 copyleft license, that license nevertheless requires that the contributor(s) of the text is/are properly acknowledged (See WP:ATTREQ for more). When text is moved (or merged) from one article to another, that atribution would normally be lost as the target article does not automatically point to the source article's edit history. In order to maintain the atribution there are two things you have to do.

  1. You must provide an edit summary along the lines of "Copied text from [[Ice fog]] to here. See [[Talk:Ice fog#<Merge proposal section>]].". The important part here is the Wikilink back to the source article. The link to the discussion is only required if a discussion takes place. A proposal and discussion is only required if you think that the copy or merge may be controversial or if someone objects by reversing the copy or merge.
  2. You must put the {{Copied|from=source|from_oldid=source|to=destination|diff=|date=}} template on the talk pages of both the source and the destination article. In the case of a complete merger of one article into another, the simpler {{merged-from|source page|date=}} (for the destination talk page) and {{merged-to|destination page|date=}} (for the source talk page) templates are available.

I have put the {{copied}} templates on the talk pages of both articles for you but it is, of course, too late to add the link to the edit summary, though I believe that the talk page tags are the more important as they are always visible. Have a look at the merge procedure for more information. –LiveRail Talk > 14:32, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Huntington, Nevada[edit]

Hi-I just finished writing the article Huntington, Nevada. I was planning to write for a few weeks now. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:10, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi-I also wrote an article about Fay, Nevada. I like write articles about unincorporated communities/ghost towns because of the notable people-famous and infamous who were born in these communities, the history, buildings, etc. This is one of the reasons I like being part of the Wikipedia Community. Again my thanks-RFD (talk) 12:28, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Your input would be appreciated[edit]

Hi there. I'd appreciate your input on this comment. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 01:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Magnolia677, I think its mostly worked out. I'm gonna stick with the GNIS locations as far as how much I do. Famartin (talk) 04:01, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for creating several NJ-related pages. I hope you continue to create more statewide. Keep up the great work! Tinton5 (talk) 21:39, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Zebulon Pike and Lamberton vs. Lamington[edit]

The confusion about Zebulon Pike being born in Lamberton, New Jersey (the one in Trenton) is rather longstanding. Not only does it go back to sources I can find from as far back as the 19th century and up to the very recent past in reliable sources, but the incorrect factoid was even part of the first edit to the article for Lamberton. I've reinserted details regarding the erroneous claim into the Lamberton article with a source showing that Lamington, New Jersey is Pike's correct birthplace, and added details to the Lamington article indicating that Lamberton is incorrect. Alansohn (talk) 06:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Inland Fisher Guide Plant (New Jersey) and Ewing Township[edit]

I reinserted some details regarding the Inland Fisher Guide Plant (New Jersey) in the article for Ewing Township, New Jersey, focusing on the historic usage of the first industrial robots to replace human factory workers at the site in 1961. The material was trimmed down from what had been removed and more focused on the historic element. Take a look and see if this could also be relocated to the article's economy section. I also want to echo Tinton5's compliments above and thank you for your competent and thorough work to expand and create usefully detailed articles about so many places in New Jersey. Alansohn (talk) 14:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Duck Island[edit]

Hi there, I wanted to discuss one of your edits (instead of just making the edit then explaining afterwards). You created Duck Island, New Jersey, and I was going to add a bit of history to it, as it was the site of the famous "Duck Island Murders" in 1938. My concern though, is that you used a Template:Infobox settlement in the article, when it should have been a Template:Infobox islands. The New Jersey Local Name Search lists all kinds of places, from coves to cities to islands, so it really isn't a very accurate source. I looked in GNIS, and it lists Duck Island as an island. It also provided accurate geo-coordinates. In my experience, only populated places (according to GNIS) are added to Wiki as settlements. What are your thoughts? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Magnolia677: Well... if you look at the map, you'll notice that its not actually an island. Otherwise, I'm not sure what to do with it.Famartin (talk) 04:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Just change the infobox. It's more than notable enough to meet the criteria of a "named natural feature", per WP:GEOLAND. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Magnolia677, given that Trenton at the very least considers it a neighborhood (based on maps referenced on the Duck Island, New Jersey page), I decided to make a separate article about the landform itself called Duck Island (New Jersey). So, you can put the notation about the murders in either one. Famartin (talk) 22:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Zion, New Jersey[edit]

