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Barnstar for you![edit]

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I've looked at your tireless contribution to templates. So i believe this barnstar should suit you. Ibrahim ebi (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help to improve the Adopt-a-typo template. Much appreciated! Jason Quinn (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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For getting better performance and adding options to the chess diagram template. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Let me just second this (since you've got three on this page already). Thank you for all those well-framed edit requests you made to the convert sub-templates. ~Adjwilley (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Erdbeerteller01.jpg Thank you for editing Sandhani page. Dr. Kabir Hossain (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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Module:testcase table is great! Thanks for making it! —hike395 (talk) 03:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hey Frietjes! Thanks for your wonderful and helpful contributions in SpongeBob related areas. I really appreciate it. Keep it up! Thanks and happy editing! :) Mediran (tc) 03:12, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for being observant to other's (i.e. me) ham-fisted hacking and repairing damaged templates without fuss. You rock! FruitMonkey (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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For your work correcting the "year" field in 1000s of uses of {{Infobox Australian place}}. Much appreciated. Mattinbgn (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for you work on tables and templates! -- Wywin (talk | contribs) 18:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for all your work replacing instances of {{convert/spell}} with the new Lua compliant {{convert|...|spell=in}} AdmrBoltz 20:54, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Frietjes, I would like to thank you for taking care and fixing the oil field infobox even without asking. It was really kind of you. Beagel (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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Thanks for all the updating of the population data you are doing on Queensland places! Great work!

Kerry (talk) 00:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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You have been awarded the prestigious Golden Doubloon for your services to the WP:ANATOMY WikiProject. Thanks!
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Thank you for adding team colors for college basketball players. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
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tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for your fix at Template:Infobox winery. You've just fixed something that had been a small annoyance to me and probably others for a long time. SchreiberBike talk 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
A Cookie for your work behind-the-scene's on various currency articles
On a number of occasions now I've noticed you've made a whole series of benificial but tedious improvements to various currency articles. These are mostly the type of improvements that are behind the scene's (formatting, wikifying, etc.) and thus might go unrecognized, so I wanted to take a moment to thank you and let you know it's appreciated. Gecko G (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks so much for the work on the Nanjing districts template! Your input on the template itself and placement within articles is extremely helpful! I had posted two questions about how to format it and you resolved both issues! It's very much appreciated and looks really nice now. CaroleHenson (talk) 15:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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Nice work on {{Taxation}}! You do a lot of work in neglected areas, and it's always a big improvement. bobrayner (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
A small cup of coffee.JPG Thank you for patrolling unused templates and nominating them for deletion. The cleanup is very useful. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for the article changes :) Viktor O. Ledenyov (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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Frietjes, thank you for your excellent work streamlining the color coding used in navboxes for college football and other college sports subjects. Jweiss11 (talk) 06:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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For your unceasing work on the many WP Templates, I hereby award you this Barnstar YSSYguy (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
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A big thanks for your help with putting in grid-numbers in info-boxes: it works like dream! With best wishes, Huldra (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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For your endeavor in template cleanup, where I sometimes feel overwhelmed, and wish I were more like you. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 19:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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"My own work" (the pic not the star!) --Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Sun 07:11, wikitime= 23:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Gaufre biscuit.jpg Thanks for correcting my sourcing mistake on Defense of the Reich. Much appreciated. GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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for the amazing work you do everyday and the help you provide to the CHECKWIKI project. Magioladitis (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
A kitten for you!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for fixing this! Face-grin.svg

  dainomite   15:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

And thats a high five to you😃
Thanks for all you good contribution. It was greatly appreciated👋 Brilloman12 (talk) 05:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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For you hard work at cleaning up templates. Just checked my watch list and it BLEW UP with all the changes you made. Keep up the awesome work! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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hi, thank u for editing in my page user :)

SURDUSVII 17:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


For helping me today!

Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for monitoring the talk page for Module:College color/data and adding the support for references proactively. —Bagumba (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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For improving ISBN checks! Magioladitis (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks a lot for merging {{Infobox Jain temple}} with {{Infobox religious building}}. You deserve this. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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In 2015 you were one of the top 300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate further.
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You have been awarded a barnstar by WikiProject Middle-earth for your tireless effort of cleaning up template shortcuts. De728631 (talk) 19:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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My wikilove again and again!!

Magioladitis (talk) 19:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Three years ago ...
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tireless template help
... you were recipient
no. 441 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Export hell seidel steiner.png Thanks for your contribution to the draft of the National Science Museum at Maynooth AugusteBlanqui (talk) 19:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for all of your help at Module:College color... you ROCK! It would be no where where it is today without you!!! 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 23:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Trying to make up for being nasty. Was having a bad day and you, unfairly, paid the price.

Maragm (talk) 13:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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This Barnstar of Diligence is awarded to Frietjes for persistence and diligence in emptying Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls, which contained tens of thousands of pages with errors, over the last two years. Thanks, from one gnome to another. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you, template guru! bd2412 T 21:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
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-For solving the uniform riddle we've had for 6 years, putting your mad tech skills available to the Wiki community, fast and cheerfully! --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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For your continued assistance with modules and templates. Thank you for being such a joy to work with and for being so responsive to requests for assistance. Keep up the awesome work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
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For your continued work on templates, particularly your dedication to templates that are insanely complicated, such as Template:Infobox country. Everyone wanted that template converted to use {{Infobox}}, but no one (including myself) wanted to put in the time and effort to make it happen. Way to step up and get it done! Keep up the amazing work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you User:Frietjes for those amazing improvements you made to Holocaust infoboxes: concentration camp and Holocaust event. This is what I call, putting advanced knowledge of formatting into the best possible use for the benefit of our project.[28] [29] All best, and thank you again, Poeticbent talk 16:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
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For eliminating mainspace articles in Category:Pages using infobox map with x or y by creating location maps, I award you this barnstar! Thanks so much! —hike395 (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
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Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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for your outstanding work in developing a technical template to convert coordinates from German to English Wiki format; something which has caused problems for years and will now save thousands of nugatory editor hours. Well done and thank you! Bermicourt (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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For your wonderful work! Huldra (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
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For your incredible work on Module:Sidebar games events. Not just the fact that you got that done, but you are such a pleasure to work with. You have a wonderful attitude, are eager to work with others and help a n00b like myself. You are truly a stellar wikipedian. THANK YOU! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:29, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
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thanks for being so helpful —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 21:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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Thank you for your valuable contributions! You are a valuable contributor on Wikipedia! Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Frietjes I Respect Your opinion, I try To merge these pages to the main Volleyball box page but It seems technically hard for me, I tell the creator of volleyball box page to add these categories, He didin't Reply at all So I have created these pages I think its a useful solution. so please I hope to keep these pages, cause when you delete it all. It will deform the panorama in other linked pages. thanks Elly mino (talk) 22:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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Well Thank You for your Last contributions, Great Work Elly mino (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for your help in creating Module:Location map/data/Japan complete. It will prove useful in a number of articles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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Great work on several templates, especially sports-related ones like Template:Sports_rivalry_series_table. It's made them more compact and easier to use. Keep up the good work! WuTang94 (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary[edit]

From my talk page back in september.

