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Barnstar for you![edit]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary[edit]

From my talk page back in september.

Bugger bugger bugger, I saw a map in the transport museum in budapest we went the other week and it had the lat and long but in pretty much a mercator projection. My missus was more interested with the toy trains so I didn't get a chance to take the measures off it. If it's wrong (as it is) it should be deleted but I am still trying to get the measures right. The thing is it's specifically Kingdom of Hungary, but the more atlases (atli? :) I look at the more different lats and longs I get. And anything one does on Hungarian articles is rather contentious, so it is probably really better deleted. Because people whose great grandfathers were part of the Kingdom of Hungary will say no that's Croatia or Slovakia or Slovenia or Yugoslavia or Jugoslavia or The People's Republic of East Kebab. Since Hungarian politics is very contentious and goes on racist grounds in far more than would be allowed in where I come from, this is better off deleted. (Hint: say Treaty of Trianon to a Hungarian and await results.) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Hungary ethic groups.jpg
I never did get round to this. I took the coords off of file at right, which is very high quality but seems to have an odd idea of where 0 longitude is (it suggests it is east of Paris, but that didn't seem to work). As you suggested, I tried to take well-known points at the edges of the map: Fiume, for example, at south-west. I took very good readings after printing out this map at A0 size and using ruler and compass, my trig is quite good, but I could never get it to fit. Si Trew (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
.Oh, Template:Location_map_Kingdom_of_Hungary/test might help you. You see, Fiume's in the right place but Budapest is a bit too far left and the rest are well out. Si Trew (talk) 06:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
That map uses the Paris meridian. It's not a Mercator projection, the lines of latitude aren't quite parallel. Maproom (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, thanks for the tip. I have written code for generating coefficients for nonlinear projections if I know the functional form. but, the code requires at least as many reference points as there are coefficients. basically a nonlinear least-squares algorithm. the problem here is that other than the reference markings on the side of the map, it's tough to get reference points in the middle. Frietjes (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Si Trew, should we just give up on Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary and have it deleted? Frietjes (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
How many do you need in the middle? You get get a reference point near each corner by specifying where the nearest line of (Paris) longitude would cross the nearest line of latitude, and use towns like Szolnok (which Google Earth says is 47°10'N 20°11'E Greenwich) in the middle. Maproom (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, now that I look at it again, I think we have enough with the two interior intersection points and the points along the edges. the original question was about the image in Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary which is less clear. for File:Hungary-ethnic_groups.jpg, I think we can make a working location map. thank you again. Frietjes (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Just a thought, maybe not very coherent at this time of night. Using an ethnographic map as a location map may, as Si Trew pointed out, be contentious. Will it help if instead I upload to Commons this map? It uses a Ferro meridian, which is no worse than Paris, and shows enough towns such as Szolnok for central reference points. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, that may help. let's see what Si Trew says. my main focus is turning map images into working location maps. I don't really have a strong feeling about the particular map image, so long as it is created with a well-defined projection. Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Just asking out of curiosity – how do you "turn a map image into a location map"? Do you warp it into the Mercator projection that the template requires? Or do you supply the template with a transform function? Maproom (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, supply the transformation function. see, for example, module:Location map/data/Canada. if I know the functional form and a sufficient number of reference points, I can numerically solve for the coefficients. Frietjes (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. It's reassuring to see that things are done in such a sensible and comprehensible way. Incidentally – if you ever find a map image at that you could use in Wikipedia, please let me know and I'll put it on Commons. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thanks for pinging me in on this. I know it was a long time ago. User:Maproom, yes I did guess it was the Paris Meridian all that time ago, but that didn't seem quite to fit either. Since then I took something and with Inkscape made a four-colour map (five if you include Lake Balaton as a fifth colour, blue, but could have been made a fourth colour as those that surround it are all in three other colours, it is just more pleasant to have it in blue but not mathematically necessary) and split out all the layers and borders and so on into separate layers on the SVG. I seem to recall I called it Template:Location Map Hungary2 or something – and I emphasise this is not the Kingdom of Hungary but the modern-day Hungary. All I had left to do was get the text labelling right. Searching for "a new look for an old map" was something roughly want some commenter said, may well have been User:Frietjes here but may not have been (a long time ago, just going from memory: and those exact words are what was printed on the front of the first H C Beck fold-up London Underground Diagram (often called "Map"; Beck himself never called it a map: I have good references for this from publications of the London Transport Museum in woodware) of 1933, so I am probably confusing those words with the same sentiment expressed. This is all such a long time ago, I give as hints for those who can search better than I.
On the plus side, by pure coincidence (these are not common around here in Budapest) my local pub has a nice 1898ish German (I think) map of Austria-Hungary; certainly pre-Treaty of Trianon. This is a five or six colour map and I am pretty sure it is in German but I am going from memory, I don't think it's in Hungarian. It would be about 40 by 25 inches (1,020 mm × 640 mm) and I daresay somehow I could get it scanned in, in one of the largescale printers in the town (who I happen to be also on good terms with, for various other reasons) or just take four A3 scans and stitch them with photoshop, assuming that my scanner doesn't distort too much. I am on good terms with the landlord as I have given him my British registration plates and various other British pub memorablia, it is that kind of pub, very much a "local", so I can ask to borrow the map (it's framed) or just go in on a quiet afternoon with a straightedge etc and try to get some measures off that. I think it is not the same as the image is here, though quite similar. As a start shall I get the maker etc, would that help at all, before I do the trig etc off it? I have a very good straightedge and fifty quids worth of setsquare adjustable protractor that I use for technical drawing on my A0 drawing board, it's about 25 inches (640 mm) long on its hypotenuese, which should be enough to measure angles and distances with some kinda veracity, I am not sure of the projection without looking again. Is it worth me taking a look and reporting back, probably will be about UTC+2 Friday tomorrow, else Monday? If you give me some nice trig points "in the middle" I will do my best to give you the readings off of them. These won't be 100% accuracy but will be within a second of arc or two through the distortion of the glass in the frame, I would imagine. Si Trew (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I understand if it is WP:COPYVIO etc but if I check the maker first, it may very well turn out not to be because of the date and also various other "things that have happened since", could well be PD or fair use. I think I check the maker first, that is clear enough in top right corner but don't remember offhand. Would that be of any use, at least to confirm or deny if it's the same as this one? It reminded me of this one, when I first saw it, but I think it is different but of about the same time. Si Trew (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
File:Hungary_location_map.svg is the one I made the four-colour svg version of. It just needs tidying on the text labels layer if I remember right, I can't remember its name. The computer it was on is long gone. File:Hungary location map2.svg? Something like that. We have File:Hungary location map-2.jpg on Commons, but that's not it, cos it's not four-colour and has labels in Cyrillic, is a jpg not an svg. Perhaps unfortunately it got deleted as unused. I'd need to ask an admin to dredge from about 2009 onwards. Users working on it would have been mostly me and perhaps occasionally the missus, no longer editing at Wikipedia for many a year due to very harsh and undeserved comments after excellent translations of English articles about the Tudors into HU:WP (something she is an expert in, more than I know and I'm bloody English): Her username was/is User:Monkap. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, the map you included wrongfooted me, this is exactly the map that is nominated (duh!) I was looking at the map you included on the right. No, don't give up on it, I'll try to fix it. It is nearly OK, all the coords and borders and counties etc are done on separate labels and I think it is much better than the boring brown map transcluded via {{Infobox Hungarian settlement}}. We just need to fix the edges and fix the text-label layer for some reason the font doesn't scale properly, I never did work out why, I shall try again. One reason to separate into different layers in a good GIS fashion is so that with a flick of the wrist one can turn off all the labels, turn off e.g. the county borders, make all the counties brown and just fill one particular county in a different colour (for Hungarian county articles) etc etc etc. I hand-edited the XML for the SVG to make it all nice, it's much much nicer than its predecessor for putting into a GIS etc because each county edge and county border and county name etc is labeleed in a very consistent fashion. The underlying SVG is File:Kingdom_of_Hungary_counties-2.svg. The polygons for the borders go actually in a kinda "cogwheel" order so that some going anticlockwise have their boundaries against the others going clockwise, rather in a toothed gearwheel manner, but that was just my pedantry; each county actually has its own borders as it did on the original, but on the original the borders for e.g Budapest to Pest County were a bit different from the borders of Pest County to Budapest, i.e. there was a gap or overlap, which now there is not in "my" version, they have all the coordinates bang on, as I did them all in hand in the XML not with some "snap it roughly to where it looks right" tool. All the bordering points have the same coords but the opposite directions (clockwise or widdershins) which helps the SVG polygon fill get it right without overlap or gap.
I think we should keep it and try to fix the labels and the "fix" coordinates for it. I suppose this was a labour of love but I think it does make it better than what is used in the infobox, it scales except for the text labels and the old one has errors in the border coords that leave gaps or overlaps, it just doesn't seem so at the scale used in infoboxes, as the rendering of the borders and the pushpins for the places are far larger than the errors, at even a large-screen resolution scale. If you blow it up and print it onto A0 (paper size) is is noticeable. Si Trew (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The text labels are fine on my I think 1972 across screen in full view. When I made this I think I had a 1024x768 screen. It's when the labels are all squished they don't scale down properly, and get all scrunched up, I have never quite worked out why. There is a style that governs it, and I tried all sorts of things but none worked. Si Trew (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Needs help[edit]