Hi there. I'm probably not using the same source as you. Where did you find Zion (partly) in Hillsborough Township? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 01:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Magnolia677, compare the coordinate plot here: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.440556,-74.738611&hl=en&t=m&z=14 to the map showing the outline of Montgomery Township here: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=montgomery+township,+nj&hl=en&ll=40.436038,-74.743595&spn=0.053765,0.077162&sll=37.6,-95.665&sspn=56.195322,79.013672&t=m&hnear=Montgomery,+Somerset+County,+New+Jersey&z=14 and the map showing the outline of Hillsborough Township here: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Hillsborough+township,+nj&hl=en&ll=40.436038,-74.743681&spn=0.053765,0.077162&sll=40.436038,-74.743595&sspn=0.053765,0.077162&hnear=Hillsborough+Township,+Somerset+County,+New+Jersey&t=m&z=14 Famartin (talk) 02:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
This is actually the reason I don't add townships to the articles I create. Cheers, and thanks for all your hard work! Magnolia677 (talk) 02:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Corbin City merger[edit]

Successful or not, the prospective merger of Corbin City, New Jersey and Upper Township is encyclopedic in demonstrating the challenges of consolidating the state's 565 municipalities. I added details regarding the failure and put it into a history section. let me know if you have any questions. Alansohn (talk) 21:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Pond Run, New Jersey[edit]

Hi again. Forgive me if I am mistaken, but I couldn't help but notice (when you edited the Mercer County template) that you added another geographic feature to Wikipedia and mistook it for an unincorporated community. The only "Pond Run" in New Jersey at the coordinates you've provided is this one. I've also looked at four different maps; Pond Run appears to be a stream. While I'm no expert on New Jersey, I would strongly advise you not to rely on the New Jersey locality search, which seems to list a number of bodies of water. Thanks again. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Magnolia677, Check the second reference. It definitely is, or at least was, a community. Famartin (talk) 23:57, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Magnolia677, PS, its not "another" since Duck Island is considered to be a section of Trenton along with being an island (well, peninsula). BTW, I did add the island/peninsula article so if you wanted to put the murder info there, its available. Famartin (talk) 00:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Famartin, I'm sorry for using the word "another". I'm very grateful for the effort you've made adding new places to New Jersey and elsewhere. About Pond Run, in this source from 1834, when this was still Nottingham Township, Pond Run was described as "a small tributary of the Assanpink Creek" [1]. Then, in 1878--six years after the map you used as a source was published--Daniel South's clay pits are described as being "three miles east of Trenton, and near Pond run, a tributary of the Assanpink Creek" [2]. Thank you again. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Magnolia677, there's no denying that the Pond Run is *also* a stream, but the map cited definitely indicates that it is both a stream and a community, based on how the text is written. It makes sense a little town would be in that area given the confluence of roads there. Famartin (talk) 00:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Absolutely. I'll poke around and dig up reference for the settlement. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Rockingham[edit]

Nice work on all the unincorporated communities. Do you and to add a link to Rockingham (house)? The house was originally located in Rockingham, but was later moved south. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Just did ;) Magnolia677. If you have more history to add, please feel free. Famartin (talk) 12:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Categorization of unincorporated communities in New Jersey[edit]

Categorization on Wikipedia follows the below hierarchy:

Can you please correct the stubs you have created by placing them in the correct Category:Unincorporated communities in New Jersey by county and removing the parent Category:Unincorporated communities in New Jersey tag? Thanks. Djflem (talk) 10:13, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

New Jersey historic districts[edit]

When you redirect a historic district to a community's article (as I noticed you've done with several places in Hunterdon County), would you mind adding the WikiProject National Register of Historic Places banner to the talk page? We keep track of our quality statistics using the project banners, and the stats from New Jersey are a bit off without the tags. Thanks for helping out with the redirects! TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 01:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I can take care of it. Famartin (talk) 02:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
TheCatalyst31, the national one specifically, or just the state one? Famartin (talk) 02:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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Sourcing for Ewing Township neighborhoods[edit]

