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India-related FPs I

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  Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.

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  The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.

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  The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.

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  The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

India-related FPs II

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  The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.

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  The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.

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  The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.

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  The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

India-related FPs III

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  A Toda tribal hut exemplifies Indian vernacular architecture.

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  Bangles on display in Bangalore India

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  A Sadhu and a picture of Siva in Kayasth Tola, Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh in Northern India

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  The pushkarani, or tank, located on the eastern side of Krishna temple in Hampi, Karnataka, the seat of the Vijayanagara Empire

India-related FPs IV

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  Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim

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  A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill.

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  A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva

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  A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

India-related FPs V

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  Paintings at the Ajanta Caves in Aurangabad, Maharashtra, 6th century

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  The Agasthiyamalai range, constituting the southern end of the Western Ghats, as seen from the rainshadow region of the southwest monsoon in Tirunelveli, Tamil Nadu.

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  A beach off the Arabian Sea in Puvar, Kerala. The Arabian Sea is the northwestern region of the Indian Ocean, bounded by the Arabian and Indian peninsulas.

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  Flowing through its rocky terrain near Hampi is the Tungabhadra river, the major right bank tributary of the Krishna river, a peninsular river, which empties into the Bay of Bengal. The coracles, made of wicker, are traditionally covered with hide, their circular shape preventing them from overturning in rivers with rocky outcrops.

India-related FPs VI

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  The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller

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  An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.

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  A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.

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  A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

India-related FPs VII

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  A bharatnatyam concert in 2014

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  A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.

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  A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan

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  An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

India-related FPs VIII

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  The tomb of Itmad Ud Daulah, Agra,

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  A Hindu bride

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  The interior of San Thome Basilica, Chennai, Tamil Nadu. Christianity is believed to have been introduced to India by the late 2nd century by Syriac-speaking Christians.

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  A Sikh pilgrim at the Harmandir Sahib, or Golden Temple, in Amritsar, Punjab

India-related Classic Pictures-I

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  A farmer in Rajasthan milks his cow. Milk is India's largest crop by economic value. Worldwide, as of 2011, India had the largest herds of buffalo and cattle, and was the largest producer of milk.

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  Indian agriculture dates from the period 7,000–6,000 BCE, employs two thirds of the national workforce, and is second in farm output worldwide. Above, a farmer works an ox-drawn plow in Kadmati, West Bengal.

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  Schoolchildren in Chambal, Madhya Pradesh eating a mid-day meal. The Mid-Day Meal Scheme attempts to lower rates of childhood malnutrition in India.

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  Cricket is the most popular game among India's masses. Shown here is an instance of street cricket.

India-related FPs IX

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  Asfi Masjid at the Bara Imambara complex, Lukcnow, India

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  Chhota Imambara, Lucknow, India

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  Taj Mahal mosque, Agra, India

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  Bangalore panorama

India-related FPs X

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  Red Weaver ant, Oecophylla smaragdina in Bangalore, India

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  Female Telamonia dimidiata in the Lalbagh Botanical gardens, Bangalore, India

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  Mysore Palace in the morning

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  Indian Olympic athlete, Irfan Kolothum Thodi

India-related FPs XI

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  Grammodes geometrica, Bangalore, India

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  Mumtaz Ahmed Khan founder of Al-Ameen Educational Society

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  Al-Ameen College of Pharmacy, Bangalore, India

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  Kumar Anish, Indian yoga specialist

India-related FPs XII

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  Taj Mahal at the golden hour

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  Bara Imambara, Lucknow, India

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  Salman Khurshid, Indian politician belonging to the Indian National Congress

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  Indian palm squirrel, Bangalore, India

India-related FPs XIII

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  Odissi

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  Mohiniyattam

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  Kuchipudi

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  Arundhati Roy

India-related FPs XIV

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  Chandiroor Divakaran

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  Karnataka High Court, Bangalore

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  Dharmaraya Swamy Temple a Hindu temple in Bangalore

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  Bangalore Town Hall

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Buddha related FPs I

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  Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945

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  17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.

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  The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.

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  Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

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  Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.

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  Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton

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  English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century

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  Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Things to do on 6/10/22

• Start the article Singrauli estate (see Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Cleaning_up_confusions_about_"Singrauli_State"
• Start something on the Ethnic fermented foods and beverages of the Darjeeling Hills, using

• Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
• Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.

• Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

Indus Valley civilisation

Your edits at Indus Valley civilisation at this edit has the edit summary: obviously IVC may not be substantially more common, but it is still more common. You can't legislate what we write *inside* a article. MOS:CAPS does apply to article space. Your edit summary appears to me to be WP:BATTLEGROUNDy and [most of] the edits you have subsequently made appear to me to be WP:POINTy rather than in WP:GOODFAITH. You moved the page to "Indus civilisation" immediately following the move close. Some of your most recent edits appear quite inconsistent with that action. I would strongly suggest that you self-revert your edits that fall to the matters I have raised. Cinderella157 (talk) 13:50, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I did become aware of that, so I fixed it. It doesn't use IVC except in the statement that the capitalized name is more common in the literature, has been since 1997.

As a description, from 2006, "ancient Indus" has been more common than IVc or Ic, the latter both plummeting irreversibly to oblivion. There is no mandate that we have to use "Indus Valley civilisation" in the article except in the first sentence. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Your evidence for making such a claim is? Cinderella157 (talk) 08:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Your issues are bogus. You know nothing about the civilisation, though a expert on English grammar, citing books written by lawyers-turned-dubious-grammarians, you do arrogate to be. Good luck in your endeavors. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:05, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Please WP:DROPTHESTICK and just work with guidelines instead of wanting things your own way. Dicklyon (talk) 03:41, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

You seriously think you know enough about IVC to beat me at this game? You can't even read Dyson correctly. He says, "ancient Indus valley civilization" on page ii. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 03:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

No, IVC is outside my area of expertise. I'll change that to a more appropriate page number. Thanks for pointing out. Dicklyon (talk) 03:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

You can't because there aren't any. 13 references are to "Indus valley civilization" and two to "Indus Valley Civilization." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:05, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

*Comment: There is a separate article for Wikipedia:Article_titles where concesus matters. Using MOS:CAPS to move the page seems to be misapplication of guidelines. The term Indus Valley civilisation gives the impression that Indus Valley is enough to identify the civilisation but it isn't enough in reality. Civilisation is no less important than Indus Valley. Thus, the term Indus Valley Civilisation uniquely identifies the civilization and it is the common name used by masses. Northeast heritage (talk) 04:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm about to go to bed. Will read your post carefully tomorrow. I shall also be filing a move review tomorrow. Please see Talk:IVC. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:30, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Your conduct at the subject page and related pages has already been questioned by several editors including myself. I would believe that your conduct might be characterised as WP:BULLYING. I would hope that you might seriously consider this and dial it back per Donald Sutherland. Cinderella157 (talk) 10:56, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much Cinderella. I will seriously consider. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:39, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

The relevant news, June 24, 2022

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Smoothing filters

Could you please turn to a statistician (or something similar) friend for an explanation of the data that we are looking at. The signal is at the edge (2019)---so please ask how smoothing will impact that signal. Thanks. Chaipau (talk) 00:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

West Bengal Official Language Act, 1961 moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, West Bengal Official Language Act, 1961, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Storchy (talk) 17:03, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Please don't do this. I am an experienced editor. I can add references in a New York minute. Please let it be. It will be finished by the end of today. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:05, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Links to draft articles

Please do not introduce links in actual articles to draft articles, as you did to Darjeeling. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 10:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for pointing this out. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:26, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Towns

The comment was amusing. Nalanda Patliputra etc were towns I believe. Also what about the capital of the kingdoms? It is hard to believe that the kings ruled from villages. Am I wrong in holding this view? Venkat TL (talk) 11:58, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, I was trying to inject some reality there. Yes, Patliputra was indeed a town, maybe even a large fortified city. I was thinking of towns founded for economic purposes. Taxila and Nalanda, both large Buddhist monasteries, certainly did attract visitors. Taxila might have been a town. Nalanda I'm not sure. I don't think it was a university, as Sen has so gallantly promoted, by which I mean similar to those of Europe of the medieval era, with some defining principles of intellectual independence and so forth.The records of the capitals of that time are few and far between, but yes they must have attracted people. I've acknowledged your objection on that page. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:38, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

No offence taken, I took it in good humor. Thanks for the answer. In my opinion, comparison between cities separated by two millennia is pointless due to the stark difference in population. So I think that the settlements of the bygone era should be compared to the other settlements of the same era to classify them as village town etc. Capital settlements of that time would have been political, military and economic center just by virtue of them being the capital (the seat of administrative power). Venkat TL (talk) 12:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Sorry if this sounds incoherent. I'm free associating. Well, there's Mohenjo-daro an ancient city if there ever was. There's Harappa, still visible despite the stripping of its top layer for bricks by locals and the British.

The Mahabodhi temple in Gaya did survive ... well in gutted form, that is, until the British restored it to its current glory. All made of brick But I count that in temple towns.

There are all the towns and cities of the Near East, of Ancient Egypt (Luxor), Mesopotamia (Susa), ...

There's Athens, and there's Rome.

Nothing like them, not a trace, has survived of the Indo-Aryan settlements in the Punjab or the Gangetic plains. Fine, the IG plain was mostly silt, but the IVC sites were found in the silt.

It's all religious-mythological evidence, orally transmitted.

India below the Vindhyas is an altogether different story. The evidence of towns and cities is there for every one to see.

The lack of evidence of early urbanization in the Gangetic plain can't be all laid at the doorstep of Muslims or explained away by structures having been made of wood.

On the other hand, the great thing about Vedic oral transmission is that it was so rigorous. The Rig Veda has survived for 3500 years with no variant readings.

So there were pluses. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Does the Vedic writings not mention any towns and cities of that era when they were written? Venkat TL (talk) 15:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Take it to Tfd

It isn't my job as you state. If you think the campaignbox should be deleted, start a nomination. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

It's garbage. I've posted on the talk page. Engage me there, not rudely here. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't care about the box. I care about it being posted on that page. If you want to post it on the British Empire page, be my guest. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Or, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland's lead, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland's lead, be my honored guest. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:04, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you very much indeed, @Johannes Maximilian: Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:20, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikibreak

Although the US Supreme Court decision of June 24, 2002 was expected, and although we live in a state that is relatively immune to its ill-effects, my family has been affected in ways I can't easily summarize.

I will therefore be taking three months off Wikipedia (with some provisos explained up top) to support them, and will return on October 1, 2022. All the best, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Creighton

Thank you for your work on Mandell! Next time I am up there I will (might) do a little dance outside the church, or maybe the village hall which bears his name, in acknowledgment of your efforts.. And right now I am going to take the dog for a walk in Coldfall Wood and I will park in the road that bears his name, due to his having got around a bit! What a chap. Thank you for improving his article. Cheers DBaK (talk) 16:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

What a pleasant surprise! It is more motivation for me to finish the MC article in the manner he would have done.

A walker he certainly was. So walking is good.

Yes, remarkable man too he was, his life story proof that there's no telling what soil and what circumstance genius can sprout from. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Kurmi

Recent edit on Kurmi was much needed. Though, i discussed on the talk page about the recent addition by RuudVanClerk, who was blocked for misuse of sources, i was afraid from removing the content (which according to Fylindfotberserk, was not appropriately sourced). In case you got time, go through Koeri article, as the both castes are similar in many ways. I know, you were one along with Sitush, who wrote these articles. Thanks Admantine123 (talk) 22:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)