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Actors by gender[edit]

There was a long discussion at both CfD and RFC last fall that resulted in a decision to create actress and male actors categories. More recently there were discussion of such categories as Category:American male child actors which closed to keep. This issue has been discussed multiple times with each time a decision to keep the category. I think will give you a sense of how this was discussed at multiple levels in multiple forums.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:38, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Additionally, Category:American television actresses is 95%+ diffused from Category:American television actors. The most immediate question is, should we diffuse male actors out as well, or have the oddity of treating men as the norm and women as the exception.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
  • For now, to have balance, we need categories like Category:Male actors from Fresno, California. Otherwise we will end up with women in Category:Actresses from California and the Fresno category, while men will be in just the Fresno category. The bigger question is do we need these actors categories at all. However, considering that Fresno is much larger than Hollywood, and considering that Category:Male actors from Hollywood, California seems to be reasonably sized, I would guess the Fresno cats can stay.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
    • Actually, now that I have fully diffused it Category:Male actors from Fresno, California is larger than that for some other cities. My general take on the issue is that gender is controlling to actors. Not only in both specifics and general details, but different awards are given to males and females. Having read through as many actor bios as I have, I can say that there are career paths for males and females, and they tend to be very different. Male actors are much more likely to start out in sports, and to go on to be directors and producers, although not quite as overwhelmingly so now. However, what is clear is that if we have any by city actress categories, we should split all by city categories into male actors and actress sub-cats. At one point I proposed to upmerge some categories like Category:Actors from Modesto, California, but was persuaded that the issue was much too big, and should be taken to an RfC. That has not happened, so we have no clear guidelines on what size is good for these categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:36, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Accidental rollback[edit]

I rolledback your edit in Jahi McMath ‎accidentally - fat fingers while accessing WP from a mobile device, sorry about that. Nthep (talk) 09:34, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Jahi McMath[edit]

respectfully requesting that you consider that you appear to be exhibiting ownership issues with this article. I can see that you have blanked-out substantial amounts of other editors work and pushed your point of view on the article. In my opinion it is not helping Wikipedia or the article and I am asking you to please allow other editors to contribute. Can you please take a break from the article? (talk) 03:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page Funcrunch (talk) 03:16, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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I want you to know that despite our disagreements I hold great respect for you and am happy to see another non-binary identified person on here. I'm speaking in the afd from a strictly sociological perspective not from an attacking perspective towards you.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 18:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate the note. I know you're not attacking me, we just have differing views of whether the article belongs in Wikipedia or not. Funcrunch (talk) 18:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Funcrunch we have to talk[edit] OK-here is the thing. You said "Reference is to New Jersey, not "some states", and does not mention "clinical death""....actually yes, NJ is some states, as-in one example from one of the states that follow the federal law that says that states get to choose. NJ just happens to choose that familys get to decide when to pull the plug or not. There ARE "others" since each state decides in their own state statues/health codes. That cite does not mention "clinical death" because it doesn't have to, brain-dead, legally dead, as long as they are NOT permanently clinically dead-----the family decides. (talk) 06:13, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I will discuss this with you on the talk page of the article. Funcrunch (talk) 06:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


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How is this productive and what exactly is the goal here? (talk) 22:43, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with working on an article. I am collaborating on an RFC/U on your conduct with users who were directly involved in recent interactions with you. This is an established procedure and there is nothing hidden about it. Once the RfC is public you will be invited to comment on it. Funcrunch (talk) 22:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
What is the desired outcome? (talk) 22:52, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I will not discuss this with you further while the RfC is in draft form. Once the RfC is certified and published you will be notified and invited to comment. Funcrunch (talk) 23:19, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Discussion involving transgender issues[edit]

You may want to be aware of and possibly join in: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 121#MOS:IDENTITY clarification. Skyerise (talk) 08:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, already have :-) Funcrunch (talk) 13:36, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

MOS:IDENTITY is being revisited: How should Wikipedia refer to transgender individuals before and after their transition?[edit]

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Thanks - already weighed in :-) Funcrunch (talk) 03:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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Everyday Feminism article[edit]

Hello, thanks for writing this article! I’ve just read it and I'm a bit concerned that this website might not be notable enough to qualify for a Wikipedia article. Here are some guides on that: for magazines and for web content. Basically any coverage of a website on here has to justify notability by citing other sources discussing it, not just citing that website as is true on the article right now.

