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Hello Froid, and welcome to Wikipedia! Here are some recommended guidelines to help you get involved. Please feel free to contact me if you need help with anything. Best of luck and happy editing! Alphachimpbot 12:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added to the page Underground Railroad do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

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In general, blogs are not valid links for Wikipedia. The link you added to Underground Railroad has been removed. -- wrp103 (Bill Pringle) (Talk) 23:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Towaco, New Jersey[edit]

Hello, this message is in regard to one of your recent edits. I reverted this addition because the information contained, and linked to, an address. I do not believe such material is permitted per WP:DOB. Akerans (talk) 18:49, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the courtesy of letting me know, and also for correcting my misstep. Many Wikipedia articles about municipalities (e.g., Freeport, New York) list the names of notable residents. Moreover, the Giudice's home address has been bandied about widely in the news because of that family's bankruptcy proceedings and public notices of an auction to be held there. However, I wholeheartedly respect the Wikipedia policy you alerted me to, which protects the privacy of subjects' home addresses. Therefore, to honor that policy, while at the same time adhering to the aforementioned common pratice of publishing sections such as, "Notable Freeporters", I will post a modified entry supported by a different credible, supporting reference that does not specify the Giudice's actual home address. I hope that will be acceptable.

(The?) Bronx[edit]

Hi Froid, You've wandered into a long-standing/winded ongoing debate about whether the article should be The Bronx or the Bronx. RFC on the talk page going on right now. You're other edits were great, but I think its best if you hold off changing The to the until the debate gets resolved. They may all need to be reverted, because IMHO, The will prevail. Bellagio99 (talk) 01:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

References[edit]

Medical articles on Wikipedia are written based on the best available evidence in a consistent format. A list of resources to help you edit can be found here. The diberri tool will aid formatting the references for us in articles. All one needs to do is cut and paste the results. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions feel free to drop me a note. Cheers Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Self harm. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Jdrewitt (talk) 15:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Self-harm[edit]

Please listen to other people and stop readding the same section. Several usernames have reverted your edits, and one of them may block you for edit warring, even it's in good faith. Go to Talk:Self-harm and discuss with them why it's important to include pop culture references about self-harm. --John KB (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Formatting of disambiguation pages[edit]

Hello. I've reverted your edits to Apple (disambiguation), per WP:MOSDAB. --Mepolypse (talk) 08:52, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

The Willy Wonka Candy Company and Laffy Taffy[edit]

You added sections of "in popular culture" references to these articles, yet both were unsourced and the entries didn't do much to improve an encyclopedic understanding of the articles' subjects, so I removed them. If you want to write about how a subject has been received by the media you should find some reliable sources that discuss the subject's reception and add a summary of this into the article, citing the source as a reference. Just listing everytime the subject has made an appearance in the media is original research and creates a cleanup headache down the line. ThemFromSpace 23:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

January 2011[edit]

Hello, I saw that you have been linking some common words. Please review WP:OVERLINK to see what links are of value. Erik (talk | contribs) 00:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


Perhaps interested[edit]

Hi, you might be interested in checking out this article that I suggested and ErrantX started. Schenecker double murders.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

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Thanks for your recent contributions! -129.49.72.78 (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Touhou Wiki[edit]

Just a heads up, but the touhou wiki has moved to http://touhouwiki.net . More info here: [1] -- Master Bigode (Talk) (Contribs) 20:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Alphabetization on disambiguation pages[edit]

From a glance at your contributions, it appears you may be under the impression that disambiguation pages are supposed to be alphabetized as a rule. They're not. Theoldsparkle (talk) 14:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I came here to give you the same message: please do not alphabetize dab pages. The entries should usually be in order of importance, or in some other topical order (such as by birth year for people with the same name). It would be helpful if you would go through your contribution history and undo every edit where you have alphabetized dab pages.--Srleffler (talk) 03:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Oftentimes the content on the disambiguation pages is RANDOMLY ordered, with no discernible logical or order of importance. In such cases, Wikipedia appears to be unprofessional and sloppy! Such content should be ordered in some discernible, logical fashion, with a schema that is neither tacit nor random. You'll note that the work I did improves rather than detracts from the "dab" pages I edited. Froid 10:41, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes, disambiguation pages are often sloppy and random, but not always. Many have been organized by people in accordance with the MOS's suggested logical criteria, and you appear to make no distinction in those cases, disrupting the logical and sanctioned order of entries in order to apply an order that is, at best, only modestly more usable than randomization. I disagree that your work is an improvement, at least in many cases, and I will feel free to revert such edits (that detract from the page) as long as they contradict the MOS guidelines. Theoldsparkle (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
An example of your alphabetizing a page to make it less logical. Did you really find it so logically incoherent that a) the Substances section was near the top of the page because users who search for "lime" are probably more likely to be looking for the common building material than Limé, a French community of 187 people that isn't even called Lime? and b) that in the Substances section, it makes more sense to list the generic term first, followed by the more specific terms, rather than listing two specific terms and then the generic term and then another specific term? Perhaps you wouldn't be so convinced that alphabetization is the absolute optimum ordering system if you ever bothered to look at what systems were already in use. Theoldsparkle (talk) 14:13, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Your condesending tone is less than professional, uncollegial, and unwarranted. So take a chill pill. If you'll note, the top of the "dab" page includes a contents table/index, which allows users to easily find the contents of interest. You haven't convinced me that my work hasn't improved the pages I've edited. On the other hand, you've done nothing to dispel the impression that many have about the less than favorable temperament of many Wikipedians. Froid 14:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I would probably have used a friendlier tone if I'd been less cynical about the likelihood that you would re-consider your methods (or if you'd acknowledged my comment when I posted it a month ago). You're not a newbie; you've made thousands of edits in the last month alone, most of which seem to be doing the exact same thing. In my experience, people who edit like that tend to pay very little heed to suggestions that they change their patterns, no matter how courteously those suggestions are presented. Your lack of response to two concrete examples of how your editing style is irrational and damaging is strong enough affirmation of me that trying to discuss it with you is pointless. You like to alphabetize pages; you've rationalized in your head that this is a good thing; you're not going to discuss reasons that it may not be a good thing; if I come across a page that you've alphabetized or otherwise edited and I want to re-order it in order to improve it and bring it in line with guidelines, I'll feel free to do that. Theoldsparkle (talk) 14:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Again with the 'tude! Methinks part of your issue is the need to feel validated. Froid 15:08, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Disorder in an encyclopedia, as I stated earlier, is unprofessional and sloppy. So if you choose to order things other than chronologically or alphabetically, it would be good to make explicit what the order is so users can easily find what they're seeking and so the order does NOT appear to be sloppy and random. Froid 15:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
The MOS, as I linked in my original comment, explicitly lays out the guidelines for ordering entries on a page. These guidelines are designed to make the most likely targets -- the topics that have dedicated articles and are most similar to the disambiguated term -- the most visible. Someone who searches for "Lime" is more likely to be searching for a town called Lime than a town called Limé; therefore, we put the town called Lime at the top. Someone who searches for "Lime" is more likely to be looking for a general discussion of the building material referred to as lime than for a specific variant such as hydraulic lime; therefore, we put the generic material at the top. If you disagree, then you should go to the MOS talk page and propose changing the guidelines to advise simply sorting everything alphabetically. (Also, you can continue making contrived remarks attempting to get my goat if you want, but I suggest you aim for something not quite so random. Yeah, my comment that I'm resigned to your ignoring me and continuing to make bad edits and I'll just fix them if I feel like it -- I sure am just begging you to validate me, aren't I? For your own sake I really hope you're not oblivious to the hypocrisy in making remarks like that one as you berate me for being rude and condescending.) Theoldsparkle (talk) 15:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I hope my comments haven't deterred you from participating in Wikipedia. That was not my intention. Theoldsparkle (talk) 00:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent note. Would you please read my post of August 7 on Srleffler's User Talk page (here)? Froid 15:15, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Froid, even if the ordering on a page is random, alphabetization is not appropriate. The guidelines specify how entries on dab pages should be ordered. Your edits do not comply with this specification. Either put pages into the correct order, or leave the ordering alone. Do not arbitrarily alphabetize dab pages.--Srleffler (talk) 17:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Removal of red links from dab pages[edit]

Entries on dab pages are allowed to have two links if the primary one is red. In this case you removed the link to the title of a film (which was a red link). The red link is there because an article may eventually be created on that film. If this seems unlikely, then the whole entry should be deleted. See MOS:DABRL for info on red links on dab pages, and note that MOS:DABENTRY says "Each entry should have exactly one navigable (blue) link" (emphasis mine). An entry can have two links, as long as one of them is nonworking (red). The red link has to be to a viable article title.

Sorry to be raising another issue with you while the previous one is still being discussed. I'm not trying to pick on you. It's just that editors who enjoy doing large numbers of technical clean-up edits (e.g. to dab pages) can do a lot of damage very quickly if they are not aware of all the guidelines.--Srleffler (talk) 05:55, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, do I know you?[edit]

Hi,

Are you also under the name Kaigon sometimes? (other applications)

regards, CK Karcih (talk) 18:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello CK. No, I'm not. Best wishes, Froid. Froid 21:15, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

A little advice[edit]

Hi. Just a reminder: if you're going to be adding information about people's ex-wives and divorces and such, you really should try to cite some sources. See WP:BLP. Thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 03:09, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with My Page[edit]

Hi. I am a student at Clemson University, and for my English class we have an assignment to edit a wikipedia page. I am working on National Outdoor Leadership School's wikipedia page. From the changes that I have made so far, could you give me suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcxc1234 (talkcontribs) 01:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Merge discussion for BOHICA [edit]

Information.svg An article that you have been involved in editing, BOHICA , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Cnilep (talk) 01:11, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Page Six in "See Also" section of Page 6[edit]

Hi there,

I removed your link to Page Six in the "see also" section of Page 6. The "See also" section is normally used for listing related articles likely to be of relevance or interest to the article that precedes it.

The NY Post "Page Six" column/magazine is unrelated (i.e. it only required mentioning to clarify any potential confusion over the similar name), so a disambiguation "hatnote" is more appropriate. (There was already one in the article, so I left it in place).

Hope this helps, Ubcule (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Jon Roberts in Hollywood[edit]

I have reverted your edit adding Jon Roberts as a notable resident of Hollywood, Florida because the article about Jon Roberts has no mention of Hollywood, and the citation you placed on the entry was to an advertisement for his book. Please provide a reliable source for Jon Roberts' residency in Hollywood if you want to add him again. -- Donald Albury 20:19, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Followed Donald Albury's good advice!

