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Problematic IP editor[edit]

Hi there. Last April, you blocked an IP editor for a week for dumping huge amounts of data in demography articles, often with formatting and sourcing problems, as discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive920#178.217.194.100's long-term edit warring and continued addition of unsourced statistics. I've just noticed that the editor seems to have resumed this behaviour since the block. I need to look into the edits in more detail (there are a lot of them), but your thoughts would be welcome. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:39, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cordless Larry, I can see they're still making a lot of edits to demography articles - are these recent edits disruptive? This issue of what information should be included in demographics articles and in what format may benefit from drawing up some proposed guidelines and a wider discussion at the village pump. Thanks, Fences&Windows 14:33, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I still need to investigate the edits further (sorry - I got distracted with other things). It does at least appear that the IP's more recent additions are sourced. I agree that a wider discussion would be worthwhile. Pinging Jolly Janner, who has been involved in this case previously and might also have a view on this. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:43, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
One of the original issues was the IP's refusal to format numbers correctly, despite numerous warnings, and this appears to still be the case with some edits. Here, they get the number format right, but don't cite a source. For many of the other edits, it's hard to tell if the figures are supported by the sources. Take this, for instance. There are five sources cited below that table, so it's hard to know where to look. I doubt that the IP is making up these figures, but the nature of the data dumps makes it very difficult to verify anything. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:46, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography#Vital statistics tables in country demography articles to try to gather views on the inclusion of large vital statistics tables. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:15, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Requesting userfication[edit]

Hello, Fences and windows, I am trying to request access to deleted page, please? I found your username on the page Category:Wikipedia_administrators_willing_to_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles of those willing to provide copies of deleted articles.... only requesting so I can retain content and reference links, etc. Obra Architects is the page in question. [overzealous writer and new user, but if possible I'd like the content to either work on it or reconsider, only to retrieve content please, if possible] I appreciate your help. Thanks, J.seoulJ.seoul (talk) 15:57, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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Your edit on Ruthenia[edit]

You should already be familiar with WP:NONENG. In fact, if you check the latest editing history, you may have noticed that, not only have I had only just expanded the refs and verified them to be correct (here. If you are so dubious of my integrity that you feel compelled to tag variants for 'fact', please ask Ymblanter (or another Russian speaker) to double check. Thank you. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 09:34, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Iryna Harpy - it's not a question of your integrity - Cram101/CTI Reviews copies its information from Wikipedia so it is unquestionably not a reliable source. You cannot verify that source as this is WP:CIRCULAR referencing and your own knowledge of Russian cannot be used as a reference. Someone decided to cite those Cyrillic versions with that source, but it cannot be used so needs to be replaced. Fences&Windows 11:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Iryna Harpy, please compare the source to the lead of Kievan Rus'. I've removed it again, please don't restore it. Cram101 rely on duping people, as with other similar "book" publishers, and we need to be wary. Fences&Windows 11:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
I've now understood why you referred to WP:NONENG. The reference I removed that supposedly directly supported the Cyrillic names is in English, a direct copy of a Wikipedia article. Another reference, now reference 1, is in Cyrillic and was cited at the end of the alternative names, seemingly to support other Latin names. If that reference actually also supports those Cyrillic names, that's fine. I already understood we can use non-English sources and I was never questioning this. Fences&Windows 12:00, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Fences and Windows. My apologies for my own mistake. It was the last edit of the night, and I'm in the midst of moving (setting up my place for photos pre-auction, whilst juggling the finalisation of the new place): it's a poor excuse for making such silly errors, but it happened.
The ludicrous part is that I was thinking of removing the Cram101 reference myself as I've encountered that series in other articles in the past... and have removed it as CIRC! As for the lead of the Kievan Rus' article, I should have recognised it as an incarnation of the lead as I also work on that article. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.
As regards the Russian, Ukrainian and Polish sources, it's nigh on impossible to find English language sources for some of the details. My intention is to grab the relevant quotes and translate them into English when I have a little more time. It will make for somewhat cumbersome intext references, but it will at least serve as a stamp of being verified and translated by a hooman bean. I'm still on the prowl for quality English language texts for an article in desperate need of more RS. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Cool. It's great to be able to add sources from non-English sources, we definitely miss out on a lot of knowledge when we only use what's written in English. Fences&Windows 21:11, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. I do, however, prefer that at least one other party checks both the entire text, as well as the selected quotes in the translations. The major problem is that we can't guarantee that editors aren't cherry picking or inadvertently misinterpreting the source. I've encountered both good faith and serious POV usage of sources on a number of Eastern European centred articles. (Thanks for creating a reflist here: straggly refs in unrelated sections are a pet peeve of mine.) --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:36, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Reply to welcome[edit]