Are there any extra citations you can add about this organisation showing it's notable? I'm concerned since the article may get deleted otherwise. If so just edit the article and add citations using the cite tool. If you've got any questions just reply below this and I'll try to get back to you. Blythwood (talk) 05:51, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - I'm working on finding and adding references. Funcrunch (talk) 07:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

A page you started (Morgan Spurlock Inside Man) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Morgan Spurlock Inside Man, Funcrunch!

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The page seems notable and pretty well-referenced. It just might need some moving around of sections, such as a "Reception" section for information like the final part of the "Overview" section.

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I think it's ok to list Julia Serano's old name[edit]

since she has many publications under her old name, and a large portion of her academic career was pre-transition, enough for it to be warrant including the name. In addition, her (current, post-transition) middle name is listed on her CV on a page dedicated to her academic work in biology. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:23, 18 April 2016 (UTC)


I replied at the talk page. Funcrunch (talk) 04:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Category:LGBTQIA Wikipedians[edit]

Hi, Funcrunch. I created a category called Category:LGBTQIA Wikipedians, if you'd like to put it on your user page. If so, it is a child category of LGBT Wikipedians so you could modify that one to LGBTQIA Wikipedians. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 08:42, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Checkingfax - That category is showing up as a redlink for me. Anyway I think the more commonly used acronym currently (though it's constantly changing/lengthening) is LGBTQIA. The A there stands for asexual (and/or agender or aromantic, depending on who you ask), not allies. Funcrunch (talk) 15:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Funcrunch. My bad. I left out part of the category name. But I renamed it to lengthen it and make it even more inclusive. See above for the now corrected and expanded category name. Feel free to edit the category directly. I added a descriptive sentence and wikilinks so people unfamiliar with the initialism can know what its expansion entails. Spread the word, as categories with too few uses tend to get nominated for deletion. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 18:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Funcrunch. You can remove the shorter category from your user page now as the longer version is a sub-category of the shorter version. It is now redundant to have both. Thank you for being my first consumer Face-smile.svg Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 00:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi again Checkingfax - the shorter, LGBT category was automatically added when I added one of my userboxes - agender, probably. So I can't remove it without removing the associated userbox. I'm fine with the redundancy :-). Funcrunch (talk) 00:38, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop in to say how happy it makes me to see on-wiki collaboration of any kind growing out of off-wiki engagement. Cheers to you both! -Pete (talk) 01:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hello Funcrunch,

This is just a friendly message to let you know that I am sorry that you were subjected to an ugly personal attack. That kind of garbage says a lot about the person who spewed it, but nothing about you. I wish you well. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:10, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note of support. Funcrunch (talk) 02:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride: San Francisco[edit]

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Thanks, will do! I have a category on Commons of all the photos I've taken, including several from last year's Trans March and other trans-focused events. Funcrunch (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Very cool, I will take a look! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:43, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks, and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:05, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Inspire campaign[edit]

Hello Funcrunch! My name's Joe Sutherland and I'm helping to run the Inspire Campaign on addressing harassment currently running on Meta-Wiki. I'm interested to know a little more about your motivation for proposing your Idea about protecting userspace by default. What was the inspiration for this proposal? And do you think the feedback you have received so far has been useful to you in improving it? Thanks! Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 17:40, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi @JSutherland (WMF): I was motivated by vandalism and harassment I've experienced in my userspace. I believe you're aware of some of the details (feel free to e-mail me about it). The feedback so far has definitely been useful. Funcrunch (talk) 17:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I'm happy to discuss more by email (feel free to fire one yourself with the emailuser function if you would like to). Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 16:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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Sophie Labelle podcasts[edit]

Hi Funcrunch, Awesome work you're doing. I thought you might be interested in these two podcasts featuring Sophie Labelle. I haven't listened to them yet but was at the talks, so I think there should be useful material in them. [1] and [2]. -- haminoon (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Ajamu Baraka[edit]

