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31 July 2018

Ichthus: July 2018[edit]

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July 2018

The Top 7 report
By Lionelt

The big news was the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. The Top 7 most popular articles in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Elizabeth I of England – legendary monarch who ushered in the Elizabethan Era over the dead body of her half-sister (#5)
    2. Henry VIII of England – on his deathbed the last words of the king who founded the English Reformation were "Monks! Monks! Monks!"
    3. Martin Luther King Jr. – can't wait to see the new US$5 bill featuring the "I Have a Dream" speech
    4. Seven deadly sins – surprisingly "original research" is not one of the Seven deadly sins
    5. Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC)
    6. Michael Curry (bishop) – our article says that he upstaged Meghan at her wedding. Did you see her wedding pictures? All I can say is {{dubious}}
    7. Robert F. Kennedy – when informed that missiles were being installed in Cuba he famously quipped, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?"

Did you know
Nominated by The C of E

... that the little-known 1758 Methodist hymn "Sun of Unclouded Righteousness" asks God to send the doctrine of the "Unitarian fiend ... back to hell", referring to both Islam and Unitarianism?

Our newest Featured list
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The Last Judgment by painter Hans Memling.
The Last Judgment by painter Hans Memling.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events. Predictions of apocalyptic events that would result in the extinction of humanity, a collapse of civilization, or the destruction of the planet have been made since at least the beginning of the Christian Era. Most predictions are related to Abrahamic religions, often standing for or similar to the eschatological events described in their scriptures. Christian predictions typically refer to events like the Rapture, Great Tribulation, Last Judgment, and the Second Coming of Christ.

Polls conducted in 2012 across 20 countries found over 14% of people believe the world will end in their lifetime, with percentages raging from 6% of people in France to 22% in the US and Turkey. In the UK in 2015, the general public believed the likeliest cause would be nuclear war, while experts thought it would be artificial intelligence. Between one and three percent of people from both countries thought the apocalypse would be caused by zombies or alien invasion. (more...)

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).


Administrator changes

added PbsouthwoodTheSandDoctor
readded Gogo Dodo
removed AndrevanDougEVulaKaisaLTony FoxWilyD

Bureaucrat changes

removed AndrevanEVula

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
  • A request for comment closed with a consensus that the {{promising draft}} template cannot be used to indefinitely prevent a WP:G13 speedy deletion nomination.

Technical news

  • Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
  • Syntax highlighting has been graduated from a Beta feature on the English Wikipedia. To enable this feature, click the highlighter icon (Codemirror-icon.png) in your editing toolbar (or under the hamburger menu in the 2017 wikitext editor). This feature can help prevent you from making mistakes when editing complex templates.
  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in July (previously scheduled for June). This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.


  • Currently around 20% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 17% a year ago. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless if you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


@Marcocapelle, Timrollpickering, Armbrust, Nyttend, and Explicit: I'm signing off Wikipedia for two weeks, and am notifying you as other editors who have been active at CFD lately. If anything comes up that you think could really do with my attention before the end of July, email me and I'll probably pick it up. Best wishes – Fayenatic London 19:50, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


Dear Fayenatic,

You are cordially invited to join the Portals WikiProject.

This is a very active project. We are in the process of completely revamping the entire portal system, and cleaning up the portal namespace. After these are done, we'll be greatly expanding the collections of portals. We have many design discussions going on, and many task types to choose from.

We also have a newsletter, that covers the progress of portal development, and the latest toys.

If you are interested, please feel welcome to sign-up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Portals#Project_participants.

By the way, I'm very interested in what you think of portals. What do you like most about them? What do they lack that they should have? What can't they do, that you would like them to be able to do?

I look forward to your replies.    — The Transhumanist   09:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: Please {{ping}} me in your reply. Thank you. -TT

@The Transhumanist: Thanks. I've never really used portals myself, but I have done work to improve navigation to them, especially by adding them to category pages, sometimes by incorporating {{portal}} in other templates. I don't have time to join the project, but I wish you all well. – Fayenatic London 08:25, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I understand about the time thing; it seems like there is so very little of it these days. Pertaining to the never-having-really-used-portals issue, there is a type of portal that you might be interested in looking at: it's a prototype of a new design, using slide shows not only for images, but also for content, to present far more material than previous portals ever could (and more than regular articles too), while always being as up-to-date as the encyclopedia pages it was excerpted from. The selection of material displayed is also automatically updated so as not to fall out-of-date. I would be interested in whether or not you would be inclined to use portals designed like this: Portal:Lithuania. Keep in mind that it is a prototype, and that we don't have all the bugs worked out yet, and the whole concept is likely to be improved upon further. If you find this new portal concept worth commenting on, I'd be interested in learning what you think of it. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   08:51, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
P.S.: Please {{ping}} me if you reply. Thank you. -TT

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).


Administrator changes

added Sro23
readded KaisaLYmblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
  • Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

SoP vs. Palestinian Territories[edit]

Hi. I reverted a bunch of category changes to terrorism cats you've made since, to the best of my understanding, while we do refer to areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority as State of Palestine - we generally do not classify Jewish settlements (under full Israeli control) as such - and most of the incidents you changes were in and around Israeli settlements.Icewhiz (talk) 14:47, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Icewhiz: thank you for explaining your rationale for reverting those edits.
I set up Category:Terrorist incidents in the State of Palestine following consensus at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_9#Palestinian_territories. I apologise for not linking to that discussion in the edit summaries when I populated the category.
Once you have looked at the CFD discussion, please let me know whether you still think the sub-categories and pages for 2013 onward should stay in Category:Terrorist incidents in the Palestinian territories rather than Category:Terrorist incidents in the State of Palestine. – Fayenatic London 22:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
My 2 cents is that they should stay in the Palestinian territories as the state of Palestine has no de facto control over these areas. I see how moving stuff under the PA (areas A and B) makes sense - area C makes less sense to me. However - I do not have a strong opinion here. Would be useful if we have some wider RfC here rather than doing this piecemeal cat by cat.Icewhiz (talk) 06:51, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@Icewhiz: The CFD envisages a further discussion being necessary re politics and history categories. Meanwhile I suggest that your point be side-stepped by
  1. moving Category:Terrorist incidents in the West Bank in 2013 and later years from PT to SoP,
  2. not categorising articles directly in PT/SoP if they are in a West Bank category.
Is that acceptable to you? – Fayenatic London 07:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
That's OK.Icewhiz (talk) 07:53, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Well done![edit]

It's not often that someone takes the time to fix an 11+ year old wiki-syntax typo like you found on my edit (diff ) to WP:ODM. Back in the day we edited raw syntax uphill both ways and the visual editor was a pipe dream. Great job and attention to detail, WP:Gnome! — MrDolomite • Talk 00:20, 14 August 2018 (UTC)