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Upgrading the links to references in the Infobox source field…[edit]

Hi Fleets, I notice that you're upgrading the links to references in the Infobox source field. I believe I may be able to assist with this using the AutoWikiBrowser. Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 09:31, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi DynanoDegsy. Yeah I've been doing that, and I don't know too much about AWB. Will have to look into it. Thanks.Fleets (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Having said that, it appears that a large number of articles have the format… |source = [], so sadly it's not possible to create a player specific reference from that external link using AutoWikiBrowser.
If the external link had been in the format… |source = [], then it would have been possible to use AutoWikiBrowser to create a proper reference from the external link.
Best regards. DynamoDegsy (talk)
Oh well, some you win, some you lose. Manual isn't often the way forwards, but is often the only way available to us. Cheers all the same.Fleets (talk) 19:44, 14 February 2018 (UTC) website doesn't show the Great Britain player statistics unless they also played for England…[edit]

Hi Fleets, sadly the website doesn't show the Great Britain player statistics unless they also played for England. Hence for Kevin Ashcroft, et al, shows either nothing, or the statistics of other players with that suranme, in this case Ernest Ashcroft. Years ago, I was told by someone at that this would be remedied… it still hasn't been done, so rather than us them as references, I've placed them in the 'External links' section, in the hope that someday they will be updated. Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:56, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I thought they did, as I remember clicking on links as seeing the stats. As you say it appears to be English GB players only. Was trying to get the stats to have some sort of reference, but England is looking after little old England only. Cheers for the info.Fleets (talk) 10:58, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Was it just non-England players that were affected by the non-transfer of stats or is this symptomatic of a wider issue?Fleets (talk) 19:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware the statistics on GB are shown only if the player also played for England. Back in the noughties, I initially noticed that the Welsh GB players were not shown in the GB statistics, but then I noticed that English players that hadn't played for England, e.g. Alan Hardisty, were also missing from the GB statistics. As an aside, the search only works for 4 or more characters… so bad news for Les Dyl, and Don Fox :-) Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 16:03, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Seemed like there should be a central point of international stats for the Home Nations. It sounds like this was not it. Your info is very much appreciated though.Fleets (talk) 16:17, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


Hi, I'm a little confused by your revert here. Per WP:UNITS, which you cite in your edit summary, for non-scientific articles not relating to the United States or the United Kingdom, "...the primary units chosen will be SI units". As the subject is Australian, it follows thatmetres should be the preferred primary unit. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 14:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I reverted to the previous editor as it states that "In non-scientific articles relating to the United Kingdom, the primary units for most quantities are metric or other internationally used units,[i] except that; ... the primary units for personal height and weight are feet​/inches and stones/​pounds. I agreed with the previous editor that the above and linked applied as he plays in British football for a British club, and holds a British passport.Fleets (talk) 15:53, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Positional naming[edit]

Hi Fleets, with regard to positional naming, in the spirit of international harmony, in the rugby league player biographies, I've generally utilised both the British, and the Southern Hemisphere positional naming, e.g. Stand-off/Five-eighth, Scrum-half/Halfback, and Loose forward/Lock, reversing the positional names if the player is from the Southern Hemisphere. Though I have to admit, I do find the use of Halfback in the Southern Hemisphere confusing, as in my mind, Halfback could be either; Stand-off, or Scrum-half. In the case of, e.g. Shane Kenward, I believe he is probably Australian, and has played in both Australia and England, so should we use both Five-eighth/Stand-off, or Stand-off/Five-eighth, or just Five-eighth, or Stand-off? Best regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:27, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

I think he is an Aussie. My position is in the infobox there is limited space, and given that they all link to the same space it's not necessary. I get the spirit, but to those who know it's redundant, and to those who don't it could be confusing. I get the why, the attempting to reach out and all, but I think in the infobox it's all a little too cluttered to have stand-off/five-eighth, scrum-half/half-back. It does get a little into ownership when Aussies are given Northern Hemisphere positions and vice-versa, but as a general rule I go for a what makes sense on a case-by-case basis ie if someone played a vast majority in a different hemisphere then go with that hemisphere.Fleets (talk) 22:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Brad Knowles-Tagg listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Brad Knowles-Tagg. Since you had some involvement with the Brad Knowles-Tagg redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. PamD 11:26, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Category:Rugby league teams in London[edit]