Thank you for getting involved in finding a balanced perspective on this page which does not distort the person's views via oversimplification. I was disappointed to see that you had to delete some of my work, but I agree that direct & above all complete citation are important (I had paraphrased the end part of a long citation). I thought it was interesting that you considered West's criticism of Obama and Dyson to be tangential to Baraka using the term "sheep-dogging" to describe West's efforts to work within the party. It seemed to me that this provided useful context for understanding the comments. All the same, your influence on this page has been very positive. Thank you! SashiRolls (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

It was mostly the characterization of his words as "surprising" (in reference to Roof and the death penalty) that I objected to. We should not be editorializing or trying to educate readers; we should simply provide concise, unbiased information and links where they can read more for themselves. Funcrunch (talk) 18:03, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes, the original editor had truncated the citation to make it seem surprising. I agree. And are you sure the comments on West are tangential (See above)? SashiRolls (talk) 18:08, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
I'd prefer to discuss these issues on the talk page for the article, where other editors can weigh in (and where I won't get a new e-mail alert every time you edit my page). Funcrunch (talk) 18:11, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Talkpage redaction[edit]

Hello. Good to see you are active at WP LGBT Studies. Do you approve of this redaction? I have never seen this on a talkpage.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - I had unfollowed that page so I didn't notice the one-sided redaction. Funcrunch (talk) 19:06, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
It was just redacted again. Never seen this on a talkpage. Can you please revert it again?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:20, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm not an admin and I don't want to get involved in an edit war, especially on a page that's of low importance to me. As the redacting editor said, feel free to remove the entire section per WP:NOTFORUM and possible BLP violations. Funcrunch (talk) 15:27, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
We're not in the habit of censoring talkpages. Why wouldn't it be restored, with your "NOTFORUM" message at the end?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:30, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Like I said, I don't want to get further involved in this dispute. I only edited Morell's page to add this bit about his Clinton endorsement. I'm going to unfollow the page again now. Funcrunch (talk) 15:34, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. Always thought he was cute, but unfortunately he's not gay. Looking forward to your contributions at WP LGBT Studies, in any case! Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:03, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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@Soham321: I am aware of the discretionary sanctions. Are you leaving this notice on the talk pages of all editors of the page in question (Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations), or just mine for some reason? (Note that I also changed the title of this section, as there's a prior notice on my talk page with the same title.) Funcrunch (talk) 21:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I am leaving the notice on the talk page of all prolific editors who are editing the Trump article you have been editing. I have even placed this notice on my own talk page. Soham321 (talk) 22:04, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for working with me on the AfD discussion, I am just trying to keep it real on Wikipedia so that people like the subject don't get lost in a swamp of wannabe's! CeilingCrash (talk) 02:15, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for withdrawing your AfD nomination. Funcrunch (talk) 03:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Kat Blaque article[edit]

Hi, please stop your inclusion of unreliable sources and fluff articles on Ms. Blaque's page. We discussed this months ago on the talk page. Denarivs (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:06, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Your comment here is obviously in response to my comment on your talk page. Per prior discussion on the Kat Blaque article and the state of your user page at that time, I do not believe you are editing in good faith. Funcrunch (talk) 05:12, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Fair point![edit]

Sorry. I was getting tired. I'm in the UK and it's now way past 1am... I kinda see your point as I scroll the page up and down. My sig is all over the place! I also get obsessive when I start on something and like to see it through to the bitter end... and then usually start making stupid mistakes. Your intervention is timely and most welcome! BTW, when I said "I'll get back to you" it was because I thought you might have misinterpreted the pages you linked to. Not so sure now... Perhaps they need to be made clearer? E.g. m:Grants:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls: "An individual perceiving harassment should be encouraged to avoid responding for some period of time, preferably involving at least one sleep cycle. During that period, the user might get some physical exercise, edit some other subject, or research some subject of interest..." Why? It doesn't say and does sound rather pompous and patronizing. I might pop over there and make that point when I've had some sleep myself. Anyway, enough space on your page now... Good night and sorry again! — Iadmctalk  01:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding my point. It's probably not worth commenting on that "Don't feed the trolls" page on Meta though, because that campaign ended months ago. Funcrunch (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)