Bugger bugger bugger, I saw a map in the transport museum in budapest we went the other week and it had the lat and long but in pretty much a mercator projection. My missus was more interested with the toy trains so I didn't get a chance to take the measures off it. If it's wrong (as it is) it should be deleted but I am still trying to get the measures right. The thing is it's specifically Kingdom of Hungary, but the more atlases (atli? :) I look at the more different lats and longs I get. And anything one does on Hungarian articles is rather contentious, so it is probably really better deleted. Because people whose great grandfathers were part of the Kingdom of Hungary will say no that's Croatia or Slovakia or Slovenia or Yugoslavia or Jugoslavia or The People's Republic of East Kebab. Since Hungarian politics is very contentious and goes on racist grounds in far more than would be allowed in where I come from, this is better off deleted. (Hint: say Treaty of Trianon to a Hungarian and await results.) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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I never did get round to this. I took the coords off of file at right, which is very high quality but seems to have an odd idea of where 0 longitude is (it suggests it is east of Paris, but that didn't seem to work). As you suggested, I tried to take well-known points at the edges of the map: Fiume, for example, at south-west. I took very good readings after printing out this map at A0 size and using ruler and compass, my trig is quite good, but I could never get it to fit. Si Trew (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
.Oh, Template:Location_map_Kingdom_of_Hungary/test might help you. You see, Fiume's in the right place but Budapest is a bit too far left and the rest are well out. Si Trew (talk) 06:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
That map uses the Paris meridian. It's not a Mercator projection, the lines of latitude aren't quite parallel. Maproom (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, thanks for the tip. I have written code for generating coefficients for nonlinear projections if I know the functional form. but, the code requires at least as many reference points as there are coefficients. basically a nonlinear least-squares algorithm. the problem here is that other than the reference markings on the side of the map, it's tough to get reference points in the middle. Frietjes (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Si Trew, should we just give up on Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary and have it deleted? Frietjes (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
How many do you need in the middle? You get get a reference point near each corner by specifying where the nearest line of (Paris) longitude would cross the nearest line of latitude, and use towns like Szolnok (which Google Earth says is 47°10'N 20°11'E Greenwich) in the middle. Maproom (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, now that I look at it again, I think we have enough with the two interior intersection points and the points along the edges. the original question was about the image in Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary which is less clear. for File:Hungary-ethnic_groups.jpg, I think we can make a working location map. thank you again. Frietjes (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Just a thought, maybe not very coherent at this time of night. Using an ethnographic map as a location map may, as Si Trew pointed out, be contentious. Will it help if instead I upload to Commons this map? It uses a Ferro meridian, which is no worse than Paris, and shows enough towns such as Szolnok for central reference points. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, that may help. let's see what Si Trew says. my main focus is turning map images into working location maps. I don't really have a strong feeling about the particular map image, so long as it is created with a well-defined projection. Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Just asking out of curiosity – how do you "turn a map image into a location map"? Do you warp it into the Mercator projection that the template requires? Or do you supply the template with a transform function? Maproom (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, supply the transformation function. see, for example, module:Location map/data/Canada. if I know the functional form and a sufficient number of reference points, I can numerically solve for the coefficients. Frietjes (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. It's reassuring to see that things are done in such a sensible and comprehensible way. Incidentally – if you ever find a map image at that you could use in Wikipedia, please let me know and I'll put it on Commons. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
───────────────────────── Thanks for pinging me in on this. I know it was a long time ago. User:Maproom, yes I did guess it was the Paris Meridian all that time ago, but that didn't seem quite to fit either. Since then I took something and with Inkscape made a four-colour map (five if you include Lake Balaton as a fifth colour, blue, but could have been made a fourth colour as those that surround it are all in three other colours, it is just more pleasant to have it in blue but not mathematically necessary) and split out all the layers and borders and so on into separate layers on the SVG. I seem to recall I called it Template:Location Map Hungary2 or something – and I emphasise this is not the Kingdom of Hungary but the modern-day Hungary. All I had left to do was get the text labelling right. Searching for "a new look for an old map" was something roughly want some commenter said, may well have been User:Frietjes here but may not have been (a long time ago, just going from memory: and those exact words are what was printed on the front of the first H C Beck fold-up London Underground Diagram (often called "Map"; Beck himself never called it a map: I have good references for this from publications of the London Transport Museum in woodware) of 1933, so I am probably confusing those words with the same sentiment expressed. This is all such a long time ago, I give as hints for those who can search better than I.
On the plus side, by pure coincidence (these are not common around here in Budapest) my local pub has a nice 1898ish German (I think) map of Austria-Hungary; certainly pre-Treaty of Trianon. This is a five or six colour map and I am pretty sure it is in German but I am going from memory, I don't think it's in Hungarian. It would be about 40 by 25 inches (1,020 mm × 640 mm) and I daresay somehow I could get it scanned in, in one of the largescale printers in the town (who I happen to be also on good terms with, for various other reasons) or just take four A3 scans and stitch them with photoshop, assuming that my scanner doesn't distort too much. I am on good terms with the landlord as I have given him my British registration plates and various other British pub memorablia, it is that kind of pub, very much a "local", so I can ask to borrow the map (it's framed) or just go in on a quiet afternoon with a straightedge etc and try to get some measures off that. I think it is not the same as the image is here, though quite similar. As a start shall I get the maker etc, would that help at all, before I do the trig etc off it? I have a very good straightedge and fifty quids worth of setsquare adjustable protractor that I use for technical drawing on my A0 drawing board, it's about 25 inches (640 mm) long on its hypotenuese, which should be enough to measure angles and distances with some kinda veracity, I am not sure of the projection without looking again. Is it worth me taking a look and reporting back, probably will be about UTC+2 Friday tomorrow, else Monday? If you give me some nice trig points "in the middle" I will do my best to give you the readings off of them. These won't be 100% accuracy but will be within a second of arc or two through the distortion of the glass in the frame, I would imagine. Si Trew (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I understand if it is WP:COPYVIO etc but if I check the maker first, it may very well turn out not to be because of the date and also various other "things that have happened since", could well be PD or fair use. I think I check the maker first, that is clear enough in top right corner but don't remember offhand. Would that be of any use, at least to confirm or deny if it's the same as this one? It reminded me of this one, when I first saw it, but I think it is different but of about the same time. Si Trew (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
File:Hungary_location_map.svg is the one I made the four-colour svg version of. It just needs tidying on the text labels layer if I remember right, I can't remember its name. The computer it was on is long gone. File:Hungary location map2.svg? Something like that. We have File:Hungary location map-2.jpg on Commons, but that's not it, cos it's not four-colour and has labels in Cyrillic, is a jpg not an svg. Perhaps unfortunately it got deleted as unused. I'd need to ask an admin to dredge from about 2009 onwards. Users working on it would have been mostly me and perhaps occasionally the missus, no longer editing at Wikipedia for many a year due to very harsh and undeserved comments after excellent translations of English articles about the Tudors into HU:WP (something she is an expert in, more than I know and I'm bloody English): Her username was/is User:Monkap. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, the map you included wrongfooted me, this is exactly the map that is nominated (duh!) I was looking at the map you included on the right. No, don't give up on it, I'll try to fix it. It is nearly OK, all the coords and borders and counties etc are done on separate labels and I think it is much better than the boring brown map transcluded via {{Infobox Hungarian settlement}}. We just need to fix the edges and fix the text-label layer for some reason the font doesn't scale properly, I never did work out why, I shall try again. One reason to separate into different layers in a good GIS fashion is so that with a flick of the wrist one can turn off all the labels, turn off e.g. the county borders, make all the counties brown and just fill one particular county in a different colour (for Hungarian county articles) etc etc etc. I hand-edited the XML for the SVG to make it all nice, it's much much nicer than its predecessor for putting into a GIS etc because each county edge and county border and county name etc is labeleed in a very consistent fashion. The underlying SVG is File:Kingdom_of_Hungary_counties-2.svg. The polygons for the borders go actually in a kinda "cogwheel" order so that some going anticlockwise have their boundaries against the others going clockwise, rather in a toothed gearwheel manner, but that was just my pedantry; each county actually has its own borders as it did on the original, but on the original the borders for e.g Budapest to Pest County were a bit different from the borders of Pest County to Budapest, i.e. there was a gap or overlap, which now there is not in "my" version, they have all the coordinates bang on, as I did them all in hand in the XML not with some "snap it roughly to where it looks right" tool. All the bordering points have the same coords but the opposite directions (clockwise or widdershins) which helps the SVG polygon fill get it right without overlap or gap.
I think we should keep it and try to fix the labels and the "fix" coordinates for it. I suppose this was a labour of love but I think it does make it better than what is used in the infobox, it scales except for the text labels and the old one has errors in the border coords that leave gaps or overlaps, it just doesn't seem so at the scale used in infoboxes, as the rendering of the borders and the pushpins for the places are far larger than the errors, at even a large-screen resolution scale. If you blow it up and print it onto A0 (paper size) is is noticeable. Si Trew (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The text labels are fine on my I think 1972 across screen in full view. When I made this I think I had a 1024x768 screen. It's when the labels are all squished they don't scale down properly, and get all scrunched up, I have never quite worked out why. There is a style that governs it, and I tried all sorts of things but none worked. Si Trew (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


Dear user, I saw that you contributed in Template:Photomontage and Module:Photo montage, so I got a question: is it possible to make this Template automatically adjust the heigh of images by cropping the highest to the level of lowest one? I primaly use this template to make rich city-related collages. This template tries to render all images with equal width of all images in row. Sometimes aspect ratio of different images is not the same and as a Result I got an empty space around the lower image which makes the whole collage not so attractive as it could be.--Orange-kun (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

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That's what I mean. --Orange-kun (talk) 19:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Orange-kun, I don't know about cropping, but you could have it make all of them the same height. see Template:Multiple image#To match image heights. Frietjes (talk) 19:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Module:Photo montage[edit]

Hi. Sorry, a little while ago, I whote in Village pump. About Module:Photo montage, in using mobile view, all of the montage photos are left-align. For example, Desktop view, Mobile view. Could you change it to align-center?-- (talk) 14:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

probably fixed. Frietjes (talk) 19:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much!-- (talk) 04:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Upcoming changes to wikitext parsing[edit]


There will be some changes to the way wikitext is parsed during the next few weeks. It will affect all namespaces. You can see a list of pages that may display incorrectly at Special:LintErrors. Since most of the easy problems have already been solved at the English Wikipedia, I am specifically contacting tech-savvy editors such as yourself with this one-time message, in the hope that you will be able to investigate the remaining high-priority pages during the next month.

There are approximately 10,000 articles (and many more non-article pages) with high-priority errors. The most important ones are the articles with misnested tags and table problems. Some of these involve templates, such as infoboxes, or the way the template is used in the article. In some cases, the "error" is a minor, unimportant difference in the visual appearance. In other cases, the results are undesirable. You can see a before-and-after comparison of any article by adding ?action=parsermigration-edit to the end of a link, like this: (which shows a difference in how {{infobox ship}} is parsed).

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Thank you for all the good things you do for the English Wikipedia. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Help please[edit]

Sorry to bother you. I have a requested move at Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions#Requested_move_20_April_2018. Could you please comment on my move request? Thanks. Brian Everlasting (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Map change[edit]

This change results in a slightly different map which pushed locations beyond the map boundary causing a map location error that wasn't there before the change. MB 14:22, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

WP:TFD notification[edit]

I am notifying you that you are one of the editors that has made more than 2 edits to at least one of the templates listed at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_23#Template:SI_Swimsuit_Cover_Models or Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_23#Template:1964–1969_Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit. Please help us come to a consensus on this nomination.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Czech Republic maps[edit]

Hello, I saw your name several times on my watchlist based on your recent edits to Prague sculpture articles. I then noticed you did some work re: Czech Republic maps, which is much appreciated! By the way, Category:Wikipedia requested maps in the Czech Republic shows articles still needing maps, if you're curious to browse and update accordingly. If not, no worries. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, to clarify, I'm not trying to dump work on your plate. I'm going through the list as well, and so far I've reduced the category by 30 entries, but I'm also seeing many articles without coordinates, so those cannot be updated yet. Just wanted to share an update. Happy editing, and thanks again for your work! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Oooooh, I didn't know there was a pushpin map specifically for Charles Bridge area. I'll have to go back to some of the articles I just updated. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:24, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
yes, nice to show the location along the bridge. I am having luck finding the coordinates using google street view and using a map that I found with the locations along the bridge. Frietjes (talk) 22:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Most definitely! I love seeing where they are installed on the bridge. Feel free to review my recent contributions if you think you can further improve my map additions. Again, huge thank you for this work! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata and infoboxes[edit]

Hi, Frietjes! Is there a way where when we have an infobox embedded into another, that the photograph that is linked in its wikidata won't display twice? See Tom Osborne as an example... I added the option to embed {{Infobox college coach}} in the beginning of the month, but I don't know enough about wikidata to fix the problem (I may not have added the embed option correctly either?). Thanks, Corky 22:17, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

CAHOF project[edit]

Hello, there is a project at Template talk:Infobox CFL biography#CAHOF infobox link URLs broken which might interest you. I'm willing to seed new paramter strings in 300 infoboxes, but someone needs to modify the template to render. Am not watching here, please reply there if interested. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 07:05, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Kontinental Hockey League[edit]