I like charts, mostly pie but also bar, and I really like shades of grey best - for normal purposes physically printing is just black‑and‑white (and shades of grey). But this really allow only ten shades of grey. I would like just a few options to make up to 15-ish. I think to extend to texture would do the trick. And I see that these days CSS background‑image can be specified. These are lots of different things can be made, but for use here I would just what two textures, and just left top to right bottom or the other way, and narrow chevron or wider.

left right
It be easiest to make just one colour :

So Frietjes, I won't if you could help. I want to enhance module:chart (bar and pie). The module have been written by the user-with-a-Hebrew-name, (name is קיפודנחש), s/he doesn't seem to be online very often. It seems easy enough, but the module code is a closed book as far as I can see. Do you be able to help?

Just all one or two colours, with direction 'left' or 'right', and 'thin' or 'thick'. I know this OK with IE, I don't know any browser.

Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 08:02, wikitime= 00:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

User:Unbuttered Parsnip, yes, the author is probably kipod (see history and talk for module:chessboard). we have interacted before, extremely nice and helpful editor. I can take a look, but probably not for a week due to backlog. Frietjes (talk) 00:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Frietjes (talk) I'll be going on holiday for three weeks, so I won't look into it until new year. I don't think anything difficult, just background‑image:repeating-linear-gradient by CSS. I just need it into module:Chart – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Wed 05:09, wikitime= 21:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


Dear user, I saw that you contributed in Template:Photomontage and Module:Photo montage, so I got a question: is it possible to make this Template automatically adjust the heigh of images by cropping the highest to the level of lowest one? I primaly use this template to make rich city-related collages. This template tries to render all images with equal width of all images in row. Sometimes aspect ratio of different images is not the same and as a Result I got an empty space around the lower image which makes the whole collage not so attractive as it could be.--Orange-kun (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Huanchaco.jpg IndependenciaPlazaDeTrujillo.jpg Pont Triana.jpg

That's what I mean. --Orange-kun (talk) 19:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Single wing[edit]

Single Wing Formation.svg

Hi there Frietjes (Freet-yes?), thanks for your recent edits on the All-Southern teams. Are you the code wizard able to help me fix the single wing diagrams? If so, I could feel good about nominating 1921 Centre, 1925 Alabama, 1926 Alabama, &c for GA. How can I move the row containing QB and RHB over one space to the right, like the picture at right?

