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Can you help out?[edit]

I noticed that Indian Railways is under featured article review here and may be demoted. It needs some help, especially with citations, both tagged and paragraphs that have no inline citations. If it is in your area, perhaps you are able to get your hands on some appropriate books that would help. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 21:47, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Although I have some material, it will take some time to get up to speed. An important subject.Fconaway (talk) 05:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
If you think you can help out, your should drop a comment on the review page as they are likely to close it quite soon and may extend it if they think someone is actively working on it. It has been open for 2 months so far but usually a month is the norm. Good luck. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 06:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Agustín Stahl[edit]

Thank you for your expantion of the introduction. Look, let's work together on this and keep the template in the written works section where it looks better and does not not create a distraction of the introduction. Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's okay in either place. Stahl deserves more notice, so I hope you can find more material. The article has been neglected. Fconaway (talk) 06:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

British Guiana 1c magenta[edit]

I was just wondering why the bracketed r at the start of the article? "The British Guiana 1c magenta is "[r]egarded by many as the world's most famous stamp." Thanks. Maidonian (talk) 10:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a quote, so should be as quoted. ww2censor (talk) 14:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I still don't understand. I have the same book and in mine it simply reads "Regarded by many as the world's most famous stamp." as a complete sentence with a capital R but no brackets. Why are there brackets either side of the R? Please enlighten me. Maidonian (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Let's just wait for Floyd's reply, maybe he has a different edition. I don't have the book to refer to directly. ww2censor (talk) 15:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Perfectly happy to wait, it just looks odd in the first sentence on one of the most important philatelic pages on the site, thats all. Maidonian (talk) 15:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I just now saw your note. You seem to have answered the question ("Why?") already. The source says,

"Regarded by many as the world's most famous stamp."

This is not a complete sentence, so the article added a noun and a verb to the quotation, to make it readable:

"The British Guiana 1c magenta is "[r]egarded by many as the world's most famous stamp."

When we work something like this into a sentence, we need to replace the capital 'R' with a small 'r'. Otherwise it would be very awkward. It is customary to put brackets around what has been changed so that the reader will know that has been altered. Fconaway (talk) 01:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

By the way, if the bracket troubles you, perhaps the quotation marks and the brackets could be removed. The footnote would serve to document the opinion expressed in the statement. Personally, I feel any such "wow" rating is foolish. It's kind of like tagging "the greatest composer", "the worst of the worst gangsters" or "the best architect". Opinions will vary. It would be better to explain why the stamp is famous. It is a famous stamp, one among many. Fconaway (talk) 02:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand your logic. I think it is a complete sentence even if it's not good English. In any case, I agree the quote is not particularly helpful. It is also probably wrong as the Penny Black must be more famous. The start can be re-written just to say it is one of the great rarities of philately or something similar. Rarity, after all, is a matter of fact whereas fame is more subjective. Maidonian (talk) 18:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The stamp is unique (probably), which is more than rare, and it has an interesting story that goes with it. The really expensive, legendary and rare stamps seem to have colorful stories, such as "someone was murdered because another collector wanted the stamp." Or, "the governor's daughter needed some stamps to send out invitations to a ball". This is the philatelists' "lore", which enhances the value of some stamps beyond what other stamps of equal rarity will command. Fconaway (talk) 22:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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Just now noticed this — I'm still on a break because of other commitments (to clients, in my so-called "retirement"), so my attention is scattered. Didn't notice anything on your Talk page, so maybe it has been archived. Fconaway (talk) 07:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
You are correct, but here is the link to the discussion I referred to. ww2censor (talk) 15:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
That discussion seems to be completed: ":::Yes, this makes good sense. Fconaway (talk) 02:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Indeed ww2censor (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


Do you think it would be alright for me to close this case now? Steve Crossin Talk/24 07:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


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About the killer cancellation[edit]