Hello Frietjes. It looks like you made some major changes to the KHL page? Unfortunately, something must have gone wrong, the page is a bit a mess now with several sections repeated and out of order. Do you want to look into it yourself? Thanks and cheers Wild8oar (talk) 18:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Wild8oar, I am looking at Kontinental Hockey League and do not see any problems. which sections are repeated? Frietjes (talk) 18:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry about that, it is only the "diff view" that is weird: [30] The page looks fine. Sorry! Wild8oar (talk) 18:49, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Fb team script[edit]

Hi Frietjes! I just closed this discussion and I was going to start writing a bot to do the conversion. In the discussion you mentioned that you have a script to do this? It would be great if you could help me with the bot, or let me know if you have a better idea about how to orphan all of these. I am going to create a list of all the "Fb team" and "Fb competition" templates, sorted by transclusion number in my userspace. It may be possible to orphan some of the lesser used ones first. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:21, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

orphaning the lesser used ones first seems like a good idea. I don't know if it's better to first orphan the "fb team" and then work on the rest, or just go for it all at once. I will email you some javascript code. Frietjes (talk) 14:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! It seems to work pretty well. Do you think it's ready for bot use? Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Plastikspork, very close. one wrinkle is that we need to do this to the 90 fb team templates using it. without that, it's very hard to extract the nationality. otherwise, I can code it as a table in the module. Frietjes (talk) 22:55, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I got that. Could you take care of Template:Fb cl Allsvenskan play-offs team 3pts? I'm not sure how it differs from the others. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Plastikspork, the only difference is two extra classification notes. I have merged it, although they are all going away eventually. Frietjes (talk) 12:26, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

League tables[edit]

Thanks! Rhinen

"expand templates per TfD outcome" - which TfD discussion specifically? That may be helpful for those of us who don't follow TfD. ;-) -- KTC (talk) 17:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

there are about 12 different discussions, but I will try to link to a couple. Frietjes (talk)

Regarding Module:Sports table[edit]

It's been almost two months since I asked about modifying the WDL Sports table to add winning percentage in addition to Points (my request, at the very end of the section, stems from the fact that the NFL has draws, but only uses Pct.), so I figured that we should try and have that one build eventually and see how templates like this would work on the module (ignore the last three parts of this template, we'll figure those out later). –Piranha249 18:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

question about Template:Infobox park[edit]

The template is used in Bull's Island Recreation Area for example, which itself uses a ?template? #property:name to get the name from Wikidata for the name= parameter. But that won't work for map_label=. I added a map label manually, so there certainly is a work-around - but can this be "fixed"? MB 01:52, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

MB the reason why it wasn't working was because the output from that parserfunction was blank. internally, it was generating the name from the name of the page, not the name from wikidata. I fixed it to use the name of the page for both. Frietjes (talk) 12:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]



Opinion requested[edit]

Please see [31] and then User_talk:BD2412#infobox_Nationality.Thanks MB 13:49, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Yugoslavia squad – EuroBasket Women 1983[edit]

Just noticed this template you nominated for deletion, but looks like it wasn't listed in the actual discussion unless I am blind so it never got deleted and has been sitting there with the notice since the fall. Thought you might want to renom it or remove the tag. -DJSasso (talk) 14:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

DJSasso, thank you. I believe the discussion still applies, so I will see if Plastikspork can take care of it. Frietjes (talk) 14:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Done! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Capitals[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Capitals. —GoldRingChip 12:52, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Template tools[edit]

I still live in wonder about how you managed to work out our anatomy infobox series so efficiently years ago... Do you have any automated tools that you use to help with this process? Editing the code kills me and is so inefficient... --Tom (LT) (talk) 06:49, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Vehicle registration plates of Palau[edit]

Somehow, I've messed up the good textbox I had going. Help?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:33, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Never mind! A good night's sleep works wonders!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:TL wikidata[edit]

Hi Frietjes. I recently created Template:TL wikidata, which is modelled on the Template:MX wikidata that you created. I am having an issue with it. When I use it to transclude population census data, it throws up strange results for the "point in time (P585)" parameter. For example, on Ainaro District, it should display "(2015)" but displays "(2014)", and on Dili, it should similarly display "(2015)", but displays "(2015, 2009)". As I do not quite understand how the coding works, I am unable to fix the problem. Are you able to help? Thanks in advance, Bahnfrend (talk) 14:26, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Bahnfrend, try copying code from {{PH wikidata}} instead. I don't think the {{MX wikidata}} template is being used that much. we really need a common backend for all of these since most of the code will be the same, and only the region-specific stuff will need to be modified for each country. Frietjes (talk) 13:50, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your amendments. Although I have had some proficiency in coding since the early 1980s, there's no way I could have written code as complicated as that. I agree with you that we really need a common backend for all of these templates. If I encounter any further difficulties, I will alert you to them. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:40, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Please review Caillou Pettis[edit]

Can you please look over the draft available for the article on Caillou Pettis and see if it is good to submit for actual publication? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyBatman22 (talkcontribs) 14:20, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Wondering if you can help?[edit]

Frietjes, I do hope you are well. What it is: you were kind enough to solve a problem for me last year; now, I find myself with (what seems to be) a similar one.

See, in this section of a sandbox I've got two sorts of maps. On the right, the multi-use maps using the switch mechanism—which you helped with the last time—and on the left, one which uses long/lat coordinates to place objects.

Now. Is it possible to combine the two?—that is, have the two switchable maps (on the right) contain highlighted coordinate buttons of those on the left? (Not exactly the same coordinates, of course, just the principle.)

Hope you don't mind me asking Freitjes. Happy Sunday to you! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 11:06, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Serial Number 54129, like this? Frietjes (talk) 12:27, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Ha! Yes, I think very much like this :D just to tweak it, is it possible to use the images (in this case, the city of londona and SE Eng) as location maps, and be able to put the location buttons on to them? I.e., not use the darhall one? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:32, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, so you want to make a location map that uses File:The city of London in the late middle ages.png so that you can place red markers on it using coordinates? that's possible, but we need to know the latitude and longitude of the edges of the image. or, if you know the lat/lon of a few places on the map, I have some code that solves for the edge coordinates. Frietjes (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Ah, yes, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Let me find some coordinates—I hope I'm not taking up your time though? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:41, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, no problem. I have probably created about 100 location maps using the coordinates of landmarks as reference points. the closer the reference points are to the corners the better. Frietjes (talk) 12:44, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks very much! I have these

File:The city of London in the late middle ages.png:

  • Guildall @ 51.515900, -0.091988
  • Bishopsgate @ 51.515517, -0.082082
  • St Pauls @ 51.513845, -0.098351
  • St Martin le Grand @ 51.515855, -0.097057
  • The Tower @ 51.508112, -0.075949

File:SE England cropped.png:

  • Canterbury @ 51.280233, 1.078909
  • Winchester @ 51.059771, -1.310142
  • Abingdon @ 51.670780, -1.287953
  • London @ 51.507351, -0.127758
Do you think they'l be OK? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:00, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, I will check. for southeast England, can you use Module:Location map/data/UK England Southeast instead? seems to be a higher resolution image. you can find most all of the location maps listed on Template:Location map/List to avoid creating a redundant map. I don't think there is already a map for London in the middle ages, so I can work on that one first. Frietjes (talk) 13:06, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about the other maps, that will also come in handy for the future, as well as, as you say, saving duplication. *Starts whistling nonchalently* It works! Unbelievable :) —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:58, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Serial Number 54129, the image for File:The city of London in the late middle ages.png is pretty bad (low res png), but it was derived a high res svg, so I used that instead. see Module:Location map/data/City of London 1300 (I may need to adjust the edge coordinates if the markers are off on the map). if you want to use a cropped version that matches File:The city of London in the late middle ages.png ask someone at WP:Graphics Lab to make an svg version by cropping File:Map of London, 1300.svg. also, if you want to use a modern map, try Module:Location map/data/United Kingdom London City of London which covers the same area. I could do it, but I won't have time today. Frietjes (talk) 14:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

That 1300 one is fine Freitjes, can I use that? I only got rid of the list of the churches because they were unnecessary, but since they are still on the map itself, and it looks better with a title-box and a border, I say go with it. It looks great, thanks very much! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 14:22, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, yes, you can use Module:Location map/data/City of London 1300, but let me know if the markers are shifted so I can adjust the map edges. Frietjes (talk) 14:24, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Freitjes, sorry me again—do you know if there's a parameter for changing the text colour in a locator map? Say, red instead of the default blue? (It would stand out better against the map of London, which is pretty busy) Cheers! (Yes, I'm still working in it :) )—SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 16:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, two options (1) change the default in the module like this or (2) change it in the particular map transclusion as you have done in your sandbox example. Frietjes (talk) 16:15, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks very much! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 16:31, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Back again![edit]

Frietjes, I hope you're well. Me again. I'm sorry to have to ask; but the FAC crew aren't too keen on the City of London image—questions of originality and comlpexity, etc. I wondered, would it be possible to use this one, which is so basic it would obviate all those issues. Hopefully the resolution is OK?