Hi Fleets, the London Broncos article is already part of [[Category:Rugby league teams in London]], as the article is member of [[Category:London Broncos]] that is a Subcategory of [[Category:Rugby league teams in London]]. Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:46, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


Sorry, didn't realise. Looked like an IP vandal, but can see now that it wasn't. Cheers for the reply.Fleets (talk) 14:05, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Rugby Union[edit]

Hi Fleets. Any reason for the three reverts? [1], [2], [3] Andygray110 (talk) 20:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

No worries. They are used as a point of reference in RL, can't speak for union though.Fleets (talk) 20:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me chum. I'm not bothered just there was no summary so wasn't sure of the reason. Generally for players who are retired the dates for updates aren't often needed as their stats are unlikely to change. Terrific editing on the RL, you've done some great creating there. Andygray110 (talk) 20:32, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

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re-insertion and commenting out[edit]

I have removed those links as they do not belong in our articles per our policies and guidelines. Your edits to put them back commented out does not make any sense:

  1. they do not display, and there is no reason for them to be there, so that does not make any sense
  2. It now lacks the comment of why they are commented out
  3. It only invites to put them back by anyone interested
  4. We are not writing a database, that is what we have WikiData for.
  5. We are also not an internet directory to find the adidtional social networking sites - which no-one will see.

Please do not put them back - if you want it recorded, then they should be on WikiData. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:19, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

And on your last revert - most of the websites were NOT of the subject of the page. Please have a good read through our external links guideline, and the many (recent) discussions regarding this on the talkpage there, and on the external links noticeboard. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:42, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

working out a list[edit]

Lets take this list - I'll comment on each of them and point to the relevant parts of WP:EL:

I hope this explains my edits a bit better. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:04, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Was a WIP Dick.Fleets (talk) 20:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Doncaster R.L.F.C. articles…[edit]

Hi Fleets, thanks for the heads-up on the Doncaster R.L.F.C. players articles, you caught me in the process of correcting them. Best regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

No worries.Fleets (talk) 20:48, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

contributing in your article[edit]

I want to contribute in your article about Oliver Russell. I will cooperate with you and also do all needful. I will be thankful if I can work along with you to develop the article Souvik Nova (talk) 19:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


Hiya Fleets

Is it possible for someone to upload The North Sydney Bears logo back onto it's wikipedia page. I had one which was replaced by a newer version by another user, then someone removed that citing copyright issues. I don't have a good enough computer to upload a new logo picture. Is there anyway we can get it back up?.

Sully198787 (talk) 10:52, 20 June 2018 (UTC)Sully198787Sully198787 (talk) 10:52, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hull Kingston Rovers' Player Wikipedia Profiles[edit]

Hello Fleets.

Yes I do like cleaning up various entry’s, because some of the pages I edit on a regular basis were very untidy before hand.

I try to do my best, and I always welcome words of advice.

I edit mainly Hull Kingston Rovers players' Wikipedia profiles. I make sure I get my information from a reputable source i.e. stats and career history etc.

Again this is something I quite like.

Also could you please help out with an entry I tried to get to 'main space' please?

I’ve noticed you have made a lot yourself.

It’s the 'Draft:Brad Clavering' entry that was rejected this week, if you could help that would be great.

Many thanks!

ScottJohnSexton. ScottJohnSexton (talk) 15:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I had called you John, so apologies. Your problems with Brad Clavering is that he has never played in a professional league, ie the highest level he has played for is League 1. He has played in the Challenge Cup, but the rule seems to be Championship player in Challenge Cup is okay, but League 1 players playing in that comp is a no-go. If you put that in place, he would likely be put up for deletion, not by me, but by people who see League 1 as too low a level to register as a professional. Hopefully he makes an appearance in the Qualifiers and you can add him with no issues then. Happy editing. Fleets (talk) 15:40, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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