Just to tell you that I found your post on ww2censor's page most instructive. Wow, you really are a serious postal historian. Thanks for educating me. AshLin (talk) 07:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. You sure picked up on that quickly! I don't know whether the scan could be useful to illustrate the idea of a "killer" (everybody seems to have his or her own idea about what a "killer" is) but I simply came across it when I was looking through my stuff. It has an interesting story to tell.
Originally I thought the "All India" cancellations (1873 onward) would be good, because they are heavy and cover most of the stamp. On second thought they were designed to show very clearly where each letter originated. A "killer" is a cancellation that shows no place, date or time of mailing, but which is heavy enough to prevent the stamp's reuse. There are lots of these on the early Indian and Straits stamps. Fconaway (talk) 08:15, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I added this to the killer talk page: "Based both on my experience and on this this Linn's articles, your definition on the killer talk page is too narrow." ww2censor (talk) 18:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Can you assist?[edit]

I have started an "airmail stamp" article at User:Ww2censor/Sandbox1. Maybe you can help out. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 18:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

An Indian article[edit]

I found Main road town which is completely unreferenced but I could not find any confirming sources. Is this a proper term, or even a hoax? ww2censor (talk) 19:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

The term is new to me. I've never lived in India, so I don't know whether the term is in widespread use; but the article claims that a town along a highway has "better basic amenities [as] compared to [those of] typical villages." Many WP articles about various towns in India claim that when a promised highway eventually reaches them, all will be well and prosperous (expansion when geared into the larger economy). Of course, the town will lose its enclave, and those who depend on local custom will have to change occupations. It's an old issue in India; Gandhi's spinning wheel was emblematic of rebuilding the local, traditional economy.
Actually, "main road town" might apply very well to many places in the United States, which have little else to recommend them. When superhighways replace the main roads, they are left in the dust like modern ghost towns.Fconaway (talk) 19:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

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Sambhaji Brigade the Facist Nazi organisation as it needs to be presented as reported in newspapers[edit]

How does one write a article for JeM, LeT, PWG or Hizbul? does one have an article on wikipedia which puts their side, propoganda and ideology with all the support and glorification of violence? Well these organisations need to be portryed what people think of them and not the alleged supporters and members wish to write about them. So one sided article will mean that you have people writing in favor of them, and you call vandalism if anyone tries to put an article on its observation of activities of these organisations??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BostonPunekar (talkcontribs) 16:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The article is about only one group, whether we like them or not. It is not about JeM, LeT, PWG or Hizbul, and what we think of them is not relevant. We cannot have an article which simply presents propaganda for or against Sambhaji Brigade or any other group. Instead of casting epithets, describe their activities, what they say and what they do. Denouncing them or adoring them is not what Wikipedia is about. We are an encyclopedia: instead of opinion, we aim to present information in an even-handed way. Every editor is required to support his edits by identifying a reliable source (WP:RS) for an edit, with a citation which others can see and verify. That is, present unbiased evidence. You must meet that test when you edit for Wikipedia. Fconaway (talk) 19:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Informal Mediation from WP:MEDCAB[edit]

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Hi, Thankyou I will sort it out. --Fast track (talk) 19:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It is the AFIC University based in the city of Rawalpindi, Pakistan. It is quite well known hence I used it is as a temporary image for the city --Fast track (talk) 21:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the identification, which would not be obvious to most readers of Wikipedia. Now to presenting the caption: this seems to be a generic problem. The 'Infobox City Pakistan' doesn't seem to allow an image caption. For example, the Multan article uses 'Infobox City Pakistan', and its image doesn't have a caption. Those cities which use 'Infobox settlement' such as Islamabad and Karachi do have captions.Fconaway (talk) 22:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


Could you please check the talk page of the article again, the guy is using pure original research and baseless conclusions, reached through random facts, and is propogating that as the truth. thanks Tikka Sangram Singh (talk) 19:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is WP:OR. It seems overblown, speculative, and not well grounded in logic or fact (even if original research were allowable). The claim of an "academic consensus" on thia had no reliable source, but now it is presented as an "academic opinion". There's nothing academic about it. I've seen this sort of thing on several other pages, as well. In one case ("Battle of the Median Border") when WP:OR was removed almost nothing remained.