Sorry to bother you with this—if you're too busy atm, no problem. Have a good weekend! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 10:21, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Serial Number 54129, I updated the map. hopefully the pogs are all in the right places. Frietjes (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Frietjes, that's really good, it looks greta, thanks very much! Hope it wasn't too much hard work! Take care, —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

New section[edit]

Frietjes, I realised that in 2016-17 Northern Premier League, you made a grammar mistake. I changed that cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SossieLondon (talkcontribs) 08:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

SossieLondon, the typo (feature fived) was SignOfTheDoubleCross in this edit. but, thank you for fixing it. Frietjes (talk) 12:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

CSS Comments in Template:NFLTertiaryColorRaw?[edit]

Hi Frietjes. I'm currently working on creating a module to replace the various NFL color templates, and I was wondering why you are inserting CSS comments (/**/) into all the colors in the Teriary Color template. I was just wondering if this was a workaround for some problem with template parsing or if it is something I'll need to carry over into the module. --Ahecht (TALK
) 21:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Ahecht, thank you for taking on the task of converting the NFL color templates to LUA. that has been on my mental todo list for over a year, but I never expended the effort to figure out how to handle the year spans in an elegant way. the /**/ are a hack that you should not need to carry over to LUA, it's the same reason why you see "background:" repeated in every entry in Template:NFLPrimaryColor. basically, parser functions don't handle colors that start with a # without something before the #. for example, see the output of background: {{#if:1|#FFCCFF}} (bad) vs. {{#if:1|background: #FFCCFF}} (good) or background: {{#switch:1|1=#FFCCFF}} (bad) vs. {{#switch:1|1=background: #FFCCFF}} (good). you should not have the same problem in LUA since you aren't using template parserfunctions. I am sure you have seen Module:College color, Module:Basketball color, Module:Baseball color, ... which should have the basic infrastructure, just without the year spans. Frietjes (talk) 21:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm basing the module on those, but hacking in the ability to support years. The best way I could figure out how to do it (while still making it easy enough to import data from the existing templates) is the method I'm using at Module:Gridiron color/data. I'll leave it up to the module to interpret both the old YYthruYY notation as well as the |year= notation and find the correct line in the data table. --Ahecht (TALK
) 21:39, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Ahecht, using subtables is what I had planned as well. is there a reason for having "New York Jets 1978thru1997" instead of just "1978thru1997". it would seem to me that the "New York Jets" part is implied by the fact that it's a subtable of the "New York Jets" entry? Frietjes (talk) 22:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
The code is written so it ignores evertying before the "1978thru1997" part, so either one would work. I kept them in as I was compiling the data since the existing templates didn't always have them in the correct order, but there's no reason that we can't strip them out now. It should be fairly trivial to do with a regex. --Ahecht (TALK
) 22:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:CFB schedule entry[edit]

Frietjes, we need a couple small changes to Template:CFB schedule entry. In the named parameters scenario, gamename is supposed to be showing up as a parenthetical in the "Opponent" column, not the "Site" column. Also, there's no need for the pound sign symbol (#) in the "Rank" column heading and the footer. Can you remove that? Thanks for all your work on these templates! Jweiss11 (talk) 01:19, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Jweiss11, see Category:Pages using CFB schedule with gamename after location. it would be good to have some consensus on this issue. Frietjes (talk) 11:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Template prob[edit]

Template:Infobox academic is producing an error in Kalu Ndukwe Kalu from |discipline= and I don't see why. It seems to be supported and I don't see anything else wrong in the article. Can you check on this? Thanks MB 20:58, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

MB the key was the ? ? ? after the discipline in the warning message. there were some invisible characters wedged in there. you can usually fix that by retyping the field name and copy-and-paste the value over. doing so created a diff, as you can see, and fixed the problem. Frietjes (talk) 21:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I did copy-and-paste the parameter itself in case it was something like that, but I didn't paste over the whitespace before the = because it didn't occur to me that there might be something there. There's always something new! MB 21:44, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Module for deletion/merge[edit]

Can you create {{Modules for discussion}} and {{Mfm}} like {{Templates for discussion}} and {{Tfm}}. It is inconvenient to nominate a module for deletion/merge currently, thanks! Hhkohh (talk) 08:54, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Hhkohh, I added a |type=module to {{Template for discussion}}. I did this instead of creating an entirely new template (similar to what we did for {{Tfd links}}). Please feel free to improve the instructions, or make changes as needed (@Pppery: who seems to be the most active in nominating modules) (talk page stalker). Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
That's not the right way to do things, as for modules the tfd tag has to go on the doc page and the only page that transcludes the doc page is the main module page, which should also show the big box. Answering the original complaint, I created User:Pppery/module for deletion, and User:Pppery/module for merging a while ago, but those, although they work, are hacks. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 22:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
The right way to do this would be to sync my changes to Template:Template for discussion/sandbox, which should make modules work properly and show the big box on both the doc page and the main module. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 22:22, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Plastikspork: When I try to tag {{subst:tfd}} on a module, I can't save. @Pppery: Do you want to move your templates to template space? Hhkohh (talk) 23:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
You have to add the tag to the doc page. That's an unavoidable consequence of how modules work. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 23:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Plastikspork: What about {{tfm}} for modules? Hhkohh (talk) 23:14, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Pppery: Are you willing to do this? Hhkohh (talk) 16:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Hhkohh there appear to be four permutations, so some differentiating syntax is needed to indicate that the merge target is a module. Frietjes (talk) 16:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes. Hhkohh (talk) 17:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

grid lacking[edit]

Editing Chezib of Judah, I tried putting

| grid_position = 15125 / 12170 PAL

into the Infobox ancient site template...alas, that didn't work. You wouldn't happen to know how to fix that, would you? Huldra (talk) 19:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Huldra: I just tried it and it worked for me here. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Plastikspork: Thanks! Great! Huldra (talk) 21:34, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Also, on Abu Ghosh the grid number is not visible...Huldra (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Huldra: I fixed that one here. You need to use the _ for the space in the parameter name. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Plastikspork: ah, silly me...well, we learn something every day! Thank you very much for your help! Huldra (talk) 21:36, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

infofox cyclist[edit]

Laura Kenny is in Category:Pages using infobox cyclist with atypical values for height or weight. This seems to be due to the <ref> in these parameters. Removing the refs clears the error. Can you confirm this? If so, can the template be changed so |height= & |weight= can be referenced without causing this maint error. MB 05:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

User:MB, should be fixed now. that module was written before {{infobox person/height}} and {{infobox person/weight}} were written, so it was catching the lack of a {{convert}} template. I updated the module to preprocess the results with {{infobox person/height}} and {{infobox person/weight}} before checking the output. Frietjes (talk) 12:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
That cleared the category of most articles (many of which were something other than having refs), and I've manually fixed a few remaining except for Peter Lombard II. This one won't accept any imperial value for |height=. The infobox looks fine, but the article is still in the maint category with the present value for height or any variation I try. MB 16:18, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
User:MB, 5'6.5" is not a valid value (see MOS:UNITNAMES for more information). Frietjes (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but changing it to 5'6", 72 in, or even 5 ft still doesn't work. MB 17:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
User:MB, 5'6" is not a valid unit, see MOS:UNITNAMES for more information. not sure why you would want to use 72 in, since no other articles use that, and 5 ft is not the same as 5 ft 6 in. do you want me to fix it for you? Frietjes (talk) 17:10, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I fixed it now with 5 ft 7in. I was trying different syntax to see what would work, and although 5 ft is the wrong value it still didn't work and I don't see why. The same for 72in - that doesn't work either for some reason.
The template documentation shows "Example 5'6" for height in the example section, and the parameter list says "The rider's height in the units most common within the continent he rides (see Units of measurement), namely metric in Europe, Imperial in the U.S.", but the link to "Units of measurement" doesn't go the MOS you linked (it goes nowhere). Can you fix these things to prevent future problems. MB 17:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:Infobox law enforcement agency[edit]

This template auto-wikilinks some parameters. But if brackets are manually added so the link can be be piped to suppress display of a disambiguator, then the brackets are displayed. Specific example is Border Guard (Poland) and |governingbody=. Is there a workaround or does is require a change to the template. Thanks. MB 21:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:2018 Arena Football League season#Standings[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:2018 Arena Football League season#Standings. 2601:589:8000:2ED0:C475:464:DECC:47EE (talk) 22:24, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Module:Basketball color[edit]

Module:Basketball color has been nominated for merging with other sports color modules. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 18:11, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Template infobox gorwiki[edit]

Hi, Frietjes

Please help to fix the template infobox used on this page.[32] I have asked for help to some senior people in idwiki but have not succeeded. Have tried to create some versions of templates infobox, but can not be used too. [33] [34] [35] Thanks. Marwan Mohamad (talk) 03:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Marwan Mohamad, you really need to copy all the infobox stuff from MediaWiki:Common.css to gor:MediaWiki:Common.css. but, until that happens, I put the css inline in the style in the template. but, it's easier to keep it all in the site side css and not put it in each template. Frietjes (talk) 11:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Frietjes, thank you for the help.

I have created the page gor:MediaWiki:Common.css as you informed and the template is workable. Regards. Marwan Mohamad (talk) 07:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

GA nomination[edit]


I recently nominated Steve Smith (cricketer) as good article candidate (someone is yet to start a review). It would be great if you can review and provide your comments on that. Thanks. Binod Basnet Talk 09:10, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Horizontal TOC without numbers[edit]

Hi, Frietjes! How can I edit, at, such a thing as horizontal TOC without numbers? Thanks. Aainitio (talk) 22:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Aainitio, you need to edit pt:MediaWiki:Common.css and the following section from en:MediaWiki:Common.css:

/* When <div class="nonumtoc"> is used on the table of contents,
   the ToC will display without numbers */
.nonumtoc .tocnumber {
	display: none;
.nonumtoc #toc ul,
.nonumtoc .toc ul {
	line-height: 1.5em;
	list-style: none none;
	margin: .3em 0 0;
	padding: 0;
.hlist.nonumtoc #toc ul ul,
.hlist.nonumtoc .toc ul ul {
	/* @noflip */
	margin: 0;

with that, the nonumtoc should work. to be absolutely sure, you may wish to update everything matching "hlist". if you can't edit that page, look at the page edit history and ask someone who can. Frietjes (talk) 13:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Frietjes, By the way, I need this to obtain the same result of "Significance of numbers in Judaism' horizontal TOC". Will I obtain it with your code above written? Thanks. Aainitio (talk) 14:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Aainitio, yes, it should work. it looks like pt:Predefinição:Horizontal TOC has the |nonum=y option which adds the "nonumtoc" class. so, once the class information is in pt:MediaWiki:Common.css, it should work. Frietjes (talk) 14:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks... But, I have tried to aply it ( pt:Predefinição:Horizontal TOC) into pt:User:Aainitio/Teste002, without desired result... Can you see that, please? Aainitio (talk) 14:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Aainitio, again you need to make changes to pt:MediaWiki:Common.css before it will work. Frietjes (talk) 14:23, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Forgive me, my friend. Now I get it. Thank you for your excellent attention and help. Aainitio (talk) 14:37, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


Hi again!