Thank you for your kind message. I am a religious studies scholar and have been editing here and there, very occasionally, for some years. I now adventured to write my first Wikipedia entry as a draft: Weixin Shengjiao. I studied quite carefully the pages you indicated and hope I did everything right but you may want to take a look at my draft page, which is waiting for review. One question, why the image in the Infobox appear aligned right rather than center? Than you Aida Young Aidayoung (talk) 14:43, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

No problem Aida. I've moved your comment down here, the convention is to post new comments at the bottom of a talk page. Sorry for welcoming you after you've been editing for 10 years! I fixed the image using the instructions in Help:Infobox picture. As you're a scholar in this area, you might like and be able to improve two articles I worked on a few years ago: Daejongism and Daesun Jinrihoe. Fences&Windows 18:15, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Dear Fences, again my Wiki-ignorance makes me wonder whether it's better to answer on your Talkpage or my Talkpage. I will have a look at the two articles, starting from Daesun JInrihoe. It is the larger group deriving from Gang Il-sun. My impression is that the article, which by the way is not too bad, was written in its first version by somebody whose native language is not English. Another problem is that it mostly relies on very old sources, while more recent scholarly research now does exist. Here is the message I posted on my own Talk Page: Thank you, very useful work, and please explain how you managed to put the image in the center. Weixin Shengjiao is one among several religious movements that in my personal opinion are under-represented in Wikipedia - this is the reason I also made some edit to the page about Gang Il-sun, whose posterity is extremely complicated (around one hundred religious movements derived from him) but, by the estimate of leading scholar of Korean religion Donald Baker, today may well have some ten million followers when you add up the various movements. What I mean is Gang Il-sun is an important character and deserved a more detailed entry. It is of course not Wikipedia's but our fault as religious scholars. For many years, both I and others found writing in Wikipedia difficult - and it doesn't go in the list of publications for academic advancement... As evidence of our Wiki-ignorance, I never heard before of WP-DYK. I believe the "hooks" can be that "a Taiwanese religious movement teaching I Ching and Feng Shui gathered from 1984 to 2016 some 300,000 followers" (I prefer to stay with the conservative estimate) and "ceremonies honoring the ancestors in Taiwan organized by the religious movement Weixin Shengjiao attract every year on January 1 more than 30,000, including the island's top political authorities." Best regards and thank you again Aidayoung (talk) 19:34, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Aidayoung (talk) 19:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

I am posting here too my answer to your comments in my own Talk Page Dear Fences and windows, I will work on Daesun Jinrihoe as soon as possible. Yes, the page shows different hands. I believe criticism should of course be kept but Jorgensen wrote his article sixteen years ago, in the immediate aftermath of the fights between the two factions, which generated a lot of hostile attention in the Korean media. The problems have not been completely eliminated, but a Council held in Yeoju in 2013 allowed the two factions to coexist more or least peacefully. DJ also tried to address the other criticism that surfaced in the media and I would say its public image is better than in 2001. Answering your questions on Weixin Shengjiao, I have mentioned in the entry that it translates "Sacred Teachings of the Mind Only." The problem however is that the Chinese notion of "mind" is not equivalent to the Western one. As far as I know, as it has received very little scholarly attention (in addition to what I quoted there are only three unpublished conference papers), WS has also eluded the radars of critics of fringe religions. Did you write the article on Daejongism as well? If yes, what is a deliberate decision to exclude the controversial matter of the relationship between Daejongism and Dahn Yoga, the organization of Ilchi Lee?Aidayoung (talk) 18:48, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Aidayoung (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Aidayoung, I did re-write Daejongism. Before I edited, it was an largely unsourced stub. I then expanded it using what sources I could find. I'm not a religious scholar and I've not got a particular interest in these new religious movements, but I stumbled on them somehow and decided to improve our coverage. I didn't deliberately exclude the relationship between Daejongism and Dahn Yoga, it just wasn't covered by the sources I found.
The reception of Daesun Jinrihoe can be framed according to the age of the sources and with your access to more scholarly sources it should be improved. Fences&Windows 20:39, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestions about Daesun Jinrihoe. I will get to it as soon as possible. Daejongism in my opinion is understandable and well-written in its present incarnation.I will only add in the next few days some updated references to scholarly literature and perhaps a sentence or two on the controversies about the relationships with Dahn Yoga. Aidayoung (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Dear Fences, I have now made a number of edits to the page that you re-wrote on Daejongism. Please check whether you agree. Best, AidaAidayoung (talk) 18:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Aida, that looks good. Fences&Windows 15:54, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