Can any secure knowledge of Porus ever be had? The basic texts are Greek, written well after the events by people who were not there, with a "slant". Likewise, Tod's work is that of a British (EIC) military "intelligence" officer with an axe to grind. There's not much. I'm trying to find a reliable "secondary" source. Fconaway (talk) 06:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Well to be honest to you it is common knowledge here that he was an ancestor of the Katoch Rajas of Kangra, i'm in contact with the son of Maharaja Aditya Dev Chand Katoch and this is the information i got from him -

1] Potolomi the official scribe of Alexander the Great's records. 2] Any Kangra District Gazzeettere of befor 1947. 3] Maharaja Sansar Chand recorded history states that " He possesed a brass plate of the treaty between Porus and Alexander" This was officially seen and recorded by Col. O.Brian. 4] Col. Cunnigham also recorded the same to be in the posession of Maharaja Jai Chand. Cunnigham was the official British Officer incharge of recording the history of the Punjab Hill States, similar to Col.Todd in Rajputana. 5] Porus the actual word has no ref. in Sanskrit or modern day history. But PHEGUS a title given to my ancestor by Alexander which ment MOUNTAIN LION in the Greek Language has been distorted over the period of time to Porus. 6] Read Dr. P.N Oak's correction of Indian History.

Also note that there is NO SANNI Raja in the Punjab, there never was. I can mail you hard copies of the ref. material we have. Kindly ask the Sanni that he is refering to material of the Rajputana which had nothing to do with Alexander & the 1st records of the Rajputana are of the 3rd cent AD 400YEARS after Porus. Also there exists a Temple in Indora Kangra which has a figure of a Greek Godess [ today prayed to as a Devi / Shakti ] built by Alexanders cousin who was married to Porus's younger son. I dont think a single Sanni has even visited this temple. Traditionally the Beas belt has always been under the control of the Katoch Dynasty and it is from here that Alexander turned back, no Sanni ever ruled this area. This is the same River where Alexander fought Porus, why would he call him MOUNTAIN Lion if Porus was not from the Mountains. The Mountain valley above the Beas has ALWAYS BEEN RULED BY THE KATOCH, so where do the Sanni's fit in. The Mughal court From the time of Barbur have mentained & mentioned in their record's that the Katoch Family has always ruled this region from the time's of unrecorded history. That is why the conquest of Kangra was considered to be of major importance.

Also chk out, Katochgarh Multan [Pakistan], even after the Muslim invasion and till date the oldest city of ASIA has a fort called Katochgarh. Ask the SAINIS to disprove this. As they might argue with you that the Katoch Empire did not exceed the Beas boundries. TRIGARTHA, JULLANDHRA and MULTAN have been historically recorded as KATOCH Kingdoms. The Mythiological claim of the clan is KUTCH-KHADI-MULTAN which means from LEH TO KARANCHI.


Lets see if we can make something out of this, although in most books on Kangra it is mentioned that the Col. was presented with a potrait of Alexander by Maharaja Sansar Chand II's son Anirudh Chand who was a contemprary of Ranjit Singh. About the Greek Goddess, i posted a link to the book that mentions it on the talk page of the article Saini. Thankyou :) Tikka Sangram Singh (talk) 19:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Robert Forester Mushet[edit]

I was wondering why you deleted the categories 'People From The Forest of Dean' and 'People From Gloucestershire' from this page? They seem perfectly reasonable categories to me.--Obscurasky (talk) 15:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I restored both of these categories -- see here. They had been deleted by DShamen on August 11. Now I see someone else has again deleted them. There seems to be a logical issue here: see WP:CAT, which I haven't fully understood. It seems Coleford would be included, automatically, in both Forest of Dean and Gloucestershire. Ever smaller categories!Fconaway (talk) 17:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for clearing that up. Obscurasky (talk) 23:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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Postal convention states of India[edit]