I wondered, when I edit article like, say Deir Nidham, I would like to put into the info box a field about elevation = 573m (The ARIJ, p. 4, gives the info)...much like is done in, say, some of the Lebanese places, like Nabatieh.

When I tried to copy the parameters from the Nabatieh infobox into the Deir Nidham infobox, it didn't work. Do you know any solution? Huldra (talk) 23:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
User:Jonesey95: Great! Thanks! Huldra (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

noinclude ![edit]

This edit sent a whole lot of totally innocent cricketers to CAT:CSD. If you ever nominate a page which is transcluded for deletion, you must bracket the deletion tag with <noinclude></noinclude> . — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:57, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Also, if a template is recreated after TfD, please use WP:CSD#G4 not WP:CSD#G6. However, when closing TfD, using G6 to delete. Hhkohh (talk) 15:19, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit summaries please![edit]

It looks like you're making a bunch of (semi-automated?) edits to remove extra spaces from article templates. Could you please start using edit summaries to say what you're doing to save people time trying to figure it out on their own? The raw diffs look horrendous at least on my screen. ~Awilley (talk) 13:58, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


Dear Frietjes, thank you very much for your work. i noticed that i did have pages three times in the reference, as the book quoted has all the articles in german and english and such i accidently gave both pages...5-8 german text and 12-14 english text. My problem is that i additionally to the english pages 12-14, i would have to name, where specific the quote belongs to: page 14 - but with this template, i may not use twice the tag "page", can you help me to solve this problem, please? <ref>{{cite book |last=Hirner |first=René |editor1-last=Hirner |editor1-first=René |editor2-last=Gassen |editor2-first=Richard |title=Achim Zeman: Art Museum Heidenheim/Wilhelm-Hack-Museum Ludwigshafen, Ausstellungskatalog |trans-title=Achim Zeman: Art Museum Heidenheim/Wilhelm-Hack-Museum Ludwigshafen, exhibition catalog |publisher=Kunstmuseum Heidenheim/Wilhelm-Hack-Museum Ludwigshafen |year=1999 |chapter=Fluten. Kunstmuseum Heidenheim 1998 |trans-chapter=Flood. Art museum Heidenheim 1998 |ISBN=9783931182618 |pages=12-14|page=p.14}}}</ref> - in german we have "Seiten=" and "Fundstelle= - Fundstelle marking the special site on which we refer to... .is there anything likely in the english wikipedia? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 21:49, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Gyanda, here we use |pages= when there is more than one page, and |page= when there is only one page. we don't cite the total number of pages. we also don't cite the pages for the particular chapter if we are only citing part of the chapter. if you want more input, you can always ask at Help talk:Citation Style 1. Frietjes (talk) 12:52, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
That's great news for me, dear Frietjes, thank you very much!!! Finally some info! Wonderful!!! Thanks! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 13:40, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Template feasibility[edit]

Hello, thanks again for all your work replacing the fb team/competition templates and converting to modules. I've had an idea for a template/module, but am unsure whether it is actually feasible. At UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying#Goalscorers, there is a list of all the top scorers in the qualifying competition. On the qualifying sub-articles (i.e. UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group D, UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying play-offs) there are also lists of goalscorers at the bottom. For example, Arkadiusz Milik scored 6 goals in the group, as listed on both articles. Jonathan Walters scored 3 goals in his group, as well as 2 goals in the play-offs, and therefore is lited having scored 5 goals on the main article. Is a template/module feasible which, with all goalscorer data, would be able to output the list of scorers by round, sorted by number of goals? For example, in this situation, Jonathan Walters would be listed with | goals_GrD = 3 | goals_PO = 2, and then display the correct amount of goals on the 3 articles (3 Group D, 2 play-offs, 5 main article). Would you know if something like this is possible, or would it be too complex? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 18:23, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

S.A. Julio, probably possible. the difficulty would be that you would need all the data in the same module call to have the module sort the data into the various groups. so, the input syntax could be fairly large in volume. I will think about it. Frietjes (talk) 20:21, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. What if the scoring data was in a template and separated by country using a switch function (e.g. User:S.A. Julio/sandbox2)? And in the module call, you defined the rounds each country took part in (i.e. | POL = GrD and | IRL = GrD, PO, or something like | GrD = GER, POL, IRL, SCO, GEO, GIB)? Then the data for only the relevant countries could be called. S.A. Julio (talk) 22:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Football module on Andrea Farkas[edit]

Any idea why the infobox for Andrea Farkas does not wrap the appearance note of {{Infobox football biography}}, which is embedded in {{Infobox handball biography}}? Normal display can be seen on Michel Platini. Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 04:39, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

S.A. Julio, the handball biography sets white-space:nowrap for the data fields, which included the data field containing the football module. I have fixed the problem. Frietjes (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank You! Citole[edit]

Thank you for your help getting the citole page to look right. I am going to use that as a model for any future galleries I create. Right now the only other big gallery is on The Young Companion. I'll use that for my guinea-pig. Thank you again! Jacqke (talk) 15:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Jacqke, your welcome. there is almost no reason to not use the gallery tag instead of the gallery template. the gallery tag behaves much better when the images have multiline captions, and has many more optional features. Frietjes (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Jacqke, for The Young Companion, you might consider using <gallery mode=packed heights=180>, or the default mode <gallery class=center widths=140 heights=180>. setting the widths and heights help keep the border tight around the image. Frietjes (talk) 16:05, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, I certainly will.Jacqke (talk) 01:52, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Lint error in module:sports rbr table[edit]

Several pages using this module are turning up on Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag, citing a <div> issue. It looks like that module is your work, so I thought I'd pass this along - I'm certainly not going to mess with it. pauli133 (talk) 20:23, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Module:Sports rbr table[edit]

Thanks for creating this module. Can you add |updated= into this module? Hhkohh (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

okay, it should function similar to Module:Sports table. Frietjes (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. And suggest add |start date= to match Module:Sports table and Module:Sports results Hhkohh (talk) 05:16, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

A question pls[edit]

Hi Sorry to bother u I think you are an editor In the page of William II of the Netherlands He is a king but in his categories he is put as and lgbt head of goverments also with him being lgbt heads of state So is this right As a king he is a head of goverment How is that Can you please clarify if u dont mind And thx AdamPrideTN (talk) 15:49, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

AdamPrideTN, I would suggest starting a discussion on the talk page. but, you may wish to read the text at the top of Category:Heads of government which states that the category includes "heads of government" whether or not the individual is also the "head of state". Frietjes (talk) 15:53, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Concerning categories[edit]

I have 2 questions please First Sophus Thalbitzer is about a straight ally doctor who like Evelyn Hooker helped to decriminalise homosexuality in Denmark His categories are only LGBT history in Denmark But i added the categories of sexual orientation and psychology and the one of sexual orientatiin and science just like those of Evelyn Hooker ones. So should Evelyn Hooker be added to LGBT history in the US category Should Evelyn hooker and dophus trablitzer both be added to the category of LGBT activists in the us and in denmark resoectively Since that category contains a lot of LGBT allies and friends and scientists or what?

Second the page Lesbian Movement (Denmark) is in the category of LGBt history in denmark It is an lgbt assiciation that is defunct now Should it be put in LGBt assiciatii's in denmark category or what Or be created in a new categor of defunct lgbt association in the denmark as i qaw this category with many associatiins Or what what do u think Sorry for the bother again This may sound stupid and unnecessary for some But it is so important and improving believe me AdamPrideTN (talk) 01:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

AdamPrideTN, I would suggest asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies, or asking one of the members of that project directly. Frietjes (talk) 13:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Cricket squads at TfD[edit]

Hi. You might be interested in this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:29, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

An update Concerning Tommy Ahlers[edit]

Hello Sorry to bother u but u are only one of the few who i know who can help and did respond to me An update Concerning Tommy Ahlers He is a danish politician and cabinet minister who just came out as bisexual madame, I'm still new here and still learning little by little I want to translate his page into Arabic but i cant till this important update So can u please create a personal life subtitle in his page or just add it as an info that after reading the resources he came out as bisexual after reading some of the references And if u cant or dont have time Just say it ots ok sorry to bother with that so i can maybe ask an other editor bcos if i post in its discussion space or discussion on lgbtstudies nobody will answer or look fir it as it happened before These are english references

Here are danish references

AdamPrideTN (talk) 14:35, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Alma Mana'o[edit]

Hello, on Alma Mana'o there is a blank line toward the bottom of the infobox, is it possible to adjust {{Infobox football biography}} to remove this? As this player has only a college career (no senior teams), the usual "senior club appearance" note does not appear, which seems to leave the blank line. Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 01:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

S.A. Julio, should be fixed now. Frietjes (talk) 13:11, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Module help[edit]

Hello Frietjes, is there a module for this section? It uses the Template:Fb rs template.--Teacher0691 (talk) 23:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Teacher0691, I am not aware of a module replacement for the {{fb rs}} template. rewriting that one in LUA isn't critical (as far as I can tell), unless there is something that I am not seeing. Frietjes (talk) 16:54, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


Qwerty number1 (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Offsetting position numbers in Module:Sports table[edit]

Hello, I was wondering if there would be a way to "offset" the positions in Module:Sports table? For example, at Template:2018–19 UEFA Nations League B overall table, the "position" column (used for overall rank) begins with 13. Could something like |offset=13 adjust the numbering, so that |team1=WAL shows 13 for Wales in the position column, and |team12=IRL shows 24 for Ireland? Then each country's number in the position column wouldn't need to be modified. Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 17:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

S.A. Julio, probably undocumented, but this works. Frietjes (talk) 17:45, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks! S.A. Julio (talk) 18:10, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Fb cl2 team pnd[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Fb cl2 team pnd has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 13:49, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Module:Sidebar games events[edit]

Howdy! Long time no talk my friend. I'm finally back from my Wiki sabbatical. Face-smile.svg How have you been? I'm getting back to work with {{Sidebar games events}} and was wondering if you might be interested in helping me out a bit. You did such an amazing job with Module:Sidebar games events!! Basically I've come across another case that I need to account for... {{2012 European Aquatics Championships}}. There are at least 50 templates in this format. What is missing is an option that would create the rows for "Diving", "Open Water Swimming", "Swimming" and "Synchronized Swimming". My thought was to create a {{{titleXX}}} ({{{title1}}}, {{{title2}}}, etc..) that would create a cell with #99BADD as the background color. If you have the time to help with that, I would greatly appreciate it! Hope you are well. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:08, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, see this discussion. it's not clear if these are going to be replaced with some horrible wikitable hack. Frietjes (talk) 17:14, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, the |titleXX= should work now. feel free to add this to the documentation. Frietjes (talk) 17:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
First, you rock!!! Second, EWWW to that discussion... I will pray that doesn't happen... --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:32, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

A goat for you![edit]

Boer Goat (8742860752).jpg

Just a reminder that you are awesome. Left a message on your page asking for some help, and MINUTES later, you were all over it. People like you are what make Wikipedia awesome.

Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

2018 Football Federation Victoria season[edit]

Hi there Frietjes; Someone has recently started an article for 2018 Football Federation Victoria season, but added tables in one of the old formats. Are you please able with your scripts to convert these to the new format please? Matilda Maniac (talk) 16:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Matilda Maniac, okay, I updated them to the {{fb cl2 team}} templates as a first step. can you verify the points for NPL 2 West? in particular, the ones with ? after the points are ones that I had to adjust to match the source. I am guessing that each team had a 3 point deduction, but there was no explanation in the source. Frietjes (talk) 17:33, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
I will investigate. Thank you. Matilda Maniac (talk) 17:34, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Category:Pages using small with an empty input parameter[edit]

Where's the discussion that sportspeople (motorsports) can't have this template? It's used in their ongoing season, so that updating the results after each race is fast and easy. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:05, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Pelmeen10, you can use {{small}}, it's just pointless to use it when it has no input parameters. Frietjes (talk) 18:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
I just explained why this is used, it's not pointless. I understand if you remove the "small" from articles, where it has no meaning - but not from sportspeople's 2018 season results... What's the point of example1 edit? If you'd like to reduce unused code, then you should also remove style="background:#;" and <br />. But please don't do that again for the 2018 season. Do I need to start a discussion at WP:MOTOR? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:17, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
sure, start a thread at WT:MOTOR. Frietjes (talk) 18:21, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Template:Infobox cabinet members[edit]

Howdy. Wanted to get your thoughts on creating a module for {{Infobox cabinet members}}. I was originally thinking of using {{infobox3cols}} but it was starting to get complicated... Any thoughts? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:06, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'm not quite clear on what you're trying to do, but looking at that module (Module:Cabinet members), I get the impression that a module is indeed prudent. Bellezzasolo Discuss 21:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Your Fb script[edit]

Can you change script summary to Per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 September 4#Fb rbr templates outcome in order to make more sense, thanks Hhkohh (talk) 14:58, 15 September 2018 (UTC)


Wondering if you might be willing to assist me with a module. I'm trying to build a template/module that will generate a medals table. It would automatically generate the sums and thus the corresponding ranks of nations. {{Medals table}} & Module:Medals table are well on their way... What I've gotten stuck on is the automatic generation of the rank based on the total medal count of a nation. Added a test case (Template:Medals table/testcases) to show the issue. Would be very grateful for any assistance! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:45, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Seriously, you absolutely rock. Thank you SO MUCH!!! If you ever require my assistance in any way, shape or form, please do not hesitate to ping me. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, let me know if you want me to explain any of the code. there are a few different ways to achieve the desired sorting. it might have been slightly easier to create a table of pairs and sort based on the first item in each pair, but instead, I put both numbers in the same entry with an _ between the numbers. Frietjes (talk) 22:16, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
No that makes total sense! I'm pretty good at programming but am totally new to Lua. I'm used to Ruby so the syntax is way different. Really appreciate all your help! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, okay, I simplified it to use the number pairs (less string processing). I am done messing with it unless there is something that I broke. Frietjes (talk) 22:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

More help...[edit]

So Hoping you might be willing to assist me again... I'm like 80% of the way there with Module:Infobox cabinet members. My test case that I'm running it against is Template:Infobox cabinet members/testcases. Basically what I am stuck on is how to figure out how many rows there are in each section. I.E. the first section has 5, the second has 2 and the last one has 3. I tried to follow your logic from Module:Sidebar games events but got kinda lost. Would be super grateful if you could point me in the right direction on this. :-) --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

So I see you're working on this... You freaking rock... Template:Infobox cabinet members/testcases added a new test case at the bottom that is what is currently broken. :-\ --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, should be generally fixed now. I am always a bit uncertain of how to sort tables that aren't sequences, which is why I put the "keys" in there. I am guessing that the table.sort(r) is working on line 158 because the values are the same as the keys. the non-lua version will not show any rows if "namea" is missing, so I did the same for the lua version. I suppose we could allow someone to skip the first subrow, but that would be a new feature. I am done messing with it for now. Frietjes (talk) 19:13, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much!!!! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:15, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, I plan to simplify lines 129 to 145 now that I know that name must be there for a row to be displayed, but I don't plan to do that until tomorrow. Frietjes (talk) 19:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
no rush! I'm also curious if there is a better way to write lines 36-60? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate below= in navboxes[edit]

Thanks for fixing my parameter errors and for the useful link to Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls in User:Frietjes/findargdups. I'd been looking for that page to check my own work but didn't guess the right search terms. Certes (talk) 15:59, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Infobox widths[edit]

Thank you for sorting out the milhist infobox width mess. This has taken ten years. Also can I just say that I'm impressed with how many of your talk page sections are people (like me) coming here to thank you for something. Kendall-K1 (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Please develop a script[edit]

Can develop a script which can convert standard table like 2018 Myanmar National League#Result to module? thanks Hhkohh (talk) 14:19, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

will work on it tomorrow. Frietjes (talk) 15:43, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I have something that generally works, but requires some manual fixing at the end. you replace the top table headings with {{fb rbr pos header|sort=y}}, so it looks like
{{fb rbr pos header|sort=y}}
|- align=center
| align=left || [[Team 1]] || 1 || 2 ...
then, you use the script, and fix the output when it's done. the fixes are (1) it is adding an extra round at the end, which I can fix in the script, but haven't had a chance to do so, (2) the legend labels and colors are probably not exact what you want, (3) the legend position isn't exactly where you want it, (4) any toptext, sources or other notes may need integrating. I can add something for the ground/result/position tables if desired. Frietjes (talk) 16:13, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Sounds great, I have done for 2018 Thai League, but we still should work on 2018 Philippines Football League Hhkohh (talk) 17:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
should be a bit better now, but still needs manual tweaking of the end result to get the legend correctly labelled and in the correct position. Frietjes (talk) 14:00, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Can you help me fix this edit? It seems like a module issue Hhkohh (talk) 09:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Hhkohh, I have seen that before. the module converts any non-numeric gf or ga to zero. I will make some changes, and see if anyone objects. Frietjes (talk) 13:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)


Given a specific module (say Module:Medals table) is there some trick to seeing any pages that implement that module and are throwing an error/producing an error message within the context of the module? I.E. Where something is broken with the module on that particular implementation? I feel like that must be something that can be done, I just don't know how to do it. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, I typically check Category:Pages with script errors after any changes; possibly purging all the uses (if there aren't too many) using my purge script. Frietjes (talk) 13:27, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
also, you should _always_ use "show preview" before saving, which will show you that you have been adding pages to Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. I can't see how you are checking that the table before conversion is the same as after conversion if you aren't using "show preview" before saving. Frietjes (talk) 13:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
You are 100% right. I've earned myself a couple WP:TROUTs over the last few days. I got this insane regex setup going in WP:AWB and got so confident in it that I was just giving pages a cursory glance before clicking save. BAD IDEA. I'm reworking the entire thing and being much more careful moving forward. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:58, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Question about transclusion[edit]

Regarding your edit here, what is the difference between using module or template because for me it has no difference. Thanks. Hddty. (talk) 16:33, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hddty., notice that 2018 Asian Games medal table is transcluded by 2018 Asian Games. so, the call sequence is 2018 Asian Games calls 2018 Asian Games medal table which calls Module:Medals table. a module has access to arguments directly passed through the "#invoke" and from the transcluding parent. by using the module directly in 2018 Asian Games medal table, the module can read the |show_limit=10 in 2018 Asian Games. if we had used the template there, instead of the module, the module would not have been able to access the |show_limit=10 in 2018 Asian Games. in most cases, it doesn't matter which one you use. but here, we need to use the module directly or implicitly passing the |show_limit=10 wouldn't work (only explicitly passing would work). Frietjes (talk) 16:42, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Sports rivalry infoboxes[edit]

Hi Frietjes. Do you know why the logos are being cut off in rivalry articles (e.g. Georgia Tech–Virginia Tech football rivalry)? It is happening in a majority of the rivalry articles and I can't seem to figure out what the problem is with the infobox. Do we need to make that space a bit larger so that the logos don't get cut off? Corky 00:40, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Corkythehornetfan, they aren't cut off for me. which OS and browser and skin? I typically use Linux/Firefox/Vector, but I can try others. Frietjes (talk) 14:00, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
I am use Safari on my iPad and laptop, and Chrome is used on my Android. Both browsers show the logos cut off at the bottom by just a little bit. Corky 15:19, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Corkythehornetfan, you didn't tell me which skin you use. you can find it in your preferences. Frietjes (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
I apologize, I'm still not quite awake yet! I user the vector (default) skin. Corky 15:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with an atypical party value has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with an atypical party value, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  05:18, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Infoboxes again[edit]

Apropos Operation Fritham et al. I changed the px to 250, is that OK? Is there way to use the map images I put in and know if they're too big for 300px, which I thought was the standard? (apart from comparing with the campaignbox that is? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 08:14, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

PS do you know where I can inquire about something called Regex editor, which has stopped me using Ohconfucius's Engvar b add on? Keith-264 (talk) 08:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Keith-264, for me, 295px and under does not stretch the infobox, but to be safe, I would recommend 285px or below. some experimentation using "show preivew" will find the limits for you. looking at the code for the EngVarB script, it looks like the regex commands are loaded from standardise.js which uses pathoschild.templatescript.js. in the comments for the second script, it indicates that it adds an "example regex editor". the most recent updates to any of the three scripts was and update on September 11 to the EngvarB.js script. if you look at the diff for that edit, it looks like the core backend script URL was changed, as well as the method for loading it. I, personally, don't use any of those scripts. you might try asking one of these users if any are actively using the script since it looks like you aren't getting any response on the talk page for the script. Frietjes (talk) 14:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks very much, I'll give it a go. Keith-264 (talk) 14:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
285 was still too wide but 250 seems OK.Keith-264 (talk) 16:44, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Pointers to Sydney railway stations from adjacent stations in "services" in infoboxes.[edit]