Your recent edit removed source needed tags for neighborhoods in Ewing Township. My previous edit had added a source that covers some of these neighborhoods but there is no source for most of the places in the list. Rather than merely removing the tags, could you provide a source to support the entries that I had tagged for sources? How should we deal with such unsourced entries going forward? Alansohn (talk) 14:46, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Alan, each linked entry has sources on its own page. I don't see any reason to add sources to multiple pages when a link to the page with the source should suffice. Especially since its a list. Famartin (talk) 18:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Fama, let's start with Altura, New Jersey. It's an article with 14 words of content. It's backed up by a single source from GNIS, with a Google link that merely mirrors the GNIS link. There's no mention of the neighborhood at the township's website and no mention on the NJ Locality Search page. Each entry in each article needs a source and that's why I tagged those not listed in the source I found as needing a citation, not removing the entry but hoping that someone would come along and add the needed source. Sure it has an article, but how do I know that Altura (and each of the other unsourced entries) belongs in the article for Ewing Township, New Jersey? Alansohn (talk) 18:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Alan, I know what you are really trying to do with your "GNIS is untrustworth, and should not be used" argument and trying to make a point about it. However, I have clear evidence that you are doing so in a biased fashion, so you should stop. For example, about a month ago you made updates to the Fair Lawn article. That article has a long description within its neighborhoods section... and exactly ZERO references. You made absolutely no notation of this. So, either actually make a real attempt to note all instances of unreferenced entries in NJ articles... or stop. Famartin (talk) 19:08, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Fama, I didn't make the edits to the Fair Lawn article and the material is definitely questionable; I would support your efforts to remove the content and if it would make you happy I will edit and add source tags. I have looked at that article's edit history and I haven't edited the article in six weeks or so, and I;m unsure of your evidence of bias. Yes, I am rather leery of GNIS and of articles like Altura based solely on it and nothing else, but you notice that I haven't done anything to the article. All I'm asking for is a source in the Ewing Township article for each of the communities. Anything will do as long as it's reliable and verifiable. Either make an attempt to add sources where they are required... or stop. Alansohn (talk) 20:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
No, you didn't make the edits to Fair Lawn, but you didn't care to add the citation needed tags when you did make different updates, either. But fine, I added all those ridiculous references which are already found in the relevant articles. It looks silly. But whatever, gotta keep the great Alansohn happy. Famartin (talk) 03:49, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Trenton, New Jersey[edit]

Why did you revert my edit? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Because everyone else is right, and you are wrong. Famartin (talk) 21:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Shoshone, Nevada on State Route 894[edit]

Hey Famartin, I loved the pictures you took of Nevada Route 894. I lived there in the 1950s. It is out in the middle of nowhere. Thanks, Randy <ranedge@gmail.com> 70.185.250.33 (talk) 05:58, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

photographs[edit]

I am originally from Ely and have been to the top of most of the peaks that you have photos of. Plus a lot of other Nevada peaks. I really enjoyed looking at your photography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.171.154.156 (talk) 02:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! My days of climbing and photographing Nevada mountains are *probably* over since I just moved out of state last month, but you never know... Famartin (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Agreed your photos are boss. It's none of my business but are you from NJ too? Since you have edited many related pages. I noticed you shifted away from editing them. Tinton5 (talk) 05:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I am originally from NJ. After living in Nevada for 8 years I just recently moved to the DC 'burbs in northern Virginia. I got tired of the NJ drama so decided that, given all the other things going on, it would be good to retreat from the NJ editing for a while. Maybe I'll come back eventually. Famartin (talk) 06:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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Photos for U.S. Route 113[edit]

I love that you have taken and added so many photos to Maryland route articles. I am particularly pleased with how you have added photos to the list articles.

