User talk:FreeRangeFrog

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Apologies on Taburu Tuilagi[edit]

Dear Free Range Frog,

It has come to my attention that my account was hacked and I just realized you were on the end of some nasty abuse. I would like to say that that was not me saying hate and I'm sorry that it came from my account. I am starting a new fresh account and hopefully I will not got hacked again! Is there anything I can do to trace the hackers? Many thanks, omgainsley3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omgainsley3 (talkcontribs) 16:28, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


Last month, you decided a keep on Presumptive Nominee. It is good that you had comments and suggestions rather than a "The result is keep".

Here's my problem. Let me analyze the consensus....

Borock: keep reason is because there are references. No, not a good reason.
says Presumptive Nominee is more than 2 words. No, it's not. It is an adjective, presumptive or presumption, and nominee.

David Gerard: beyond dictionary definition. No, it isn't

JayJasper: per above two. Not a good reason. Used in the media. Also not a good reason, not establishing notability. The word "the" is use but is not an article. The Obama kids are in the media a lot, much more than Presumptive Nominee, but they are not an article.

Above....3 users

Deepavali 2014: definitions article and also no references about the history of the term

Rhodedendron: dictionary definition and gives example. Also says references don't say about the term, just use the word.

me (Dharahara): detailed explanation.

It seems to me that the reasons given for deletion are more sound than keep and that the keep people, with weak reasons, don't outnumber the deletes. Even merge/redirect would be better (and if so, I promise to improve the Candidate article to include mention of the term).

Also, basically, the users voting for delete address the issues raised by the keep voters. However, the keep voters do not address and are unable to address the delete issues because they don't have a leg to stand on.

Thank you in advance for your discussion and not being a dictator or not considering the matter. Dharahara (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what it is about this article, but you can do one of two things. One, simply redirect and merge. As I said, that was part of the potential consensus. Two, you can take it to WP:DRV and see if someone will agree with you that it should be deleted. In my opinion the material is valuable, although again given the AFD it's not entirely clear that it merits a standalone article. So the best outcome I guess is to simply merge and redirect. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your consideration of the matter. I think merge is the way to go for now.
I am a free range human, not a frog. I don't live in a cage unless you consider the planet Earth as one spherical cage. Dharahara (talk) 21:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

User who continues to make unreferenced articles after being told not to[edit] Check out the number of prods/afds also as well! Wgolf (talk) 16:15, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Dear Free Range Frog, I requested the undeletion of a page but it was mistake. I won't continue editing that page. My sincere apologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michi44 (talkcontribs) 07:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Orbus Software deletion[edit]

Hi there,

Could you clarify why you deleted the Orbus Software page on the A7/no indication of importance basis?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by BatesyM (talkcontribs) 14:20, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I left information in your talk page about dealing with a conflict of interest, I suggest you follow it. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:48, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Help with BLP noticeboard posting[edit]

Per my last comment at Reliable source question, I asked if an experienced editor (would you please help…you welcomed me to Wikipedia) to kindly advise me on the process of posting this citation for review on the BLP Noticeboard. I'm doing my best to understand Wikipedia policy, but there are subtleties and protocol I'm only gleaning from participating in discussions, and making missteps as I go along. This citation is an article about a living person, it does not identify sources, there are no corroborating sources, and there is controversy about the article's reliability. By my read of WP:BLP policy, that falls short of its reliability standards. But, WP:BLP also notes that care should be taken in posting on the BLP Noticeboard, including in some cases not making a public posting at all. I'd like to be respectful of that and also not make missteps on the BLP Noticeboard. I would be grateful if you could help me with some suggestions on how to proceed. Thank you.Starkcasted (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't agree that this is a BLP issue at all, I think you just exhausted the reliable source angle and now you're trying something else. Attempting to scrub this reference from the article has and will continue to simply call more attention to it. There is no need for "corroborating sources", the article is a source, and the source is reliable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. There is nothing in that article that rises to the level we would consider to be a BLP issue, and in any case it is not being used to support personal information about your boss/employer but rather a fact about the company. But, you are free to post on BLPN of course, there's nothing particularly complicated or special about it. The recommendation not to post is just related to situations like suppression of inappropriate material that is handled via email instead. A quick perusal of the board at the moment should give you an idea of how it works. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:42, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
BLP was brought up by another editor (see below) but a BLP assessment was all I was seeking and that brings this matter to a close. Regarding the rest of your comment:
Moving this article to the Reliable Sources Noticeboard was suggested by another editor, not me:
"Could you please start a new discussion on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard? I think that will be the best place to talk about this issue. – Zntrip 23:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)"
BLP was brought up by another editor, not me (I had no idea there was a BLP policy before then):
"As for BLP, there is an ongoing a discussion on the article talk page and other editors do not appear to agree with you that the material violates policy or is unreliably sourced. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 23:14, 26 April 2015 (UTC)"
Who then said:
"I haven't taken a look, in detail, at the BLP-related claims, which honestly is something I should do. No recommendation or anything is necessary. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 04:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)"
I waited for NorthBySouthBaranof to look at the BLP-related claims, was unsuccessful in reaching NorthBySouthBaranof, and then asked other editors for help. No one responded. I came back to your page because you responded right away when I pointed out a date error in the citation to improve the reference:
"I wanted to point out that if you end up keeping the citation it has a date error. It is dated 2010-8-28. The article was actually published on 2012-8-28. I thought it was a non-controversial undo, so I didn't correct it. Thanks! Starkcasted (talk) 04:38, 26 April 2015 (UTC)"
and I hoped you would be responsive (and indeed you were ;) to an issue that an apparently experienced editor, NorthBySouthBaranof, said "should" be reviewed.
And, FYI, that citation was posted 7 months ago. If someone was hired to monitor and remove it, they’ve been sleeping on the job.Starkcasted (talk) 04:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
It doesn't really matter who thought it was a BLP issue, I still disagree with the characterization that this is anything else other than an attempt to scrub the internet from information your employer dislikes - which inevitably tends to backfire. Had it been an actual BLP issue it would have been removed in about 5 minutes, with or without your involvement. But again, you are free to explore that angle if you wish. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
First, WP:NEWBIE "Assume good faith on the part of newcomers…Give them a chance!". Second, no employer has hired me to edit any Wikipedia articles. Clearly, there's no convincing you of that, and I won't try. But I'm happy to stay clear of any articles where there is any perceived bias, real or imagined. There is plenty to edit.
Despite this inauspicious welcome, I'm not dissuaded and I intend to bring what I can to the community. I have a lot of experience with fact-checking publications under journalistic standards, that I now understand are different (not necessarily better or worse) than Wikipedia standards. I intend to learn Wikipedia standards, and I certainly will make mistakes along the way. Per WP:NEWBIE, with other articles I'd appreciate it if you'd give me a chance to correct the mistakes before ascribing nefarious motives. Thank you. Starkcasted (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:19, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
@Starkcasted: I'm not sure what mistakes you're referring to. My objection here from the start is the fact that your first action on Wikipedia was to try to scrub something off an article that could be construed as a conflict of interest on your part. Whether that's the case or not, the removal of the reference must ultimately be done by consensus, and you are free to post your concerns in the BLP noticeboard as you said you would. I am in no way preventing you from doing so, assuming I even could. But I do disagree that it is a BLP issue. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:05, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
(Sorry for the delay. Been busy.) The WP:NEWBIE "mistakes" are exactly what you just stated as your "objection": I should have sought consensus prior to making my first edit, and I should have not chosen for a first edit something that would be construed as a conflict of interest under any interpretation. I did not understand the consensus process until I saw it unfold, and I did not think that edit would be construed as a conflict of interest (in a journalistic context, the standard is simply truth, not whose interest the truth serves). Still, I followed what other editors recommended, yourself included, every step of the way, to the best of my understanding of what you meant, switching gears from journalistic guidelines to Wikipedia guidelines (which I am still learning). And, as soon as understood that, under Wikipedia guidelines, this was a controversial and/or potentially conflicted reliable source issue I moved on to other reliable source issues (where I believe I've made some helpful contributions). So, no, I won't be addressing BLP or any other issues regarding the reliability of my fateful "first action". There are tons of other interesting reliable source issues to dig into. I certainly don't want to waste my time investigating the reliability of a source where my comments will be assessed on a presumed bias rather than on their merits. Starkcasted (talk) 14:10, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
@Starkcasted: Fair enough. I will say this: Your first edit did not require consensus per se, rather it was the perception that you were doing it under a conflict of interest that triggered all that subsequent semi-drama. If as you say that conflict of interest does not exist then you have my apologies. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:34, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I will do my best to be helpful, and when I make mistakes, to learn from them. Starkcasted (talk) 04:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Well another one who is adding unsourced non notable BLPS[edit] I think this is a possible sock puppet also. Wgolf (talk) 17:58, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Another one seems to be adding non notable band members with no sources. Wgolf (talk) 18:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

User who is only addings BLPs with only transfermark refs[edit] I keep on sending warnings about it too. Wgolf (talk) 20:57, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Cedric Thompson[edit]

You deleted the wrong Cedric Thompson. The Cedric Thompson in the AFD was already deleted. Cedric Thompson (defensive back) was just moved to avoid unnecessary disambugation. --Yankees10 00:09, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Cedric Thompson[edit]

Cedric Thompson (defensive back) was a different Cedric Thompson. I moved him to "Cedric Thompson" after the first Cedric Thompson was deleted.Joeykai (talk) 00:18, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

@Yankees10 and Joeykai: My bad, I swear I thought the AFD script had misfired or something. Restored. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 00:21, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
No big deal. Thanks for fixing it.--Yankees10 01:16, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Global Asthma Network[edit]

Hi back in december you deleted my page as advertising. It has been extensively re-written and I am re-adding it. If it still doesn't meet the criteria, could you give me more of a hint than G11? Some idea of the offending text would be useful as I am more than happy to make any required changes. Thanks.Eamone (talk) 01:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Please make sure you go through WP:AFC to avoid another deletion, that you check WP:ORG to make sure it's even worth submitting, and to make sure a volunteer reviews it beforehand. I find that it's impossible to explain why an article is written like a brochure to people who wrote it like a brochure to begin with because they suffer from the malady of being associated to the subject in the first place. Which is why we require AFC if you have a conflict of interest. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Block notices[edit]

I was going on past experience where IPs and accounts weren't allowed to remove block notices until the block expired; I did not know this changed in the last few months, so thanks for the correction on this. I didn't mean to step on any toes here. Nate (chatter) 18:43, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

@Mrschimpf: No problem, that has always been a point of confusion. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:45, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Louise Blouin[edit]

Hi! Thanks for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louise Blouin; it appears to be duplicated at (note the leading underscore before her name). I imagine that should go? It's confusing a bot. Many thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Looks like it was already closed. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:21, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Intercollegiate Knights[edit]

Thank you for undeleting Draft: Intercollegiate Knights. However after doing some cleanup, I realized the *entire* thing, other than the references (which is one link that no longer exists), is a copy of .

What is the proper thing to do? Nuke it again for Copyvio?Naraht (talk) 14:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

@Naraht: Yep, deleted as straight copyvio. Thanks for letting me know. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
NP. Still want to do the article and will certainly use that for a ref.Naraht (talk) 16:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


Since you're an admin can you please G7 Kendry Flores for me.--Yankees10 18:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

@Yankees10: You mean the redirect? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, the re-direct is unnecessary now.--Yankees10 18:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
@Yankees10: Yes check.svg Done §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Sawdust Art Festival[edit]

Dear FreeRangeFrog, would you please consider taking out the two warning boxes at the top of the Sawdust Art Festival Wikipedia page? One is a COI tag, the other is an advert tag. In response to these concerns, the creator and main editor of the page (not me) removed two categories and all the text in them, as well as one external link. I will admit that my previously published writing has been used as a reference in this piece. And I did add one of the categories (on Winter Fantasy). But that category has since been removed, and my contributions now are actually very minor, mostly grammatical clean-ups, which appear to be OK according to Wikipedia guidelines. Thank you very much for your consideration. Do let me know if you have any questions. Richiechang2002 (talk) 07:13, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

So only one tag applies then? Please read this. I reverted your removal of the advert one, because the article still reads like a brochure. Which reinforces the idea that you have a conflict of interest - not being able to see such material as promotional is a common symptom of being associated with the subject. The second section is also almost entirely unsourced. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Dear FreeRangeFrog, I did not remove the advert tag, the creator and main editor of the page did. Richiechang2002 (talk) 20:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

And another user who is doing unsourced BLPs[edit]

Found this when I was looking at the cat for BLPs up for deletion-4 one line articles all up for BLP prod by the same guy Wgolf (talk) 20:02, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to comment on VP proposal: Establish WT:MoS as the official site for style Q&A on Wikipedia[edit]

You are being contacted because of your participation in the proposal to create a style noticeboard. An alternate solution, the full or partial endorsement of the style Q&A currently performed at WT:MoS, is now under discussion at the Village Pump. Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

19 Kids and Counting[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog, could you keep an eye on the article 19 Kids and Counting? I notice you recently semi-protected Joshua Duggar and this page is experiencing similar issues. Thanks. --BoboMeowCat (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

@BoboMeowCat: Looked at the arty and doesn't seem like there's a lot of disruption. You think protection would be merited at this time? My concern with the other one were really BLP-related. I do see some issues of weight but that's to be expected due to recentism and should be hashed out via the usual edit mechanism. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:56, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Earlier there were IP's editing to sensationalize the molestation and more recently an IP who's trying to delete any mention of it [1], [2]. I'm not sure it's at the level of needing semi-protection yet, but seems like it might be heading there. --BoboMeowCat (talk) 21:01, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
OK that last edit did it. Semi'd for 4 days. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:16, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


Is this part of the secret perks of admin? Last time I checked that's not your talkpage and not your comments. Being an admin, checkuser, arb etc does not make you special or give you special editing rights. Would you like to revert yourself and let Bbb23 take care of things? It's well within their scope and I dare say ability to handle. They don't need your protections. I'll point out that WP:TPO states "Cautiously editing or removing another editor's comments is sometimes allowed, but normally you should stop if there is any objection". I am objecting. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

@Hell in a Bucket: As you are well aware, the notification is intended to notify editors who may be unaware of discretionary sanctions that apply to a given topic they are editing. Your position seems to be that you want Bbb23 to be "notified" of something he already knows. Now, when he decides to break 1RR on that article (or whatever the DS is there) you can haul him off to ARBCOM and I'll block him myself. Heck, I already blocked him once. Until then, both the notification and your revert are inappropriate, pointy and objectionable. And no, this has nothing to do with "special" editing rights, because I'm sure if that was the case you'd be complaining at ANI and not to me. In any case, I'm sure he's enjoying his Sunday, so let's wait until he comes back tomorrow and maybe you can warn him again. Maybe twice. Until then, maybe you can grok that a checkuser is perhaps slightly more aware of DS than an SPA with 4 edits who registered yesterday, doesn't need templating, and just leave his talk page alone unless you have an urgent SPI request or something. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
No my position is that Bbb23 is a big boy or girl and can handle their own business. That notice was sent by an established editor [[3]] a long term editor. I take it you will not self revert? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
No I will not, and neither will you. However Bosstopher is free to restore the notification if they so wish and disagree with my original revert. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:26, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

2 BLP's I'm not sure how reliable these sources are[edit]

Well I deleted the transfermark part but still unsure, here: Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Joel Castro Pereira. Wgolf (talk) 02:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Looks like PRODs all around? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:09, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Yeah someone else put up prods. On another note-someone did remove tons of BLP prods up I put that only had EL's to the IMDB earlier. Wgolf (talk) 23:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


& ==Transcendology==

I hereby affirm that I, Kurt Kawohl, I represent Transcendology, the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of

I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

KURT KAWOHL Kkawohl (talk) 22:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)Kkawohl Creator of Transcendology & Copyright holder 5-26-2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkawohl (talkcontribs)

I have no idea why you're posting this here, sorry. If you have a copyright issue on Wikiversity then you need to follow these instructions to donate the material. I can't do that for you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


Wondering what can be done to restore this page GWAVA is a legitimate company with recent history that can be added to legitimize the article. And biased language rewritten to meet non-promotional prose standards. (talk) 23:33, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Go here to determine if the subject merits inclusion, then go here to submit a draft. Also read this if it applies to you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:44, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

A odd case where technically this article should be considered as a BLP unsourced but...[edit]

James MacDonald (actor)-the article was created in 2007 but as someone else and since is now a BLP unsourced for someone else so not sure if it can even be tagged as such. Wanted to point this out really quick. Wgolf (talk) 01:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

It is an unsourced BLP, but you can't use BLPPROD because it wasn't created after 2010. I PRODed it normally. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:27, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
If we go by IMDb he's a character actor with lots of bit parts, but I can't find a single source other than IMDb... weird. If that's the case then I don't think he meets GNG. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

and another user adding tons of unsourced BLP's[edit]

Here: Wgolf (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Guy Abeille[edit]

Not dealing with this reductio ad absurdum. Take it to WP:BLP/N or WP:DRN if you feel the trinity making an appearance in that article is so important. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Before you removed all this referenced info, did you not read the articles in French about the Trinity? Furthermore, why did you remove the context (that it was Mitterand's request, that Roland de Villepin is Dominique de Villepin's cousin)? The references also call him "Monsieur 3%", but you removed it.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:47, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes I did, I just don't see the point in including that given it's a stub. You wrote They decided upon 3% because it reminded them of the trinity, the Christian doctrine which assumes that the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit are "one God in three persons. and you should have stopped at "trinity" because that's where the source stops, and it actually reads it was reminiscent of the Trinity. See WP:OR. You should also have made it clear it was a quote, and you didn't. Unless you add substantially more material the "Mr. 3%" and expansive explanations about the trinity are just not appropriate. They make the article look like it's intended to be humorous. Go ahead and actually expand the biography and then include that trivia to reduce its weight. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:55, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
It's not trivial to know that they came up with this rule because of the Christian doctrine of the trinity. Please don't remove referenced info just because you don't like it!Zigzig20s (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
It is trivia compared to the rest of the material that you could have sourced from that one article alone. What you fail to remember is that there is a living person out there reading this nonsense on the internet about them and comparing it to the French version and thinking why we turned their biography into some sort of humorous religious reference stub fest. Why don't you actually expand the article, and add the material as the source says, not what you think should be in there. Giving weight to the trinity (I mean seriously) in an article about an economist based on a 30-character quote is just mind boggling. And if you have trouble with English then I suggest you stay away from BLPs. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:50, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
It's not trivial. It's in all the articles. It's a fact. It's not humorous. The Christian origin of the rule should not be censored. Btw, what do you mean by "Bidget"?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:34, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I expanded the article a bit without reference to religion, hopefully you can continue. There are four more sources there (my French is bad but the German one is pretty good from a coverage perspective). §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Why are you censoring religion?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

81. vandal[edit]

Best to leave him be. He's also hit my Talk page and I expressly undid the latest revert of his changes, requesting others to let his edits stand. Like a misbehaving child such folks know that they can get attention by misbehaving -- so reverting only reinforces the attention-seeking behavior. After a while he (I'm betting it's a "he") will get bored and we can quietly fix things. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:19, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Robin Raphel[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Robin Raphel you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yash! -- Yash! (talk) 14:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Another user adding unsourced BLP's of people[edit]

I sent them a notice also-they have several of them that have not been tagged for deletion (someone did remove the BLP unsourced tags before for footballers saying they are the easiest to get-though one case was I couldn't find anyone with that name but still) Wgolf (talk) 19:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Jytdog reversed ny recent edits[edit]

Jytdog has been editing my Sawdust Art Festival page and has inserted historical information that is incorrect. At his suggestion, I just spent 3 hours, fixing the page, including adding viable references. Then he reversed everything and wrote that if i did that again, I would be banned from editing. I am embarassed to show people this page. Can you help me? or feel free to call me

Artwriter21532 June 2, 2015, 22:20 (UTC)

@Artwriter21532: I'm sorry but I agree with Jytdog, although his warning was a bit harsh I think, and "banning" has a different meaning than "blocking". However, you're getting up there in exhausting the patience we have with new editors. I tagged the article because it was written as an advertisement, myself and others trimmed it and reworded it to get it to a decent state, and then here you add things like independent-minded artists, extensive quotations as references (not acceptable) and overall just turned the article again into a brochure with a cute narrative. This is not your article in any sense of the word, you need to work within our guidelines or simply stop editing. My concern with your edits and the kind of language you use was the root of my suspicion that you have a conflict of interest - it's always the editors who are too close to the subject or have been given directions and material to transcribe that seem to be unable to see why the tone they use is inappropriate. A lot of the stuff you added as well had references to citations that did not support the claims. Why is it so difficult to understand that you must write what your sources say and nothing more? Please understand that as a community we'd rather have an incomplete stub than something that reads like a "Come visit us" brochure prepared by the people who run the event. I hope it doesn't get to that, but it will if you insist on trying to add material that is unsourced or promotional in nature. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
OK, I understand. But the historical information as it is is somewhat inaccurate - and if people who know about the Sawdust, read the page, they might not trust Wikipedia. I would like to make the page accurate.

My next talk message to you will be the text of my proposed changes.

Thank you!

Artwriter21532 June 2, 2015, 22:46 (UTC)

You can add as much historical information as you wish, so long as it's backed by sources and not written like a brochure. I'm not going to assess your material, add it to the article if you feel it is appropriate, or don't. If it's not, then we'll revert it and you can rework, etc. That's how Wikipedia works. Also, it helps when you make small, incremental changes. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:49, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't know what to do with your recent posting on your page about the Sawdust Art Festival page. Please advise!

Artwriter21532 June 3, 2015, 04:45 (UTC)

You mean the material I removed because I asked you not to post it here? You posted it in the article talk page. I'm not sure what it is that you want from me - if the material was removed once, what makes it suddenly be appropriate because you posted it in the talk page? You want someone else to fix it? Why don't you listen to what we have been telling you and simply correct it? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 05:05, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


I just dropped by to say thanks for closing the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Armstrong (diver) - it was a difficult call, considering the amount of debate it engendered. I just noticed that the poster in the thread above supplied personal information - perhaps you missed that, but I've removed it (apologises for refactoring your talk page). Can I suggest you might want to revdel that information? Cheers --RexxS (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

@RexxS: Thanks for that. Honestly I didn't notice, but they've been posting that in various places so I guess the removal is enough, unless they ask me to. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Hasq article[edit]

Hi, this article received a deletion notice recently and was deleted yesterday. Unfortunately I only found out this today. This is very disappointing as I (the author) did not have a chance to discuss what was wrong with it. Two questions I have now are: why it was marked for deletion in the first place and what steps should be taken to restore it. Thank you.Wladp (talk) 06:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I only closed the discussion. You are welcome to open a deletion review if you believe the opinions of the editors involved and/or the deletion rationale given by the nominator were incorrect. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:04, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Chris "Zeuss" Harris[edit]

Hello FRF! I noticed the Wiki page for producer Chris "Zeuss" Harris has been deleted. I'd like to help get it back up, with whatever fixes are necessary.

Please note that when one enters "ZEUSS" or "Chris Zeuss Harris" into the Wiki search engine, numerous results emerge, as he's mentioned in multiple entries on rock albums and bands.

He's produced record with Rob Zombie, Hatebreed, The Murderdolls, and another of other notable acts, and there are Wiki entries on many of his rock producer peers.

Here's some backup to what I'm saying:

<ref></ref> <ref></ref><ref></ref>

I'm guessing the previous entry lacked sources and/or proper formatting.

Can you help?

Thanks! VictorCreedxXx (talk) 21:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)VictorCreedxXx

Can you provide me with a link to the page please? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:31, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

a page that does have a copyright violation but not sure if I can put it for a speedy[edit]

ElrubiusOMG-the Youtube section is a copyright violation of a page in Spanish (which the prod was removed for that I put up for) but yeah not sure what to say. Wgolf (talk) 03:34, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: You know better than to leave a BLP like that! Take it to AFD, I searched and there's no way this guy meets WP:BIO. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 03:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Well I did have it as a Blp prod-but the fact the article claims to be the biggest youtuber in Mexico did seem to have some sort of notability Wgolf (talk) 03:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Not Mexico, Spain. Also, I take back the AFD thing, he does probably meet GNG at least. But that needs to be sourced and made a proper article if it is to exist beyond stubland. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 03:41, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


tengo una duda, no se si esta PU viola la política de usuarios lo veo promocional, usted podría mirar y si procede, borrarlo, si usted no puede borrar, le agradecería que le dijera al que puede, Gracias y Saludos. -- (talk) 23:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Efectivamente, la pagina estaba en contra de las politicas de las paginas de usuario y ha sido eliminada. Gracias. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:24, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Panzer 88[edit]

I'll just work on it from the draft. That way the original author will get credit if it becomes an article later on. Thanks Casseb (talk) 23:47, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Linking rules[edit]

I am not fully on board with your advice at the teahouse Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#linking_from_Wikipedia_articles_to_draft_article. Rather than debate it there I thought I would discuss it with you here to see if I'm missing something. If I am missing something and your advice is fine there will be no need to modify the teahouse answer but if I persuade you, then a nice clean adjustment to the advice can be made.

I agree that articles in main space should not have links to articles in draft space. However, your advice suggested that the reverse is also true; that articles in draft space should not have links to articles in main space. If we adopt that literally it means that all articles in draft should have no links and links should not be added until the draft is moved to main space. I don't believe that is our recommended practice.

Do you disagree?--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Not at all, of course not. No one would be able to make a decent draft :) Thank you for letting me know, I added a clarification to my answer just in case and feel free to chime in! §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:30, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarifying sentence; perfect.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:22, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

From the backlogs-not sure to tag this as a speedy or a prod[edit]

Mariachi Corazon De Acero-part of me wants to go with DB-band while another just says prod/afd-so what would you pick you think? It comes across as a band that is just there and nothing yet and too soon. But on the other hand....(I removed all the refs as they were to Facebook and Instagram) Wgolf (talk) 20:54, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: A7 + G11. Not even hard. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
I didn't even notice til about 10 minutes ago the users name was the same lol. Wgolf (talk) 21:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Speedy indeed and my searches found no good coverage to suggest notability. SwisterTwister talk 21:50, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Robin Raphel[edit]

In case you you missed. — Yash! (Y) 06:43, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

@Yash!: I did miss it, I forgot to add the GA transclude to my watchlist :\ Thank you, I'll work on those over the next few days. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:43, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Aisha Buhari[edit]

Hello frog,

How are you doing today? I created the article, Aisha Buhari, the current First Lady of Nigeria and the page was formerly redirected from her husband Muhammadu Buhari. Is there a way you can delete the redirect to give me the credit? Thanks in anticipation Froggy! Wikigyt@lk to M£ 20:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

@Wikicology: I would say no, because there's no reason based on policy or guidelines that I could think of. Don't worry about who created the redirect - content is more important. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

No Copyright Violation[edit]

Frog, I appreciate your hard work, but the Meaning and Culture of Grand Theft Auto page did not have a blatant Overdrive copyright violation. I corrected that problem immediately when I saw it. It was only reporting 14% when the page was deleted--and those were all common words and titles. If I did something else wrong please let me know. The page was identical in format to other approved pages.

Federicohazard (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)federicohazard

Nevertheless, the initial tagging of the bot was correct, since you pasted the second paragraph of this verbatim into the article. Either way those revisions had to go. And you shouldn't have removed the bot tag, or the speedy either. I can restore the last revision to a draft and let you work on it if you want. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

"that's fine bot"[edit]

Are you talking to bots now? Next thing you'll be eating virtual cookies. I'm confident that therapy could help you. I can recommend a really good Internet shrink.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Bots are people too! Well, kinda Face-grin.svg §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Erica Muhl Article[edit]

Hi there,

Everything I added came from a career profile in one book: The World of Women in Classical Music by Ann Gray.

I agree I can add these elements more slowly, over time, and change the tone. How do I cite this book better?

Thanks! (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Remember you need to paraphrase, not transcribe. That's also important because you don't want to get into copyright violations. Generally when there's a single source, the less material the better, otherwise it looks like an ad for the book and the subject. To learn how to cite your sources see WP:CITE (there's a link to a simplified guide at the top). When in doubt, go to the TeaHouse for general editing questions, and I'd recommend creating an account. Also, you'll want to read this if it applies to you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Question re: suspicious null edits[edit]

Hey, I just wanted to ask you something as an admin and you're the first name I picked from ANI-- on the Ratchet & Clank article, I've seen a couple IPs going in and making some weird edits over the last few weeks-- either completely null 1-character back-and-forth reverts, or just one-word changes in a bunch of unnecessary consecutive edits. I'm not sure if it constitutes obvious vandalism to justify a warning or an AIV report, as I'm willing to consider it could be a newbie to WP experimenting with editing... It's obviously not to speed up autoconfirmation, so the only other reason I can imagine is to give the appearance of an established contrib list, but since I'm not really sure about what should be done, and it seemed all-around suspect or at least annoying, I thought I'd ask. What's your take on it?

The IPs I've noticed doing this as far as the article history goes are and BlusterBlaster beepboop 14:57, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

@BlusterBlaster: Looks like primarily some vandalism mixed with some hesitant (maybe) editing... one of those IPs also removed some vandalism from the other. But mostly vandalism, perhaps because it's summer vacation time in the U.S. I semi-protected the article for a week, we'll see what happens when that expires. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks aplenty! Face-smile.svg BlusterBlaster beepboop 17:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

MetaProp NYC article speedy deletion[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

The page I wrote up, MetaProp NYC, was speedily deleted and I believe it was because it was thought to be advertising for the company. I'm not sure why and what was written that made it seem to be advertising the company; I simply wanted to write a description of the venture capital that wasn't already on Wikipedia. Can you please let me know what needs to be changed and how I can get the editing for my article back so I can fix whatever it is that made it deleted.

MetaProp NYC is the #1 real estate technology accelerator that recently opened applications for its 2015/2016 class of 8 startups. It has been in the news: . It also has its own website, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

In no way was I trying to advertise the company and I would like to change whatever it is in the article that I need to change in order to let the page be public.

Please let me know what I have to do to make MetaProp NYC's Wikipedia page public.

Thank you, Slyandvert (talk) 18:39, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually I didn't delete it originally, you see my account there because I deleted an unnecessary redirect that was created after the speedy deletion for advertisement. In any case, you'll want to read this carefully, and then this to proceed. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:42, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


How to create a draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:04, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:AFC is where. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:08, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Please now accept my article. This person is highly notable. A simple google search will bring lots o news articles about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:10, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Go create a draft, someone will review and accept it if the subject meets the notability guidelines. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I have created a draft. can you review please? I have provided many references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

A page I made back in September turned out to have the same article but a different name and has been listed as merge for a while.[edit]

Craig Davies (designer) and Craig Hayes (special effects artist), forgot about this till now-but yeah I made it as the other one was not linked anywhere and couldn't find the page till after I made it-wanted to point this out as I'm not sure what to say. Though the article I made is the name that he seems to be credited as. Wgolf (talk) 03:23, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Given that none of them has a particularly long history, I'd say pick the best one, merge and redirect the other. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:33, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Kitchen community listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Kitchen community. Since you had some involvement with the Kitchen community redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. —Lowellian (reply) 04:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)[edit]

I did not remove content, I merely moved it to Wikipedia talk:Freedom of Panorama 2015. Would you kindly revert it back? The discussion isn't getting the attention it deserves in the village pump. Like the SOPA discussion I strongly believe it needs its own subpage. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 20:28, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

You're free to revert yourself. Since you did not provide a clear summary of what you were doing I thought you had removed 67K of material (including comments by other editors) by mistake. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:33, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I apologize for the misunderstanding, you are absolutely right. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 20:34, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

A page I found on the new page feed where the other language article says copyright issues-yet I don't know for what[edit]

Ruggero Marino-no clue what page it is copyrighted from though (only reason why I noticed was because on the Italian page the top says copyright notice or something like that) Wgolf (talk) 22:24, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: The tag in the Italian article claims the copyvio is from here, although it seems to be dead and there is no Google cache of it. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:27, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

John Cryan[edit]

Dear FreeTRangeFrog, I have tried to protect that page again, but I dont know if it works. Please look after it. There is persistant removal of referenced material. Cruks (talk) 20:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

@Cruks: I invited the IP to provide a conflicting source, if they continue simply removing the information I will protect again. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:22, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

That very good, in the German article it appeared also today. They have protected now again the article until 27 September 2015. Cruks (talk) 20:24, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much...[edit]

...for your kind words of support over at my RfA. I shall do my best to be worthy of the trust placed in me. And to avoid getting myself any new notches on my block log any time soon. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: My pleasure. I'm sure you will be a great admin. And if you need help with anything, just holler. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 03:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks - I'll let you know if/when I need a hand. I'm sure it'll be sooner rather than later. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Deleted File[edit]

You recently, and rightfully, deleted File:Reading of Mao Quotations.wav for the reason of pure vandalism. I was wondering if there was any way for that file to be retrieved, and if so, could I have it? Mentitor (talk) 01:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but no. There's no easy way to get the file to you without email, and Wikipedia does not support attachments in emails (assuming you had enabled it in your account). More importantly, there is absolutely zero value to that file, none. At least the one for the Bhutanese passport was amusing. You might try contacting the original creator, I'm sure they have a copy on their computer. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 03:29, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

New Article Deleted[edit]

Hello, My name is Samantha.

I recently created an article titled Gaia Herbs, which was deleted on June 17th. This is my first article I have tried to publish on Wikipedia.The reason for the deletion was: G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. As I certainly did not want it to come across as "advertising" I have edited the article substantially and wondered if I could submit it again. I am also happy to send it to you first.

Please let me know how best to proceed.


Samanthalloyd (talk) 13:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

You're going to want to submit your draft here, and probably read through this as well. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

"Michael Barbuto" article Deleted[edit]

Hi there! My name is Michael Barbuto and I am new to wikipedia. I created a username/account for myself and then composed an article (about myself) to be posted to wikipedia, which I later found out is not allowed. As such, my article was deleted by you. My question: Is there a way to retrieve or recover my deleted article entitled, "Michael Barbuto"?? If so, is there a way to have it posted? Appreciate the help. (Mbarbuto (talk) 18:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)).

If you feel you meet this and/or this and can actually prove it via secondary sources (media coverage, not your own material or IMDb) then you're welcome to submit a draft here for review. This is also recommended reading. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

vandal report[edit]

JosephBarbero is at it again! And he's harassing me as well. He needs to be blocked permanently ASAP. Visokor (talk) 21:54, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@Visokor: I agree that's too much, especially coming back from the previous block. Please raise the issue at WP:ANI, I will comment. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I've put the issue up like you told me to. Visokor (talk) 22:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't see how threatening to block me permanently is going to make either of you or the entire Wikipedia site better. If you take a look at many of my edits, you would see that I am a very, very constructive and productive editor. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 18:22, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Luis Posada Carriles[edit]

I saw you tagged Luis Posada Carriles for POV issues. I am willing to lend a hand if you are able to comment on the talk page about what you think needs to be rectified. Cheers! - Location (talk) 18:09, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind. I saw the banner. - Location (talk) 18:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
@Location: Sorry about that, I should have added a comment in the talk page in addition to the banner. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
No problem. I commented in WP:BLPN where we can get a general idea of what to do. Depending upon how things unfold there, the discussion can always be moved to the article's talk page. - Location (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Please explain on the Talk page why you put the banner there. Or else remove the banner. Chisme (talk) 23:20, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
The talk page banner points to the discussion in WP:BLPN, but I posted on the talk page to make it a bit more obvious. - Location (talk) 23:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
@Chisme: My bad, should have added a comment. Like Location says, the discussion is at WP:BLPN. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 00:03, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

SPI report but I can't remember the sock masters name[edit] I know it is part of that sadman group but I can't remember the masters name is the problem. Wgolf (talk) 19:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Was it Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vamsiraj? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks-found the actual original spi for this guy and put some db-banned up now. Wgolf (talk) 23:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for your help on updating Peter Hancock! I really appreciate it.--FacultiesIntact (talk) 06:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Comparison of crowdfunding services[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog, you deleted the Edit i made:

Could you explain why? Greets D

As I said in my summary, WP:WTAF. Adding entries to lists where an article about the subject does not exist is not really a good idea. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 15:23, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Another one adding unsourced BLP's[edit]

Here: Thing is usually whenever I put up prods for footballers I usually run into some sort of problem like "don't put deletion tags for people easily to find pages" or something like that-which really does not send the message across to not put up unsourced BLPs. (Also sometimes I have had blp prods denied since they have had links to Facebook and/or Twitter which are not sources at all)Wgolf (talk) 21:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

If they remove the PRODs without adding a reliable source then just report them to AIV or myself or any admin, otherwise just let them run the course. If you feel they don't meet the NFOOTY guidelines then AFD is the way to go, but you need to do some homework. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:46, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Kat mano[edit]

Mildly confused, what's up with the sockpuppet block for Kat mano? Was the user found through checkuser, or was it a behavioral thing? Nyttend (talk) 23:24, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Behavioral. See discussion about "A2Z Support" at WP:REFUND and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Asimbwp. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:27, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


Dear Frog, you have deleted the page BGMEA showing the causes of promotion of the organization. I have already contested the deletion. However, I yet to receive any answer from you. Nirnasim (talk) 05:09, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

I didn't delete that one. I deleted another one. Which should tell you that you should be going through Articles for Creation instead of repeatedly recreating material that will be deleted on sight because it is inappropriate. Give WP:PSCOI a read if it applies to you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Help with Honeywell[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog! I was wondering if you could help me improve the article for Honeywell. You were so helpful with Peter Hancock (CEO), so I thought you might actually be able to review what I've been working on in my sandbox here. I've been trying to introduce new sections incrementally (most recently the revised acquisitions section), but if you have the time to look at all of it, that would be fantastic. At this point however, I'm focused on improving the company history section so that it reads chronologically, rather than jumping around loosely defined eras. If you have a minute to review it in full or in part, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again!--FacultiesIntact (talk) 18:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

@FacultiesIntact: I'll be happy to help. I will take a look at this early next week. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks!--FacultiesIntact (talk) 00:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey there FreeRangeFrog, hope you've been well. I've been away for a while, but I was wondering if you still have time to help me out with Honeywell. I was hoping that there would have been some activity on the talk page during my little sabbatical, but it doesn't seem like there's been any progress. Do you have any ideas on how we could move forward?--FacultiesIntact (talk) 22:55, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Expired PROD[edit]

Hello, could you please delete this expired PROD Louis Rooney when you have a moment. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 21:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

@JMHamo: Yes check.svg Done §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Why deleted Snehil Sharma[edit]

May I know the reasons to delete "Snehil Sharma" Article? --Tanishrao2015 (talk) 12:54, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Sure: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snehil Sharma. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Blanked talk page[edit]

You are correct of course; it's not Promo. Just pathetic... Cheers! Zigmundbratwurst (talk) 01:00, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Captain Beyond[edit]

Please update the page of the band until the actually formation :) Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Homemade chocolate chip cookies, fresh out of the oven, November 2009.jpg
Pavlov's RfA reward

Thank for !voting at my recent RfA. You voted Support so you get a whopping three cookies, fresh from the oven!
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC).

IP User[edit]

I have repeatedly reverted their edits on David Muir. You blocked them before. This is a list of their contributions. Can you block them again? Thank you~ - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 23:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: Same thing after coming back from the previous block, so escalated to 1 month. If this goes on we'll configure PC1 on the article. Thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@FreeRangeFrog: You are welcome. Thank you for blocking them. PC1, meaning protection status that only autoconfirmed users can edit the page? - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 23:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@Kiraroshi1976: Correct. But we'll see, that tends to be a sort of last resort for long-term vandalism. If they're limited to one or two IPs then we can block instead. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@FreeRangeFrog: We shall see, indeed. General Hospital had to be like that from now on which is sad. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 23:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Followup to yesterday's events[edit]

Hello FRF. In the dealings with FF2 yesterday I know why this summary was removed. I am wondering if this one is eligible for the same action. If not no worries. Thanks for your time and enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 15:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

@MarnetteD: I would say definitely yes. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I appreciate it. MarnetteD|Talk 17:20, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Shibu G Suseelan[edit]

Hello FreeRangeFrog, I am the author of Shibu G Suseelan wikipedia page. I cannot find any valid references and cannot find any importance of that wiki article nowadays. Please check the author's name you can find me. Hope you will process my request for Speedy Deletion of Shibu G Suseelan.

Thanks, Jose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josu4u (talkcontribs)

@Josu4u: Please sign your comments! The problem is that there are other authors. You can try PROD instead, since you're the creator it shouldn't be contested by anyone. Otherwise AFD is the way to go. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

McKinsey & Company[edit]

This spammer is quite persistent[4]

Do you think I should just revert this myself at this point? I have started doing so on Babyfirst, where some kind of very similar linkbait/spam/vandalism has been going on, but that one did not involve competitors. CorporateM (Talk) 20:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

@CorporateM: Knock yourself out, I don't think anyone would object. I certainly don't. It's borderline disruptive editing at this point. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:26, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Page Deleted - Believe it's an error[edit]


The page for the organization I work for, NewTV in Newton, MA was deleted by you on July 11. I believe this was in error as it was an information page and the reason cited was that the page was purely for advertisement. I'd like the page to be restored. If you have any questions please feel free to ask me. If you found a particular part of it did not meet guidelines, please let me know.

Thank You,

NewtonTV (talk)

NewTV (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) There was no error, the article was turned into a blatant advertisement by you or someone associated with the company. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:08, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

User: FreeRangeFrog - Can I recreate the page and change the nature of it then? If not, what do you suggest I do?

Yes, you may submit a draft for review here, because you have a conflict of interest. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Revisiting Peter Hancock (CEO)[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog! Hope you're doing well. I was wondering if you had a minute to look over some changes I've made to Hancock's BLP in my sandbox. I was looking over some of the references and found conflicting information about whether he was hired to AIG Financial Products or AIG itself, and after some research realized that he was hired directly to AIG. Additionally, he is no longer on the board of the Japan Society. Here's the diff. Thanks!--FacultiesIntact (talk) 20:55, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@FacultiesIntact: That is about as non-controversial as it gets... if you want to go ahead and make the change to the live article I have no problem at all. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the vote of confidence! Just took care of it myself.--FacultiesIntact (talk) 23:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
On a completely separate note, have you had a chance to look at any of my draft for Honeywell? I know it's a lot of content to work through, so I totally understand if you haven't.--FacultiesIntact (talk) 22:28, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
@FacultiesIntact: I did actually go over it and then I spaced out and forgot to do what I was going to do, which is post a comment on the talk page inviting comments, which I have now done. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:21, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Need admin eyes[edit]

Hi FreeRange! Many thanks for your recent support. :) Unrelated to that, I'm picking you at random in an administrative capacity. I'm involved in a discussion at Talk:Balochistan, Pakistan. I know nothing about this region or their politics, blah blah. I became aware of Balochistan a while ago in my capacity as a gnome. About a month ago I noticed some edit warring between a couple of IP editors. One of the IPs was trying to add sourced content to the article about human rights concerns in the province, content that seemed reasonable to include, but others kept reverting it. The IP started a RfC and I subsequently notified a few WikiProjects like Human Rights, Pakistan, Geography to get outside comments in case we had a situation where page regulars were inappropriately trying to suppress content. But of course, the IP turned out to be a sock operator, so after all the sock's comments were struck through the RfC became a mess. I closed the RFC as a procedural matter, with no objections, then started a new one, minus the sock edits. I copied all the original comments over, explained the reason for the do-over, etc. Fast-forward, two editors (who are essentially SPAs) have started levying accusations and warnings about personal attacks, "aggressors" (whatever that means) and it looks to me like they're teaming up with red herrings to divert focus from the discussion and to maybe prod others into misbehaving. (I've had to ask one of the editors to stop voting Oppose over and over, which he appears to be taking as hostile. See these comments and one of the users has twice said, "RFC re-do going no where. Might be archieved", which suggests that he might try tampering with the RfC.) I've considered filing an SPI report on them, but I'm not quite confident they're the same person. Meat, is of course an option. One of them has taken to throwing around policies and guidelines like a boss, which is suspicious since he has 21 edits to his name. Anyhow, I'm asking for you to please watchlist the article and keep me honest so that I'm not crossing any lines. Of course I don't believe I am, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to get an outside eye. If you're game, thanks for your help! Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:27, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I have no expertise whatsoever on that subject but I'll keep an eye on it. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:05, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Nor do I! However, you do have expertise in being sure I, and other users, are keeping stuff civil and participating in constructive discussion. :) Since it looks to me like they're trying to set up a ridiculous bullying/POV complaint about me, I'm hoping to pre-empt that by having an admin keep an eyeball on things. Thanks, my friend! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Response from Stephen J. Lawrence (AKA Stephen Lawrence)[edit]

Thank you for the opportunity to answer your questions. I am a self-employed composer. I have freelanced all my life. I simply do not have time to write, for example, to the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences to ask them to "verify" that they awarded to me three Emmy Awards and countless Emmy nominations, and, I wouldn't know whom to write to. The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) awarded me three Gold Records but, again, I wouldn't know whom to write to ask them to verify this. And I don't have time to write to all the movie studios and television networks (and wouldn't know whom to write to) to ask them to verify that I scored television shows and movies for them. Although it would be embarrassing to me, I could write to Marlo Thomas and ask her to verify that she gave me the following quote for the Endorsements page of my Website:

“I’ve worked with Stephen several times in television and records. He composed some of my favorite songs for my children’s album and television special “Free To Be…You And Me,” and wonderful music for my TV movie “It Happened One Christmas.” – Marlo Thomas

I could write to Sheldon Harnick, legendary Broadway lyricist (Fiddler On The Roof and many others) to ask him to verify that he gave me this quote for the Endorsements page on my Website:

"Stephen invited me to provide the lyrics for an animated half-hour version of “The Tale of Peter Rabbit” for HBO, starring Carol Burnett. I’m awfully glad I did because it was a joyous collaboration and, if I say so myself, we came up with a delightful score!" -Sheldon Harnick.

Regarding the photo of me, Mary Lou Williams, and George Wallington, my father paid the photographer and I inherited ownership of the photo when he died. I never knew the name of the photographer. Mary Lou Williams and George Wallington are also deceased.

I asked my Website designer to write the Wikipedia page with my guidance out of desperation. For example, The IMDb (Internet Movie Database) has a GREAT DEAL of incorrect information about me. I have tried many times to correct this but it was so complicated and difficult that I gave up.

Perhaps this will help: I have a rather elaborate website ( Click on "Photos". This page includes photos of me with many of the celebrities I have worked with. It also includes reviews, including some from The New York Times, which mention my name.

If you would like more information, please write to me and I will do my best to answer your questions. redacted

Thank you for taking the time to read this message.

Stephen J. Lawrence (AKA Stephen Lawrence) Lebedinsky (talk) 22:52, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Lebedinsky: I'm sure all of that is true, but we require published sources. If you say "Steven J. Lawrence has a pet duck" then that better be followed by a media source (book, magazine, website) that supports the claim that Mr. Lawrence has a duck. Please do so, on the article. Until nothing is unsourced. This is not negotiable because it is a pillar of how Wikipedia works. If something is not sourced then it can be removed, or the tags at the top can be left there until that happens. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Signpost paid editing[edit]

Do you have any interest in writing two paragraphs about paid editing for the SignPost?

I offered to help put something together that's a collection of two-paragraph viewpoints that answer two questions: What is the overall effect of paid editing on the project and what can be done to handle it better.

The idea is that a lot of the Signpost stories on paid editing are written by editors with strong opinions, extreme views, or financial interests, and I wanted something a little more balanced and reasonable. Editors with strong views are never ideal in article-space either!

What I've started on is located here if you have the time/interest. CorporateM (Talk) 15:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

@CorporateM: Yah, I thought about what I could write and came up with something. I'll add it there when I have it down. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Just wanted to remind you. I think you may be the last one. I pinged a couple other folks, but haven't heard back from them. CorporateM (Talk) 19:26, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@CorporateM: Done! §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Akhtar Raza Khan[edit]

Hello mr.FreeRangeFrog as I saw that the article with name Akhtar Raza Khan has been deleted because of copyright problem.I think someone who dont have any knowledge of the rules on wikipedia would have created that.

Now, I decided to creat the article again abiding by the rules and laws.But it says only an administrator can creat it.Therefore I am requesting you to please restore the article I will improve that article.I will take out the contents which violates copyright rules. Or you may simply creat a new article with that name with a few lines I will thereafter improve that adding more words and sources...

It will be your kind favour on me If you accept my request.

Thanking you for reading my request.

Ejaz92 (talk) 11:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

@Ejaz92: Please create a draft here. The reviewer will ensure the subject meets the inclusion guidelines, that there is no copyright infringement and will request the title to be unprotected if the draft is approved. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.I benefited from your advice and wrote a draft.I will be very thankful of you if you reveiw the draft soon Draft:Akhtar Raza Khan.

Ejaz92 (talk) 20:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Well I don't review articles, but I have to say that's a lot better than the previous version, I hope it's approved and promoted. Good job. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:47, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

But, my friend, I am astonished why they tagged it for deletion.They say its an hoax. Please help me.Atleast remove the deletion templete.Or do what u can. Ejaz92 (talk) 16:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I posted a comment on the draft's talk page. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks alot friend

Ejaz92 (talk) 10:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Pics on Wikipedia Commons Being Used on Wikipedia, Acceptable?[edit]

Hello, is it all right to use a photo on Wikipedia Commons to an article on Wikipedia? It would be a photo that relates to the Wikipedia article. I had another editor tell me not to use any of their stored images on Wikipedia Commons (and I have not done this), I didn't even know about them until they contacted me about an edit I'd made on some random article, it was not an edit to a photograph, just some text. I was just wondering if I could add the link to this image on a Wikipedia article. Or are photos that someone uploads to Wikipedia Commons only for use by the person who uploaded them? Neptune's Trident (talk)

@Neptune's Trident: I'm puzzled by that exchange in your talk page. There is no way that anyone can prevent you from using those images, so long as they are appropriate for the article. That's the whole point of Commons. I'm also not sure what being the author of an IMDb bio has to do with the Wikipedia article. Perhaps Blythe Spirit can explain their rationale? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Great! Now that I have an okay to use any Wikipedia Commons pics (on the proper articles) I want from an administrator I'm cool! Thanks! Neptune's Trident (talk)
You don't need my permission, I'm only clarifying that you don't need anyone else's, either. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 05:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

FreeRangeFrog, please refrain from giving others permission to use my pictures of René Bazinet, without my consent. Neptune's Trident and NeilN, common courtesy and consideration should be exercised in such cases and the ownership of a photographer’s work should be respected. I had previously composed and posted a comprehensive profile/bio, of René, only to experience others making inappropriate edits and finally being notified by an administrator that due to a lack of published references it didn’t meet Wikipedia standards, in any event. I had originally added the images, which are copyrighted, to accompany my composition, but was under the misconception that others could only use them with my permission. The policies regarding permission and image utilization were ambiguously stated and I did not interpret them correctly, as it turned out. Neither was I aware that once they were added to Wikimedia I relinquished the opportunity to remove them, from that site. However, after a talk with my lawyer, who assured me that your organization is not entitled to keep them, rather than file a contentious lawsuit in order to protect my work - by demanding their removal - I decided not to press the issue. I’m sure you can understand why I wouldn’t want my photographic work to be used by unauthorized people to represent their text, especially, after I deleted all of my unappreciated contributions from the René Bazinet page. Thanking you all, in advance, for honoring my wishes regarding the use of the René Bazinet images, I took of him, without my express approval. Blythe Spirit (talk) 11:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Note --NeilN talk to me 13:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

como saber que el existe?[edit] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Even with my poor Spanish I can't make out what you're asking here, sorry. "How to know he exists"? Are you saying the subject of that article does not exist? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

My Sandbox[edit]

Hi there. I was wondering if you could delete the General Hospital Awards User sand box for me and move the stuff I have in my sandbox in to a subpage of the sandbox named List of General Hospital Awards. I'm having trouble. I then wanted to create another user sandbox subpage Unbelievable!!!!! 2015 film. I would then have my sandbox have links to those pages. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: I'm confused. You don't need to create a subpage of a sandbox, you can just create a subpage under your own account. Like User:Kiraroshi1976/List of General Hospital Awards? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're asking, sorry. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
@FreeRangeFrog: Thanks. Although there is a page out there that is User:Kiraroshi1976/sandbox/General Hospital Awards that should be deleted. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 16:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
@Kiraroshi1976: Yes check.svg Done §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
@FreeRangeFrog: Thanks! - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 17:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


If I re-post the article under the same name, but with changed content, would that be OK with you? [[Vladaceric (talk) 10:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)]]

How about you go here and create a draft instead. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, I am currently rewriting the article in order to fulfill all Wikipedia standards, and will be uploading the new version as suggested. Thank you. [[Vladaceric (talk) 20:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)]]

Hi, I've just uploaded a new, revised draft of the article. Could you please review it and, if it satisfies Wikipedia standards, please publish it. Thanks in advance. [[[User:Vladaceric|Vladaceric]] (talk) 22:35, 2 August 2015 (UTC)][edit]

Hello Again

I am (redacted). Thank you for removing the content I previously indicated.

However I did not realize my message originally sent to you would be published under the "TALK" section for West Adams Preparatory High School. Is there anyway you could please remove that info from the talk section? I am just trying to move ahead in life now. I can still provide you with the Court Order that dismissed my case if need be. I do appreciate your help.

My email if you need it is (redacted)

Because that discussion explains the rationale for the removal of the material, I would rather not outright delete it. However, I did redact part of what you wrote (since it was the problem part of the article) and hatted the section. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:31, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


Hi! As it seems, the page you deleted earlier (Choi Byung Hoon) has been recreated. Please advise on what to do. Thanks, GAB (talk) 20:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@GeneralizationsAreBad: Deleted again (exactly the same content) and user advised about COI and so on. Thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:07, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. GAB (talk) 20:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
It's back again, under the name, Choi byung hoon. This is getting ridiculous. GAB (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
It wasn't as spammy now so I moved it to a draft since they still have a conflict of interest. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 00:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again. GAB (talk) 00:54, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Box Hockey - Not Constructive Edit[edit]

Hi. You removed my edit to Box Hockey

At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Box hockey, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed.

and I don't understand why. I added information about the box hockey product manufactured by International Sports Corporation, essentially not much different in content to the one on Box Hockey International.

As there are only two companies in North America manufacturing box hockey products and they are significantly different I don't understand why my addition would be considered 'not constructive'.

I added some new content with references, and edited for brevity, and added a photo under the modern equipment heading to the best of my ability.

I'm new to this and don't want to contravene any rules / policies so if you can tell me how best to correct the content so it might be considered 'constructive' I'd be happy to hear.

Thanks for the work you do.

Neutral notice[edit]

You might be interested in a discussion at [5] which you had previously shown an interest in [6]. Collect (talk) 00:40, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

@Collect: Thanks. I don't think that's a sourcing issue but rather a BLP one, although looking at the article now it seems it was expanded and given more substantial meaning than what it was when I removed it for apparent lack of relevancy. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Sunnies Studios[edit]

Hi, I just wanted to know why you nominated the page Sunnies Studios for speedy deletion? Most of the sources cited were online versions of local newspapers and magazines. I also patterned the write-up after the Warby Parker Wikipedia page to avoid creating content that sounds like advertising. I would really appreciate your help and feedback so I know how to improve the article. Thanks and hope to hear from you soon! Spsantos (talk) 02:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

What is your relationship with the company? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Page deletion...[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

The page on Clearswift has been deleted, in the log it says there was advertising. It hasn't changed in 18+ months, so not too sure why the sudden change - was there any warning that this was going to happen? If there are specific issues, can you please enumerate and I will edit the restored page accordingly.


Regards, Guy2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy2012 (talkcontribs) 13:31, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Built on an innovative Deep Content Inspection engine managed and controlled by a fully integrated policy center, Clearswift’s solutions support a comprehensive Information Governance strategy resulting in data being managed and protected effortlessly. As a global organization, Clearswift operates out of offices in Europe, Australia, Japan and the United States. Clearswift has a partner network of more than 900 resellers across the globe. was just the beginning. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Rahul Verma[edit]

Rahul Verma is protected from creation, so only administrators can create it. I have noticed that article “Rahul Verma” was deleted 5 times in last so many years, but it was never related to Rahul Verma (activist). Since the name is available with the clause only admin can create it. Please see if it can be unprotected and redirected i.e Rahul Verma (activist) to Rahul Verma. Thanks Shibanihk (talk) 06:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Shibanihk: Done, moved. Thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:09, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate your help. Rgds Shibanihk (talk) 01:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I preferred your notification[edit] was more informative than mine! CassiantoTalk 19:07, 4 August 2015 (UTC)


If the Gamergate article is under a 500/30 restriction, is there any reason why AmericanEnki should be allowed to build a POV fork in their user space? [7] --NeilN talk to me 00:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

  • User space is unrestricted. I just can't publish it. AmericanEnki (talk) 03:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Your draft is a POV fork at best, and userpace is not "unrestricted". §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
@Neil: I'm pretty sure they can't do that, although I wonder how that will play out at MfD. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

It's okay to delete a page which will be semi-protected few years later, I just loved starting it.[edit]

As the headline says. Plus, even if it won't be here in the future because of (anything personal), it's okay, I can handle this, it's simple & we won't fight for this really. thank you for your effort.

A simple advice, I love Wikipedia and a still love it, sometimes bad "EXP" will make people hate an amazing and wonderful website like Wikipedia. However, I still love it.

Wish you don't take it as a personal thing because it's not. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eslam Yosef (talkcontribs) 06:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi there!

I have received your message. Thank you ! I will be careful :)

Camille — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camlacaze (talkcontribs) 18:55, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Ttflybless[edit]

Sorry to bother you with this user again, but they're asking again for an unblock. Among other things, they say: "I really need to finish editing the wiki page based on Mark's factual background as soon as possible". Sounds a bit suspicious... —George8211 / T 19:11, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@George8211: They obviously have a conflict of interest, as do most of the SPAs and IPs that have edited that article in the past. Obviously even if they are unblocked they won't be allowed to do the same things they were doing. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:13, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Request to Restore the page of Sghair Ouled Ahmed[edit]

Hi, I kindly ask you to restore the page of Sghair Ouled Ahmed. It's about a prominent Tunisian poet who have many local and regional awards.--Salah Almhamdi (talk) 13:31, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Salah Almhamdi: I will not restore it directly, but I can restore it to a draft so you can work on it, because it was inappropriately written at best. Let me know. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Alright, it's at Draft:Sghair Ouled Ahmed. Please see WP:N and WP:CITE, and if you need help editing please use the Tea House. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:05, 7 August 2015 (UTC)


has been recreated. —George8211 / T 16:38, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@George8211: Done, thanks. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:42, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Bear with me (video game) deletion[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

I'd like to know how to improve the Bear with me (video game) article without getting it deleted. The previous writer (from our studio) didn't respect the guideline, and I'd want to improve the article as much as I can. There is without a doubt enough information about this game to ensure it's existence on wikipedia, due to the fact that the very same game was previously released as an Alpha version. Considering this information, I conclude that it could be considered as an almost-done product, still half-through the production and on it's way to a final release.

There is a quite big amount of information my colleague forgot to mention or was poorly written, leading to it's deletion.

If you have any suggestions on how to improve this article or give an exact reason why it shouldn't exist, feel free to respond.

--PetraStev (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Your colleague was repeatedly advised to follow our conflict of interest guidelines, the most basic of which is to submit a draft here instead of repeatedly recreating the article and having it be deleted for obvious advertising. Apparently it took a block on that account to have you lot come to your senses. So that's what you need to do as well. I have no idea if it should exist or not, that's up to the reviewers and the notability guidelines, but what I am sure about is that we don't want you or anyone else associated with the subject creating the article directly. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
One good question though, after reading the conflict of interest guidelines, does it mean that I should completely stay away from the specific games the company makes and only request edits? I must point out that in my situation, I'm not in a close relationship with the company and am considered as an outsider. Basically, I get that neutrality in this case is the key. A lot of the things I would like to write about, I have to go through a lot of research. My colleague is in the same situation, but didn't respect Wikipedia's guidelines, and I had nothing to do with his work, but would like to write about the topic in a manner Wikipedia expects from me. --PetraStev (talk) 23:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
So you're saying you are not associated with the company but they're paying you (and the other person) to do this? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:09, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Exactly, therefore I hope you understand the situation and can at least advise me on what to do next or better yet, warn me what not to do if that is really the case. --PetraStev (talk) 23:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Well then you're going to want to read through the Terms of Use, and then this and later this. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Inanna Publications[edit]

Dear FreeRangeFrog,

Thanks so much for your helpful suggestions. I'm learning how to create a page on Inanna Publications, which was deleted, in my Sandbox. I've done what I can, but not sure if I'm on the right track. I'd like to have you to check it, but I don't know how to submit it to you. Can you help me out?

Your help is very much appreciated.


1001Bookworm (talk) 19:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

@1001Bookworm: I added a submit banner at the top of your sandbox. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Dear FreeRangeFrog,

Thanks for your efficiency. I've just submitted it.

All the best,

1001Bookworm (talk) 20:40, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I am not making false changes in THE GREAT GAMA page[edit]

Dear sir, I completely agree with you to make any changes we should have some evidences to prove ourself and I also believe in my words The changes which i have been made in "THE GREAT GAMA's" page is absolutely correct because, I personally know his family succeeders but i dont have any verifiable evidences to show you that my written words are true and correct as you know that many of the Great personality's families are now vanished because nobody wants to know about them. i hope you you will take my words in good sense and understand what i am going to convey to the society of our time.

yours truly

HK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkauser7716 (talkcontribs) 05:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Self-research isn't enough to prove the reliability of a source. See WP:Reliable. (talk) 05:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
The answer is no, not unless you have sources to back up the claims you want to add. See WP:TRUE. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 07:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page submission[edit]

Hi Freerangefrog,

How are you, I am trying to create a page for our company CEO but its I can't anymore. am getting the following.

Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Manoj Shanker in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.

  • This page is protected from creation, so only administrators can create it.
  • Search for "Manoj Shanker" in existing articles.
  • Look for pages within Wikipedia that link to this title.

Kindly assist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambh12 (talkcontribs) 14:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Of course you are, you created it twice and twice it was deleted because it was written in an inappropriate tone, not to mention almost wholly unsourced if I remember. Wikipedia is not a directory of people, and you have a conflict of interest (declared now), so I suggest you go here and try submitting a draft instead. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
And I just nominated this astounding spammy mess for deletion as well. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


Wikipedia is not for made up organizations that exist only in a Wordpress blog website with terrible spelling and grammar. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

oz, trolls, and I[edit]

I recently started policing the Dr. Oz WP page. It seems to be under constant vandalism for at least the past 2 years.. The bots and wikipedian's that try to correct this (including youerself) have missed certain information that the trolls were successful for removing for nearly 2 years. I recently restored this info and will keep a close eye on it. If you are an admin would you please consider a permanent protection block? a temporary block isn't working, the vandalism hasn't stopped. I will watch your talk page in the hope that you reply to my request. Void burn (talk) 23:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

@Void burn: I am certainly thinking we're getting to the point where WP:PC1 might be a good idea for that article. We'll give it one more go and if there's vandalism after the current protection expires I'll go ahead and do that. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 00:18, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
@FreeRangeFrog: Now that the temp protection is gone The henchmen of Oz are back at it. Permanent protection maybe? Void burn (talk) 00:23, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sumit naithani SD[edit]

Hi FRF, I think you might remember this guy. I reported him to ANI in Mid July for tons of copyright issues on his talk page, along with his uploading of watermarked images. He returned as Sumit SD, who I just blocked. However, there's a new watermarked image here: File:Objection_My_God.png Can ye help? Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

What am I, an idiot? I just realized like a champ that I can delete the photo myself. Confused.png Sorry! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
@Cyphoidbomb: Please turn in your mop so I can add a "Most Definitely Can Delete Stuff Around Here" button and give it back Face-grin.svg §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:44, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Claire Watt-Smith[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog, Thank you for helping me at the Teahouse. I had the same issue with the article about Claire Watt-Smith. I added a deletion tag on that article as the subject is not notable and it seems like somebody close to the subject had written the article. However, the deletion tag was also removed from that article by an editor. Could you please take a look at this article too? Thanks a lot again for your help. I appreciate it.--Sheroddy (talk) 14:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for helping me, a new editor, at the Teahouse! Sheroddy (talk) 14:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
@Sheroddy: That's because speedy deletion is very limited in scope. Your custom rationales for deletion are not likely to be accepted by an administrator. So what you need to do is use WP:AFD instead. Remember that you need to do some work before you nominate it, because the onus is on you to prove the subject is not notable. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Personal memorial[edit]

Hi, I am on vacation and not going to edit things anyway, but given your interest, please see my comment on the talk page of Ed Esber. Thanks. Sky is big, Emperor far away (talk) 22:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of article Rajatsubhra Majumdar[edit]

the following article Rajatsubhra_Majumdar was deleted under speedy deletion ... i want to recreate it and or delete the offending text with your kind guidance please help Joyshankerdas (talk) 07:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Please go here and submit a draft for review, which you can work on without fear of speedy deletion. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:06, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


Hello, I've been blocked from editing by another administrator, on a different computer I sometimes use, even though I have not violated any rules, the reason is that computer's IP uses a proxy IP or something, I've edited from that other PC many times with no problems.

Can you please help me get this ban lifted? It doesn't seem fair. Thanks! Neptune's Trident (talk) 02:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

@Neptune's Trident: You may have been caught up on an autoblock, maybe a library or some such? See WP:AUTOBLOCK. Generally such blocks should not prevent you from logging in. But that page has instructions on how to solve the issue if you can't even log in. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:57, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I can log in from that computer, just can't edit. Is there anyway to get around that so I can edit from that computer as well? Neptune's Trident (talk) 05:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

What message are you seeing when you try to edit? Can you paste the text here? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:55, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Here it is:

You are currently unable to edit Wikipedia. You are still able to view pages, but you are not currently able to edit, move, or create them.

Editing from has been blocked (disabled) by Bbb23 for the following reason(s):

The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be an open or anonymizing proxy. To prevent abuse, these proxies may be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

If you are using an open proxy you will need to turn it off to edit Wikipedia. If you believe you are not running an open proxy, the most likely cause is that another customer using your IP address who was previously assigned this IP address was running an open proxy. You may appeal this block by adding the following text on your talk page: unblock|reason=Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. Place any further information here. Neptune's Trident (talk) 01:02, 20 August 2015 (UTC). If you are using a Wikipedia account and wish to keep your IP address private you can email the functionaries team. More rarely, your network equipment or that of your service provider may be misconfigured or compromised by malicious software (such as a virus). In some cases, this can be remedied by logging into the secure server. For more information, see the WikiProject on Open Proxies. Administrators: The IP block exemption user right should only be applied to allow users to edit using an open or anonymizing proxies in exceptional circumstances, and they should usually be directed to the functionaries team via email. If you intend to give the IPBE user right, a CheckUser needs to take a look at the account. This can be requested most easily at SPI Quick Checkuser Requests. Unblocking an IP or IP range with this template is highly discouraged without at least contacting the blocking administrator.

This block has been set to expire: 04:46, 15 February 2016.

Even if blocked, you will usually still be able to edit your user talk page and email other editors and administrators.

Other useful links: Blocking policy · Username policy · Appealing blocks: policy and guide If the block notice is unclear, or it does not appear to relate to your actions, please ask for assistance as described at Help:I have been blocked. Neptune's Trident (talk) 01:02, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

@Neptune's Trident: Thank you, that's helpful. @Bbb23: Can we IP exempt this account? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm more interested in whether I should have hard-blocked the IP. Mike V, you're better at this than I am. Should the IP be blocked? Should it be blocked but not hard-blocked?--Bbb23 (talk) 01:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) One more thing: @Mike, take whatever action you think is appropriate.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:47, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
They're rarely hardblocked, especially if they have a large amount of edits to many different topical areas and some good edits as well. That sort of implies there's a lot of people behind the IP. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi all! Normally, open proxies can be hard blocked. I've looked at the specific IP above and it belongs to SurfControl, a company that funnels your web traffic through their service and can restrict access to certain content. It's a paid service that requires authentication and is catered towards businesses, schools, organizations, etc., not end users. Since it's not openly accessible to others, I've reduced the block to anon only. (Think of it like a closed proxy.) Also, IP block exemptions are usually a tool of last resort when an editor has no other way to edit (e.g. great firewall of China) or if there is a serious, legitimate concern that requires one to edit anonymously. As Neptune's Trident was able to edit through other means, an IPBE wouldn't be necessary. Mike VTalk 03:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Mike.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:57, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
@Mike V: Thanks Mike, appreciated. @Neptune's Trident: You should be good to go. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:07, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Neptune's Trident (talk) 04:08, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

i know dont type in those one words i understand[edit]

aw man again i was just trying to give myself a gift so do i basically have to go all through the government come on help me out please i know dont type them one words in thats how your page end up as a zero aww man — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles Eugene Hill (doctor (talkcontribs) 02:28, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Sir or Maam I think you accidently typed in the wrong word on my page probably trying to help[edit]

The page I have created is not visible I appreciate you for trying to help is probably what you were do as your job but when you looked at the page I made you more then liking let you mind slip and try to so me appreciation by saying thank you for sponsoring Wikipedia Incorporation all I cam tell to leave a message short is if you or another type in some of the words that's on this website you page will be gone could you please help me get it back it you can please I thank you for trying if you cant then no more page i'll have by you more than liking saying thank you could you take it off my page please I'm begging you see how I choose my words carefully while typing you cant edit anothers page with some of the words on here you can only vandalize it please undo do what you typed in also you cant go on the page and take off words of another persons work you'll be trying to make a page with their name if you are an administrator I exist Charles Eugene Hill (doctor Charles Eugene Hill (doctor (talk) 02:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. You came to Wikipedia to create a page about yourself, which is never a good idea. It looked like something you'd put on Facebook, so it was marked for deletion and deleted. I left a message in your talk page explaining that Wikipedia is not a social network or a personal page web host. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 08:46, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Change year in description of photo[edit]

Could you change the year in the description at the bottom of this Norman Rockwell photo/painting to 1967? I can't seem to change it, it is not a 1976 photo:

Thanks. Neptune's Trident (talk) 02:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Just click on the edit tab at the top...? But it looks like that has more problems than a date. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Brendan Harrington[edit]

Hello. Is there anything I can do to fix the article Brendan Harrington? It was recently deleted. What can I add to make it credible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baker95030 (talkcontribs) 03:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

A biography must make a credible claim of importance, which was not present in that article. What is the credible claim of importance for this person, aside from their CV? §FreeRangeFrogcroak 04:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey administrator im sorry ok i know people be editing[edit]

Wikipedia I started a page on the web not for publicity and I'm aware of what can happen on this site I didn't know if someone was asking me to give them a hand I notice in deep text it says he or she edits Wikipedia and I felt if no one typed anything on the page it would've rolled over to my page where my names running down it instead of always saying wiki it'll always say Wikipedia the free encyclopedia every time I search my name up on web or images if you could tell your coworkers I apologize I deeply didn't know a administrator/s where looking at how I tryed to add on for web and image box for myself I also didn't know if Wikipedia was trying to say they needed me to make articles within the company I'm totally sorry administrator/s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles Eugene Hill (doctor (talkcontribs) 20:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Himmat Singh[edit]

  • Dear FreeRangeFrog, I think I mixed up a bit in describing what you deleted. Sorry but this user has created so much of confusions that it is slightly difficult. Please look into this. Thanks, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 07:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@AKS.9955: Deleted and blocked as obviously WP:NOTHERE to contribute, just spam about themselves. They had enough warnings. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 07:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit war[edit]

Greetings. In the article about Chicken, Alaska, an IP user has started an edit war with Gilliam, and others. The IP user has clearly violated 3RR (by repeatedly deleting sourced material) but I didn't see any notice regarding 3RR on the IP user's talk page, so I just placed one there myself a while ago using the uw-3rr template. I am hopeful that the 3rr notice will suffice to stop the IP user from edit-warring, but the situation needs to be monitored. I would do it myself and simply report the user to the appropriate noticeboard if the disruptive editing continues, but I am actually on a semi-wikibreak for work-related reasons and will likely not be back on Wikipedia for a few days, or very often through the end of August. (When I post to others' talk pages, I generally watch there for a reply, but given my offline status, a talkback notice would be a good idea if you reply here, otherwise it might be missed) Etamni | ✉   08:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

@Etamni: I protected the article. I don't see the point on talking to someone who switches IP addresses every day or so. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:27, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

=Youth Forensic[edit]

Why you deleted the Youth Forensic Page?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

User:Singh Himmat[edit]

Can you also block the user from editing his talk page? He inserted a spam link after the block.--Cahk (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

@Cahk: Done, thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 20:25, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

RE: Speedy deletion declined: 2013 Copa Presidente de la República[edit]

Yes, because the real tournament is a volleyball tournament (even it is not held since 2010). --Brayan Jaimes (talk) 22:23, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok friend[edit]

Well im new to wikistuff and was doing a Bio on me for my family, ive seen lots of people bios on wiki that are not important at all so i guessed i could do one before i die so my family could have a place to see my roots and life work! I have a terminal cancer and was just trying to do a bio so im sorry if i wasn't suposed to. Have a great day! I had more to edit but well if you could let me know where could i create a biografy i would really thank you for your help! And again im sorry if i did something wrong im new on this wiki ceeating stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yerspla (talkcontribs) 03:12, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but that's not what Wikipedia is for. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 05:54, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


Hi! I edited the page of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and you took it out because you said it was unsourced but I did cite it to a website that backed my edit. I'm kind of confused why but can you please tell me what I did wrong? Thank you. P.S I'm new at this so that's why I'm a little confused. Tsavt Tanem (talk) 05:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Tsavt Tanem: Please read WP:RS. You need to understand that a claim like the one you added requires a source that is much more reliable and verifiable than a random PDF that does not even include authorship. If you feel your source is correct, please start a conversation in the talk page so other editors can assess the source. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 05:54, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you I get it now but I have one more question: would another wiki page such as a wiki quotes page or just another normal wiki page count as a reliable source or not. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsavt Tanem (talkcontribs) 05:58, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

No. Please read the policy page I linked to above. It will be very helpful if you intend to edit in topics related to Armenia. Also, please sign your comments. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 06:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


Ban this guy right now!!!! Very Inappropriate comment on my page!!! Turkishman5000 is his name! Tsavt Tanem (talk) 06:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Tsavt Tanem: I've indefinitely blocked Turkishman5000. It was only one personal attack, but it was egregious, and it's the only thing he's done since starting his account. At the same time, I must tell you that your edits have been uniformly unonstructive and agenda-pushing. If your only interest here is pushing a pro-Armenian agenda, I suggest you find something else to do. Otherwise, if you persist, you too may find yourself blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 07:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Tsavt Tanem: The best thing you can do with these trolls is to just report and ignore them. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Editing Trustpilot's page[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog!

I have suggested some edits for the Trustpilot wikipedia page and have not received any feedback. You responded to a few of my earlier posts, so I hope it's alright that I'm writing you here. I would like to proceed with more suggested edits, but it would be great to get some feedback first.

Thanks in advance for your help :) Cheers, TrustieCPH (talk) 08:44, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Could I ask you about the deletion of my article The Diamond Store?[edit]

Hi FreeRangeFrog, sorry to bother you, but could I ask you about the deletion of my article The Diamond Store? I understand the article was considered spammy. However, as a freelance Copywriter, who was asked to write this article by a client, I investigated the business thoroughly beforehand and I genuinely believe it is a notable UK online business – because of it's impact to the UK jewellery industry and the nationally recognised awards it has won. I believe the news references I found were unbiased pieces from national United Kingdom industry magazines, as well as the British Jewellers' Association website. I was also upfront about my conflict of interest as someone hired by the company to write this article. Is there any way I could improve the article and have it considered for republication? I'd really appreciate your thoughts, it's my first time here. Thank you so much, JoTDS JoTDS (talk) 09:50, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

deleted page[edit]

Dear FreeRangeFrog!

I would like to ask you about this deleted article Is it possible to get the content of the deleted page and edit it?

Best regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svetlana Yakovleva (talkcontribs) 18:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

St George Catholic Church[edit]

Hola, como estamos? I wanted to let you know I PRODed this article now and since you edited the article, you may want to comment or endorse this PROD. BTW, I've seen you around (I'm probably more familiar with you than you are of me) but I wanted to say hello from one Spanish speaker to another. Face-smile.svg SwisterTwister talk 22:18, 6 September 2015 (UTC) Delete, a handful of minor roles, but doesn't come close to WP:NACTOR in my view. I'm sympathetic to the argument that it's usually harder to find written information on Indian topics than Western ones, but wh[edit]

Delete, a handful of minor roles, but doesn't come close to WP:NACTOR in my view. I'm sympathetic to the argument that it's usually harder to find written information on Indian topics than Western ones, but when it's a BLP we're talking about, caution is called for. Subject must have played minor and supporting roles in various films and TV shows, but fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Mentioned only in passing in cited media articles (which themselves are mostly second-tier sources), and I couldn't locate anything more comprehensive.David 16:47, 7 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManishSrivastava1 (talkcontribs)

Invitation to subscribe to the edit filter mailing list[edit]

Hi, as a user in the edit filter manager user group we wanted to let you know about the new wikipedia-en-editfilters mailing list. As part of our recent efforts to improve the use of edit filters on the English Wikipedia it has been established as a venue for internal discussion by edit filter managers regarding private filters (those only viewable by administrators and edit filter managers) and also as a means by which non-admins can ask questions about hidden filters that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss on-wiki. As an edit filter manager we encourage you to subscribe; the more users we have in the mailing list the more useful it will be to the community. If you subscribe we will send a short email to you through Wikipedia to confirm your subscription, but let us know if you'd prefer another method of verification. I'd also like to take the opportunity to invite you to contribute to the proposed guideline for edit filter use at WP:Edit filter/Draft and the associated talk page. Thank you! Sam Walton (talk) and MusikAnimal talk 18:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


Hi FreeRangeFrog, I see that you've been away for a few weeks but wanted to leave you a message. I have replied to OTRS ticket # 2014062610000601 in your absence as it seemed like informal correspondence but they had emailed a few times on other non-merged tickets. Let me know when you return and I will pass along the ticket back to you. Regards, Mkdwtalk 18:29, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Page[edit]

Hi there,

I created an entry for PicCollage, which was deleted for being too promotional (02:57, 27 July 2015 FreeRangeFrog (talk | contribs) deleted page PicCollage (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)).

This is my first entry and I tried to follow the outline of other photo app pages. Any feedback on what needs to be edited would be much appreciated!

Thanks, Laura — Preceding unsigned comment added by LauraMaurer (talkcontribs) 21:40, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

LauraMaurer I would suggest amounting as much good sourcing as you can such as news and magazine instead of press releases and other self-generated content. Consider using WP:AFC where third-party reviewers such as myself can review it and comment before actually accepting. Helpful links are listed at your welcome message but some of the outstanding ones are Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:REFB. If you need further help, please ask. SwisterTwister talk 06:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Waiting for a reply[edit]

FreeRangeFrog: This Model Mugging again regarding evidence of self-promotion and COI regarding attack on us by competitor. I reviewed your page and see other issues people are having with site vandalism, securing sites, site removal, reliable sources, harassment, good faith, reliability of sources, and edit wars.

I have identified tag teaming efforts of Nefariousski in latest Impact Self-Defense attack against us. She is loaded with hypocritical contradictions such as COI, biographies of living persons, lack of editing balance, failure of editing in a NPOV, disregard to consensus for disputes, using an unreliable source to make libel-slanderous statements. She is involved in a campaign to promote a competitor, Impact Self-Defense.

Impact group has repeated a misquoted a training incident that occurred 30 years ago from a tabloid magazine written by Peri. American Press Association Principles of Journalism identifies journalism‘s first obligation is to the truth, and also discipline of verification…as listed on the APA website. Nefariousski’s sole source is an article that violates the APA’s principles. This source also falls into Wikipedia tabloid journalism definition and sensationalism. Nefariousski and other writers insist on using the term ‘sexual assault’, which is not used in the article. Even after you corrected Nefariousski about her inappropriateness of using the term “sexual assault”, she insisted on using it. Additional editors have also changed the current line to be even more inaccurate. However, ‘rumor’ is used numerous times. Peri writes, “The staff of Women Defending Ourselves had finally begun to feel empowered, but it was a passive sort of empowerment, based on whispers and rumor campaigns instead of direct confrontation.” A 25 + year old rumor campaign is exactly what Nefariousski as Impact are doing! How is this single source thereby reliable - Mother Jones was not a major publication in 1990, especially when publishing admitted rumors and is loaded with misinformation?

Nefariousski planned to link the Wikipedia ESD page to a derogatory Model Mugging Wikipedia page highlighting a tabloid source written with accusation heading, “controversy”. Impact also wrote a promotional page and pasted it into her Sandbox. They are also getting around Wikipedia rules against self-promotion using Wikipedia search engine ranking by keeping their page in the sandbox status - FIRST PAGE on search results for "Empowerment Self-Defense".

PLEASE CLICK the pdf link as evidence to view images in summary report of her COI campaign promoting Impact Self-Defense:

Is this nefarious behavior? Should she be blocked and all her edits scrutinized? Does Wikipedia see a problem with hypocritical editor(s)? I had written a response in Model Mugging Talk prior to discovering the ESD page.

We need the Model Mugging site corrected. We need protection from other Impact organizational associates tag teaming inaccurate edits, or better yet remove Model Mugging from Wikipedia all together.

Thank you for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiipedia-posting (talkcontribs) 17:03, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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Dear; I have an issue with writing an article about a non-profit organization that I had founded it. Article was about Vetbook which is a non profit organization of my own.( I tried to write an article about it; however that I found your had deleted it. The organization is legally operates in Egypt and I have all documents that prove and state that I am the CEO of such organization and the owner of web domain ( Please help; since I had went through too much text on Wikipedia to resolve it however I failed to do. My Username on Wikipedia is: "Eslamvet" and article name is "Vetbook". Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eslamvet (talkcontribs) 12:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Eu-Japan logo.jpg[edit]

A tag has been placed on File:Eu-Japan logo.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

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Your draft article, Draft:David Wilson[edit]

Hello, FreeRangeFrog. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "David Wilson".

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GA reviewer supports the Requested Edits[8] located here, but asked me to make them myself. I was hoping you might do the honors. Pinging you because you were involved in this page a while back. David King, Ethical Wiki (Talk) 20:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

David King, Ethical Wiki, unfortunately, FRF hasn't been active since the summer so you might need to find another editor to do the deed. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Can't say I blame him. Maybe @Pauloperry: or @Crisco 1492: will respond to a ping (both editors were involved in the article previously). David King, Ethical Wiki (Talk) 19:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

I have recreated and AfC on All Power Labs which you had previously tagged for speedy deletion. I had some conversation with DGG who was the admin who deleted the page, and have rewritten it based on his and other editors comments with some new citations and a more rigorous effort to meet neutral and non-promotional guidelines. Nesdon (talk) 22:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Where are you, frog?[edit]

Where are you, frog? You are missed! Please come back and run for arbcom! Bishonen | talk 17:54, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

Whether you run for Arbcom or not, I miss you, too. I hope the reason you haven't been around in a while is a positive one.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Oh dear. I'm sorry to say I hadn't noticed you'd stopped editing. Reading various random threads today, and following links in their links in their links, led to seeing this comment of yours again (which I believe I thanked you for at the time), which should probably be tattooed with fluorescent ink on the inside of the eyelids of all the admins and arbs around here so they see it in their sleep. If you're gone for good, vaya con Dios. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Angela Hutchinson[edit]

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