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Hello, GPL93, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially your edits to Carlos Santana (baseball). I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Ledes[edit]

That's what ledes do. They repeat the most important stuff from what's in the article below them. (Same as infoboxes). Look at the Derek Jeter article for example .. it mentions when he debuted, not his call up date, but its much the same .. and look at all the other info repeated in his lede from the text below it. --2604:2000:E010:1100:9848:50A0:48B3:889B (talk) 23:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jonathan Estrada (baseball) (June 13)[edit]

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Deprodding of Ben LeCompte[edit]

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Ben LeCompte, which you proposed for deletion, because its deletion has previously been contested or viewed as controversial. Proposed deletion is not for controversial deletions. For this reason, proposed deletion is disallowed on articles that have previously been de-prodded, even by the page's creator, or which have previously been listed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{proposed deletion}} template back to the article, but feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (Deon Yelder) has been reviewed![edit]

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Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 23:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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Niles Scott moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Niles Scott, does not yet appear to be notable. Being on the active roster does not mean he will play in a game which would impute presumed notability per WP:NGRIDIRON. I have moved to draft. If he plays on Sunday (or a future Sunday) the article can be moved back. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:26, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

That's no problem, I created the page because most articles about him being signed to the active roster implied that he would most likely play on Sunday due to injuries on the Bengals Defensive Line but also agree he doesn't meet notability standards if he doesn't see the field. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:54, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (Niles Scott) has been reviewed![edit]

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Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 16:03, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Great job on Ryan Neal! Meatsgains(talk) 01:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (Trey Marshall) has been reviewed![edit]

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Well-written and notable/interesting article. I've made a few minor copy-edits, such as adding attribution to the claim "one of the best safety prospects in the nation," but nothing at all major. You should consider doing a Did You Know out of this one.

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SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 14:43, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Jesus still loves you[edit]

Will you focus on conduct regarding your previous comment? We are on the same level here. John1427 (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

WP:BEFORE[edit]

Hi GPL93 - Thanks for your action on cleaning up non-notable basketball figures. However, I’d like to ask that you brush up on WP:BEFORE and WP:GNG. Some of the figures you are WP:PRODing (like Lourawls Nairn Jr. and Jason Richards (basketball)) seem to easily meet Wikipedia’s general notability guideline (GNG, linked above). It is possible that the articles aren’t well-written or adequately sourced, but these are issues that can be easily corrected. Your responsibility of the nominator is to do some basic research on the subject before nominating for deletion. Also, I’d like to encourage you to use WP:AFD over WP:PROD in cases where notability is borderline. This would make it more likely for the necessary improvements to be made to articles because it would allow for a discussion. In many cases, depending on how the article is tagged, PROD deletes without any discussion whatsoever. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

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Billy Hathorn[edit]

Unfortunately, I don't think there's an easy answer to his content. He tried — hoo boy, did he ever try — to consistently reference bomb his articles hard enough that notability would never be questioned at all, but obviously it didn't work. If you check the history of his contributions at AFD, he genuinely seemed to think that all you had to do to establish an article as permanently notable was to show that they had received a journalist-written obituary in the local newspaper upon their death — so if he could find one of those, he'd smother the rest of the referencing in garbage like what Malcolm Hebert is swimming in, in the hopes that the number of footnotes would prevent anybody from actually quality-testing any of them. And on top of that, a lot of his articles contained outright copyright violations, which were difficult to detect because he was cut-pasting offline sources. And even then, what really got him banned wasn't so much that behaviour itself, but the fact that he started turning to sockpuppetry to storm the ramparts when his stuff started consistently failing AFD tests.