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Your close on User:Spacecowboy420[edit]

Hi, Fences and windows. Regarding your close on the latest Spacecowboy420 case, I appreciate your proposal, but restricting Spacecowboy420 from undiscussed redirects or mergers won't stop him from reckless blanking. And the main problem pointed to in these two ANI threads regarding him is his reckless blanking. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:50, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Flyer22 Reborn, you're welcome to reopen the thread if you feel the discussion needs to continue and further admin action is needed. I didn't look further into Spacecowboy420's current editing. Fences&Windows 07:24, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Flyer22 Reborn & Fences I have already planned to treat blanking articles, with the same consideration that I have agreed to use when redirecting/merging articles. As per my comments on ANI your advice "just use common sense and err of the side of caution when removing content" seems very sensible and easy to live with. (especially when combined with "discuss major changes first") - I hope that puts your mind at rest, Flyer. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 08:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I responded on my talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:02, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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I left a note which might be of interest to you[edit]

Talk page note--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Sphilbrick. I tried to add the infobox, but an edit filter blocked me! The page took English Wikipedia code in the preview, but then "computer says no". I progressively removed "fk a genre", the URL and then found the Spanish wikicode, but to no avail. Spanish Wikipedia's edit filter still thought I was vandalising... I put the code on the talk page and left a cry for help. Fences&Windows 20:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
OK, thanks for trying.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Sphilbrick, I was overthinking it. On Spanish Wikipedia, you can just add the empty infobox template, ficha, and it populates from Wikidata. I now have 10 edits under my belt at es.wikipedia. Fences&Windows 21:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Wonderful! Thanks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:24, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Note to self[edit]

Look up uses of infomory.com, famous101.com, answers.com, informationclearinghouse.info, Wikivisually, Wikivisual, newworldencyclopedia.org. Not reliable. Create William H. Sebrell, Jr, old scandal, Michael Scott (Chicago board of education), Steve Back? Fences&Windows 20:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Daesun Jinrihoe[edit]

I have finally worked on Daesun Jinrihoe. I have reorganized, updated, and expanded the entry, and restored the parts on "criticism" that had been deleted (presumably by members of the movement) but, when updated, are informative. I have maintained where consistent with the reorganization the previous material, and have included missing page numbers in already existing references.Aidayoung Aidayoung (talk) 13:45, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Nice work, Aidayoung! One IP user has been trying to santitise the article since last August. Fences&Windows 17:27, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
For coherence, I have also edited Jeung San Do (obviously written by members), Bocheonism and Gang Il-sun, and introduced a new entry JeungsanismAidayoung (talk) 17:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Excellent, I had considered tackling those articles too years ago but balked at the task. Fences&Windows 18:37, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Jeung San Do can still be vastly improved. Will try to do when I will have time Aidayoung (talk) 17:58, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion of page Angela Yuriko Smith[edit]

Fences and Windows, I'd like to ask you to consider reversing the deletion of page Angela Yuriko Smith due to a lack of sources. Originally, this was a creation of a family member at the beginning of my career as a fiction author to show support. Seven years later, I actually do have sources and a career worth noting and would like to re add the page. I've added a page suggestion in the appropriate area. This is my first time on Wikipedia other than as a user fact checking, so I apologize for any lack of protocol. Here is the original page deletion information:

20:15, 16 May 2011 Fences and windows (talk | contribs) deleted page Angela Yuriko Smith (Expired PROD, concern was: unsourced BLP)

And here is what I added in the "Suggest a new article" section:

  • Angela Yuriko Smith, American author and poet of over 15 books primarily in the horror and speculative fiction genres. Smith has also published a number of children's books. A former newspaper journalist for The Bay Beacon in Niceville, Florida and The Community News in Browns Mills, New Jersey, her prose and poetry have been published in several print and online publications, including the “Horror Writers Association's Poetry Showcase” vols. 1-3, “Christmas Lites” vols. 1-6 and the “Where the Stars Rise: Asian Science Fiction and Fantasy” anthology. Her first collection of poetry, “In Favor of Pain,” has been nominated for an 2017 Elgin Award. When not writing, she teaches creative writing at Northwest Florida State College. A member of the Horror Writer's Association and the Science Fiction Poetry Association. Angela Yuriko Smith's blog is at [1]. The Elgin nomination for "In Favor of Pain" by Angela Yuriko Smith: [2]. Angela Yuriko Smith's work on Amazon: [3]. Angela Yuriko Smith with Horror Writer's Association [4]

My bibliography is at: http://angelaysmith.com/books-by-angela-2/

Thank you for your consideration for this page. I appreciate the information Wikipedia provides and am a frequent user.

Angela Yuriko Smith (talk) 11:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)Angela Yuriko Smith

References

Hello Angela Yuriko Smith, thank you for commenting. I have looked at the deleted article, the links you provided, and sources I can find. I'm afraid that I cannot find sufficient coverage in independent reliable sources like books, newspapers and magazines (just in brief pieces in local press like [1]). I cannot say that notability has been demonstrated, so a restored article would be quickly deleted again. Compare to the kind of sourcing I found for Ethan Siegel or Dominic Frisby. I would be willing to restore the deleted text into your userspace and merge in your proposed text, but I will not place it back into the encyclopedia as an article as I do not believe it meets our requirements for biographies. Also bear in mind that for people who are not well known public figures, a Wikipedia article can be a bad thing. It will be at the top of Google searches and you will not control it. Fences&Windows 17:13, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Following up on Dietary Inflammatory Index[edit]

It was created from here Inflammation

Text was published here[2] in Jan 2016.

Plagarism was added to Wikipedia in this edit[3]. Will just delete it all. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:42, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, Doc James, but I cannot see that the entire text was copied from that article. You have not demonstrated what the copyright issue is. Could you explain this in more detail, please? Fences&Windows 22:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
If you look at this text[4]
"Based on a search of the literature from 1950 to the end of 2010, 45 parameters were identified among foods, nutrients, and other food components that were associated with six plasma inflammatory markers (IL-1β, IL-4, IL-6, IL-10, TNF-α and CRP). A specific inflammatory effect score for each food parameter was developed on the basis of the literature review and taking into account the quality and number of published papers (1,943 articles were reviewed and scored). For each study participant in a study, the dietary data is first linked to a global database that was developed based on 11 datasets from around the world (US – NHANES; UK – The National Diet & Nutrition Survey; Bahrain – National Nutrition Survey for Adult Bahrainis; Mexico – Mexican National Health and Nutrition Survey; Australia – National Nutrition Survey; South Korea – KNHANES; Taiwan – Nutrition and Health Survey in Taiwan; India – Indian Diet Study; New Zealand – National Nutrition Survey) and thus provides a robust estimate of the mean and the standard deviation of these 45 parameters.2 Each subject’s exposure relative to the “standard global mean” is expressed as a z-score that is derived by subtracting the “standard global mean” from the amount reported, and dividing this value by its standard deviation. To minimize the effect of “right skewing”, this value was then converted to a centered percentile score. The subject’s DII score was computed by multiplying these values by the specific article inflammatory effect score for each food parameter and then summing together all these 45 values according to the following formula, DII=b1*n1+b2*n2...........b45*n45, where bi refers to the literature-derived inflammatory effect score for each of the evaluated food parameter and ni refers to the food parameter-specific centered percentile, which were derived from the dietary data, per each i from 1 to 45."
Ref says " basis of a search of the literature from 1950 to the end of 2010, we identified forty-five food parameters among foods, nutrients and other food components that were associated with six plasma inflammatory markers (IL-1β, IL-4, IL-6, IL-10, TNF-α and CRP). We defined a specific DII score for each food parameter on the basis of the literature review and by taking into account the quality and number of published papers (1943 articles were reviewed and scored). For each study participant, the dietary data were first linked to a global database that was developed on the basis of eleven data sets from around the world and thus provides a robust estimate of the mean and the standard deviation of these forty-five parameters(16). Each subject’s exposure relative to the ‘standard global mean’ was expressed as a z-score that was derived by subtracting the ‘standard global mean’ from the amount reported and then dividing this value by its standard deviation. To minimise the effect of ‘right skewing’, this value was then converted to a centred percentile score. The subject’s DII score was computed by multiplying these values by the specific DII score for each food parameter and then summing together all these forty-five values according to the following formula, DII=b1× n1 + b2× n2 +……….. + b45× n45, where bi refers to the literature-derived inflammatory effect score for each of the evaluated food parameter and ni refers to the food parameter specific centred percentile, which were derived from the dietary data, per each i from 1 to 45."
Looking further Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:13, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
With that degree of issues in the original edit here[5] best to start over IMO. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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How Can I Write an Entry on a Subject "Protected from Creation"[edit]