Hi FConaway,

I have developed this article from scratch to its present stage. I 'm short of good sources. I wonder if you have any sources and/or interesting philatelic material to add to the article. I've been promised to be allowed to scan more stamps of convention states soon. I'd appreciate help of any kind on this article so that it could be brought upto GA in the near future. AshLin (talk) 20:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this! Your illustration of one of the Alizah Press overprints for Gwalior is a nice touch. The Convention States have been a difficult and complex area, with so many type varieties (and fakes). This will be a real service to Indian philately. Congratulations! Fconaway (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
There's a curious overprint for Jaipur, not found in the standard catalogs. It is believed to have originated from the Public Works department. It might be considered a local overprint, rather than a convention states stamp, although it is found in two colors overprinted on a British India issue (in this respect, like the Convention States issues). I will endeavor to get a good illustration and a related article from Princely States Report. "Princely States Report" has an article by David Heppell, at <> which says these were overprinted by the Public Works Department of Jaipur, for security -- much as private companies often overprinted their initials to discourage any misuse of their postage. However, the "composite" illustration in Heppell's article does not have a full stop after "Service." My collection includes an original overprinted stamp with the "full stop" after Service. Fconaway (talk) 23:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in replying. A javascript was preventing me from editing since yesterday. I had to get rid of everything in my gadgets to be able to edit. Firstly, thank you for the kind words, coming from a reputed philatelist and editor it means a lot to me. I'm very happy you liked the article. Secondly, my boss who is a very nice guy and has a nice collection of British India and convention states rekindled my childhood interest in philately.
He has promised me more stamps from each convention state to scan. The aim is to provide a gallery for each of the states. I also plan to add later on a section on errors and varieties as well as one on watermarks and typescripts/overprints. My boss has provided me with Stewart-Wilson's two ninteenth century pamphlets on convention states which he has kindly allowed me to upload to You can find the links in the reference section.
May I request that you to kindly add information from any other resource you may have. I am fast running out of reference material. Your Jaipur stamp sounds very interesting. It appears to be an oddity or artefact. Perhaps you may like to add this information and the stamp image, propoerly referenced to Wikipedia. AshLin (talk) 06:54, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
You have done all of us an extraordinary service by uploading the two vols. by Stewart-Wilson, which were in danger of becoming unavailable. I know that was hard work, justified only by the significance of Stewart-Wilson's publication, a pioneering work for 1887 and 1888! The 1904 revised edition was cited in the Wikipedia article on Postage Stamps and Postal History of India. Fconaway (talk) 09:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

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Unreliable Source in History_of_medicine[edit]


I've detailed the material behind my edit to History of Medicine on the talk page, Talk:History_of_medicine. I will add similar article talk messages to accompany my deletions as I work through other pages with similar sourcing issues. Dialectric (talk) 01:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the explanation for your edit. Without that discussion, your deletion seemed to be arbitrary or POV.Fconaway (talk) 05:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Discrepancies in years[edit]

Hi there,

I recently borrowed a copy of Jal Cooper's Stamps of India (1968 i.e. third ed). On page 176 it has a table with years of issue & discontinuance for stamps of Indian States.

Seeing that you are the major contributor to Postage_stamps_and_postal_history_of_India, I wanted to know if you had added the table of Indian native & feudatory states. There are some discrepancies. For example, Alwar. The wiki article lists Alwar's period as 1877-1899. Jal Cooper gives it as 1877 as year of issue and 1902 as the year of discontinuance. I presume your period reflects the dates of first and last stamp issue while Cooper's date lists the year of discontinuation when the stamps were no longer considered as valid.

However, the table data is not referenced. Can you tell me where you got the information? If its Stanley Gibbons, a note to that effect will help clarify the issue for readers.

AshLin (talk) 22:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for adding interesting material to the page Dasara. However, it has previously been agreed to use that page as a disambiguation i.e. index page; see Talk:Dasara. Such pages should not have references or illustrations. Please would you move the additional content either to Navratri or Vijayadashami as appropriate? – Fayenatic London 20:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Not sure what is at issue here, or why Dasara should be a disambiguation page, so I have removed my edits. It seems rather bland, as is, saying only that Dasara is an important celebration. Obviously, it is more than that, and it must have a history. Do you have any suggestions?Fconaway (talk) 00:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
As the meaning varies, meaning a single day in some places and two weeks in others, it seemed best to avoid duplication, contradiction or WP:content forking by keeping the content just on the two pages Navratri, about the festival as a whole, and Vijayadashami about the 10th day. At present the page Vijayadashami does include an overview of Dasara celebrations in different parts of India, so I suppose that whole section should be moved to Navratri, leaving Vijayadashami to concentrate on the 10th day. Or can you find a way to distinguish what should be on a third page "Dasara"? – Fayenatic London 12:32, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I do not know whether Dasara, or its analogs, which are found all over India, are an observance comparable to Easter or Passover, but in my opinion the present treatment diminishes their significance.Fconaway (talk) 21:22, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Would this be better?
Perhaps some spellings e.g. Dussehra could redirect to Vijayadashami rather than Navratri. – Fayenatic London 19:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