Ever since I have been doing maintenance on Sydney railway stations there have been problems in this area. This came to the front again in the past week when I found Chatswood railway station had been edited some six months ago with a change in that area but which was not displaying. That in itself has been resolved but it did highlight some other problems eg Bankstown railway station has pointers from adjacent stations Punchbowl railway station and Yagoona railway station which point correctly to Bankstown station. On the other hand Carlingford railway station and Miranda railway station have pointers in adjacent stations such as Gymea railway station which have the suffix ",New South Wales" added. Firstly this should not be there and secondly should be ",Sydney" if it was to be there. I now believe this problem is being caused by the default statement in {{Sydney Trains stations}} which I dont fully understand. But I believe it should create a link to the station concerned without a suffix if it exists as do the three stations I mentioned above. Any stations which require a ",Sydney" suffix are present separately in a non default situation. If the station does not exist a link should not be created but posted as an error condition to highlight to the editor that a wrong station name has been entered or that the station needs to be added. This is already being discussed in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Use of default in station lists. Template {{NSW TrainLink intercity stations}} which does the same thing for Intercity stations does not have a default statement an I believe it should have a similar default.Fleet Lists (talk) 05:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Fleet Lists, the default first checks to see if the "railway station, New South Wales" suffix article exists. if that article exists, then it uses that as the link. if that article doesn't exist, then it uses the standard "railway station" suffix. I believe the reason for this is that the standard "railway station" suffix might be a disambiguation page, or the wrong article, while the "railway station, New South Wales" suffix should always be the correct station (if the article exists). I see no problem with changing the default, but you should first see where the default is being used to make sure nothing breaks. Frietjes (talk) 15:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Fleet Lists, I did some investigating and found that the "railway station, New South Wales" suffix was never needed. I removed that branch of the code, but left the default in the switch. we could remove the default, but we would need to add every station to the switch, which is a lot. you can see all the pages using the default linking scheme to generate a link in Category:Pages using Sydney Trains stations with a default link. the entries are sorted by the station name. Frietjes (talk) 17:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank You - that looks fantastic.Fleet Lists (talk) 22:27, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the cleanup. I was pulled into this by a request from Fleet Lists and managed to figure out a small portion of what was needed. Is there some general documentation on how these train templates are intended to work? I would think that for most cases, the individual stations would not necessarily need to be listed in the stations template if their naming followed the standardized conventions assumed by the default string. But I can also see where naming the stations would make the overall process less mysterious to newcomers. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 20:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
jmcgnh, yes, the general idea is to only add exceptions where needed, and have most everything else in the default pattern. if you don't have a default pattern, you get blank output from the switch, which is probably more astonishing than the default output. you might get more insight from editors at WT:WikiProject Trains. Frietjes (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
A reasonable suggestion; I had already started WT:WikiProject Trains#Use of default in station lists but so far it has just been Fleet Lists who has responded. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 17:51, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
@Jmcgnh and Fleet Lists: be careful with switch statements, for example, this edit changed the links for Croydon, Como, and many more to point to Domestic! same for Guildford and Holsworthy, and many more pointing to International! any line without an = sign uses the pattern in the next line, and so on, until it reaches a line with an = sign. so, you need to put all the stations with the same pattern in the same block of code, and not mix-and-match or it will do bad things. Frietjes (talk) 20:22, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Understood. The "fall through" behavior of switch statements can catch one unawares. But Fleet Lists was correct in observing that "domestic" and "international" need exceptions. There are a few other places where I've noticed potential problems in the switch statements, but had not yet gone to look at them more carefully. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 21:36, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Sorry I got caught out on that one. I am still sure that I need to do these clean ups - not only on the Sydney trains template but also on others like {{NSW Country lines stations}} where I made some changes yesterday because many locations were linking to incorrect places. As a result some stations are now linking to ambiguation pages. These will need to be defined as exceptions in the template concerned, the same as in the Sydney template - something I hope to do progressively over the next week or so. I have just fixed the closed line stations template in that respect - this is now believed to link correctly in all cases.Fleet Lists (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I identified 15 stations which needed the New South Wales suffix forced and added these to template which worked fine until I got to Orange railway station, New South Wales where I found that Parkes railway station, Stuart Town railway station and Parkes railway station still linked to Orange railway station, Sydney which is incorrect. I then found that these stations use a different template {{NSW TrainLink stations}} instead for some lines. This template has the same problems as I fixed in the other template yesterday. It seems crazy having two templates doing virtually doing the same thing. Any further advice would be welcome.Fleet Lists (talk) 01:40, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Just a final thought for the day. Is it possible to redirect the NSW Trainlink stations template to the NSW Country lines stations template? The former seems rather clumsy with all stations without a suffix having to be defined in it.Fleet Lists (talk) 02:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I could not help myself but have updated the NSW Tranlink template to look like Country Lines one so that all the stations without suffix have been removed and will now be taken care of by the default. This should remove the bugs I found in that area earlier today.Fleet Lists (talk) 04:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
@Jmcgnh and Fleet Lists:, I created Template:NSW_Country_lines_stations/testcases by (1) taking the list of all articles using the template, (2) stripping the suffixes from the names, (3) creating a for loop to show all the entries. I also created Template:NSW_Country_lines_stations/testcases/row so that you can see the input and the output in the table. this should cover most all of the uses, although it won't have the cases where the article doesn't exist. Frietjes (talk) 17:01, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your help.I need to do one more template to standardise the approach of treating all those without a suffix as default and define those with a suffix. But I wont have time to do that for the next few days as I am involved in some things outside wiki.Fleet Lists (talk) 04:10, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
I did find some time today to do some work on this. In the template sandbox I created a template which I think would be common to all the templates which create these station links [36] but I have not been able to work out how to make it into a real template with name something like "New South Wales stations with suffix" This would replace code in Template:Sydney Trains stations, Template:Closed Lines stations , Template:NSW Country lines stations, Template:NSW TrainLink intercity stations and Template:NSW TrainLink stations. This would considerably simplify maintenance in that only one template would need to be modified if there is a station change. Once the template is created I think I would be able to modify the templates concerned to link to the new one. Fleet Lists (talk) 08:36, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
I have since created Template:New South Wales railway stations with suffix I then tested it with Template:Closed Lines stations where I replaced the two ,Sydney stations with a link to the new template, using Dunheved railway station as the test station where both Cochrane railway station, Sydney and St Marys railway station, Sydney should have had the ,Sydney added but they did not. Any comments would be appreciated.Fleet Lists (talk) 08:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Could you comment [37] please?Fleet Lists (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
I have now modified Template:Sydney_Trains_stations by restoring the double default options but changing the first one from New South Wales to Sydney which was changed by someone a few years ago. After doing that I found that there is no need for a list of Sydney stations to be forced. I hope to do the same thing for the country templates once I am sure this one is working OK. {{NSW TrainLink intercity stations}} still has me worried as it has a mixture of stations with the two suffixes where I am hoping some of those crook redirects will be deleted.Fleet Lists (talk) 03:11, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
I think I started investigating this at first back in 2015 and I think I have finally cleaned it all up. After the articles with wrong , Sydney suffices were deleted today but not the ones with , New South Wales suffices, I cleaned up Template:NSW_TrainLink_stations which is now quite simple compared with what it was a few months ago. And Template:NSW_TrainLink_intercity_stations which was fairly similar has been redirected to the first one to cut out the duplication. Hopefully I can stop worrying about this now. Just one strange thing but nothing I am worried about.When going to[38] to see if there is anything still linking to Goulburn, Sydney, against expectations there are a number of stations listed - it appears that when preparing this list, it treats Goulburn, Sydney as current and not deleted - the same for other deleted stations.Fleet Lists (talk) 07:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Fleet Lists, unfortunately, #ifexist: generates links in "WhatLinksHere". so, even though you avoid redlinks, you still get entries in WhatLinksHere. Frietjes (talk) 15:19, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Orphaning Template:Copyrighted free use provided that[edit]

A few days ago, I closed the TfD for Template:Copyrighted free use provided that as delete. Can you please suggest how this template can be orphaned. There are many links on files that use this template. Should I just remove the links to the files that use this template? Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Pkbwcgs, simply removing the template is probably not the best idea. better to examine each usage to make sure the proper {{attribution}} is there. I would suggest asking the editors advocating for deletion to help. Frietjes (talk) 13:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

User Script Request[edit]

Since you are superb at making user scripts in JS, I wanted to request one... I've come across a number of pages with poorly formatted infobox syntax. Something like:

{{Infobox book|name = Carry On|title_orig = |translator = |author = [[Rainbow Rowell]]|illustrator = |cover_artist = |country = United States|language = English|series = |subject = |genre = |publisher = St. Martin's Press|pub_date = October 2015|english_pub_date = |media_type = Print ([[Hardback]]), Audiobook|pages = 528|isbn = 1250049555|oclc = |dewey = |congress = | image = Carry On (novel).jpg}}

Would be awesome to have a user script that could be run to convert that to:

{{Infobox book
 |name = Carry On
 |title_orig = 
 |translator = 
 |author = [[Rainbow Rowell]]