July 2012 Study of authors of health-related Wikipedia pages[edit]

Dear Author/Froid

My name is Nuša Farič and I am a Health Psychology MSc student at University College London (UCL). I am currently running a quantitative study entitled Who edits health-related Wikipedia pages and why? I am interested in the editorial experience of people who edit health-related Wikipedia pages. I am interested to learn more about the authors of health-related pages on Wikipedia and what motivations they have for doing so. I am currently contacting the authors of randomly selected articles and I noticed that someone at this address recently edited an article on Methamphetamine. I would like to ask you a few questions about you and your experience of editing the above mentioned article. If you would like more information about the project, please visit my user page (Hydra_Rain) and if interested, please visit my Talk page or e-mail me on nusa.faric.11@ucl.ac.uk. Also, others interested in the study may contact me! If I do not hear back from you I will not contact this account again. Thank you very much in advance. Hydra Rain (talk) 22:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Spoilers in episode lists?[edit]

Hi, I see you've been involved in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television. I have begun a discussion on spoilers in episode lists and would appreciate your input. -- ke4roh (talk) 02:24, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Your help would be appreciated[edit]

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Suicides in bridge articles[edit]

Greetings. While I appreciate the effort and research done on suicides, they are not appropriate for these articles. Copy-cat suicides can happen just to be included in such lists, and we really don't need that. From my point of view, no suicides are significant, except to their family and friends, and no names should be included. If people want to die this way, we can mention that fact, and maybe what's being done to make it harder to do, but going beyond that is not a good idea. My opinion only. - Denimadept (talk) 07:54, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Denimadept - While those names have been publicly documented (e.g., in the citations I provided), publishing them in Wikipedia is an issue I certainly won't press, as I don't want to contribute in any way to encouraging copycats or to glorifying suicides. I agree with you, however, that it's a good idea to mention suicide-prevention efforts. I also think it's important to provide information or links within suicide bridge articles about how painful it is to die by jumping/falling off a bridge, as many news reports (as in the case of Tyler Clementi) merely cite drowning, bruising and blunt injuries (a practice which euphemizes the gory details and does nothing to dissuade potential jumpers). To whit, here's an excerpt and associated citation from Suicide_of_Tyler_Clementi#Suicide: "The medical examiner's autopsy report cites drowning as the cause of death, and notes blunt impact injuries to his torso."[1] In response, I added to the following article to the Tyler Clementi article's External links section: John Koopman, Chronicle Staff Writer (2 November 2005). "No easy death: Suicide by bridge (Part 4 of a 7-part series)". San Francisco Chronicle. Retrieved 29 July 2012.  More than one of |website= and |journal= specified (help) - Froid 10:35, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
There is more discussion in Talk:The Bridge (2006 film). I returned Gene-section googletranslated it from es-wiki, before noticing it has been there earlier; that i find out from redirect of Gene Sprague. I feel Gene-section is important part of the article. Have anyone heard of copycats making their leape same way asking someone to film it?--RicHard-59 (talk) 09:24, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Richard - Regarding your copycats inquiry: I am unaware of any such exact case. However, two somewhat-related instances have been publicized. One (I can't recall where I read about it) is the case of a professional Hollywood stunt man, who jumped from the bridge in connection with a feature film that scripted that action. The other instance, posted at Golden_Gate_Bridge#Suicides, was a really stupid stunt on the part of Windsor High School student Luhe "Otter" Vilagomez, who on March 10, 2011 sought to impress his schoolmates by jumping on a dare. Fortunately, he survived and fared better than most jumpers, including those who've survived.[2][3] Also fortunately, police have recommended imposing criminal charges for that stunt.[2] TO DO LIST: find out what charges were actually imposed and include that info in the article. - Froid 10:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I understand the names are in the cited sources. I'm glad we agree on this. It's one thing for a newspaper to document a death for one day, just after it happened, but given that WP keeps such stuff up for an indefinite time, I'm glad we can agree to leave it out. If people want the details, they're welcome to check the cites. :-/ The more substantial "suicides" section at the GGB article seems appropriate. I'm not a big fan of such, but I don't have to be: it's part of reality and these people didn't ask me for permission. - Denimadept (talk) 17:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ LINSEY DAVIS (@LinseyDavis) and EMILY FRIEDMAN (@EmilyABC) (September 30, 2010). "NJ Gov. Wonders How Rutgers 'Spies' Can Sleep at Night After Tyler Clementi's Suicide". ABC World News with Diane Sawyer. abcnews.go.com. Retrieved 29 July 2012. 
  2. ^ Preuitt, Lori (March 10, 2011). "Student Survives Jump From Golden Gate Bridge". NBC Bay Area. NBC Bay Area. Retrieved March 10, 2011. 
  3. ^ Tom Leonard (14 March 2011). "Teenager jumps 220ft off Golden Gate Bridge suicide spot for dare and LIVES". Daily Mail/Mail Online. Retrieved 29 July 2012.  More than one of |website= and |journal= specified (help)

Typo check needed[edit]

Hi. Can you check my typo in the article Whole Country is Red. Im sure the text i wrote has errors. -RicHard-59 (talk) 20:48, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Richard - The Wikipedia article you posted too closely replicates the wording of the "Top 13" article, and needs a rewrite to summarize the material in your own words. - Froid 07:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

People associated with Anne Frank[edit]

My sincere compliments on your editing work on "People Associated With Anne Frank". Bravo! I did make one grammatical correction to "Hannelore Klein". Melos Antropon (talk) 05:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


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Fixed 'em all! Froid 04:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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Accidental blanking?[edit]

Hello. With this edit, I had noticed that you had removed most of the page content. Was this an accident, or did you intend to remove the material? Thanks. 2602:304:59B8:1C79:9904:6C8D:6C7D:459F (talk) 02:55, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Sheesh! Thanks for the heads-up. That was a huge error on my part; not even sure how that happened. I've restored the inadvertently deleted content.

Rick Grimes as an everyman[edit]

Normally I revert uncited examples in everyman immediately, given that most additions are drive-bys. I haven't done that in this case but I feel I must insist that examples be cited. Mangoe (talk) 03:27, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Done! I noticed the the Jim Halpert example was uncited as well, so I added a citation for that entry, too. Additionally, I performed some cleanup on the page (e.g., I properly formatted the bare url for the Stan Marsh entry).
Thanks. I get so tired of people who don't understand the concept adding any character who isn't a complete weirdo. Mangoe (talk) 01:27, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on United States Army Corps of Engineers[edit]

Hi Froid. Thanks for contributing to United States Army Corps of Engineers. I feel that such a significant agency should be portrayed to higher standards through the proper use of citations of third-party sources than it is. Anything you can do to help would be welcome! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Agreed! Just posted citations for the Pentagon and Manhattan Project. Froid 22:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Noble Savage[edit]

Hi Froid,

Your section on the Noble Savage Today is entirely without references. I think I understand what you are trying to say, namely that the motion pictures you list arguably depict tribal or primitive people in an idealized or "unrealistic" way, but you need to back up your statements with citations from a reliable source, otherwise it comes off as a mere opinion of yours and is not encyclopedic in tone or content. Thanks. Mballen (talk) 22:26, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Mballen - Click that article's "View history" tab, and you'll see that I edited the article's preexisting content but did not provide said content. My only contribution, besides copyediting, was to add a link under "See also/Cultural examples" that directs readers to Perspective that contributed to Hells Angels' use as security for some 1960s rock concerts. That section documents that fact that Ken Kesey referred to the Hell's Angels as "noble savages", explains his rationale, and provides a credible citation. - Froid 22:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
My sincere apologies and thanks for the clarification. I've forgotten how to add needs citation tag, actually, or would have done so! 173.77.77.172 (talk) 23:51, 16 November 2012 (UTC) Mballen (talk) 23:58, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Froid, I had a look at the citation from James Miller and found that, so far as I can see, it was he and not Ken Kesey who used the word "noble savages" to describe the Hells Angels and I therefore changed the article to reflect this. It is interesting that rock critic Miller happens also to be a professor of political science who wrote a book about Rousseau, accusing Rousseau of being a precursor to totalitarian democracy and even Stalinism. Therefore, I would conclude he was not a neutral observer but that in using the epithet "noble savage" had an ax to grind. Best. Mballen (talk) 22:52, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Also, thanks for the heads' up about how to insert citation needed. Very useful.

Broken City[edit]

Hi, Froid. I don't think it is necessary to recap Allen's career in Broken City's "Production" section. I do understand the partial relevance of mentioning what similar stuff he has directed before. Maybe we could do a "Notes" section like American Beauty (film) has? Erik (talk | contribs) 00:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

character's[edit]

Hi Froid, can you please explain how "character's" is correct and not simply "character". The sentence "Sarah Wayne Callies is still credited among the main cast, despite her character's being killed off" doesn't seem right. I've re-read it a bunch of times, and it seems wrong. For example, "Sarah Wayne Callies' character is killed of" is correct, but surely "Sarah Wayne Callies character's is killed of" is not. Why would "character" need an 's when it's referring to one character, not multiple. I'm genuinely confused, and I really want to know why that is correct. It'd be great if you could explain it. Thanks. Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Drovethrughosts - The rule is: use the possessive case before gerunds (words ending with -ing). See rules 12 and 13 at GrammarBook.com: Apostrophes Froid 22:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay, those examples make perfect sense. But do you not agree the sentence still doesn't sound right at all? Or is it just me? While repeating the sentence back to myself another hundred times, I figured it makes sense when in future tense, "her character's being killed off", as in "her character is being killed of" but her character was/has been killed off. Am I on to something or am I still in the wrong? Thanks. Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Drovethrughosts - The explanations for your thinking [note the use of the possessive pronoun "your", followed by the gerund "thinking"] the corrected sentence doesn't sound right are:
  1. You're only newly acquainted with the grammar rule that sentence obeys, so you haven't yet developed a reliable ear for the proper usage, and
  2. The rule is commonly broken, both orally and in writing, so you've become accustomed to such violations.
I'm glad you followed up on this issue, because we Wikipedia editors should take care to avoid making grammatical errors as well as correct those we find.
Best wishes, Froid 00:37, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Any chance the word "being" can be replaced with "been" in that sentence (and still be grammatically correct, it has to be). To me, that sounds perfectly correct and won't drive me nuts everytime I read that sentence, lol. I feel there's a tense problem (been -> being) with that sentence, and that's what fucking me up, no? Thanks again. Drovethrughosts (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually, the use of "being" is incorrect. The sentence should read "the character's having been killed off", so I've made that correction. Thanks for pointing it out. Froid 16:42, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Wait, can it just say "despite her character has been killed off"? That sounds perfectly right. Thanks for dealing with me over just a minor thing (and probably slightly annoyed), ha. Drovethrughosts (talk) 17:07, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Drovethrughosts - Your proposed replacement phrase, "Despite her character has been killed off", is sooooo incorrect; ouch! The sentence as currently written is grammatically correct; please don't change it.
You've already acknowledged that you're unfamiliar with the rule of grammar that applies in this instance and, consequently, applying that rule here doesn't sound right to you. May I respectfully suggest, then, that the appropriate next step is NOT to mangle the sentence to make yourself feel comfortable, but rather for you to either: (1) give yourself time to become comfortable with the grammatically correct sentence construction , or (2) let this issue go and move on. Best wishes, Froid 17:31, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You definitely earned this one! Thank you for all your hard work. It's greatly appreciated! Recollected (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

About your TWD notice[edit]

Hi Froid! I didn't change "Shumpert" to "bowman", I did the exact opposite. Maybe an unregistered user changed it. I believe this is all a misunderstanding. Thanks for you work in the TWD pages though. Jal11497 (talk) 07:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Your signature[edit]

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Thanks for the heads up. I've made the change. The preview indicates it did the trick. Froid (talk) 14:56, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Yep, that's it. It's fine now. Sorry about the duplicate message. Graham87 07:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Max Jacobson[edit]

I see you have made recent additions to the article. The page numbers for the book you cite are missing. If you know the page numbers, please add them in. Thanks, Kierzek (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Kierzek: I linked an online article that isn't paginated; I did, however, provide the url. Cheers, Froid (talk) 12:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay. Kierzek (talk) 12:40, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to a Wicnic in Gainesville on Saturday, June 22nd[edit]

Greetings!