Cheers. Cake (talk) 13:25, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Cake, vertical-align:top usually helps keep things aligned within the row. are you asking for less of a vertical gap between the rows, or for the LHB to be further up? Frietjes (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm asking for the "QB" and "RHB" cells - the second horizontal row, to move over a unit to the right. Like the picture. Never could figure it out. Cake (talk) 01:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Cake, there are other ways to do it (for example, this hack), but the modified version above is probably the most robust. another option would be doing something like {{football squad on pitch}}. Frietjes (talk) 21:55, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
would it be useful to merge this with Template:CFB Team Depth Chart or make a new template for this formation? Frietjes (talk) 22:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Well I didn't need to move the fullback at all, but you did manage to get the wingback (RHB) to work, which I found so difficult, and thank you. I didn't know there was a template either - cool. I've managed to sufficiently mimic the short punt (say here) and the T (say here) and the jump shift (say here). Other articles already had the I (say here). Cake (talk) 03:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Note the similarity to the picture with my minor change. Well done. Cake (talk) 03:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Long way to say yes, I think it would help to have these as options just like pro-set or I on that template. Need to try my hand at making a 7-2-2 defense. Also, apparently switching the spot of the QB with the LHB or TB was common, but as we have it above was even more common. Cake (talk)

Update to Template:CFB Yearly Record - follow up[edit]

Are you planning on making the changes to the template that you mentioned in WP CFB? Is there anything I can do? I don't think I would even know how to help but I guess you can let me know. Kobra98 (talk) 21:01, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Kobra98, the first step is probably to fix all the entries in Category:Pages using CFB Yearly Record End with bcs to use |bowl=no instead of |bcs=no, since the parameter is for suppressing the bowls footnote. after that, the question is what syntax do we want for suppressing parts of that footnote?
Option 1) |bc=no to suppress bowl coalition, |ba=no to suppress bowl alliance, |bcs=no to suppress BCS, and |cfp=no to suppress CFP.
Option 2) |bowls=bcs / ba to show bcs and bowl alliance, but suppress bowl coalition and CFP
Option 3) |yearstart= / |yearend= and then automatically suppress based on the start and end years.
as far as programming goes, option 1 and 3 are the easiest. I personally like option 3 if we have start/end years for each bowl type. Frietjes (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Frietjes, do these entries need to be changed manually or is there a faster way? Also I still agree the third option is the best option. Kobra98 (talk) 21:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Kobra98, for the first part, changing all the |bcs=no to |bowls=no, I can get a bot to do it. for the second part, it may be possible to have a bot analyse the text above the footer to determine the year range, but I would think it would be safer to just have a human do that part. but, we can cross that bridge later. Frietjes (talk) 22:56, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Oh yeah I wasn't even thinking about a bot adding in the year range, but I'm glad you can get a bot to do the first part. I could do a lot of the work for the second part. Kobra98 (talk) 23:06, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Kobra98, do you have date ranges for the four different bowl types? Frietjes (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Bowl coalition was 1992-94, Bowl Alliance was 1995-97, BCS was 1998-2013, and CFP is 2014-present. Kobra98 (talk) 21:41, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Kobra98, this should work now. use |yearstart= for the starting year, and |yearend= for the ending year. if |bowl=no or |bowls=no, then the footnote is suppressed. otherwise, if |yearstart=a number, then it should selectively omit bowls from the note based on the value. the values are further restricted if |yearend=a number, otherwise it assumes that the coach is still active. you can see some sample output in the tests listed in Template:CFB Yearly Record End/footnotes. note that without |yearstart=, the template operates exactly as before, so no rush to update any articles. let me know if you need me to tweak the year ranges, (e.g., less-than-or-equal-to vs less-than). Frietjes (talk) 14:04, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Awesome, that works great! Thanks a lot! Kobra98 (talk) 15:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors![edit]

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Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


Frietjes... I need help! lol We're trying to make Template:Infobox marching band have the uniform section like Template:Infobox NCAA football school. I've got the header set, I just can't seem to get the uniform to display. What do I need to do? I'm still learning on this tech stuff. Thanks! Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 00:54, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan: I believe I fixed it for you. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:12, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Sure did. You're awesome Plastikspork, thank you! Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 02:03, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Canadian federal election[edit]

Was going to revert User:Charles lindberg edits like this {more)....but then was thinking how many others don't get it. Can we dumb these down? Add a note or something. --Moxy (talk) 13:55, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Moxy, add a note would be easier than changing the SVG images. Frietjes (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for template help[edit]

Hi, Frietjes! Thanks for answering my question here about the song track templates. And thanks for adding "noinclude" to the four templates; that did remove the transcluded deletion notice from the article talk pages. I wasn't the one who nominated these templates for deletion; I rarely mess with templates. I was just the one who discovered all those song articles incorrectly listed in a speedy deletion category. And the funny thing is, they are all still listed there! See Category:Speedy deletion candidates with talk pages. I can't find any mention or citation of the templates on the article pages. Should I strip out all the titles from the templates, will that fix it? Or should I just ignore the false category listings, assuming they will go away when the templates are deleted? Sorry to be so clueless, but this just isn't an area I deal with normally. --MelanieN (talk) 14:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

MelanieN, you can remove them from the category by purging the transcluding pages with a null edit. in other words, (1) open the article in edit mode, (2) make no changes, (3) press save. Frietjes (talk) 15:06, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, that works! 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 15:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