Hello Funcrunch,

Thank you so much for attending my presentation about the Teahouse in San Francisco this evening. Thank you also for your work on a very practical measure to reduce harassment on Wikipedia. It was a pleasure to talk with you, and I wish you the very best in these trying times. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:17, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

I just looked at your website, and you are an excellent photographer with a talent for capturing people's personalities. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Cullen328, did this get picked up by video stream? I was sorry to miss it. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello Peteforsyth. Here is the YouTube video. By the way, Funcrunch speaks toward the end about the recent measure to prevent IPs from editing userpages (which has usually been vandalism/harassment). Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
@Cullen328: Thanks very much! I enjoyed your very informative presentation, and Dexter is adorable. Funcrunch (talk) 18:03, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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Teahouse post[edit]

Hi Funcrunch. Seeing your recent post at the Teahouse—the qualification it started with—I just wanted to tell you that "non-hosts" answering questions there is absolutely welcome. The host designation is quite informal and self-selected (and only asked to be removed when the person gives bad advice over and over, or deeply violates the norm there of trying to be friendly with new users).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Fuhghettaboutit: Thanks, good to know! I attended (and photographed) an excellent presentation about the Teahouse by Cullen328 at the Bay Area WikiSalon earlier this month, so thought I would check it out. Funcrunch (talk) 17:01, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh, great. I see there's a Youtube video of the talk. I think I'll give it a gander. Cullen is a sterling editor; a great asset to the project and the Teahouse.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:30, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
I am blushing, but thank you, Fuhghettaboutit. Thanks to both of you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Task forces[edit]

Hi Funcrunch. I was reading the discussion on Women in Red about people with nonbinary identities, in part as there is a significant intersection between people with nonbinary identities and intersex people. I support the creation of a transgender task force, but I also aspire to the future creation of an intersex task force. In my view, there are few people writing on intersex topics, and this generally only happens incidentally by people writing on other issues (on people with nonbinary identities like Pidgeon Pagonis being a case in point). I have hoped that the increasing breadth of material now published on intersex topics would help encourage more people to fill in gaps, and improve the depth of the pages, but this doesn't appear to be happening much (there is an editor working on related medical topics but not so much on other issues). I guess this also reflects the continuing limited visibility outside Wikipedia. As one of the people I encounter more often on overlapping content, I wonder if you have any thoughts on creation of multiple task forces, including an intersex one? Thanks. Trankuility (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

@Trankuility: I have appreciated the amount of work you've put into editing intersex topics. I would gladly support the creation of an intersex task force. My only concern is making it clear that not all intersex people identify as being under the LGBT+ umbrella. I know there's controversy over this issue... Funcrunch (talk) 21:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@Trankuility: Tangentially, would you be interested in presenting with me at Wikimania this summer? I don't know where in the world you live or how comfortable you are with public speaking, so I realize it might be completely impractical for you, but I've been trying to get a panel together without much success... Feel free to contact me by e-mail on this... Funcrunch (talk) 21:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply and invitation. I am more comfortable documenting the topics than speaking about them, but I really appreciate the invite. I agree with you on the connection with LGBT+, but I see a task force as a positive way of responding to this issue. Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide/Task forces states that they can be intersectional - though, at the moment, there is anyway no obvious other parent project. Trankuility (talk) 21:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it is best to wait until other people show interest, or adopt an approach of "if you build it, they will come"? Trankuility (talk) 02:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
@Trankuility: Yeah, I would just start building out a trans/nonbinary task force myself, but the WikiProject guidelines say to gain consensus in the parent project first... Funcrunch (talk) 03:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Signpost WikiProject report[edit]