Seeing that you've edited the article on Gainesville on Wikipedia, I'm inviting to the North Central Florida 2013 Great American Wiknic that will be on Saturday June 22, 2013, commencing at 1:00 pm, ten blocks north of UF campus in Gainesville,.

If you're able and inclined to come, please RSVP at at this URL.

Type to you later, Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

RSVP'd June 1 Froid (talk) 17:26, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Your edit to everyman[edit]

I'm sorry to have to revert your edit, but it has no citation and it seems to me, looking at the movie's article, to be a questionable analysis of the character. Fields's stock drunk character is its own type. But at any rate, this article has been plagued with people putting in uncited examples, so I've had to be very hard-nosed about removing them. If you can come up with a citations, you are obviously welcome to re-add this example. Mangoe (talk) 13:40, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Undid the revert and added a parenthetical comment and multiple citations with quotations noting Fields' "Everyman" characters in several talking pictures. Froid (talk) 14:31, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter[edit]

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

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Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...

New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.

New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??

New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges

News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration

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The Wikipedia Library's Books and Bytes newsletter (#2)[edit]

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Welcome to the second issue of The Wikipedia Library's Books & Bytes newsletter! Read on for updates about what is going on at the intersection of Wikipedia and the library world.

Wikipedia Library highlights: New accounts, new surveys, new positions, new presentations...

Spotlight on people: Another Believer and Wiki Loves Libraries...

Books & Bytes in brief: From Dewey to Diversity conference...

Further reading: Digital library portals around the web...

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Books & Bytes New Years Double Issue[edit]

Books & Bytes

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Volume 1 Issue 3, December/January 2013

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Happy New Year, and welcome to a special double issue of Books & Bytes. We've included a retrospective on the changes and progress TWL has seen over the last year, the results of the survey TWL participants completed in December, some of our plans for the future, a second interview with a Wiki Love Libraries coordinator, and more. Here's to 2014 being a year of expansion and innovation for TWL!

The Wikipedia Library completed the first 6 months of its Individual Engagement grant last week. Here's where we are and what we've done:
Increased access to sources: 1500 editors signed up for 3700 free accounts, individually worth over $500,000, with usage increases of 400-600%
Deep networking: Built relationships with Credo, HighBeam, Questia, JSTOR, Cochrane, LexisNexis, EBSCO, New York Times, and OCLC
New pilot projects: Started the Wikipedia Visiting Scholar project to empower university-affiliated Wikipedia researchers
Developed community: Created portal connecting 250 newsletter recipients, 30 library members, 3 volunteer coordinators, and 2 part-time contractors
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Broad outreach: Wrote a feature article for Library Journal's The Digital Shift; presenting at the American Library Association annual meeting
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Books & Bytes, Issue 4[edit]

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 4, February 2014

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News for February from your Wikipedia Library.

Donations drive: news on TWL's partnership efforts with publishers

Open Access: Feature from Ocaasi on the intersection of the library and the open access movement

American Library Association Midwinter Conference: TWL attended this year in Philadelphia

Royal Society Opens Access To Journals: The UK's venerable Royal Society will give the public (and Wikipedians) full access to two of their journal titles for two days on March 4th and 5th

Going Global: TWL starts work on pilot projects in other language Wikipedias

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Pullman porter article[edit]

Thanks so much for your excellent copy edit of the article! I will fix the citations you asked for, but I'm not sure what you are suggesting for the "out of date" tag. I wrote the article and I've searched the web for any information I could find and included it. What were you suggesting for updates? Gandydancer (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gandydancer:
Thanks for the kind feedback! The section of the article I labeled "outdated" indicated that two men were SCHEDULED to speak at the museum's 50th anniversary; since that date has past, the section needs updating to indicate whether or not they ACTUALLY spoke. Would you please edit that section to indicate whether they ACTUALLY did it or not?
FYI, my great uncle was a Pullman porter, so for me that article is especially interesting and important. Thank you for writing and maintaining it! Froid (talk) 03:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Of course I was aware that it would have been good to follow up that information but I've never been able to find a follow up. In my experience this is not unusual, I run into the problem all the time. I reworded the information and hope that you do not replace the tag. I could have removed the men's names, but I have so much respect for these men who faced so much discrimination and yet somehow endured. I like the idea of having the "power" of adding their name to wikipedia--it is one of the few joys that an editor gets around this place. :) I did it in my Gandy dancer article as well. Where was your great uncle living when He was a porter? Was he black? Gandydancer (talk) 23:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi again, Gandydancer,
Love your wiki handle! Are you a current or former railroad worker?
I see what you mean about finding updated info about actual attendees and won't re-post the "outdated" tag. Instead, I posted references providing further info about the two former Pullman porters who were scheduled to speak at the anniversary event.
Yes, my great uncle was black. He's originally from Virginia, but I'm unsure where he was living at the time he became a Pullman porter (and therefore what city/state he'd have listed in the registry). I look forward to learning much more from my folks.
What a great find for the article! Again, you have been a great help in both your info hunting and your edits. I do the best I can, but I really am not at all gifted when it comes to writing.
No, I didn't work on the railroads. I am retired--I was an RN. But I actually did sleep in a berth when I was little, perhaps four years old. It was during the war years and my dad had been shipped out and "Mama" took us on the train to live in our family home in Northern Minnesota while he was gone.
A black uncle! Not too many white people can say that! Yes, do learn everything you can from your parents. Information that is not written down has a way of getting lost forever.
I'm going to use some of the new info you found in the article so please check back later and see if I've left more work for you. ;) Gandydancer (talk) 23:18, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Gandydancer,
Wish I'd written down what Mom told me about my Pullman porter uncle, or requested more details sooner, as she now can't remember. Fortunately, we're having a family reunion this summer, so I'll ask around then.
RE: "A black uncle! Not too many white people can say that!" Why do you think I'm white?
RE: "I'm going to use some of the new info you found in the article so please check back later and see if I've left more work for you. ;)" - It's fun collaborating on an article in this way! - Cheers, Froid (talk) 23:49, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Why do I think you're white? Well, I did wonder...but in my experience a lot of people here do not like to offer any personal information. It's something I don't understand as I'm not that way at all. Now I'm feeling a little embarrassed about it all... Gandydancer (talk) 02:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
No need for embarrassment, friend. - Froid (talk) 01:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 5[edit]

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Issue 5, March 2014
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  • New Visiting Scholar positions
  • TWL Branch on Arabic Wikipedia, microgrants program
  • Australian articles get a link to librarians
  • Spotlight: "7 Reasons Librarians Should Edit Wikipedia"

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OER inquiry[edit]

Hi Froid, I'm sending you this message because you're one of about 300 users who have recently edited an article in the umbrella category of open educational resources (OER) (or open education). In evaluating several projects we've been working on (e.g. the WIKISOO course and WikiProject Open), my colleague Pete Forsyth and I have wondered who chooses to edit OER-related articles and why. Regardless of whether you've taken the WIKISOO course yourself - and/or never even heard the term OER before - we'd be extremely grateful for your participation in this brief, anonymous survey before 27 April. No personal data is being collected. If you have any ideas or questions, please get in touch. My talk page awaits. Thanks for your support! - Sara FB (talk) 20:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Don't tag...[edit]

...fix it. Drive-by tagging simply leaves the work for other people to do, it's much more collegial (and efficient) if you actually fix the problem instead. BMK (talk) 02:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

There's no prohibition against noting cn's and unreferenced articles, pages, and sections. Moreover, both noting the need for references and contributing said references contribute to improving Wikipedia. Sometimes I do fix the problem (which cleans up work the original contributor left undone); at other times while reading an article that I see needs citations or better references, I indicate that need, but I may be focused on another agenda or have limited time to chase down references, in which cases it would be INEFFICIENT for me to switch gears to go on a reference hunt. In still other instances, I might be reading Wikipedia on a device (such as my phone or ereader) that permits me to note the need for references but is ill-equipped to search for and/or type them in. Whatever the case - whether I hunt down and fix a reference or not - it would be irresponsible to notice the need for references yet not indicate that finding. Froid (talk) 03:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, I see you have reverted my notes indicating the need for references. You appear to be unfamiliar with the rules for using references - one cannot merely state facts without providing supporting evidence. If you dislike providing such evidence, don't just remove the tags; let someone else provide such support. And please read one or more of the following guides for citing references, found at such links as these:
I'm going to replace my good faith and well-founded edits. Let's not get into an edit war; if you dislike my notations, then please call in a mediator. Froid (talk) 03:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I've requested input from a third party to help resolve this: see Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Bryant_Park. Froid (talk) 03:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, 9 years here and 145K+ edits means that I'm "unfamiliar" with referencing. Stop being so fucking lazy and fix a problem when you see it. And stop tagging "the sky is blue" facts. BMK (talk) 04:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I've expanded my request for intervention (regarding your reactions to my tags pointing out unreferenced and underreferenced content) to now also include attention to your disruptive and uncivil (category 1a 1b, 1c, and 1d) behavior. As per Wikipedia guidelines, I'll tag your user talk page accordingly. Froid (talk) 08:00, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Help please[edit]

Hi there Froid, would you please take a look at the first two paragraphs under the "Later events" section of the Emmett Till article where I just made a few changes? It's a GA and I'd like to get it right. It's mostly the placement of commas that concerns me, but any other needed tweaks would be appreciated. Thanks. Gandydancer (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Gandydancer. Done! Hope all's well. Best wishes, Froid (talk) 09:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library: New Account Coordinators Needed[edit]

Hi Books & Bytes recipients: The Wikipedia Library has been expanding rapidly and we need some help! We currently have 10 signups for free account access open and several more in the works... In order to help with those signups, distribute access codes, and manage accounts we'll need 2-3 more Account Coordinators.

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Commas[edit]

Hello, thanks for your edit to How to Win Friends and Influence People. However, I've removed the commas you added to the article because I find them quite clunky; perhaps it's an English variant issue. Graham87 15:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi User talk:Graham87, I appreciate your letting me know, but I've reverted your reversion. The commas are not an "English variant" (i.e., style) issue but rather a basic punctuation/ issue; without them, the article is grammatically incorrect. In case you feel strongly about this matter, I don't want either of us to provoke an edit war and have opened a discussion on the matter at Talk:How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People#Commas_debate. Froid (talk) 00:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Credo[edit]

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Sunday August 17: NYC Wiki-Salon and Skill Share[edit]

Sunday August 17: NYC Wiki-Salon and Skill Share
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You are invited to join the the Wikimedia NYC community for our upcoming wiki-salon and knowledge-sharing workshop on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

2pm–5pm at Yeoryia Studios at Epic Security Building, 2067 Broadway (5th floor).

Afterwards at 5pm, we'll walk to a social wiki-dinner together at a neighborhood restaurant (to be decided).