{{PH wikidata}} changes[edit]

I see that there has been 25 edits to this in the last few weeks (all by the same editor). Can you just give it the one-over, to see if it still works? Alice 张梦平 08:06, 11 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice Zhang Mengping (talkcontribs)

Alice Zhang Mengping, I don't see any obvious mistakes, and Exec8 is a frequent contributor to PH articles. if you see an actual problem in an article, bring it up on the talk page for the template and ping me. Frietjes (talk) 13:32, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Niagara Square[edit]

Just fixed an invisible error in Niagara Square by adding a map name, even though it does not display. Though the error was invisible I could see it in the page source complaining about a missing name. But looking at the source I could not see why it was generating an error, nor why adding the map fixes it but does not display the map, as it should. Hoping you could look at it, as the last person to edit the article before me and the template,--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 09:53, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

JohnBlackburne, fixed it here. looks like I accidentally removed the pipe here. Frietjes (talk) 13:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

User space?[edit]

Your bot seems to be operating on draft user space pages that are still under construction. Praemonitus (talk) 01:19, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Praemonitus, I don't have a bot. Frietjes (talk) 11:25, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Mmm, okay. Then I'm left wondering why you're editing my draft page? I work there so only I will be changing it. It's not a big deal; just wondering what brought you there. Praemonitus (talk) 14:35, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Praemonitus, did you click on the link in my edit summary? Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes I did. The thing is I was already aware of the issue and I was going to fix it. *shrug* It shows up in the error list while in edit mode. Praemonitus (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Module:Sorted plain list (again!)[edit]

I was reading the latest changes to this yesterday. But now I can't find it. Never mind, I'll work without it.

  1. The problem now is Central Visayas (Q13669) contains administrative territorial entity (P150) has six elements. One of them is "[[Lapu-Lapu, Philippines|Lapu-Lapu]]". It seems that the propertyID is not right, and in any case, how can I find about it?
  2. In another problems with that dataset, is that there are mixed data - some of elements are provinces, others are cities (we can also mixed into huc and icc)(and also cc for completeness but not needed here). Would it be a good idea to add qualifiers? And the next question, would it be possible to change css on the way through? (talk) 09:46, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
so the problem is that "contains administrative territorial entity" includes both independent cities and provinces? obviously, if the WikiData entry doesn't distinguish between the two, there is no way for the template/module to distinguish between the two. there is contains settlement (P1383) so, in theory, one could use P1383 for independent cities and P150 for provinces. I have no idea what you mean by "change css on the way through" since there is no CSS in the wikidata. Frietjes (talk) 13:03, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox noble[edit]

Hi Frietjes. I compared the order of the different parts of this template to other templates here on Wikipedia and realized that unlike so many other info boxes "Birth", "Death" and "Burial" don't come first. Usually a person's date of birth, death and burial are the first things that can be seen in an info box, so I don't know why this one should be an exception. I tried to fix it myself but then I thought it would be wiser to ask a template editor to do it. Keivan.fTalk 08:18, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Keivan.f, I would suggest starting a discussion on the talk page of {{infobox noble}} and {{infobox royalty}} (the template after which the noble template was patterned). another very widely used template with the personal information at the bottom is {{infobox officeholder}}. Frietjes (talk) 12:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
I understand what you're trying to say, but if you pay attention to the structure of those two templates ({{infobox officeholder}} and {{infobox royalty}}) you'll see that personal details come after "office" and "succession". There's also a part in {{infobox noble}} titled "succession" that comes first, and I think it's OK because my problem is with the order of personal details as I believe just like {{infobox officeholder}} and {{infobox royalty}} "Birth", "Death" and "Burial" should be the first three parts in that section. Anyway, do I have to start an discussion on the talk page of {{infobox noble}} in order to make these changes happen? Keivan.fTalk 12:20, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Keivan.f, yes, you need consensus unless you want the change to be immediately reverted. Frietjes (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Per your instructions I left a note on Template talk:Infobox royalty regarding the issue that I mentioned above. It's been almost 4 days, and despite my expectations no one has engaged in the discussion yet. You told me that I couldn't change the order of parameters on that template as without a consensus my edits would be reverted. Now no one has neither supported nor opposed the suggested changes. May I ask what needs to be done right now? Keivan.fTalk 02:32, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Keivan.f, I would suggest making a change in the sandbox like this for which ever template you want to change. then suggest the change on the talk page for the respective template. when you do so, ping me with the {{ping}} or {{U}} templates. I will have a look and make the change if it doesn't break anything. Frietjes (talk) 13:33, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

NCAA color cell[edit]

Frietjes, I've noticed you've been changing the {{CollegePrimaryStyle}} templates to {{NCAA color cell}} templates in NCAA rivalry articles... I was wondering if this is only for rivalry articles or what the game plan for this is? Thanks, Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 16:44, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Corkythehornetfan, the advantage of using {{NCAA color cell}} in the rivalry series table is that you don't have to specify the font color or say border=0. the {{NCAA color cell}} automatically selects the font color (so you don't have to figure out which one has greater contrast), and uses no border by default. for the secondary color, there is {{NCAA secondary color cell}}. it's really a low priority, but we should consider using {{NCAA color cell}} in cases where (1) we want no border, and (2) we want either white/black font color. so, clearly this is not all the cases where {{CollegePrimaryStyle}} is being used, but the rivalry series tables are one place where this is (usually) the case. Frietjes (talk) 16:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I had figured it automatically configured the font color, and it looks much simpler! I'm thinking this one needs to stay out of the navboxes (I know there is a few schools with no borders)... it will just cause a mess. What other articles would this be used in? Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 17:32, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Corkythehornetfan, I don't know of any other obvious places where we would use {{NCAA color cell}}, but there may be others. for table headers, I suggest {{CollegePrimaryHeader}} to avoid the repeated calls to the same {{CollegePrimaryStyle}} template. Frietjes (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2017 (UTC)


Hi User:Frietjes, just a question of interest (I probably won't be able to add this anywhere), do you know why a lot of single and album covers in 2017 have the main image in a box inside a white/black background? It seems to have started with hip hop songs.

