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14 October 2016


that the brutalist term comedy might impinge upon the subtle and nuanced british humour (being an australian with divided cultural allegiances to british and american versions of things funny and not), but can only use 'comedy' for portal and project. oh well, good to see you are cleaning up from the march cfd JarrahTree 08:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Yes, well I'm linking to the Humour portal just in case anyone ever splits it from Comedy. Feel free! – Fayenatic London 08:44, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
oh dear, no I do not feel a humour portal is in my scope of easy will do tonight tasks... JarrahTree 09:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Anyway, that was fun. As you might hope. – Fayenatic London 21:26, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
you have mail JarrahTree 10:49, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Film categories[edit]

Hi. Please stop removing the top-level film by country category, such as in this edit. All films should have the top-level country category, per WP:FILMCAT. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:09, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Lugnuts: thanks for the note; well done for spotting my error. This is news to me, so if I have broken the conventions agreed by WikiProject Film, please forgive me. However, I find the section WP:FILMCAT#Most specific categories very confusing as to what it is getting at. If it means what you say, then perhaps it means that a film should be in e.g. the (non-diffusing) nationality category Russian films, the (non-diffusing) genre categories Comedy films, Horror films, and the most specific Russian horror comedy films, but not the intermediate categories e.g. Russian comedy films. Please get this clarified. Template:Non-diffusing parent category should then be added to those categories that are non-diffusing. – Fayenatic London 19:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi FL. All the top-level country categories are meant to be non-diffusing. And using the Ukraine as an example, Category:Ukrainian comedy films, is NOT a sub-cat of Category:Ukrainian films, but a sub of Category:Ukrainian films by genre. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:40, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
I have raised this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Categorization#Articles in parent categories as well as sub-categories. – Fayenatic London 08:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Guest of honour listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For nine months of work on BC births and deaths categorizations. Very impressive, and an amazing job! Enterprisey (talk!(formerly APerson) 02:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi Enterprisey, thanks very much! This time around I did feel I deserved a thank-you from someone. Your award motivated me to clean up even more today, improving the navigation templates, and ensuring that the Wikidata links were all back in place (thankfully, other people had already done most of the latter). Cheers! – Fayenatic London 22:26, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

File:YesAsia logo.gif listed for discussion[edit]


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Comic Book Character infobox addition help request[edit]

Hey I wanted to make an addition to the comic book character info box template and was wondering if you could help me or point me in the right direction to make it happen? I wanted to add a relatives section to it since real people also have them on their info boxes so why why not comic book characters as well? What do you think? and how can I make it happen? I've been looking for someone who can help me make this a reality and was hoping it was you so what do you say?

Fluffyroll11 (talk) 18:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I see you have already gone on to make your request at the template talk page, which is what I would have suggested. If nobody responds there within a few days, take it to WT:COMICS, or perhaps Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters. – Fayenatic London 19:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Bot Request for CfD[edit]

Hello Fayenatic london, a discussion regarding a new bot task related to WP:CFD is open at: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SSTbot 2. I thought you may have some insight that could help the discussion. If you are interested, please stop by and comment. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 23:52, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Hillary listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Film speculative fiction closure[edit]

You've given me credit for a premature category move and I just want to set the record straight that the move was by Arbnos (see Category:Film speculative fiction for log). Would you mind updating the closure message? Ibadibam (talk) 01:08, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ibadibam: Sorry about that; I've corrected the record. – Fayenatic London 07:17, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
My thanks! Ibadibam (talk) 18:24, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Categories Ciney Hamlets and Villages[edit]

See: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 September 22.

Made Category:Sub-municipalities of Ciney. Wwikix (talk) 11:22, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hijama Edit[edit]

HijamaFacts (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2016 (UTC) How is the only current authorized hijama training course not relevant to the subject of hijama. This training program is the highest authority on this subject. Hope you restore. Thanks

You would have to provide independent citations for these assertions. Following the links, it appears that the practitioner claims to be the first authorised Ijazah (licensed) trainer in the West, but he was trained in Syria and Turkey, so presumably there remain higher authorities on the subject there. – Fayenatic London 22:47, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For telling about Category:Ciney Villages and what should have been done. Thank you for the knowledge! Pyrusca (talk) 22:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, Pyrusca! (For the record: this refers to Category talk:Sub-municipalities of Ciney, a CFD and two user talk pages linked from there.) – Fayenatic London 07:12, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Remote islands[edit]