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Thanks! Try to put it out today.--Stone (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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It is not a good idea to simply apply citation bot to a range of articles without checking what it does - the bot still has many bugs and while adding some details, breaks others (just one example [3], but I saw too many recently, which is why this post). I use it only in the "edit mode", i.e. edit the code, apply the bot and look at the changes. Materialscientist (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I also use the bot in "edit mode", and read through the results. You will see that I sometimes revert the edits if they don't look right. I never apply the bot to a range of articles, but often I find a related subject in the editing. If I have allowed a bad edit, I will have to be more careful. Thanks for alerting me! Fconaway (talk) 03:46, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Saola sighting[edit]

Hello Fconaway. :-D
One of the weird things I find on Wikipedia is that I go to a page to update it and at exactly the same time, another editor beats me to it! :-o

This is what not-quite-just-happened with the Saola. When I started checking the page to see if it had been updated, you hadn't added the info about the recent sighting. By the time I had checked, (admit I got side tracked checking out at a string of edits in October that doubled the pages size) you had already done the update! Here's my source if it's of any interest [4], now ≈8 hours old.

Maybe it's worth pointing out this is the first Saola sighting in 15 years?

Happy editing! 220 of Borg 11:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the British are ahead of us, chronologically, and I just happened to notice it. It is an AP story, which hasn't hit the US media yet.

I put the item up for WikiNews, also. It is newsworthy, even though the animal was photographed in September, actually. So far we don't have an explanation for the delay of the story for over a month.

It seems the animal has not been seen alive, in the wild, more recently than 15 years ago. However, it seems others, neither alive nor in the wild, have been seen. I'm guessing more information will be forthcoming.Fconaway (talk) 11:39, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

removing poor sourced content on 'asiatic lion '[edit]

hello fconway,

"On 31 January 2014, an Asiatic lion was spotted in the Deva Vatala National Park, located in Azad Jammu and Kashmir, Pakistan.[13],"

this information is not valid because asiatic lion's last wild population is in gir forest,gujrat india. this information doesn't describe exactly they describe about roar and both lion and leopard roar so they may be spotted indian leopard. because leopard have range in both india and pakistan but about asiatic lion,this is only single isolated population in gir forest gujrat. there is not such information i got in wwfpakistan and iucn so my request is remove this content from asiatic lion page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winanddie (talkcontribs) 19:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I will remove the line from the text, for now, pending verification from other sources. The cited source is from a journalist's interview with Chaudhry Mohammad Razzaq, wildlife and fisheries department director of Azad Jammu Kashmir. He said the Asiatic lion, Panthera leo persica, has been reported from Deva Vatala National Park repeatedly over the last five years. Most recently, on January 31 2014, it was reported being seen twice by two people, including a trained wildlife observer, once at very close range. If these reports can be confirmed, they are of great significance, as an indication that the lions have maintained a separate population.
Asiatic lions are living outside the Gir forest, not only in zoos. They are in four separate areas, three of which are outside of the Gir Forest protected area. Also, last year the Supreme Court of India ordered the relocation of a group of lions to Madhya Pradesh, which was to have been completed by now (i.e., within six months from the date of the decision). At least one other wild population is needed for population safety, for maximizing genetic diversity, and in terms of ecology (re-establishing the lion as a component of the fauna in its former range). Although Junagadh has done the cats a great service by maintaining them and fostering their recovery, the lions today remain vulnerable to unexpected events such as a disease epidemic or forest fires.( "Panthera leo ssp persica 2013.2", The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. On line.) Fconaway (talk) 01:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG Thanks for cleaning up Robert A. Brady (economist). You removed a mention of his wife, which I re-added with references since you prompted me. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:56, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I do love coffee! Fconaway (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Deccan Wars[edit]

Any comments on the recent IP edits? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Murli Manohar Joshi[edit]