Some examples: The Life of Pablo, Places (song), Slide (Calvin Harris song), Stay (Zedd and Alessia Cara song), No Frauds, More Life, No Promises (Cheat Codes song), The Cure (song), Despacito (Remix), Bon Appétit (song) and For Crying Out Loud (album).--Theo Mandela (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Theo Mandela, are you asking why the image is at the top of the infobox? you should probably ask at template talk:Infobox album, template talk:Infobox song or Template talk:Infobox single. Frietjes (talk) 12:24, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
No, the cover art itself, if you know the reason behind it?--Theo Mandela (talk) 18:55, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
no, I don't know why artists choose specific designs for album art. Frietjes (talk) 13:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Infobox civil conflict[edit]

Please join the discussion, so we can discuss our recent editing disagreement. Grapesoda22 () 04:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Infobox on Moe Ankney[edit]

Frietjes, something strange is going on with the Infobox college coach at Moe Ankney. When you have a chance, can you take a look? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 14:11, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Jweiss11, should be fixed now. the changes to module:infobox have been reverted for now until there can be more testing. Frietjes (talk) 14:15, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Infobox Berg and Infobox Gebirgsgruppe coordinates conversion[edit]

If you have time and the inclination, could you please take a look at what is needed to migrate {{Infobox Berg}} and {{Infobox Gebirgsgruppe}} to the standard coordinates parameters? They are substitution templates beyond my current ability to modify easily. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:06, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Jonesey95, should work now. let me know if you see any problems. Frietjes (talk) 16:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:51, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Split Template:Politics sidebar title?[edit]

Hey, thanks again for catching the mistakes on Module:Sidebar, I completely missed them in testing.

I was wondering if splitting Template:Politics sidebar title into three parts makes sense at all? That way, the templates wouldn't have to open and close their own <tr><td> tags. The parameters wouldn't change, so a bot could probably handle it, for instance:

{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
| title = {{Politics sidebar title |country=The Gambia |image=Coat of arms of The Gambia.svg |size=170px |title=the Gambia}}


{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
| title = {{Politics sidebar title |country=The Gambia}}

| topimage = {{Politics sidebar image |image=Coat of arms of The Gambia.svg |size=170px}}

| topcaption = {{Politics sidebar caption |title=the Gambia}}

Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 03:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Matt Fitzpatrick, that template was created for this purpose. in other words, to replace the old {{politics box}} system. the structure of the headers is (1) the linked name of the country with microformats, (2) an image, (3) the pretitle, and (4) the title. currently, sidebar has (1) pretitle, (2) title, and (3) above. so, we are missing one. one method for mapping is this one that I tried earlier on. in your suggested solution, {{politics sidebar title}} would be nearly pointless (link + microformat), but it would just add the microformat, and {{politics sidebar image}} would be redundant to simple image markup. the final template {{politics sidebar caption}} would be the only one that would do anything significant. so, if you want to go that route, I would suggest,
{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
| title = {{Politics sidebar title |country=The Gambia}}
| image = [[File:Coat of arms of The Gambia.svg|170px]]
| above = {{Politics sidebar caption |title=the Gambia}}
or, another option would be to create a LUA wrapper for Module:sidebar so that you could write
{{Sidebar region politics
|collapsiblelists = yes
|country=The Gambia 
|image=Coat of arms of The Gambia.svg 
|title=the Gambia
for another example of a wrapper module, see "Module:Team roster navbox". Frietjes (talk) 12:29, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Module Team roster navbox[edit]

Regarding this change: I'm unclear regarding what you have introduced regarding the colour of the links. Can you provide examples that illustrate what has changed? I'm a bit concerned about trying to set the colours automatically in some fashion: will it affect existing uses of the Team roster navbox template? If so it would be an unexpected change, plus it might pose accessibility issues. isaacl (talk) 13:18, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

isaacl, see Template:New York Giants coach navbox for example. if there is a contrast issue, with the titlestyle, for example, then that contrast issue exists with the navbar v-t-e and show/hide links. do you see a problem? Frietjes (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with the styles in question; which parts of the navbox are your changes affecting? I guess the intent is to alter the colours of the link text to match the style of the enclosing cells? If so, then would this also be a change that the general navbox template could benefit from? isaacl (talk) 13:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
isaacl, yes, the change makes it so this works, which reduces the amount of code in the transcluding template. and, yes, I plan to propose adding this as an option to {{navbox}}. we recently had |nowrapitems=yes added, which basically made this module redundant until I added new functionality to it. please let me know if you see any problems. Frietjes (talk) 13:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I was expecting to see this module and the corresponding template go away, which is why I was surprised to see new functionality being added. Thanks for your explanation; I will keep an eye out for any issues. Hopefully the navbox template can be updated faster than it took to add nowrapitems! isaacl (talk) 13:40, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
isaacl, yes, I hope so too. I will let you know when I start a thread at template talk:navbox. I want to make sure there are no unexpected problems before I do. Frietjes (talk) 13:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:German coord convert[edit]

Hi Frietjes, this is great news! However, I've just imported Wechsel (mountain) and am still getting error messages. What am I doing wrong? --Bermicourt (talk) 18:23, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Bermicourt, the code was not expecting two ISO regions. I will work on fixing that case. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 13:46, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Ooopps, sorry Frietjes! --Bermicourt (talk) 17:04, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Bermicourt, no problem, it seems common so I added some code to split those into two region identifiers. you will want to consolidate them after conversion. Frietjes (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of[edit]