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WP:JSTOR access[edit]

Hello, WP:The Wikipedia Library has record of you being approved for access to JSTOR through the TWL partnership described at WP:JSTOR . You should have recieved a Wikipedia email User:The Interior or User:Ocaasi sent several weeks ago with instructions for access, including a link to a form collecting information relevant to that access. Please find that email, and follow those instructions. If you were not approved, did not recieve the email, or are having some other concern or question, please respond to this message at Wikipedia talk:JSTOR/Approved. Thanks much, Sadads (talk) 21:14, 5 August 2014 (UTC) Note: You are recieving this message from an semi-automatically generated list. If you think you were incorrectly contacted, make sure to note that at Wikipedia talk:JSTOR/Approved.

Digital rights management[edit]

Hi Froid,

I have rmeoved a section you added to this article as there was potential for it to be legally contentious. As the information is hosted in the Unied States linking to websites that provide advice and assistance with removing DRM protection as mentioned earlier in the article may fall foul of the following. In 1998, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) was passed in the United States to impose criminal penalties on those who make available technologies whose primary purpose and function are to circumvent content protection technologies. I feel that the information may still be able to be included without the link itself but as it was your edit you may want the opportunity to reword the section. If you want me to readd it with the potentially problematic bit removed just drop me a message. Amortias (T)(C) 09:59, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 8[edit]

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Issue 8, August-September2014
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  • TWL now a Wikimedia Foundation program, moves on from grant status
  • Four new donations, including large DeGruyter parntership, pilot with Elsevier
  • New TWL coordinators, Wikimania news, new library platform discussions, Wiki Loves Libraries update, and more
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Art+Feminism | Train the Trainers[edit]

Art+Feminism | Train the Trainers

Art+Feminism is pleased to announce Train the Trainers, a series of workshops in advance of the second annual international Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. We will provide tutorials for both the beginner Wikipedian and the more experienced editor. Learn the best practices on writing entries that stick and how to facilitate the empowerment of your community. The first workshop will take place on October 27, 2014 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at The Graduate Center of The City University of New York. Women, women-identified and male allies welcomed. Experienced editors please talk on the meet up page to help co-facilitate. Light refreshments will be served.

Hope to see you there! --Failedprojects (talk) 18:14, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Now Available (November 2014)[edit]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today :)

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for:

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Thursday December 4: NYC Wiki-Salon and Skill Share[edit]

Thursday December 4: NYC Wiki-Salon and Skill Share
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Unblock[edit]

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Please unblock my login when I'm using a VPN network. The VPN network protects the security and privacy of my activities when I'm using public Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi on networks I fear may be subject to "sniffers" (I live/work in the New York Metro area, where that problem is widespread). Froid (talk) 16:26, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The IP address you're using has been blocked, because it acts like a proxy server. While we could grant you IP Block Exemption, this would only be done if there was an actual need for you to edit from this IP address. PhilKnight (talk) 17:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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New Wikipedia Library Accounts Now Available (December 2014)[edit]

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The TWL OWL says sign up today :)

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首里城[edit]

Hi. I reverted your edits on Shuri Castle because you made disruptive edits. I will readd the italics to the game titles. And why did you add a literature section and then removed it? ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 03:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello and Happy 2015,

"Disruptive edits"? Yikes! That sounds serious, and akin to vandalism. I certainly didn't think my good faith edits were disruptive. I'd be grateful if you would please explain why you found my edits disruptive.

I removed the literature section I'd added because I was editing while using my cellphone. I wanted to postpone that work until I was at my computer, from which I could more easily find a more precise citation. I'll hold off on adding that section, pending your reply. - Froid (talk) 12:55, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Froid: This edit was disruptive, as it made half of the top paragraph run off the page. You just made small wikicode mistakes that could have large effects. The "literature" and "games" section are a little unnecessary because of how small the "in popular culture" section is, but the book you were adding was fine and should be readded. Happy new year! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 17:29, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 9[edit]

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Issue 9, November-December 2014
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  • New donations, including real-paper-and-everything books, e-books, science journal databases, and more
  • New TWL coordinators, conference news, a new open-access journal database, summary of library-related WMF grants, and more
  • Spotlight: "Global Impact: The Wikipedia Library and Persian Wikipedia" - a Persian Wikipedia editor talks about their experiences with database access in Iran, writing on the Persian project and the JSTOR partnership

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Saturday February 7 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon[edit]

Saturday February 7 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon
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You are invited to join us at New York Public Library's Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture for our upcoming editathon, a part of the Black WikiHistory Month campaign (which also includes events in Brooklyn and Westchester!).

12:00pm - 5:00 pm at NYPL Schomburg Center, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard (Lenox Avenue), by W 135th St

The Wikipedia training and editathon will take place in the Aaron Douglas Reading Room of the Jean Blackwell Hutson Research and Reference Division, with a reception following in the Langston Hughes lobby on the first floor of the building at 5:00pm.

We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 06:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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HELP WANTED: Good copy editor needed[edit]

Hi there Froid, I have (mostly) written an article, Lake City, Colorado, and I'm looking for a copy editor. I'm almost done and I'd sure like some feedback about it if you have any, and a copy edit. Are you interested and have the time? Gandydancer (talk) 12:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Gandydancer, Happy 2015! I made some copyedits, and added some details and references to your very interesting article. Cheers, Froid (talk) 14:36, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the fine edit. I hope that I did not hurt your feelings, but I cut back some of the Alferd Packer stuff since he has his own article. Hope all is well with you. Do you have time to do more copy editing? It would be good to have someone go through the Ebola in Africa article that I have worked on. We had a good copy editor for awhile but after the first talk page squawk (not about her work--just something she could not resist) she left and never came back. We have one editor that takes care of some things, but he does not improve phrasing the way she did and you do. Best, Gandy Gandydancer (talk) 23:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: Boss (TV series)[edit]

Thanks for your work on this article. I loved this show. Would be a great article to promote to GA status one day (and certainly easier than articles for shows which had many more seasons). Keep up the great work! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:15, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm sorry the show's creator declined the offer to complete the story via a film. Froid (talk) 00:09, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Me too. I thought that would have been a great opportunity to tie up some loose ends. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:26, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

The Borgias[edit]

"my change was valid and more appropriate than what you wrote; fyi - you do not own the article." My change was equally if not more valid, it undid a mistake you made and a hyphen was not inappropriate (it being one of those "differences between British English and American English" thingies). To suggest that I might think I "own" an article I had never looked at before and will never look at again is laughable. For your outstanding edit summary, and your careful editing - which you partially undid yourself, literally one minute later - you are my drongo of the day for 5 February 2015. Congratulations, there is no prize. YSSYguy (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Namecalling? Someone needs a time out.

Organizing content[edit]

Content is typically organized in medical articles per WP:MEDMOS Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:42, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

Hello Froid, and thanks for your contributions. Please remember it makes it easier everyone to watch pages and collaborate if you use edit summaries. Thanks in advance for considering that. One question: what's with the first and last changes in this edit? Eric talk 14:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 10[edit]

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Issue 10, January-February 2015
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  • New donations - ProjectMUSE, Dynamed, Royal Pharmaceutical Society, and Women Writers Online
  • New TWL coordinator, conference news, and a new guide and template for archivists
  • TWL moves into the new Community Engagement department at the WMF, quarterly review

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Sunday March 22: Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference[edit]

Sunday March 22: Wikipedia Day NYC 2015
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You are invited to join us at Barnard College for Wikipedia Day NYC 2015, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference for the project's 14th birthday. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

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June 10: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting[edit]

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HM Prison Bedford and Bedford Hills Correctional Facility for Women[edit]

Hi, I'm sorry but I've reverted your edit again. It's tricky to fit everything into the edit summary so I thought I would start up a discussion with you. Basically, the see also section of an article should be for related subjects, not similar or ambiguous article titles. I don't think there's any confusion between a prison called Bedford and one called Bedford Hills, but if you think there is, it's better to use {{distinguish}} at the top of the article, instead of placing a link in a "see also" section. I don't think someone looking for Bedford Hills will end up at the HMP Bedford article, but do you? Thanks. –anemoneprojectors– 13:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 12[edit]

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Easter eggs in the Ellis Peters articles[edit]

Froid If you look at the histories of the articles on the Ellis Peters novels featuring Cadfael, you will see that other editors undid what you insist on doing, calling what you did an "Easter egg." I think that means that real title of the link is obscured by using only part of it, leading to a surprise for the person following the link. I am not willing to believe that you have checked every page in English language Wikipedia that links to those controversial 'year in literature' pages for the format of the link, and clearly you have not looked at the edit history of the articles you recently altered. I agreed to do the link the way the higher level editors described, and they let the link to the 'year in literature' page remain in the article, which seems a fair bargain. The year in literature pages have improved a bit over the years, including more events across the world. Their first reaction was to delete the link altogether. I am not one for edit wars, nor for name calling about links or about commas and italics. I hope you can find the edit history, and see that you are reversing the reversal, and stop making the change in these articles, as you did in The Leper of Saint Giles and other novels in the Cadfael series. --Prairieplant (talk) 06:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

The "Ellis Peters cabal" can call it what they like, but they've isolated themselves into an iconoclastic bubble. Wikipedia has been specifically engineered to permit/encourage such so-called "Easter egg" links which are among other purposes, meant to be used in the way I did in the edits to which you are referring. Froid (talk) 04:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Froid The Ellis Peters cabal? Do you have a list of names of editors who belong to that group? There are many editors for those articles, I think. When I added my bits to those articles, I was still pretty new to Wikipedia editing, and happy to learn from others how to contribute in a useful way. Some of the editors were very good writers, able to teach a lot with a timely edit. I failed to detect a cabal. And of course, I am still learning how to contribute in a useful way. Is this Easter egg thing discussed somewhere on Wikipedia? Besides the corrections I was asked to make, or course. --Prairieplant (talk) 03:42, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
You're kidding, right? I call it a "cabal", somewhat tongue-in-cheek, because the editors of those pages have decided they dislike the accepted Wikipedia practices of typing publication/release dates in parentheses or of linking those dates to larger pages. Hence, my use of the term to describe the coordinated efforts of multiple practitioners, to achieve a common goal. I'm surprised I have to explain this.

Sunday August 2: WikNYC Picnic[edit]

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David Chase Vox article retraction[edit]

Hi. Here Chase denies what Vox said: http://www.vulture.com/2014/08/david-chase-statement-response-to-tony-soprano-didnt-die.html . Even at the end of the Vox article, there is the mandatory mention of a retraction by Vox themselves, with a link to this: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6076621/david-chase-responds-to-our-sopranos-piece . The Vox article has been criticized as a sensationalist fabrication meant to attract views, it does disservice to readers to know about it, as it may confuse them about Chase's overall stance towards the finale. We must not post journalist's lies to give them any undeserved attention. If Chase denies it, the article loses its legitimacy as being correct or notable. I hope you'll agree with me and change your mind about mentioning the Vox article. Even mentioning it and then its retraction would be confusing to readers, I think. The liars do not deserve any attention. TheBearPaw (talk) 06:19, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response and for the citations! Though I thoroughly understand your point of view, I disagree. Rationale: you and I are having a private discussion about this matter, yet many others are not privy to the retractions. Moreover, it's possible Chase said - sarcastically, and out of frustration to shut her up - exactly what the reporter printed, and later regretted doing so when it made it into print without the retraction he would likely have voiced in that same meeting. Whatever the truth is, the article is publicly available, its existence should be noted, and (I believe) so should Chase's rebuttal. Froid (talk) 06:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

RE: Fear the Walking Dead[edit]

Thanks for your work on this article. I posted some sources on the talk page about the pilot episode, if you have any interest in working on Pilot (Fear the Walking Dead). Either way, thanks again! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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Just an LOL[edit]

Saw your gnoming at Comanche (horse), our paths have crossed occasionally, and I've long wanted to ask you if you know there is a Froid, Montana? Montanabw(talk) 20:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Gee, thanks, Montanabw. I didn't know that, but after reading your message, I read (and groomed) the article! Interesting, tiny town. Though I love to ski and ice skate, I'd never move anywhere named "Cold" (in any language). I like warm weather too much. Heh! Froid (talk) 22:18, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I actually have not been there, but I know a couple people who lived there (past tense). Montanabw(talk) 22:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

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Saturday October 3: WikiArte Latin America Edit-a-thon @ MoMA[edit]

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Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!)[edit]

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In conjunction with Archtober and New York Archives Week, the Guggenheim will host its third Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon— to enhance articles related to women in architecture on Wikipedia. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of Ada Lovelace Day for STEM, and Art+Feminism for art, in a field that, by its nature combines both.