Hi Funcrunch. I noticed that you recently offered to write/interview for the Signpost Wikiproject report [3]. If you're still interested in helping out, there is actually a request at WP:POST/TIPS § WikiProject Report? to cover WikiProject Birds, in relation to their recent run of FAs. Since they came to us, you would almost certainly have willing participants for an interview. Its up to you if want to proceed with this, but please feel free to ask me, Pete, or the others for any help if you need it. If you do go ahead, I'm sure we'd all be glad to have a Wikiproject Report in the Signpost again. Cheers, Evad37 [talk] 08:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@Evad37: Sure, I have an unusually busy week right now but I could reach out to them next week to start on a report, unless you and Peteforsyth need it sooner. Funcrunch (talk) 15:49, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
That would be good timing Funcrunch. We're pushing out an issue today, and will publish again in ~2 to 3 weeks, so that will give time to formulate questions, reach out, and write up the results. Thanks for the nudge Evad37! Funcrunch, I realize I have been remiss in reaching out with specifics. Apologies. Let's connect in the next couple days, after this edition's out. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:26, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
@Evad37: - Peteforsyth and I have been touch about this report over e-mail. I posted a page of questions for the bird folks today, and pinged their WikiProject. Funcrunch (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the update, looks good! You may also want to check out Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/WikiProject desk (if you've haven't already), for further ideas and resources. - Evad37 [talk] 23:58, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey Funcrunch, thanks for writing up the birds wikiproject report - good stuff there! I hope you continue writing for the Signpost – if you're looking for some more Wikiprojects to interview, I know that WP:USRD, WP:MILHIST, and WP:AUS (or sub-project WP:WA) are active and you're likely to get multiple responses. The have been reported on previously, but not for 5+ years. Also, 2017 is the International Year of Sustainable Tourism for Development [4], so maybe consider WP:TOURISM (they seem to have had some recent activity on their talk page). Cheers, and once again, thank you! - Evad37 [talk] 04:41, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

@Evad37: Thanks and thanks for the WikiProject suggestions - I'll check them out. Funcrunch (talk) 05:02, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Also, feel free to use/edit Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/WikiProject desk and its workpages – or if you can think of some technical or layout changes to make the space more suitable, let me know and I'll have a go at changing it. (BTW, I've archived the old requests to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/WikiProject desk/Archive 1 if you're looking for them later) - Evad37 [talk] 03:41, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@Evad37: Sorry for not responding sooner. I had been exchanging e-mail with Peteforsyth on this also, and just told him that I'd try to have a report ready for the Signpost after the upcoming Feb 20 edition. Funcrunch (talk) 18:18, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Legal recognition of non-binary gender[edit]

Hi there. We are at risk of duplicating material on legal recognition of non-binary, genderqueer and third gender categories. I propose to create a page specifically for this, which can then be transcluded where needed. Trankuility (talk) 19:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

@Trankuility: I was thinking about this when I tidied up the addition to the Genderqueer page a few minutes ago (and was about to do the same for this intersex human rights edit from the same editor, unless you want to handle that one). I'm not really familiar with working with transclusions though; would that be confusing to new/inexperienced editors? Funcrunch (talk) 19:27, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
@Funcrunch I will tidy that edit in coming hours. On editor familiarity, it is simple to set up transclusion, and a comment visible only to editors can be added to the article text pointing to the source page. Trankuility (talk)
@Trankuility: I guess I don't object to that, as long as the comment is also visible to those using the visual editor (I always edit source myself). Funcrunch (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
@Funcrunch: comments do appear. Trankuility (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
@Funcrunch: the article has now been started at Legal recognition of non-binary gender, with transclusions. I hope that it means that the growing volume of material on definitions, discrimination and legal recognition can be better organized. Trankuility (talk) 20:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


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Hi Funcrunch, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! joe deckertalk 05:30, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

(The above is a template, this is from me the human.) Realized you likely met the usual threshold for this when I saw your recent wave of article creations, so I took a closer look. Nice work. Cheers, --joe deckertalk 05:30, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
@Joe Decker: Thanks very much Joe! :-) Funcrunch (talk) 05:31, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Whose Knowledge? News - February 2017[edit]

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Thanks for all of your support for Whose Knowledge? so far! Get ready, we're going to need lots of your help in 2017 :)

What's new in 2017:

1. Volunteers needed

As Whose Knowledge? grows, there are lots of things to do! Can you help?

  • Are you good with data entry, categories, mailing lists or social media? We especially need people to help with organizing knowledge for Dalit History Month, and building out our communications (including this monthly newsletter!) right now!
  • If you're interested in volunteering for these or any other projects, please signup here

2. Pilot projects

Building partnerships and testing our approach with marginalized communities.