Dear Fences and Windows: As you know from my history of editing, I research new religious movements and "cults," not only in Asia. I have recently created the entry Bnei Baruch. It is a large, if controversial, movement, and I did mention the controversies. Its founder, Michael Laitman, is also an interesting and controversial figure in the world of new religious movements. I had in mind to create a bibliographic page but found that the page was "deleted and protected from creation." I saw there were several attempts to post as a Wikipedia entry his promotional CV. These were no real entries suitable for Wikipedia, of course, but Laitman is surely a relevant public figure both in Israel and the US in the milieus of Kabbalah and esoteric Judaism, with some 150,000 followers. Of course, the entry should cover criticism and controversies as well. But I believe it should be created and am inquiring how one can request that the protection be removed. BestAidayoung (talk) 16:56, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Aidayoung, I suggest reading Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bnei Baruch and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Laitman. These articles were both deleted in 2006 for being "self-promotional". So long as your new articles don't suffer from the problems listed in those debates, recreation should be OK. Draft a replacement at User:Aidayoung/Michael Laitman and I will check it. We should be able to get it posted. Fences&Windows 17:04, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
We may need to go to WP:DRV or speak to the admin who protected the page. For Laitman's bio, don't use any sources he wrote or by his organisation or followers. This looks useful:[6]. Fences&Windows 17:45, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Fences and Windows, I will read the material and prepare a draft as you suggest. I am familiar with the 2002 article by Blau in Haaretz and have mentioned it in my Bnei Baruch entry.Aidayoung (talk) 20:53, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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Tommy Sotomayor article is being vandalized again[edit]

This article is being vandalized again, could you please put a temporary lock on it as you did once before so only registered users can edit it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Sotomayor

Thank you! Neptune's Trident (talk) 02:12, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Sure Neptune's Trident, I've indef protected it. I noticed there was a comment about his name on the talk page, would this sourcing be enough to verify it? [7][8] Fences&Windows 08:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that sourcing should be enough to verify his name. Thanks again. Neptune's Trident (talk) 15:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Article title move[edit]

Could you please move or change the title of this article? I don't believe it should be capitalized as it is now. The words on and the usually aren't capitalized in Wikipedia articles or film titles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_On_The_Blackpool_Express

Thanks again!! Neptune's Trident (talk)

Hi Neptune's Trident, the official page has those words in caps.[9] I'm not sure on our TV title rules. You should be able to move it, provided a redirect doesn't exist. Fences&Windows 21:29, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
You are correct, thanks. Neptune's Trident (talk)

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Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
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Editorial: Annotations[edit]

Annotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead?

1495 print version of the Digesta of Justinian, with the annotations of the glossator Accursius from the 13th century

ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning.

As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing (WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided.

Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions.

An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page.

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