Ambox warning has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 04:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Da Vinci Barnstar Award![edit]

Vitruvian Barnstar.png The da Vinci Barnstar
for your outstanding work in developing a technical template to convert coordinates from German to English Wiki format; something which has caused problems for years and will now save thousands of nugatory editor hours. Well done and thank you! Bermicourt (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Coordinates question[edit]

Are we no longer using detailed coordinate strings? For the Division of Paterson, {{Infobox Australian Electorate}} automatically generates {{coord|32|24|25|S|151|55|5|E|type:adm1st_region:AU-NSW|display=inline, title}} but your edit today replaced that with just {{coord|32|24|25|S|151|55|5|E|display=inline, title}}. --AussieLegend () 08:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

AussieLegend, if you omit the 'type' and 'region' information, it is added by the infobox through the 'coordinsert' function in the coordinates module. you can verify this by hovering over the coordinates and inspecting the URL. however, you are certainly free to add the 'type' and 'region' information manually. if you do so, the 'coordinsert' function will not override what you specify. for some more information, see Module:Coordinates. Frietjes (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. That clears things up. --AussieLegend () 13:20, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Fußballspieler[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Infobox Fußballspieler has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 22:56, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Geobox coor[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Geobox coor has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:04, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I also nominated the module for deletion on the same page. I am assuming that this was the plan. They are no longer transcluded in article space. If I am making a mistake, object at the TfD page and I will withdraw the nominations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Category:Pages using infobox airport with historic coordinate parameters has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Pages using infobox airport with historic coordinate parameters, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:10, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Bold dark red[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Bold dark red has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nardog (talk) 15:14, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

NFL colors[edit]

Frietjes, would it be possible to get the Template:Infobox NFL team to be like the college navboxes and use automatic contrast in it? The one article I noticed that is far from being compliant with contrast is the Cleveland Browns article. The Brown and orange do not go well together! Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 23:02, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Odd image sizing behavior in Infobox Mountain[edit]

I spent some time digging through the behavior of the size parameters for both the photo and the map_image (which you just added). It's a little odd. If an editor specifies an image size in px, then it will be capped at 280px. However, the default is |upright=1.25, so you can easily get images larger than 280px. For example, my preferred thumbsize is 250px, so I get maps and images with width=310px

Not that it's wrong -- it's just a little strange. I wonder if editors should be able to specify the |upright= size? —hike395 (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

hike395, sure. a quick search shows that Template:Infobox person, Template:Infobox musical artist, Template:Infobox military operation, Template:Infobox museum, Template:Infobox artwork, Template:Infobox television season, Template:Infobox television, Template:Infobox World Heritage Site, ... and many others allow the upright value to be set. unfortunately, Template:Location map requires the pixel width. so no matter what you do there is no way to enforce consistency between a pushpin location map and a static image. that is unless there is some way to read the user's thumb preferences. Frietjes (talk) 13:05, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I think we could hack Module:Location map to take |upright= like Module:InfoboxImage does, but that is beyond my skills at Lua. —hike395 (talk) 15:34, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Editing of mountain articles?[edit]

If I understand what you're doing, you're removing the following parameters being fed to {{Infobox mountain}}: |flag=, |landmark=, |remarks=, |river=, |rock=, and |timezone=? That's great! When I converted thousands of articles over from {{Geobox}} to {{Infobox mountain range}}, I purposefully left out (IMO) inappropriate parameters in the newer infobox, but never removed them from the articles. Thanks for doing this! —hike395 (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

hike395, that's the general plan. I don't plan to remove |rock= since that should be replaced by |geology=. as for |timezone=, |river=, and |landmark=, I was planning to have a discussion on the talk page before removing. as for |remarks=, those can frequently be replaced by |listing=, so I don't plan to remove all of them. Frietjes (talk) 15:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, it's been 5 years since I converted to {{Infobox mountain range}}, and no one has complained about the lack of |timezone=, |river=, or |landmark=. I suspect we can simply remove them. —hike395 (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Infobox country[edit]

I noted that your solution still leaves the images left-justified when the |flag_width= parameter is used. I removed the if function from the |width1= parameter in the sandbox and set |width1=58%, which fixes that problem – see Template:Infobox country/testcases#China, where |flag_width= is used and set to 150px. How badly does the template need that if function?  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  22:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

User:Paine Ellsworth, that seems like the best idea. the {{infobox settlement}} template doesn't try to match the widths of the table cells in the flag/symbol table. Frietjes (talk) 13:12, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Again, thank you very much, Frietjes!  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  16:06, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


I'm not sure whether the UNESCO world heritage information should be included in the infobox in Drakensberg. We have an article at Maloti-Drakensberg Park that is specifically related to the area that is covered by the WHS. Should we also repeat that information in the more general article? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:37, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Mike Peel, feel free to remove it. I was just fixing the "unknown parameters error" from using unknown parameters with {{infobox mountain}}. Frietjes (talk) 12:29, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
OK, I've now removed it. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)


Editors Barnstar.png The Editor's Barnstar
for helping in nomination of unused templates at TFD Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:08, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

template South African Town[edit]

You were so quick to help at Airport template, I thought I'd ask about another one. I posted over at Template talk:Infobox South African town#Problem with Cape Town maps but I'm not sure anyone is watching. This template creates a pushpin map in the normal way, then for three "municipalities" it adds an extra local map. (-- Wedge secondary map in box after pushpin map --). The problem is that many of the towns in these municipalities aren't within the maps used, and mark points are shown outside the map (sometimes in the prose or elsewhere in the infobox). Ideally, maps of a larger area might solve this, but I don't believe they currently exist. Do you know if it is possible to check if the map used (e.g. Cape Town) with the given coordinates creates a map location error, and if so, just skip the display of the municipality map. That's the best solution I can think of, it's its feasible. Thanks MB 01:03, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I responded there. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Location Map Error category[edit]