The Guggenheim will work alongside ArchiteXX, the founders of WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design #wikiD, the international education and advocacy program working to increase the number of Wikipedia articles on women in architecture and the built environment. New and experienced editors are welcome.

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noon - 8pm (drop-in anytime!) at Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Garrett Lobby @ 1071 5th Ave by E 88 St

In conjunction with Archtober and New York Archives Week, the Guggenheim will host its third Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon—to enhance articles related to women in architecture on Wikipedia. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of Ada Lovelace Day for STEM, and Art+Feminism for art, in a field that, by its nature combines both.

The Guggenheim will work alongside ArchiteXX, the founders of WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design #wikiD, the international education and advocacy program working to increase the number of Wikipedia articles on women in architecture and the built environment. New and experienced editors are welcome.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global partnerships page to discover an edit-a-thon in a city near you or simply join remotely.

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Please stop that[edit]

I've just reverted the inappropriate formatting at Poisoned candy myths again. Please read WP:ELCITE. WP:Citation templates do not belong in the ==External links== section. Correct formatting is typically similar to [https://www.example.com Title of page] at Some Website, without the authors, dates, publisher, or other details that would be desirable or even essential in a cited source.

Also, there's no |date= parameter in the {{snopes}} template, so adding it was pointless. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:35, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

Articles listed but not external links are "Further reading", should be formatted as articles, and should not be placed in external links, so I'm putting them there. It's not inappropriate to date (or accessdate) links from websites, including Snopes, as web pages may change materially between the time they're posted and the time Wikipedia users read them. Froid (talk) 11:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

You might look in on[edit]

… the R&D intensity article, where I did a review and citation improvement today. It still desperately needs updating by an economist, but it is more easily followed up upon, since the source links are now current. Cheers. Le Prof 50.240.131.212 (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

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The Heke's[edit]

If it's Jake Heke, then the family is the Heke's. Snori (talk) 04:56, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Nope, your command of the grammar here is incorrect. Please don't change proper corrections to errors to accommodate that. Grammatical rules indicate: the family is the Hekes, the singular possessive form for something Jake owns is Jake Heke's, and the plural possessive form for something his family owns is the Hekes'. Froid (talk) 06:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Indeed. Snori (talk) 23:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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Millvina Dean[edit]

Hello, please see my amendment to your edit there. Graham87 07:12, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

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Instalments[edit]

Please stop calling the Flavia Albia novels "installments" of the series. For a start, the UK spelling has only one "l", but the word suggests an inoomplete entity, like an instalment of a story told in weekly instalments in a magazine, rather than a full free-standing book. Thanks. PamD 08:04, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

And I now see you've done it on all the Falcos too - they're not all on my watchlist. I will edit those articles. PamD 08:05, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
The use of the word "installment" is perfectly appropriate in this context, at least in USA usage. But use another word, if you like. Froid (talk) 08:15, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
If you were going to use it at all it would be the UK spelling of "instalment" as she is a British author. But "book" is much better here. PamD 08:24, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
As you wish.Froid (talk) 08:27, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

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Rose madder[edit]

I removed an unreferenced quote you added. You added a ref before it and a blank ref tag after it. Not sure if you meant to add the ref after the quote. Bgwhite (talk) 08:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon[edit]

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Tina Turner[edit]

I've reverted your edits - in my view, the previous version presented the information in a much better format. But, I'm sure I and other editors will be happy to discuss your changes if you want to make a case on the article talk page. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:20, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I undid your reversion and posted my rationale on the article's talk page, along with the following link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:I_just_don't_like_it. Froid (talk) 16:06, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Your latest comments seem a little harsh. I thought we'd resolved our differences...? Anyway, I've responded. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:30, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Saturday, March 5: Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon @ MoMA[edit]

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April 13: WikiWednesday Salon NYC and Mini-Video Opportunity[edit]

Wednesday April 13, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC and Mini-Video Opportunity
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Special this month, a Mini-Video opportunity for individuals to share their Wikipedia experiences (during pre-meeting, 6-7pm, and in side-office during regular meetup). A videographer will be present to record 1-3 minute Mini-Videos of folks informally speaking, sharing anything about their Wikipedia-related projects, whether an edit-a-thon they joined, an article they edited, or a class project they were a part of, etc.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (Art+Feminism!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

We will also place our chapter's votes for the global Wikimedia Foundation board.

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6:00pm - 7:00pm Mini-Video and social hour
7:00pm - 9:00pm Regular meeting: Introduction for new participants, Noshing, Chapter projects

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Saturday April 30: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim[edit]

Saturday April 30, 1-6pm: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim
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On Saturday April 30, 2016, in conjunction with a global campaign, the Guggenheim will host its fourth Wikipedia edit-a-thon — or, #guggathon — to enhance Wikipedia's coverage of modern and contemporary artists from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, and to counter geocultural systemic bias on Wikipedia.

The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of the Guggenheim UBS MAP Global Art Initiative, and build on the model of campaigns like the Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Women in Architecture, Wikipedia Asian Month, and Art+Feminism.

New and experienced editors are welcome. The event will include a training session for participants who are new to Wikipedia and Wikipedia specialists will be on hand to provide basic instruction and editing support.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global MENA Artists Month partnership page to coordinate international and online events as well.

Time: Presentation: 1:00 pm - 2:30 pm, Edit-a-thon: 2:30pm - 6:00pm
Location: Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, 1071 Fifth Avenue (88th Street), New York City, New York 10128
Guests should enter using the 88th Street entrance via the ramp at 88th Street and Fifth Avenue

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May 25: WikiWednesday Salon NYC / Enterprise MediaWiki Conference[edit]

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This month's WikiWednesday Salon, we'll meet and share with the MediaWiki software development community, through a community learning night at NYU on May 25.

6:00 pm: Introduction, pizza
7:00 pm: MediaWiki tutorial, community involvement and extension ideas, novel uses of wiki technology
8:00 pm: State of the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia / Wikimedia community
9:00 pm: Monthly WikiSalon in San Francisco video-link, casual bicoastal chat

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Sunday June 5: Women in Jewish History Edit-a-thon[edit]

Sunday June 5, 12-5pm: Women in Jewish History Edit-a-thon
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Join us for a full Sunday of social Wikipedia editing at the Center for Jewish History (drop-in any time!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to Women in Jewish History.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Expanding coverage of Jewish women on Wikipedia makes these women and their creations discoverable, addresses the gender bias on Wikipedia in a positive way, and works to correct imbalances archival collecting practice and institutional projects that have historically silenced women's narratives.

A training session on editing Wikipedia will be held at 12:30 pm. Experienced Wikipedians will be on-hand to assist throughout the day. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

Light refreshments will be provided.

Make edits! Ask questions! Be bold!

Time: 12:00 pm – 5:00 pm
Location: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street (between 5th and 6th Avenues), New York City, New York 10011

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Citation changes in Newark article[edit]

Your recent edit to the article for Newark, New Jersey made several changes to citations, none of which were either necessary or appropriate. Per WP:CITEVAR, the citation style used in the article should be consistent and shouldn't be changed arbitrarily. Alansohn (talk) 14:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

I agree with the importance of consistency. However, in my view, it's important not only for references (which rather than being maintained in the state they are in, should ALL be changed to conform with Wikipedia's style guidelines as well as copyedited to correct errors), but for grammar/mechanics, encyclopaediac ordering of contents (e.g., alphabetically, chronologically, or in accordance with some other appropriate scheme when applicable), and other issues competent editors attend to, as well. The changes I made (which you inappropriately reverted) addressed the aforementioned issues I cited and, as such, were appropriate and needed, not arbitrary. Since you appear to be inordinately proprietary about the article, I suggest you redirect the time and energy you're investing in guarding its status quo - which is counterproductive, iconoclastic, uncollegial, unprofessional, and not at all user-friendly (as you're obstructing efforts to improve the article) - into addressing the many elements of the article which require improvement.
I also suggest that you adopt another approach to working on this collaborative project that is Wikipedia. Your talk page indicates you have had similar clashes with other editors and have been cited multiple times for edit warring, but you don't appear to have reformed your behavior. As you've wasted my time by reverting my edits and have ignored my earlier advice to seek third-party intervention, if you disagree with them, I've now joined the ranks of editors who have cited you for edit warring, as noted on your talk page. Froid (talk) 05:35, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

June 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday June 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Featuring special guest presentations on Wikipedia Asian Month and Wikipedia Club at Ohio State University.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (Art+Feminism! AfroCrowd!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

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Wikipedia rules and regulations[edit]

Wikipedia has a series of rules and regulations that are to guide our editing activity. One of them is WP:CITEVAR, which states "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference, to make it match other articles, or without first seeking consensus for the change. As with spelling differences, it is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it; if you believe it is inappropriate for the needs of the article, seek consensus for a change on the talk page."

You may also want to read WP:BRD, which makes clear that once you've been bold and been reverted, you need to start discussion to obtain consensus for the changes you seek to make

I'm not sure that you are fully aware of how Wikipedia works and the fact that your report on WP:3RRN was improperly formatted and thus rejected raises deep and fundamental questions of competence. While I do enjoy the claim that my edits are "iconoclastic", you wold be well served to step back and start over with the edits to the article for Newark, New Jersey, which have been reverted to the status quo ante, per WP:BRD.

I encourage you to start observing Wikipedia guidelines that specify leaving citation styles unchanged. I look forward to your attempts to discuss these issues in a collegial manner on the article's talk page and obtaining consensus before making changes not backed by policy. Alansohn (talk) 04:36, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Firstly, you contradict yourself. On the one hand, you state you look forward to attempts to discuss matters in a collegial manner on the article's talk page; on the other, you (erroneously and uncollegially) impugn my competence. Additionally, since you raise the matter of competence, I point to the fact that I am not interested in imposing my personal style of citations, but rather the style dictated by Wikipedia's own style guidelines, for which reference/citation templates were created for a reason, and without my input. All editors would do well to invest time learning and applying those, rather than clinging to and guarding attempts to update another style they adopted, which differs from the style Wikipedians invested talent and effort to encourage use of by creating a template to make its use user-friendly.Froid (talk) 03:12, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 17[edit]

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  • New library stats, WikiCon news, a bot to reveal Open Access versions of citations, and more!