Hi Fayenatic, you are probably right. I am an inclusionist, but am finding that Wikipedia is infested by deletionists who have no appreciation for whimsy, or other defects in their eyes. At some point they will succeed in driving me away. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 19:07, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin: I started off that way, feeling bad about deletion of stuff that people had worked on in good faith. However (as I wrote somewhere on my user page), after a time I came round to see that removing some stuff makes for a better encyclopedia. I hope you can come to accept that while still wanting to contribute. Best wishes – Fayenatic London 20:11, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
If i may comment, it is quite difficult to decide on the 3 lines between outright delete, the "debatable" zone, and definitely keep zone. I find myself in the debatable zone. Yes, I want wikipedia to be a compendium where anyone can easily find information, (almost like a all-in-one High-quality version of Google and others) but some articles I struggle with including. Yes, its a contradiction but I find it hard to accept. Pyrusca (talk) 23:30, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Well, that's why we have objective guidelines on what to keep, such as WP:Notability and WP:Overcategorization, and places where we can discuss how to apply them such as WP:AfD and WP:CfD. It's all done by consensus. – Fayenatic London 16:13, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you[edit]

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^easy sorted one. Pyrusca (talk) 02:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Confusing edit[edit]

Please see here What is the distinction between these two categories? Why recategorize? If you respond here, please use {{Ping}}. —Justin (koavf)TCM 13:27, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

@Koavf: Sorry for not leaving an explanation in the edit summary; if you hadn't come here, you would have to go as far as the talk pages (Category talk:Bibliographies or Category talk:Wikipedia bibliographies) to find the explanation. I was splitting the parent category to a new sub-cat, to implement an old CFD consensus which had been languishing for months at WP:CFDWM. The CFD nomination was incomplete, but I expect that it will be followed by nominating Category:Published bibliographies for upmerging to Bibliographies, following the new pattern at Glossaries or Timelines, per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_June_22#Wikipedia indexes, glossaries, outlines, timelines, and bibliographies. – Fayenatic London 20:33, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Also what does |Writer Nationality do to the appearance other than take up space? Pyrusca (talk) 13:46, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
@Pyrusca: At least that one is easier to justify. It's a sort key. The old sort key that I found already in place was "Author nationality". As the current category name is Bibliographies by writer nationality, "Writer nationality" makes more sense as a sort key. Given that the parent has few sub-cats, I accept that it doesn't do much, and that just "|A" would suffice, but if there is any sort key then it should reflect the category's current name. – Fayenatic London 20:33, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Wwikix[edit]

You might want to go to the bottom post on his page. Pyrusca (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Well... you suggested it! – Fayenatic London 19:10, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

well, I should have kepth my mouth shut. Pyrusca (talk) 22:28, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Province geo stubs[edit]

Hi Fayenatic london, Why are you playing with geo-stubs ? Previously you haven't explained your rationale and still you're reverting my edits. Please don't unless you have solid reason to do it. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:11, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

@Nedim Ardoğa: I have explained at length on your talk page at User talk:Nedim Ardoğa#Merged stub templates for Marmara region, and in my edit summaries when reverting those template pages. Do you know how to read the history of pages, to see the explanations given for past edits? – Fayenatic London 20:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I've asked you a very naive question. There are geo stubs for whole world, for countries, for regions and for provinces. Do have a rule to omit province stubs ? If so I have no objection. But it so happens that there are still many province stubs in WP. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:36, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
@Nedim Ardoğa: There was a discussion of the categories for several provinces at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_July_12#Undersized_Turkey_geography_stub_categories, because the categories for these provinces had small numbers of pages. It is general practice to have a separate stub category only if there are more than 60 pages in it. The consensus in that discussion was to merge the stub templates as well as the categories. However, it was only necessary to merge the categories, and the participants may not have carefully considered whether the stub templates should have been kept. I don't think there is any general rule against having separate stub templates for provinces that have only a few stubs, but we won't keep the categories for small numbers. So, you are welcome to do this,[1] provided you follow it with this [2]. Please let me know whether I've explained it clearly this time. – Fayenatic London 20:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC)