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  • his command. He used the lowest E (contra E) on the piano at the climax of the fugue (mm. 192-200) and near the end. More than 330 measures in length, the fourth movement is the longest and the

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Keyboard Sonata No. 49 (Haydn)[edit]

Shouldn't this be titled Keyboard Sonata No. 59 (Haydn)? Nthep (talk) 16:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Beethoven sonata op 109[edit]

Hi Fresternoch. Thanks for your work on Piano Sonata No. 30 (Beethoven). You'll see that I've just made some edits which reverse several of yours, which I did with great regret and after much thought, so please let me explain.

First, a couple of errors:

  • Movt 2 isn't the first prestissimo movement in a Beethoven sonata -- look at the last movement of his first sonata.
  • Variation 3 isn't forte throughout -- see bars 8, 12 and 24.
  • Variation 4 probably isn't the longest in duration. With repeats there are 32 bars played slightly slower than the theme's tempo, whereas variation 6 has 51 bars played at the theme's tempo. Variation 6 would normally take longer, though it may depend on the performer to some extent.
  • Duration of 15-20 minutes for movement 3 is wildly out, so I suspect you've done some original research there. There's a wide range -- I've seen 8:30 and over 15 minutes, but never higher. Normal in top professional performances appears to be around 11:30 - 12 minutes.

In an encyclopedic article like this, we concentrate on facts. Subjective statements like saying that the first movement is "very clean and compressed", or "The character is gentle again, after the energetic outburst of Variation 3" aren't very helpful, and even if we want them, they should only be included when they are attributed to a highly respected source and properly cited. If Daniel Barenboim said it, we can say that he said it, but otherwise ...

Just one detail: in something like "mm. 188-203" the mm stands for measures (plural). For a single measure, we just write "m. 188". But measures is American English, and this article is written in British English, and we don't change from an article's established English version. I've restored "bars" and also reverted to using in-variation bar numbers rather than whole-movement bar numbers, because this is easier for readers using editions that don't print whole-movement bar numbers (like the Schenker edition).

Once again, sorry to undo so much of your contribution, and I hope you won't mind. If you want to take up any issues about it with me, I'll keep your talk page watch listed for a few days, or we can discuss it on the article talk page if you prefer.

Kind regards, --Stfg (talk) 15:59, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have time for a full explanation now, pretty busy atm, can you please keep my talk page in the watchlist longer? I will try to get back here as early as I can.

Thanks for understanding, --Fresternoch (talk)

No problem. Will do. --Stfg (talk) 08:25, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

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