Hello again. I've been fixing articles in Category:Location maps with possible errors and was wondering about a change to the Module. I've fixed over 100 articles, and there are almost 300 still with errors. However, about half of these are in User space and don't need "fixing" because they aren't part of the encyclopedia. Is it possible to put these into two different sub-categories based on article type (i.e. "User space" and "everything else", or perhaps "article space" and "everything else"). This would give me one list to work on. Obviously I can work with it the way it is, so this isn't worth much effort. But if it is easy I would find it a nice enhancement. I wouldn't think this is controversial, but if you think I should post on the module talk page first, or if you think it's not worth the effort just let me know. Thanks again. MB 01:20, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Yet more tweaks need for Module:Sorted plain list[edit]

1 I would like to extend the use in wikidata. Because of its nature, that can be several Qs within a single P (i.e. P150) and we only want one at a time. See Ho Chi Minh City (Q1854) contains administrative territorial entity (P150) – and use only urban districts of Ho Chi Minh City (Q31495383). Is it possible to improve Module:Sorted plain list easily?
2 Is it possible to sort right – Division 1, Division 2, Division 3 … Division 10, Division 11, Division 12 and not Division 1, Division 10, Division 11, Division 12 … Division 8, Division 9 etc. (talk) 18:32, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

not easy to do this in all cases, but {{#invoke:Sorted plain list|descd|Division 1, Division 2, Division 3, Division 10, Division 11}} appears to be sorting now. Frietjes (talk) 19:49, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
@Frietjes: Now there is a new change problem – for instance Talisay, Cebu. Now the barangays are shown as plain items only, followed by wikilink items only.-- (talk) 11:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
probably fixed now. Frietjes (talk) 13:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox rugby league biography[edit]

I was wondering if there was anything that the changes that you made to Template:Infobox rugby league biography would have affected chrome only. I have an editor that has an issue in chrome only with years distorted when we have a team name that is only 19 characters long. I would look into this myself, but I lack the necessary skills and the access.Fleets (talk) 07:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Can you add something?[edit]

Having a problem with Ho Chi Minh City / template:VN wikidata and Ssbbplayer. I'm ready to add Wikipedia:AN/EW

Have anything to add?

Alice 张梦平 07:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice Zhang Mengping (talkcontribs)


Hi, Frietjes. I was wondering about your italicizing BBC and Creative Planet Network at Carol (film). Networks aren't italicized, and, indeed, BBC is not italicized in prose at this very article. Thank you for any help or information on this. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:18, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I am removing pages from Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. I suggest you use "show preview" before saving. also, there is a difference between BBC (an organisation) and "BBC Culture" (a series). I really don't care if you want to use the |series= parameter instead of the |work= parameter. but using |publisher= twice in the same citation is pointless and adds pages to Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. Frietjes (talk) 17:23, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Overhaul of music infoboxes[edit]

Was Module:Parse chronology supposed to be for {{Infobox single}}? If it's not being used (since I made the wrapper with Module:String for some reason) it would be nice if I could repurpose the title to be used for additional find-and-replace in the infoboxes (such as to detect "(acoustic)" or "(EP)" at the end of strings), since other titles might be too vague. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me
14:31, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Jc86035, originally, yes it was meant to simplify all the string processing, but I abandoned it since you seemed to have everything under control. please feel free to repurpose it, or I can have it deleted. Frietjes (talk) 14:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me
15:08, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Coords in German river articles[edit]

Hi Frietjes, The German coord convert template doesn't seem to be working for river articles e.g. Fischbach (Eschach). Am I doing something wrong? --Bermicourt (talk) 13:21, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

should work now. there were a couple problems, (1) template:Infobox Fluss wasn't using Template:German coord convert, and (2) there was a typo in the O->E translation (using lat instead of lon). let me know if you see any other places where it's not working. Frietjes (talk) 13:55, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

List of councils (Boy Scouts of America)[edit]

There's an extra }} somehow-can you help me find out why?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Fixed by Hike395. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:06, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Attention editors box[edit]

How did they get the wonderful "Attention editors" box in Unreliable narrator, and is it possible to get one for List of Scouts?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Kintetsubuffalo, if you look at the upper right corner of the edit notice box you will see the "page notice" link. if you click on that it takes you to Template:Editnotices/Page/Unreliable narrator. to create a new edit notice, you should follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Editnotice. Frietjes (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:4 (Beyoncé album) track listing[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Template:4 (Beyoncé album) track listing, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for Deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discusion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. —IB [ Poke ] 08:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Beyoncé (album) track listing[edit]

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You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Template:Beyoncé (album) track listing, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for Deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discusion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. —IB [ Poke ] 08:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Album tracklist templates[edit]

Frietjes, may I know why you recreated the previous templates although they had been deleted through TFD? You yourself had commented for delete in one of them don't you remember? It was a long standing consensus that these templates are redundant in place of the {{Beyoncé songs}} template. —IB [ Poke ] 08:41, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

IndianBio, since I cannot see the template history, I cannot comment on your allegations. Frietjes (talk) 13:10, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Frietjes, but you had commented for deletion of these templates in all the nominations. Did you forget them? I am not accusing you of anything, I'm just curious why. —IB [ Poke ] 13:12, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
IndianBio, again, since the edit history has been deleted, I cannot comment on your allegations. Frietjes (talk) 13:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
it appears as though the track listing was added here and I simply moved it to a template since was being used in more than one article. which is probably mentioned in the deleted edit summary. Frietjes (talk) 13:18, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Frietjes, when you tried to create the template didn't it show that it was previously deleted? It always shows for me for a redlink so that should have cautioned. —IB [ Poke ] 13:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