Greetings. You may have noticed that I just undid your edit on Murli Manohar Joshi. You sectioned off the some of the references, and also removed one external link. The edit summary said "citation," and I was not entirely sure what that meant. If there was a good reason for it, then sincere apologies, and I'd be happy to hear it; if it was an accident, then no worries. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:37, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Apologies for the much delayed message; apparently my internet is broken. I attempted to send this about 8 hours ago, and it didn't save. In any case, I saw your latest revert, which is fine by me; I only wish your edit summary had been a little clearer. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:37, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
This was an effort to restore a broken link. In the process, it was noticed that several bibliographic references had been listed incorrectly as references. They are, potentially, resources.Fconaway (talk) 02:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Capture of the Anne[edit]

Thank you for your work there. - Caribbean~H.Q. 14:53, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

De nada! The Anne
That's quite a story. It really needed a little love to give it lustre.Fconaway (talk) 16:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your additions to Paolo Andreani. I came to give you thanks and then saw that your talk page is full of other editors doing the same. Well done. Victuallers (talk) 07:03, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Paolo Andreani[edit]

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Bugwah, Bangladesh[edit]

Hi Fconaway, I have a question about an article you created in October 2011, Bugwah. It cites no sources. The article says it's a town in Rajshahi Division, although the coordinates in the article became part of newly formed Rangpur Division in 2010. The coordinates suggest that it's in Kurigram District, but I'm unable to locate it in the 2011 census table for that district, through GeoNames Search, on Google maps, on OpenStreetMaps, on the Kurigram Sadar Upazila or Ulipur Upazila local government engineering department maps, on (e.g. British India gazetteers), in Banglapedia, or on the Bengali-language Wikipedia. So what is your source for the existence of this place? Worldbruce (talk) 06:24, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

This is an old post office location, found in P.D. Allen's list, at Countries/IndiaandStates.htm

Rajshahi division may have been superceded; on maps it appears to be almost due east of Rangpur. Latitude in decimal degrees : 25.716667 Longitude in decimal degrees : 89.716667

"The information regarding Bugwah in Bangladesh on this page is published from the data supplied by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a member of the Intelligence community of the United States of America, and a Department of Defense (DoD) Combat Support Agency."

They then print this disclaimer: "No claims are made regarding the accuracy of Bugwah information contained here."Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@Fconaway: Thanks! With that additional information I found that the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency records "Bugwah" as a variant of "Bagua, Anantapur", which is a village in Hatia Union, Ulipur Upazila, Kurigram District, Rangpur Division, Bangladesh, very close to the coordinates in the article. Anantapur appears on the upazila maps, and appears on Google maps as Onantapur.
Bagua, Anantapur is quite small, so I'm not sure that it is the same as the early Indian post office using killer cancel 158. There are at least five other Baguas in what is now Bangladesh, some of which seem more likely candidates for a match. Our local philatelic library has a copy of Jal Cooper's Early Indian Cancellations, so I'll check that as soon as I get a chance. Worldbruce (talk) 18:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Good progress! Jal Cooper's Early Indian Cancellations may not have what you are looking for. The latest word on this is Denis R. Martin, Numbers in Early Indian Cancellations, 1855-1884. I would look it up, but my copy is in storage. I hope your library has it. Remember, it must be specifically the B/158 in the Bengal Octagon, or "Bengal spiderweb": that is Renouf's Type [7], which would also be Cooper's Type 7. Renouf, the pioneer, listed this as Bugwah.Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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Scinde Dawk‎ stamps[edit]