So unfortunately, all I can suggest is to make a judgement call, as you come across a Billy Hathorn special, as to whether PROD or AFD fits what you're looking at better. Bearcat (talk) 03:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bearcat thanks for the advice, I'm sure I'll come across a bunch of these and use my discretion going forward. I just hope that someday I can be as passionate about something as much as Billy Hathorn was about minor figures in Louisiana political history. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • To add to this, theres a list of articles he contributed to here, which is full of several 1000s of articles similar to the ones you've sent to afd. Feel free to nominate some of the ones here, as it would make cleaning up his mess far easier.💵Money💵emoji💵💸 17:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Birthplace source for basketball articles?[edit]

Where are you getting birthplaces for the basketball player articles you create? I suspect that in many cases you are using their “hometown” not their birthplace (I’m always skeptical when the birthplace and high school city are the same). This seems to be the case with Jamal Jones (basketball) (the true birthplace was listed in his college bio). Be careful, many sites like RealGM just use the hometown (where a player lives) as birthplace (where they were born) and as a result are wrong a lot of the time. If in doubt, leave the birthplace field blank. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 23:26, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Rikster2 I will do going forward. I had been going with RealGM mostly but if I can't verify through a different source I'll leave it blank. Thanks for the advice. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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MainlyTwelve (talk) 18:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Half kidding[edit]

(yes, I sorta am aware of some of the creation history here). Maybe you should write WP:Shreveport? e.g. - any biographical that mentions Shreveport more than twice is presumed not notable unless well-grounded national sources are produced? Icewhiz (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Icewhiz: I have jokingly proposed that there should be a deletion-sort for Louisiana politicians before. I actually started out trying to root out promo articles clearly written by campaigns and taking out similar language that was clearly added by staffers (my career background is mostly in campaign/political communications so maybe I consider it some act of pennance) and I fell into all these articles by Hathorn. Pretty much if there isn't any real claim of notability, such as being involved in a scandal that generates coverage, I'll leave them be but if most of the articles I nominate for deletion are the ones that are very poorly sourced with obits and Google searches and personal assurances from the author. Its also usually easy to find clumps at a time because usually they are all connected via narrow categories or linked into each others pages. Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:13, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Category:Findlay Prep alumni has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Elenora A. Cawthon[edit]

Hi. Per discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Ardis Cawthon, I have created an article on his wife, Elenora. I wanted to let you know, as you submitted that AfD. I'm also pinging another interested editors from that discussion, @RebeccaGreen:. Let me know at the talk page for Elenora if you have any concerns that should be dealt with there. All the best, Smmurphy(Talk) 19:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

@Smmurphy: Looks fine to me, great job. My problem with the article, as is with most by Billy Hathorn, is that the sourcing was so incredibly bad that even if the subject did meet notability standards you'd more or less have to start from scratch with reliable sources to prove it. You did exactly that. Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good. I try not to get drawn into fixing problems like those created by Hathorn. For some reason in this case I decided to try to get involved in a fix. But since creating the article was somewhat contravenant to an AfD, I felt it was ethical to let the AfD submitter (and the other editor interested in fixing the page) know. Smmurphy(Talk) 20:39, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

A goat for you![edit]

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Thanks for your meatpuppet fighting in the EMJ afds.

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@Pythoncoder: No problem. I spent some time in grad school studying fringe-ideology and how they interact online and communicate so and hate when Wikipedia articles are used for promotion so this subject was incredibly in my wheelhouse. At least one of the socks identified another promotional article that is now up for AfD by making an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument so I guess it wasn't a total loss maybe? Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

E.J. Speed moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, E.J. Speed, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@Dreamy Jazz: added source establishing Speed as an NFL draft selection. I'll be building it out over the weekend. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
GPL93, Ok. In future I suggest that before creating/moving to mainspace you have a couple of sources to support what you write. Just so that it isn't sent to deletion etc. before you have properly created the article. I tend to create the draft in my userspace or in draft space first and then move it to mainspace when I think it would survive an AfD. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:49, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Feel free to move it back to mainspace when its ready. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Joe Jackson removal Honorable-mention)[edit]

Hi, why did you remove the honorable-mention from the Infobox ?, these have always been included and should be kept.Tecmo (talk) 14:21, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tecmo: per WP:NFLINFOBOXNOT, honorable mentions aren't included in the infobox. I usually make sure to make note that a player received an honorable mention in his "college career" section, though.

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