Hi! You removed the color scheme from the template saying "make this easier to read". I added the colors on similarity with Coke Studio (Pakistan)'s latest logo, but now I request you to only restore red, white and black colors (not golden) in the navbox as similar to Template:Coca-Cola. Default blue color doesn't match with show logo, and don't look good for it. Hope for your kind response, Thanks! M. Billoo 16:59, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Thoroughbred fatalities[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Thoroughbred fatalities has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Montanabw(talk) 18:16, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Module template colors[edit]

Hello, I have a problem with the colors of team templates. In particular it can be seen in the roster templates at the bottom of the Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball and Fenerbahçe Men's Volleyball articles. The season numerals and the word roster appear in a different tone of yellow, even though the basesytle is defined with the color #FFED00. Do you know what the problem is and can help me? Thank you in advance. Akocsg (talk) 11:26, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Akocsg, I don't see any problem, did you fix it with this edit? Frietjes (talk) 13:16, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
It doesn't seem so. Isn't the "2016-17 roster" part in another tone of yellow as the rest? I'm almost sure it is. I know that basketball teams colors are defined in an extra module, so the templates get their colors from there. Is it the same for volleyball teams? Because the edit doesn't seem to change the color of that part. Akocsg (talk) 14:32, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Akocsg, the colors look uniform to me. which browser are you using? I am not aware of any color template/module for volleyball. I know about the basketball, baseball, college sports color templates, but not volleyball. Frietjes (talk) 14:35, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
That's odd. I use Firefox. Either there is something we don't know or my eyes are playing me a trick. But the color of the "2016-17 roster" part really does look like a different yellow to me. Akocsg (talk) 14:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball 2016-17 roster
Akocsg, if the example above has the same problem, then I would suggest posting a thread at WP:VPT. but, I just used gimp to do a screen capture, and then used the color selector tool in gimp to probe the two colors, the result was that the two colors are identical. however, it could be that there is a slight difference in the "boldness" which may be causing the illusion of different colors. the example above is probably the simplest example that demonstrates what is going on. Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball 2016-17 roster
Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball 2016-17 roster
Fenerbahçe Women's Volleyball 2016-17 roster
Akocsg, the example above shows three different permutations. all three look the same to me. given that the last one uses the same rendering for all the text, my guess it that there is some optical illusion (assuming you still see a problem there). Frietjes (talk) 14:48, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Wow, that's odd. So it's really my eyes then. Anyway, thank you very much for your effort. It really must be an illusion then. Kind regards Akocsg (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Requested templates#Template:TwoLegEnd[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requested templates#Template:TwoLegEnd. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:33, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Tennis events - date option[edit]

If I recall you do well with Lua and I wanted an option added to the template "Tennis events." If you see the article 2017 Bank of the West Classic – Singles the infobox does not have a date option for the final. I tried date= and was shocked to find out it wasn't even an option and won't show up. I wouldn't want it mandatory because some older events we simply don't know the date of the final. But for the last 10 years it's usually easy enough to dig up. I think it would be best right at the top as in this image I created at at imgur, and needs to works for men/women/singles/doubles. This is probably child's play easy for you but not for me. Thanks. I had posted this at the Tennis project page also. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:27, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Fyunck(click), should work now. Frietjes (talk) 13:07, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I assume that with your LUA knowledge this was an easy fix and didn't take too much time? Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Fyunck(click), yes, although it was standard parser-function / template syntax in this case. I have scripts that assist with inserting new parameters in infoboxes, doing all the label/data renumbering. the whole process didn't take more than about 30 seconds. Frietjes (talk) 19:26, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:MLR line[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:MLR line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gareth (talk) 03:16, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:Bronze Age[edit]

At the top there's an unwikilike "This box: Edit view..." Can this be reduced to the standard VTE, or removed entirely? Thanks--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:23, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

should be better now. I will look at converting it to use the sidebar template at some point. Frietjes (talk) 12:50, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox institute[edit]

Template:Infobox institute has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox organization. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 03:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Templates of NCAA Season 92 main & volleyball[edit]

Hi Frietjes, you just basically copied and paste the existing information and then rfd the templates? The templates were created so as to avoid "double" work in updating the data in both articles (NCAA Season 92 and NCAA Season 92 volleyball tournaments) during the season. And, I do agree with the deletion of the unused templates. – Rick (talk) 00:44, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Rickt11, you can use WP:LST for sharing information between articles, which was the conclusion of the July 31 discussion. for an example search for "#section" in the source for NCAA Season 92 and you will find that information from both NCAA Season 92 basketball tournaments and NCAA Season 92 volleyball tournaments is being transcluded in NCAA Season 92 using WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:Greg Berlanti[edit]

Re this, okay, I see the point, but you should have put a reference to that discussion in the edit summary. That's what they're for. —Joeyconnick (talk) 20:01, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

British Somaliland[edit]

There is currently a dispute on which are the successor states to the former entity. Because you have edited country templates I decided to contact you. (talk) 20:54, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Wrong patents?[edit]

Please see Talk:SA3 coupler#Wrong patents. Peter Horn User talk 01:42, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


Hi Frietjes, is this template able to be substituted like the infobox ones? It's currently been nominated for deletion here but is widely used on German Wiki and we want to be able to import it "as is" and then have it substituted. --Bermicourt (talk) 18:34, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

NFL color templates[edit]

Frietjes, would it be possible to fix the automatic borders for the NFL color templates (i.e. Template:NFLAltSecondaryColor) like you've done for the Module:Basketball color and Module:College color modules? I don't know/can't find the place to fix it for the NFL colors. Thanks, Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 02:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)