Did you see the Scinde Dawk‎ stamp was deleted? I've asked the deleting admin to restore so I can try and rescue it as I'm pretty sure we can find a source or another image. I did not notice it until it was removed from articles I watch after it had been removed. Did you happen to upload the original? I'm off to look for a source. ww2censor (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I believe I did upload the picture, and didn't know of any challenge. Surely there's no copyright problem. I may have some trouble recalling the source, unless the page can be restored. My archives have been jumbled. I'll see what I can find.Fconaway (talk) 21:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
User:Jcb has restored the file but we now need to fill in all the information so it does not get deleted again. ww2censor (talk) 21:54, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
All done mostly by Michael Romanov. If you have anything to add please do so. I could not find any images in my library. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I originally uploaded this image on English-language Wikipedia, with a claim of fair use. I did not say it was Public Domain, because I did not know the original source. The listing said, "2006-09-29 02:40 Fconaway 347×370×8 (48598 bytes) This image is of a postage stamp. The copyright for the original image is unknown, and there may be other restrictions on its reproduction. It is believed that this use of this image is fair use because * used to illustrate the Red Scinde District Dawk". However, the file is now on Commons, where it was uploaded by Magnus Manske in 2007. Today it shows a claim of PD, as it showed a stamp which was a product of the United Kingdom Government, although the Scinde District was established by the British East India Company, itself a limited liability chartered private stock company which had attained de facto governmental status. However, the source shown is a much later (2013) online-newspaper article, which did not mention the source of the image -- I suspect the source was the Wikipedia article itself. The author is identified as Sir Bartle Frere, Chief Commissioner of Scinde, which would be true for the red sealing wax wafer itself, as Frere had a hand in the design. The embossing die was produced by De La Rue in England, but Frere was not the author of the photographic illustration.Fconaway (talk) 07:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I read the file history so was aware of most of that. The stamp itself is more than 100 years old, so as a 2D item it is clearly in the public domain and has no restriction per se. Photographic reproductions of 2D items, like stamps, usually do not acquire a new copyright so worrying about that was not necessary, so, your original fair use reasoning was not actually valid. Whether it was originally copyright of the United Kingdom Government or the East India Company is rather academic due to its age. UK government work is crown copyright for 50 years and normal corporate work is 70 years, so we are way past that on each count. If you can determine exactly who was the original copyright holder that info would be great but I doubt we shall ever really be sure. If you can read Italian, maybe this article can shed some further light on the topic. I might even upload the image as it seem like a rather clean example. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 09:52, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
The source of that scan was the Sandafayre web page, specifically their Rare Stamps Gallery page, here: However, Sandafayre has not identified their sources). If it is needed, I have an alternative Red Scinde Dawk scan which is expertised and well documented.Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Actually the current Sandafayre stamp is quite different from the restored stamp you originally uploaded. Maybe they changed it. More versions of rare stamps are always good, so if you can please upload it please do so and I will upload the three (a red, blue and white/yellow (?) one) that are on that Italian article. Actually the Sanfafayre stamp is already uploaded as File:Scinde A3.jpg and Micheal Romanov uploaded File:Red Scinde Dawk stamp x-cancelled.jpg yesterday so we now have 3 copies. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 09:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
The Sandafayre page has several Dawks. The one uploaded from that site in 2006 is also shown in their "Rare Stamps Gallery" even today (down in the page). There were several good didactic reasons to use that specific image, as it shows the embossing on wax, the usual Scinde diamond of dots cancellation (all of the known Red Dawks are cancelled, but several appear to have been cleaned or re-backed), has excellent color, and has not been cracked or defaced. We find two distinct shades of the Blue Dawk, and should have an image of each. Fconaway (talk) 14:38, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry I missed the other stamps on that page and assumed there was just the one I immediately saw, so scrub my earlier remarks. So much for quick fingers and not thinking! We should really just upload all the copies they have and any others we find. You would know better than I what work might have been done on any of the other stamps. Thanks

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Linking things in the lead[edit]

Hi! About this edit "Abbasia" may be linked elsewhere in the article, but it should also be linked in the first instance it occurs, i.e. in the lead. Otherwise people skimming the lead may believe there is no article about "Abbasia". WhisperToMe (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

The link has been restored. However, my understanding is that the lead summarizes the rest of the article, so that the first mention after the lead would be linked. Is this incorrect?Fconaway (talk) 10:57, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section does say "Where uncommon terms are essential, they should be placed in context, linked and briefly defined." and also "The opening sentence should provide links to the broader or more elementary topics that are important to the article's topic or place it into the context where it is notable. For example, an article about a building or location should include a link to the broader geographical area of which it is a part." but it also says "Do not, however, add contextual links that don't relate directly to the topic's definition or reason for notability." - I do think though that the neighborhood is important for context especially if people are studying Beirut as a whole (likewise locations in New York, London, Los Angeles, Paris, etc. may emphasize the district or neighborhood) WhisperToMe (talk) 14:40, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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