Just a thought. I'm sure you have plenty of other things to work on... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, you can try User:Frietjes/indent.js, but only use it in article space. it does something very dangerous if you try to use it in template space or module space. and, make sure you preview before saving! Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
I tried just now to use that on Carry On (novel) but nothing happened. :-\ --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:16, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
not sure why, when I run it on that article, it does exactly what you requested. Frietjes (talk) 18:17, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, I just copied your common.js to my common.js and clicked on the "Indent" button in the toolbox when I was in edit mode for Carry On (novel) and it unrolled the infobox as expected. Frietjes (talk) 18:25, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Well that is weird.... Maybe I've got some extension on my browser that is messing with it. Oh well. Thanks so much! --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:31, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Figured it out... I had syntax highlighting turned on. That doesn't play well with JS. :-p Thanks again!!! --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:33, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, I have syntax highlighting turned on and it works for me, but may be breaking one of your other scripts? I would have to do more testing to know for sure. Frietjes (talk) 18:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Zackmann08, I do see some missing semicolon warnings in your common.js, but that would prevent the script from loading if that were a problem, so I wouldn't expect that you would see any button in that case. Frietjes (talk) 18:39, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
No worries. I can just turn off syntax highlighting to get it to work. I'll debug it later. Thanks for the help! Great script as always. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Help fixing Template:Philippine census reference error[edit]

Hello. Could you please fix this template: Template:Philippine census reference. It affects several Philippine place pages that uses Template:Philippine Census like this (kindly check References section). I could not trace the cause of the error. Thank you. Sanglahi86 (talk) 02:11, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Possibly T205803. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Jonesey95, yes, that's the problem. Sanglahi86, I hacked a work around which (1) strips the templatestyles from the citation using Template:Philippine census reference/strip and then adds it back outside the <ref>...</ref> at the end of Template:Philippine census reference. Jonesey95, please let me know if this is ever fixed so I can remove the hacks. I will post a note at Help talk:Citation Style 1 as well. thank you for pointing me to the problem. Frietjes (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
now moved to a module, but it looks like T205803 will be fixed :) Frietjes (talk) 16:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Read This Please[edit]

Make A Category on Pages Using Infobox Saint Please! Simple Lang Ako (talk) 07:01, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You don't need a category. You can use What links here (on the left side of the page at Template:Infobox saint). – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


Sorry to post here but I don't want to add to the issues at Help talk:Citation Style 1 regarding something I don't understand. My problem is that Category:Convert errors is showing 23 articles with convert errors. I think they are due to the recent edit at Template:GeoQuelle/Ref1. For example, Mže has length = 105.2 {{GeoQuelle|DE-BY|GV}} in the infobox. That is passed to convert which used to work because (I think) GeoQuelle used to output a pure reference and convert knows to regard such references as not part of the input number. However, (I think) GeoQuelle is now also outputting <templatestyles src="Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css"></templatestyles> and convert thinks that is part of the input number and so throws an error. Regardless of whatever the problem is at phab:T205803, does convert need to start processing templatestyles in the same way it handles references? Life is getting complicated! Johnuniq (talk) 08:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Johnuniq, I reverted my changes to {{GeoQuelle}}. I have been told that phab:T205803 will probably be fixed on Thursday. I believe the fix is to call unstrip before comparing references, so the templatestyles should still be inside the ref tag. so, I don't think there will be a need for changes to {{convert}}. sorry about the trouble. Frietjes (talk) 14:14, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
I temporarily re-enabled it to get some more examples; I generally believe these can be fixed by moving them to the footnotes after the conversion, but there may be too many to fix right now. Frietjes (talk) 17:53, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, it's no trouble, and thanks for fixing such a wide variety of templates/modules! Johnuniq (talk) 22:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Please stop[edit]

Please stop reverting my edit on Template:Intel until the TfD is done. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 16:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

the reverts have nothing to do with the use of templatestyles, and everything to do with the introduction of unnecessary styling. Frietjes (talk) 16:45, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Updating CFB schedule templates[edit]

Hi Frietjes. You mentioned using a conversion module for the schedule templates in 2018 Nebraska Cornhuskers football team which appeared to be pretty easy. Would you mind doing the same thing to 2018 Big Ten Conference football season, or if you're too busy, showing me how to do it myself? Hoof Hearted (talk) 20:28, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hoof Hearted, you replace
{{CFB Schedule Start|...}}
{{CFB Schedule Entry|...}}
{{CFB Schedule End|...}}


{{subst:#invoke:CFB schedule/convert|subst|{{CFB Schedule Start|...}}
{{CFB Schedule Entry|...}}
{{CFB Schedule End|...}}}}

and use "show preview" to see the result. any unrecognized parameters are currently ignored (which shouldn't be a problem since Category:Pages using CFB Schedule Start with unknown parameters, Category:Pages using CFB Schedule Entry with unknown parameters, Category:Pages using CFB Schedule End with unknown parameters are empty). if you accidentally pass any other stuff through the module, it should be appended to the end, so you should see any problems with "show preview". I, personally, haven't seen any conversion errors, but I don't think it's been used on more than ca. 100 articles thus far. Frietjes (talk) 20:35, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hoof Hearted, it looks like 2018 Big Ten Conference football season is using Template:CFB Conference Schedule Entry, which is not the same as Template:CFB Schedule Entry, so the conversion won't work there :( Frietjes (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict). Yep, I just realized the same thing. OK, I can take a run at it manually if I get time. I'm not super-concerned about it. Thanks again for the help! Hoof Hearted (talk) 20:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


Have you ever considered apply to be an admin? I would 100% endorse and that is coming from someone who has been scolded by you a few times when I've screwed up. You know your stuff and IMHO would make a superb admin. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'd definitely support Requests for adminship/Frietjes. Bellezzasolo Discuss 21:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

No explination[edit]

I have no explanation for this. Literally no clue what happened... Only thing I can think is that I copied the wrong open box?! Honestly NO clue. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:46, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maîtresse Françoise[edit]


The article Maîtresse Françoise has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Article whose subject fails to meet the relevant notability guideline.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Lotus 50 (talk) 11:43, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Curious about this edit[edit]

Is the {{gallery}} template deprecated, or is there some guidance against its use for accessibility reasons? —swpbT go beyond 17:28, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Swpb, lots of problems with the appearance on mobile (see the talk page). the <gallery>...</gallery> is supported by the core devs, but the template is constantly having problems. we are working on making it a simple frontend for the <gallery>...</gallery>, but unfortunately, that will mean removing the |widthN= parameters, since <gallery>...</gallery> doesn't support those. there were only about 50 articles using the |widthN= parameters, so I converted those to use <gallery>...</gallery> or {{multiple image}} to facilitate conversion of {{gallery}} to a frontend for <gallery>...</gallery>. Frietjes (talk) 17:33, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Interesting, thanks for that work! —swpbT go beyond 13:33, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Module talk:Sports results#A-league[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Module talk:Sports results#A-league. Hhkohh (talk) 09:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

New linter errors in Template:USCongDistStateList and Template:USCongDistState[edit]

Your edits to these templates on 26 October 2018 appear to have introduced Linter errors (misnested span tags, stripped span tags and missing span end tags, all with the same apparent root cause). I'm not sure what your intent was, so I am hesitant to fiddle with them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:40, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Jonesey95, I changed the {{allow wrap}} to use <div class=wrap> instead. Did that fix it? Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:15, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that worked. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:49, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
thank you, I did not notice that allow wrap was using span. Frietjes (talk) 14:58, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox song contest/Eurovision Asia Song Contest 2019[edit]

Why did you nominate this template for deletion as unused while it is used in Eurovision Asia Song Contest 2019? I have also added a comment at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 November 5 that writes where the template is used. Thanks —Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 20:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Infobox canal[edit]

As the master of all things templates, always interested in your thoughts on Template_talk:Infobox_canal#Redoing_template.... I'm happy to do the work in the sandbox and all that, but if you have any thoughts... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate reference errors from Swiss templates[edit]

Hello! I'm trying to figure out why Cantons of Switzerland has duplicate reference errors on the refrence name "Stat2017". I think it's because the article includes {{Swiss populations}}, which then invokes a template based on the canton name parameter which brings population data ... for example, {{Swiss populations data CH-ZH}}. You recently edited each of these to use the same "Stat2017" referene name instead of a qualified name (like "Stat2017CH-ZH") which would be unique for the canton, and not cause collision. Is my analysis correct? Can you help me understand why your edit explicitly removed the workaround for multiple inclusions of different population data templates in the same article? -- Mikeblas (talk) 00:41, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Mikeblas, if two references have the same "name" they have to be exactly identical. checking my edits to {{Swiss populations data CH-ZH}}, it looks like I first change the reference name to a qualified name, but then undid my edit. presumably, I didn't see this as the cause of the problem at the point in time. I will look again. Frietjes (talk) 00:46, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
That's true, so we don't know which of the different canton templates might have a slightly different reference definition. To me, the Swiss templates seem quite complex but I'm not positive that complexity delivers proportional value. In particular, making references from a system of templates needs careful planning to work reliably. In this case, if the templates are meant to produce precisely the same refefrence, maybe that reference should be alone in its own template to assure there's exactly one copy of that reference text. Maybe that minimizes the chances of duplicate references? -- Mikeblas (talk) 00:55, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Some Stat2017 in the involved templates references seem to have "Staatsangehörigkeit''" (ending in tick tick), like {{Swiss populations data CH-SZ}} or {{Swiss populations data CH-UR}}. Some just have "Staatsangehörigkeit" (without tick tick), like in {tl|Swiss populations data CH-OW}} or {{Swiss populations data CH-NW}}. I can't figure out why the tick ticks should be there because they don't make sense for formatting. Or, maybe they should be coupled, and some part of the citation should be in italics. Do you think this might be the cuase? -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:16, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Mikeblas, yes, you are correct. I figured it out as well. to prevent this from happening in the future, I am moving them to a shared template. Frietjes (talk) 01:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Mikeblas, now fixed. Frietjes (talk) 01:25, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for helping! I hope my guesses helped! :) -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Template:Infobox album/sandbox[edit]

In a few minutes I'm going to save some edits to the above template. All deprecated parameters have been resolved so I want to clean up the code. Before I merge it to the main template, any chance I can get you to look it over? --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:24, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

User:Zackmann08, I fixed some things, but it looks like {{Infobox album/testcases}} should be updated to make sure nothing breaks. in particular, it's not clear if the italics/bolding changed for the succession links, or if everything that was removed was already removed from all the articles. Frietjes (talk) 13:44, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


Your edit at Template:Infobox Chinese/Chinese has made the hide area disappear. You must undo it immediately. Thank you. Scriptions (talk) 15:15, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Scriptions, should be fixed now. Frietjes (talk) 15:18, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Scriptions (talk) 15:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)