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Louise Brooks[edit]

Very much like Wikipedia, "goog grammar" is a consensus issue, not a scientific absolute, especially when as you did in your edit to this article, you changed the tense of the material. Clearly you believe your version is superior, and clearly I disagree, so you edit is disputed, and the way we settle that here is not by using the Argument from Authority, but by a consensus discussion on the article talk page. So, please, do not revert again, I have restored the article to the status quo ante as required by WP:BRD. Your Bold edit has been Reverted, and now you get to Discuss on the article talk page, why you believe your version is superior and I am a complete dumkopf. BMK (talk) 02:36, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Louise Brooks#Grammar is the place to go. BMK (talk) 02:48, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Defensive, much? I hope not, and I choose to assume that tone you adopted is lighter than it comes across as. BTW, I am unfamiliar with "goog grammar" but extremely well-versed in the rules and application of standard American English grammar and mechanics.Froid (talk) 03:15, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Wednesday June 29: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA[edit]

Wednesday June 29, 6-8:30pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA
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Join us for an evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art Library's second annual Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to LGBT art, culture and history.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Also featuring a lightning talk by CUNY students at the La Guardia and Wagner Archives on a project to document local 1980s HIV/AIDS activism on Wikipedia.

Experienced Wikipedians will be on-hand to assist throughout the day. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

Time: 6:00 pm – 8:30 pm
Location: Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA, 4 West 54 Street - between 5th/6th Ave, New York, NY 10019
Please note that this entrance is one block north of the main 53rd Street entrance, closer to 5th Avenue.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 21:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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Talkback[edit]

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There's inline comments, a ping of you on the talk page and a common way forward. Please could you take note of them, and use the talk page. I've reverted your edits until then due to these issues, and look forward to discussing there. Widefox; talk 07:04, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

"Copyediting" at Fort Bridger and elsewhere[edit]

Please see these brief, but partial, attempts to repair some of the minor damage your recent edits to this article have caused. As noted here and previously, most of the changes you make are merely subjective tweaks, not corrections, improvements or genuine copyedits, and some of them introduce new, outright errors. There is no need, for example, to reorder terms into alphabetical order, or to refactor phrasing like this. These are neither grammatical or even stylistic errors. N-HH talk/edits 21:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

RE: "As noted here and previously, most of the changes you make are merely subjective tweaks, not corrections, improvements or genuine copyedits, and some of them introduce new, outright errors." Regarding the first point, I did make one typo and omit the closing > on a reference. Thanks for finding and pointing those out; I've fixed them. However, regarding the second point, I find it very disappointing, even sad, that you and others seem to mistake as stylistic, subjective, and/or valueless changes that actually repair or improve poor grammar or mechanics, and that you use "copyediting" and a patronizing, melodramatically world-weary tone in your post to underscore your disdain for my copyedits. Many copyediting and grammar-mechanics skills are reiterated (and for some students) taught for the first time in the old standardized test prep for English/Reading - e.g., for the ACT/SAT, as this one and these - and many of the corrections I've made are to remedy commonly made errors such as those addressed in those programs. When errors are commonly made, many people (apparently, including you and numerous other Wikipedians) are so used to seeing/hearing them that they don't recognize the familiar usage/constructions as errors, and therefore, the need to correct them. However, that's no justification for Wikipedians who do recognize such errors to allow them to stand. Again, I'll fix the errors I inadvertently made (apologies for those!). Froid (talk) 00:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
RE: "There is no need, for example, to reorder terms into alphabetical order," - The article Donner Party indicates, "The Donner Party (sometimes called the Donner-Reed Party) was a group of American pioneers led by George Donner and James F. Reed", so it's appropriate to reference the two groups in that order. Moreover, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, for goodness' sake, and as such, should present lists of items in a logical, easily justifiable/discernible order, whether chronologically, alphabetically, in descending/ascending quantitative order, or in whatever sequence makes sense in context. In cases when the ordering or reason for it is not easily discernible, then it should be made explicit.
RE: "There is no need, for example, to [...] refactor phrasing like this - see my post above, about commonly made errors in grammar/mechanics, which many Wikipedians don't recognize as errors.Froid (talk) 00:49, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, but you have still offered no specific evidence that much of what you change relates to actual stylistic, let alone grammatical, errors. Others have also disagreed with you, and your repeated response is to say "Yes, you see people doing this, but they're all just wrong. Luckily I know better". You'll have to do a bit more than that. Has it occurred to you that people don't think they are errors precisely because they are not? How about asking directly for someone else's opinion or citing a grammar authority that directly agrees with you on the specific points in question, rather than pointing vaguely to the entirety of one? By contrast, while berating everone else for their supposed errors, you happily insist on your right to impose minority stylings such as "an hotel" (I never said it was wrong, just archaic and less common in 2016, assuming it was deliberate, which it is now clear it was). As for fixing errors, you knee-jerk reverted one of my repairing edits, before then putting it right yourself. Now that's either incredibly petty or shows you're not thinking about what you're doing properly. This might help explain the weary tone. As for patronising, that goes both ways. N-HH talk/edits 08:40, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
ps: on the specific point of a vs an hotel, please see this, which entirely corroborates what I have said. As I said, it's not an outright error, but it's pretty close to one these days. It's definitely more of an error than the things you often change and mark as corrections. That link is also the kind of specific evidence that it would be good, as noted, if you could provide for some of your assertions, eg about "X entered the competition, winning first prize" being a faulty type of construction which is better rendered as "X entered the competition; they won first prize", which I suspect most readers would in fact find more stilted. N-HH talk/edits 09:57, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Sunday July 10: WikNYC Picnic @ Central Park[edit]

Sunday July 10, 3-8pm: WikNYC Picnic
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You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Manhattan's Central Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.

3–8pm - come by any time! The picnicking area is the southwest section of the Great Lawn, north of the Delacorte Theater, just inside the park at Central Park West between 81st & 82nd. Enter the park at West 81st St.
Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner!
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We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 14:54, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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Copyediting, again[edit]

Just to be clear, I have occasionally looked in on your edits since this edit, claiming to be a grammar improvement, appeared on a page I keep an eye on. Of course, in fact, it broke the grammar of that sentence. As noted above, this happens quite often. For example, this recent edit has introduced several errors – i) "as well as continued", ii) "From 1984-2008" and iii) "On 1981" – when there were no actual problems that needed solving anyway. This edit, on the same page, in its zeal to (needlessly) alphabetise every list, missed the point that the Roots Band were Etta James's backing band, and split them apart, as well as adding a link to an unrelated group. One only has to look as well at the number of bot notifications on your talk page relating to reference, linking etc errors.
Aside from such errors, many other changes are simply neutral or dubious, hence arguably not worth making at all: why, for example, change "consists of" to "comprises"? Why move "in 19XX" to the start of every sentence? Why move every reference to a film being made "in 19XX" to brackets after the name of the film? What is exactly wrong with use of the -ing present participle (which as noted elsewhere, is not the same as a gerund)? None of this is "copyediting" or "grammar/spelling correction". I have tried to point certain things out to you a couple of times now, but you just ignore advice and carry on regardless. I'm not going to spend the rest of my life checking up on things like this, let along sorting them out for you, but a little more care and more openness to people who disagree with you about more subjective grammar matters wouldn't go amiss. N-HH talk/edits 09:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

OK, and now there's this one. I'll drop this now, as I don't want this to be seen as, or felt as, excessive scrutiny, but if an editor is constantly introducing errors into pages (alongside often redundant changes) while purportedly copyediting, that's a problem which other editors are entitled to keep an eye on and flag up. I repeat my last sentence from my previous comment, and will leave it up to others from now on to pick up and deal with the mistakes that keep coming. N-HH talk/edits 15:15, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
You wrote: "I don't want this to be seen as, or felt as, excessive scrutiny". Too late, according to various sections of Wikipedia:Harassment.
I'll not waste a lot of time here, for various reasons, so I'll make but a few points:
  • I've set bots to notify me of whatever errors bots can notify me of so I can correct them. I don't always delete bot notices after I've acted on them, nor is it required that I do so.
  • In some other instances, I review pages I've previously edited, in order to quality control my work. If you or another editor beats me to the punch, so be it. Unfortunately, though, I've seen instances where your "editing" reintroduces errors, "throws the baby out with the bathwater", or flat out reflects you either don't grasp, don't appreciate, or don't give a flying hoot about certain grammar/mechanics/syntax/style/copyediting conventions that warrant certain edits. *Moreover, you've repeatedly expressed disdain for my efforts to logically order items (whether alphabetically, chronologically, or according to other valid schema); that's surprising, since Wikipedia has guidelines calling for that. Why don't you look those guidelines up?
  • Despite your implication in an earlier post, it's neither necessary or appropriate to expect another editor to define or post a link to a grammar/style/syntax/mechanics rule every time they make an edit of that kind.
  • While I am open to and often comply with constructive feedback, suggestions, and even mentoring, your off-putting tone and approach, from your first post on my Talk Page, reflect the very culture and atmosphere Wikipedia is trying to correct.
  • Since you've flat out stated that my edits bear oversight, and it's not inconceivable that you'll enlist other editors to join in, don't forget to also note the thank you's/kudos I've received for my work or the documentation on my Talk Page of amiably resolved debates and collegial work. Also, don't overlook the fact that numerous editors have such a poor grasp of written English and/or of the need to properly organize or cite their work that there might be higher "crimes" worth investing time/energy/snarkiness on than mine.

Froid (talk) 21:36, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

I have engaged you politely and reasonably, but you just shrug everything off, or declare yourself to be right about grammar and style issues when you often are not, such as re "an hotel" and re gerunds/participles. You also reverted one of my unambigious corrections to your work, before making exactly the same correction yourself, which, as noted, is incredibly petty. And I have only of course pressed you for explicit justifications on points of dispute, not demanded them for every change you make (in most cases, when asked, you never try, and even when you do, the things you cite do not back up your assertions). As for WP rules, there is no guideline I am aware of that requires alphabetisation, and WP:Harassment explicitly only applies to behaviour that has the "aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor", which, as noted, is not my intent (nor is it my intent to "enlist" anyone else to do anything). It also, pertinently, says: "Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) ... correcting related problems on multiple articles". Finally, I am aware of the terrible phrasing and unambiguous style errors that appear on many WP pages, and some of what you do indeed helps improve it. But given the extent of such problems, you can hardly be surprised that someone might be slightly concerned about edits that claim to be about copyediting and correcting errors, but are in fact as often as not making dubious and unnecessary changes to content which is currently perfectly OK. Worse, they often make it less readable or even introduce outright errors into it where there were none before. That, surely, is compounding the problem as much as it is solving it. N-HH talk/edits 20:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

3 August 2016 reply to N-HH's posts, which have become harassing[edit]

Dear N-HH:

  • For the record, as I've already stated above, despite my solid confidence in my grasp of grammar/usage/mechanics/copyediting/style/formatting skills in the "real world" (given my education, training, professional experience, relevant test scores) and within Wikipedia, I'm neither omniscient (especially when it comes to some arcane rules) nor infallible, and I make typos, and I know/acknowledge this. Therefore: I have set up bot alerts to help me detect and correct my errors, I sometimes (though not always) backtrack to review my past work and make any necessary improvements, and I'm aware other editors might either beat me to the punch or might make improvements or corrections to my work that the bots and I don't catch. I also have benefited from and appreciate some direct communications from other editors that I'll classify as "collegial", "mentoring", or "informative" in a constructive way. I think you perceive your posts to me as falling in those veins. (I wish they did, but many of them don't.)
  • Also for the record, it doesn't offend me in any way when other editors beat me to the punch to correct errors I've inadvertently made but have either neither corrected yet nor detected. In fact, I'm sorry about introducing errors (when, in fact, they are errors) and glad when actual errors - whichever Wikipedian makes them - get corrected, whoever corrects them. The whole point of all of Wikipedia editors' efforts in this community should ultimately be to improve Wikipedia, n'est ce pas?
  • It's only comments from other editors who either don't assume good faith, or who don't care about good faith and instead communicate offensively (for whatever reason), that grate. However, any editor who becomes insulting, irate, a bully, a stalker, or an harasser (yes, I know you object to that construction, but it's grammatically correct and its use is subjective), crosses a line both rationally and according to Wikipedia's rules of civility, and is not serving the greater good/ultimate goal.
  • Even in such instance, though, I take pains to bear in mind the greater good (which should supersede individual agendas/motives/ego, etc.) and the reality that time spent editing Wikipedia should be enjoyable, self-improving (e.g., by exposing one to new knowledge and skills), and/or designed to promote the greater good. Otherwise, why bother, since editing Wikipedia is optional, pro bono, and for must of us, accomplished using aliases and therefore doesn't confer any real-life "credentialing" effects. With those caveats in mind, there's never any reason to engage in power struggles or to attack/harass/belittle other editors, nor to suffer such affronts.
  • As I've also stated, you and some other editors who have objected to some of my edits are not infallible, either, and you have sometimes made edits, reversions, or objections to my contributions which, on your part, have been in various cases (whether purposefully or not) inappropriate, incorrect, subjective, indicative of low standards (e.g., when you disdain edits you deem "minor"), and/or reflective of agendas that don't result in the best outcome for Wikipedia.
  • I urge you to see your interactions with me from another point of view. My suggestion, first take a time out. Then, objectively reread all of your posts to/about me, made both on my User Talk Page and before that, on the article(s) that incited your "tracking" of me, and don't overlook your tone/approach from your very first engagements with/about me. Then reconsider your opening statement in the post to which I'm currently responding and fathom why I reiterate: your behavior, tone, and series of posts about/to me reflect you are more than "slightly concerned". I also urge you to then review Wikipedia: Harrassment and see how it applies to your behavior, which whether intentional or not, has the effects that article warns against.
  • That's a pity, since Wikipedia's admonition and the statement posted atop my User Talk Page urge editors to assume good faith. As a corollary, I submit, any edits/contributions/corrections/interactions in the Wikipedia community should be made in good faith, too.
  • Contrary to what you believe, I adhere to those good faith principles and motivations, and I cannot control, nor do I much trouble myself about others' projections on me of the contrary. That is, until others delve into harassing behavior, as I reiterate you are demonstrating (wittingly or not), your protestations notwithstanding.

Neither petty nor a knee-jerk reaction[edit]

  • In case I didn't address this point earlier, but you've reiterated it in your last post, so it's important to you: my reversion the edit session you cite was neither petty nor a knee-jerk reaction as you claim. Your misreading of the situation indicates misreading and/or projection on your part. Rather, my actions in that instance reflect my concern that you not "throw the baby out with the bathwater" (as often happens) and instead to revert the valid corrections I agree were warranted, while maintaining other (also valid) edits that I didn't want to have to track down and remake. Stop. Consider. Do some perspective-taking.

How interesting - and worse, unfortunate - your reaction to that interaction expresses only your concern with being reverted and your indignation (or worse), fueled by your misunderstanding of my motive, than with consideration of what really was at play and (a more appropriate sense of) pleasure or satisfaction that the errors you're referring to were ultimately corrected, and the greater good (improving Wikipedia) served. I realize this may read as snarky, and so I apologize in advance, as that is not my intention. Rather, it is an observation that bears consideration.

Links to Wikipedia pages I urge you to read, in response to your comments to me/edits of my work[edit]

  • Excerpt from my earlier post: "Moreover, you've repeatedly expressed disdain for my efforts to logically order items (whether alphabetically, chronologically, or according to other valid schema); that's surprising, since Wikipedia has guidelines calling for that. Why don't you look those guidelines up?"
  • Your following statements are inaccurate:

"And I have only of course pressed you for explicit justifications on points of dispute, not demanded them for every change you make (in most cases, when asked, you never try, and even when you do, the things you cite do not back up your assertions)."

and

"as often as not making dubious and unnecessary changes to content which is currently perfectly OK. Worse, they often make it less readable or even introduce outright errors into it where there were none before."

But who has time or patience to engage in wikilawyering? Correction: I' have neither time nor patience for it. I will, however, share some articles that explain some principles I follow when editing (that you seem unaware of or disdain), e.g.:

  • Excerpt from my earlier post: "Moreover, you've repeatedly expressed disdain for my efforts to logically order items (whether alphabetically, chronologically, or according to other valid schema); that's surprising, since Wikipedia has guidelines calling for that. Why don't you look those guidelines up?"

Bigger picture, forward-looking thoughts[edit]

  • All that said, here's what I wholeheartedly believe: Wikipedia should require every editor, no exception (in other words, including us) to take, to periodically retake, and to demonstrate mastery of Wikipedia-sponsored, graded seminars designed to ensure all Wikipedians have a common mastery and understanding of important Wikipedia-sanctioned rules of grammar/mechanics/usage/style/formatting, AND of rules of conduct, of engagement, and of conflict resolution within the Wikipedia community.

Last words (I hope)[edit]

I welcome constructive, collegially-toned interactions from editors (including you) who share the above-mentioned "greater goal", and whose communications are enlightening, informative, or otherwise positive/constructive, and which are non-harassing. Point of fact: You've made/documented numerous points and have, in multiple instances, repeated yourself. Point of fact: I've read them and replied. Point of fact: Neither of us will benefit, and I don't welcome, further posts from you that beat that dead horse and would constitute (further) Wikipedia:Harassment (despite your contention that your posts are not harassing).

More points of fact: You edit and care about the quality of Wikipedia. So do I. Neither of us wants to either be or to be viewed as a troll, stalker, harasser, or other type of Wikipedian who causes harm or destruction, despite the fact that we both sometimes make some inadvertent errors that need to be corrected, either by us or - as we hope to avoid - by others. (See User:Froid.) Obviously, we share some common ground.

Let's move on from there. Froid (talk) 12:05, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

As seen, for example in the Janis Joplin article and others I've edited in the past few days, NHH is still "stalking" me, racing to find and correct any errors I might make before I can correct them myself, and - and here's the issue worth noting - in the process is making snide comments in the edit summaries, which constitute Wikipedia:Harrassment. NHH needs a time out, and perhaps, an intervention. A review of his/her User Talk pages indicates multiple others have complained and admonished NHH about incivility and other similar behavior with others, and it might be necessary for an administrator to monitor NHH's behavior. Froid (talk) 15:38, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

As noted, I don't want to get bogged down in long, back-and-forth discussions about all this, nor is it my intention to harrass any user. The problem is with the quality of some of your edits and your apparent confusion about certain principles of grammar, despite your assertions that what you are doing is "copyediting" or "grammar correction", as well as your persistent refusal, in the face of observations by several other editors, to accept that you might be at all in error (which, as noted, is the cause of my slight exasperation with this situation). Sometimes you declare a rule, and one form of phrasing therefore wrong, when in fact both are acceptable; other times you declare a rule that supposedly favours what is in fact an incorrect form. There is of course also the slightly separate point about the regular introduction of obvious errors into what was previously clean text due to lack of self-proofing. I'll bullet-point the main recurring issues, some of which have been discussed elsewhere, and privide some links for you.

  • Alphabetisation: you linked above to the MOS guidance. But this is clearly about lists, not running prose, and also allows for other logic to come into play re ordering. Alphabetisation is neither obligatory nor often the best way to order material. For disambiguation pages specifically, please see WP:DABORDER, which explicitly says the "most common meanings may be placed at the top". Others have raised this exact point with you on this talk page.
  • Possessive form: I see you are now in dispute with another editor (User:DrKay) about s' vs s's. The fact is that both are acceptable in the real world, and indeed in the MOS here. What matters is consistency in an article.
  • Double possessive: You seem to think this is compulsory (and not using it an error). It is not. Equally, no, it is not always wrong – indeed sometimes it is necessary for clarity – but it is often deprecated in formal writing and often unnecessary. I explained this to you here. Here is a discussion of the topic.
  • Participles: you seem to have an aversion to the use of the -ing form of the present participle, including in adverbial and adjectival phrases, possibly because you confuse it with use as a gerund/noun; hence why you also have argued that "X led to Y doing Z" requires an apostrope and that "X did Y, doing it better than Z" is ungrammatical. Neither is the case. Here's a link on this.
  • As well as: this again relates (in part) to participles. Yes, it can sometimes substitute for "and", but it does not do so universally, or require exactly the same grammar around it. "X does Y as well as doing Z" is the standard, idiomatic form; "X does Y as well as does Z" is incorrect. "W does X, Y and Z" cannot be replaced by "W does X, Y as well as Z"; only by "W does X and Y, as well as Z". On the first point, please see this and this.
  • A/an: with words that start with "h", such as "hotel" or "historic", "a" rather than "an" is usually preferred these days. I already pointed this out to you a while back, but I see you are still switching to "an". Here is the link again. And FWIW, your claim that you had to revert my correction of a separate typo of yours on that page, as I had thrown "the baby out with the bathwater" and lost other, legitimate changes, is simply untrue. As I said, I made that correction on its own. You then reverted it, again on its own.
  • Years: As also previously noted, as far as I am aware, there is no rule of grammar or style that requires the universal changing of "X did Y in 1983" to "In 1983, X did Y" (indeed it leads to rather repetitive structure; and sometimes the emphasis needs to be different). Nor am I aware of any WP style guidance that requires "the 1983 film X", or "the film X was released in 1983" to always be changed to "the film X (1983)".
  • As a final, one-off point, re adding Elizabeth Warren to the Indian disambiguation page. I will revert this addition again. This is a disambiguation page, to direct readers to different pages which uses the term in question, not to list every context in which it might be used. Warren's page does not open by saying she is "also known as the Indian"; nor is there page "Indian (Trump insult)". Absent either of this, it should not be there. This page does not, and should not, list every person who has been described as such by someone else.

If you wish to complain about me harrassing you, feel free. I am more than happy to have each of our actions put under scrutiny. Equally, if you want further discussion about any of the above points, please post a note at WT:MOS and get a third opinion. N-HH talk/edits 11:03, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

reaction to N-HH's post of 11:03 7 August 2016 (UTC)[edit]

N-HH's communications and behavior constitute Wikipedia:Harrassment. Both common sense and Wikipedia's advisement for handling such behavior advise against engaging perpetrators of same, so I will not reply to his/her last post. Nonetheless, this is MY talk page, and I am posting the following:

  • N-HH has made multiple inaccurate claims and protestations, including the most recent (shared below), which his/her behavior - e.g., as documented by his/her posts on this User Talk page and on his/her stalking of me online and commentary in his/her edit summaries - are either disingenuous or reflect deep denial:

"I don't want to get bogged down in long, back-and-forth discussions about all this, nor is it my intention to harrass any user."