  • Dalit History Month: We're working with Equality Labs to support Dalit communities in South Asia and the United States to map knowledge and create Wikipedia content. Dalit History Month edit-a-thons are coming in April!
  • Women's Human Rights Defenders: In partnership with Urgent Action Fund, we'll be supporting a group of women's human rights defenders around the world with more mapping and wiki content creation. Themes and geographies coming soon!
  • Kumeyaay Wikipedia Initiative: Following the 2016 Indigenous People's Day edit-a-thon, we're continuing to work with members of the Kumeyaay tribe in Southern California and Baja to map and contribute indigenous knowledge to Wikimedia projects. A discussion day with Kumeyaay community in San Diego is being planned for May.

3. Funding

We've got financial support for 2017!

  • WMF grant: 6-month funding (February-July 2017) was approved to pilot our approach to mapping knowledge and creating Wikipedia content with the Dalit community and global women's human rights defenders. Thanks for all your endorsements!
  • Shuttleworth Fellowship: Anasuya is a Shuttleworth Fellow! This means we'll be able to spend more time organizing, and have support for convenings, campaign infrastructure, etc.

4. Wikimedia Strategy

Find us at Wikimedia Conference.

  • Anasuya and Siko will be carrying the Whose Knowledge? vision of diversity, pluralism and representation of marginalized communities into movement strategy conversations in Berlin March 2017.
  • What's your vision for the Wikimedia movement? If you have a perspective that you'd like us to help represent in Berlin, please reach out and let us know!

In solidarity,

Siko (talk) 01:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

I Apologize[edit]

Ok I really do apologize for putting all those fake rights and would really like to edit my page the right way. Please accept my apology it wont happen again. Izaiah.morris (talk) 14:13, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

@Izaiah.morris: Thank you. I can't unprotect your user page though; that's up to an administrator. Funcrunch (talk) 16:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


After this discussion has reached a conclusion, feel free to ping me and I'll create you the list that you're after using Template:Wikidata_list based on this discussion. In theory I have the skills for this but they're a little rusty. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:16, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

@Stuartyeates: Thanks, I appreciate it! Funcrunch (talk) 21:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


Sorry about that. Quis separabit? 01:33, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

No problem, I figured it was just a mistake. Appreciate the apology regardless. Funcrunch (talk) 05:06, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


Thanks for adding a new image to Nevertheless, she persisted article. The DYK has been approved, but still not promoted... Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:16, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

@Grand'mere Eugene: Thanks, I looked at the DYK discussion after I added the new image, and agree that the tattoo image is a better one to go with. Congrats on getting it approved for DYK! Funcrunch (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

After reviewing your talk page[edit]

It seems like you could have a history of this. VanillaDazzle (talk) 08:30, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Blavity[edit]

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Good concept, but not yet notable.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. DGG ( talk ) 04:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

@DGG: Deprodded; see edit summary. Funcrunch (talk) 05:31, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
I decided I have higher priorities--there are so many articles with even less support. DGG ( talk ) 15:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Regarding your message[edit]

I don't know if this is the right way to message you on this site, otherwise please direct me to the appropriate place. Regarding the following:

Per this edit: Do not intentionally misgender Asia Kate Dillon or any other trans or non-binary person again on Wikipedia. This is your final warning. Funcrunch (talk) 04:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Please define the term 'misgender' and tell me why I should follow your demands. (talk) 08:12, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@ Misgendering is using pronouns or other terms that do not correspond to a person's gender. I have explained multiple times on the article talk page that Asia Kate Dillon is non-binary, prefers singular they pronouns, and should not be referred to as "she" or "her". I also explained both there and on your talk page that the article is under discretionary sanctions. If you continue to willfully misgender trans or non-binary people on Wikipedia, I will report you to the appropriate administrative noticeboard. Funcrunch (talk) 12:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Right, well as far as I am concerned that is a simply a made-up nonsense word. And again, what any individual prefers is not more important the truth. What you consider 'misgendering' is simply being objective and accurate so there is nothing to at all to report me for. I shall continue to advocate for correct English usage on that page and possibly others. (talk) 15:09, 8 May 2017 (UTC)