The US 113 article is likely going to be on the front page in May. Do you have any photos of US 113, and if so, can you add them to that article soon?  V 06:17, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi  V, I'm afraid I have not been that far east in Maryland (or that far south in Delaware) in many years, so I don't have any photos of US 113. Maybe at some point over the next year or two I'll get out there for some road photography. Sorry to disappoint, but glad you like my work so far! Famartin (talk) 06:59, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

RE: Roads in Fairfax County[edit]

Because it's inconsistent with the other categories, and of course, inconsistency is bad. ToThAc (talk) 12:43, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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Secondary Virginia state routes[edit]

I see that you have been making pages like Virginia State Route 610. I thought all of the secondary state routes in Virginia were supposed to be put in the List of secondary state highways in Virginia page. If that does happen, then pages like SR 610 could be converted into disambiguation pages. Did you bring up this idea with Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads? Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 02:00, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

That would be impossible. There are literally tens of thousands of secondary routes. They couldn't possibly go on one page. After giving it considerable thought, I realized that doing one for each number would limit each page to less than 100 entries, which is more reasonable. Famartin (talk) 02:33, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Well, I didn't realize there are that many secondary state routes in the state. We could make multiple pages, such as List of former state highways in Indiana (1–199), with the proper routelist templates. Also, the descriptions of each highway should be made somewhere. Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 05:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
I have made several comments on the "list" page you referenced, which never got any replies, so I decided to "be bold" in true wikipedia style. On the new page design I started developing, a column could be added for a description, but honestly, that make it needlessly wordy. Instead, I modelled this project the design of lists of county routes for NJ counties, since secondary routes in VA are at the same level of importance as county routes in NJ - i.e., generally not deserving of much description.Famartin (talk) 05:45, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

List of Highways numbered 614-620[edit]

Just an advice. Why don't you combine all these articles as one article with title, "List of Highways numbered 614-620".  M A A Z   T A L K  22:48, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Why? User:Ma'az, there are other highway articles that should be listed under these numbers. Just do a quick search. Since I'm working on adding VA ones, I only added those, but there are others. Famartin (talk) 00:20, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Famartin,

I noticed an inconsistency among two pages but as a novice, I don't really know what to do with so I leave a message here because you made already multiple edits at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_State_Route_267 page. I arrived here from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantia_(company) but there seems to be something wrong with the ownership mentionings but I'm not really an encyclopedian, just have a good eye for details. Any (usefull) advice will be appreciated.

Doggy daddy (talk) 14:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

@Doggy daddy:, could you be more specific about the inconsistency? Famartin (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
@Famartin:, don't know if this is the right way to answer, we'll see. On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantia_(company) it mentions 'Another subsidiary of Atlantia, Autostrade of Virginia, is a member of the consortium that operates the Dulles Greenway' but on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_State_Route_267#Dulles_Greenway 'Toll Road Investors Partnership II (TRIP II)' consisting of the Bryant/Crane Family LLC, the Franklin L. Haney Co.,[20] and Kellogg Brown & Root (KB&R)is mentioned as the owner, which in 2005 was acquired by Australian firm Macquarie Infrastructure Group. So, no mention of the Autostrade of Virginia subsidiary of Atlantia. Doggy daddy (talk) 14:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
@Doggy daddy:, I am really not knowledgeable about the ownership and operation details of the Dulles Greenway, so you should probably bring all this up on the talk page for Route 267. Or, if you are confident about what is correct (citing sources), then feel free to change it yourself. Famartin (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Trenton Skyline[edit]

Hi Famartin.

Can you I use your picture for non-commercial use without using attribution on the picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.241.64.18 (talk) 18:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

First, you shold probably ask on my commons talk page. Second... no. Why would I like that? Besides, why would you need to do that? A simple attribution line is easy. Famartin (talk) 17:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

There is no longer an Interstate 95 Trenton Section[edit]

Hi Famartin:

There is no longer an Interstate 95 Trenton Section. This section is now Interstate 295 from Exit 67 at U.S. Highway Route 1 (Brunswick Pike) to Exit 51 at Taylorsville Road in Pennsylvania. The changes have been made by the NJDOT (New Jersey Department of Transportation) from Exit 67 on Interstate 295 to Exit 2 on Interstate 95 (Trenton Section) at CR (County Route) 579 Beaver Tavern Road and by the DRJTBC (Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission) from Exit 2 on Interstate 95 (Trenton Section) at CR (County Route) 579 Beaver Tavern Road to Exit 51 at Taylorsville Road in Pennsylvania. See http://I95Link.com (I95Link.com ).--Myeabnwp (talk) 22:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

That's nice. Since I drive it about once a month, I'm well aware. Famartin (talk) 00:26, 13 April 2018 (UTC)