  • As this page reflects:
    • N-HH keeps repeating him/herself and pushing his/her "case" on this page and has ignored my requests to stop doing so, which compounds behavior that already constitutes Wikipedia:Harrassment
    • N-HH seems hell-bent on engaging in additional behaviors that constitute Wikipedia:Harrassment (e.g., following MY edits specifically and handling them in the manners I've described in my previous posts), e.g., stalking/hounding/Wikipedia:Harrassment/wikilawyering
    • N-HH his obviously ignored my suggestion (posted in a previous post) to reframe the situation and move forward in a more positive, productive manner
    • N-HH's communications on this user's talk page, in edit summaries when "editing" or reverting my work, and on multiple articles' talk pages is frequently uncivil, condescending, denigrating, insulting, and (as previously noted) repetitive, and constitutes Wikipedia:Harrassment
  • N-HH lacks the level of mastery of grammar/usage/mechanics/copyediting/Wikipedia guidelines/styles/rules s/he thinks s/he possesses (e.g., see N-HH's comments above which reflect unawareness of conciseness, parallelism, etc.), frequently demonstrates that s/he embraces (and tries to impose on others) the use of commonly made errors, and tries to impose on others the use of his/her subjective preferences when there's more than one approach.
  • Because of N-HH's less-than-complete mastery, s/he has on multiple occasions reverted valid edits/contributions as well as overlooked/denigrated the legitimacy/value of valid changes/contributions
  • N-HH seems unaware or unconcerned that his/her manner of communicating and his/her behaviors are not only inappropriate and violate Wikipedia's guidelines, but that s/he comes across as laughable in those instances when her "corrections" or reversions are incorrect yet accompanied by haughty/derisive commentary that is inaccurate or reflects ignorance
  • N-HH is highly negative and selective, honing in on data that support his/her worldview and agenda, e.g.,
    • N-HH looks for the existence of or relative proportion of errors, completing ignoring the existence of or relative proportion of valid edits/contributions
    • N-HH focuses exclusively on rules/guidelines/options/incidents that support his/her point of view even when aware of other applicable rules/guidelines/options/incidents that don't
    • N-HH doesn't seem to distinguish between disagreements between editors (reflected in edit summaries or on talk pages) that are part of the normal/useful give-and-take associated with editing this community enterprise and frequently occur between editors, versus those (like N-HH's) that are dysfunctional/inappropriate. Nor does N-HH seem interested in how any other disagreements are handled/resolved other than those which might support his/her negative agenda.
    • N-HH completely ignores positive posts on this user's talk page that belie his/her negative filter about this editor, such as thank you's, tortes, requests for assistance, invitations to participate in editing other pages/projects, and the like
  • Posts on N-HH's user talk page, on this talk page, and on other Wikipedia pages (e.g., where administrative actions are being discussed) document that:
    • N-HH has exhibited and been called out for/reviewed/admonished by other Wikipedia editors, admins, or admin bodies for multiple instances of similar behavior on other occasions, with other Wikipedians. So N-HH's pattern of behavior and communication style, in question here, are neither unique nor new.
    • The above-mentioned remedy-seeking actions seem to have had very little, if any, reformatory impact on N-HH's behavior or communication style, which I reiterate in my case, constitutes Wikipedia:Harrassment
    • N-HH frequently expresses an undue (and unwarranted) sense of superiority, an inflated sense of his/her competence, outright derision for the competence of others who disagree with him/her (whether such others are correct or not), an inappropriate and dysfunctional need for power/control, and propensities for obsessive-compulsive/punitive/stalking/hounding/wikilawyering/harrassment

Froid (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

And you haven't addressed a single one of the substantive issues raised above, but are just throwing around insults now. I note previously you accuse me of repeating myself – but that is of course because you don't respond to points and don't modify your beliefs when the evidence is presented to you. I wouldn't have to keep coming back to this if you did, and yet it is all my fault? Please. Indeed, you are still reverting me here, despite the evidence I presented above about the idiomatic verb form usually found with "as well as". As for my "sense of superiority" and "inflated sense .. of competence", I have provided direct and focused third-party evidence for every single one of my assertions relating to your edits and points of dispute, and, on top of that, suggested you seek the views of other WP editors at the MOS page in respect of them. Yes, that is because I am confident I am right, but at the same time, I am not asking you to just take my word for it. By contrast, you simply assert you know best about various grammar "rules", and accuse everyone else of lack of competence and making errors, without providing any similar evidence about what they might have got wrong, and without anyone else backing you up. Indeed, as noted, plenty of other WP editors have already disagreed with you about the same things I disagree with you about. As it happens, if actual evidence was presented to me that I might be wrong about something, and other editors were patiently trying to explain why, I would at least stop to think for a second, and either respond to their criticism/evidence in a bid to rebut it or accept I might have been wrong. I'm not a fan of going to ANI or other project pages to moan about other editors, preferring to try reason first, but please don't let me stop you if you think my attempts at reasoning with you (and other editors in the past) – in the face of your (and their) obtuseness – constitute harrassment. I will not respond further here, whether you choose to make more constructive points or to continue ranting, which I am sure you will be pleased to hear. N-HH talk/edits 17:13, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Further evidence....[edit]

Looking in the notices on my user talk page at the last three actions N-HH made today, before I made this post, and for example, at the following excerpt from N-HH's most recent statement on this talk page...

"And you haven't addressed a single one of the substantive issues raised above, but are just throwing around insults now. I note previously you accuse me of repeating myself – but that is of course because you don't respond to points and don't modify your beliefs when the evidence is presented to you. I wouldn't have to keep coming back to this if you did, and yet it is all my fault?

...further evidences what appears to be, on N-HH's part, deep-seated:

  • Need to be acknowledged
  • Insistence on being "right" and' on having that acknowledged
  • Control/power issues
  • Persistent Wikipedia:Ownership of content, at least when it comes to my edits/posts
  • Propensity to engage in bludgeoning and the types of disruptive editing described in Wikipedia:Harassment#Consequences_of_harassment
  • Wikipedia:WikiHate
  • Overbearing sense of ownership and authority
  • Obsessive-compulsive/stalking/hounding/wikilawyering/Wikipedia:Harrassment propensities
  • Denigration of others who disagree with him/her, even when such others have been supported, in the past, by other editors and admin reviews of N-HH's misbehavior - e.g., "I'm not a fan of going to ANI or other project pages to moan about other editors, preferring to try reason first, but please don't let me stop you if you think my attempts at reasoning with you (and other editors in the past) – in the face of your (and their) obtuseness – constitute harrassment."
  • Lack of regard for civility
  • Need to have the last word, though I hope s/he honors this insultingly-worded proclamation: "I will not respond further here, whether you choose to make more constructive points or to continue ranting"
  • However, even if s/he does cease and desist on this page, his continued stalking/hounding/Wikipedia:Harrassment of me on other pages bears addressing, so I've sought assistance from Wikipedia's admins

Froid (talk) 17:53, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

    • Heh, that decision to run off to ANI didn't work out too well or you, did it? For someone with your number of edits, it's amazing what a grammatical nightmare you are. Thank god someone like N-HH is doing the lords work here. 83.143.240.13 (talk) 12:21, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Dunno, didn't read the ANI decision yet. And the anonymity/tone/word choice/overall content of your post don't merit more energy/attention than I've already wasted posting this response. Froid (talk) 02:28, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
P.S. Second thought: if your post is any indicator of the maturity/grammatical competency/civility/professionalism/objectivity level of those participating in the ANI action, then thanks for the heads-up and drastic lowering of my expectations. Thanks, also, for the chuckle induced by the irony of how grammatically-challenged your swipe at my grammatical competency is. If this forum weren't online, then I'd pass you a tissue to wipe the foam off your mouth. Froid (talk) 11:42, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Wildfire[edit]

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Hello! I have recently started a new WikiProject and am trying to recruit new members. The project, WikiProject Wildfire, focuses on articles that relate to wildfires. There is a lot of work that needs to be done. From updating templates, to classifying and improving articles. Any level of commitment is welcome! If you care to just add some input on the founding of the new project, awesome. If you would like to take an active role in editing articles, that is awesome as well! Knowledge of wildfires is NOT a prerequisite for joining the project. In fact, it would be great to have some members of the project who are NOT fire-buffs. That way we make sure that articles aren't just written by and for people in the fire community. If this is something you have any interest in, I would love to have you join the project! Please feel free to join the discussion or leave me a message on my talk page. (Note that you are receiving this message from me because I saw you made multiple edits on a wildfire related page, specifically Griffith Park Fire. Not just spamming you at random.) Hope you have a great day! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:17, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

So happy to have you aboard the project! One thing I would love your assistance with right off the bat is the main project page. It is still a WIP and needs more information added. If you have any thoughts please add them. Is there anything in particular related to the project you are particularly interested in? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:31, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to MILHIST[edit]

August 17: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday Auugust 17, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Featuring special guest presentations on WikiVerse and Bringing Wikipedia to the Last Mile.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (UN Women!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 23:20, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Prep for our chapter elections next month in September (and add your candidacy!): Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Elections

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Swastika[edit]

Care to explain in what way this is ""Fixing style/layout errors".--KTo288 (talk) 12:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

The article's history page indicates you've already made whatever changes you deemed were necessary, so I'll leave it at that. Froid (talk) 21:48, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
I'll take that as a mea culpa for a misleading edit history then.--KTo288 (talk) 22:14, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
If the edit history seemed misleading, that certainly was not intentional! As I stated, you seem to have already made whatever changes you deemed were necessary, and I'll leave it at that.Froid (talk) 22:25, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 18[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 18, June–July 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi, Samwalton9, UY Scuti, and Sadads

  • New donations - Edinburgh University Press, American Psychological Association, Nomos (a German-language database), and more!
  • Spotlight: GLAM and Wikidata
  • TWL attends and presents at International Federation of Library Associations conference, meets with Association of Research Libraries
  • OCLC wins grant to train librarians on Wikimedia contribution

Read the full newsletter

The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:25, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

September 14: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting[edit]

Wednesday September 14, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month will also feature on our agenda, upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (UN Women and CFR!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

Along with the main meeting, hummus and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:06, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

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Military history WikiProject coordinator election[edit]

Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway, and as a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 23 September. For the Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution[edit]

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Fahrenheit 451 into Latter Day Saints in popular culture. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. If you are the sole author of the prose that was moved, attribution is not required. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:53, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

The Last Question at Hayden Planetarium[edit]

On 9 August 2015 you edited The Last Question from "It played at the Hayden Planetarium in the Boston Museum of Science and..." to:

It subsequently played, as well, at the:

I agree with you that it's easier to read the list of planetariums in list form rather than all in one paragraph. However, did you have any information that TLQ played at the Hayden Planetarium in New York City, as opposed to the Charles Hayden Planetarium at the Boston Museum of Science? There are actually two planetariums called Hayden, in New York and Boston, and I haven't been able to find which one TLQ played at. Lee Choquette (talk) 02:41, 27 September 2016 (UTC)