User talk:Gavbadger

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Question on bases, and other things[edit]

I was just watching the Colbert Report when I realized that the update of the template might create an interesting issue. Previously, we have either slapped the pages with the airport and structure templates, and then called it a day. Sometimes there would be disagreement about what should be there, but no one was harmed. Now, we have the ability to slap one tag on the page, which is fine for installations that own the runways, but what do you think we should do for Air Guard bases and other installations which are co-located at the installation, but do not operate the installations outright? Should we create a guideline that explains this, because I see no reason why Mansfield Lahm Air National Guard Base should have runway information, while that information is already located on the airport civilian page, and thus would be redundant. @Bwmoll3:, you might also might want to chime in here. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:50, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any problem replicating the airfield information on the Air National Guard base page. However if it's deemed redundant, a hatnote that simply states see: ABCD International Airport for airfield information works for me. Bwmoll3 (talk) 05:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Bwmoll3 however I think we need an extra opinion do you know any one who majorly edit U.S. Air Guard bases or military installations? Gavbadger (talk) 10:28, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Brent does most of it, although a lot of people do snippets here and there. I used to be one of those people in the early days, but now I'm focused on splitting off pages from civilian articles (although I did expand Loring AFB in 2012 to pretty good standards). I suppose we could bring this to MILHIST and see what they want to do. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:20, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

5 Regiment Army Air Corps[edit]

Sorry about that, didn't realize it was a redirect. Hamish59 (talk) 22:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

No need to apologize. the "thank" button is significant for me. Gavbadger (talk) 22:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Question from Foxsch[edit]

Gavbadger Hi. I am hoping that this is the correct method of dropping you a line to pose some puzzlers but I cannot be certain, being such a newcomer to the editor versions of wikipedia. My question(s): I have been adding suggested amendments to talk pages of articles. Recently checking back through the (silent) responses, I realised that portal and project pages also have a form of article watchlists. An example: I have added a suggestion to a talk page. I am reticent to adjust the article, as I have suggested on the talk page, a/ because I am not sure that directly editing a page is advisable without confirmation from a third-party that the edit is acceptable, and b/ I now realise that project/portal articles talks, discussions can also feature on relevant portal/project pages, in this example . Should I edit the appropriate portal/project 'announcement and tasks' areas to highlight the discussions I have raised on talk pages to attract confirmations of accurate edits and further discussion, or is it advisable to go ahead with the edit and watch out for further discussion? Many thanks in advance Foxsch (talk) 18:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Foxsch, if you wish to update the article you may if have a reliable reference to go with it, those sort of the articles which were used by the Americans during the Second World War overseas were mainly created by an editor who created them with the American related info and never touched them again. If you wish to start to a discussion about a individual article the best course of action would be to create a section on the article talk page, leave it for 1-2 days and if no answers take it to the relevant Wikipedia project like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history since the WikiProject talk pages are regularly edited and it would be considerately more viewed. Gavbadger (talk) 18:51, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

That's perfectly clear Gavbadger, thank you. Foxsch (talk) 19:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Ensign in Tidworth Camp article[edit]

Hi - I have toned down the ensign in the infobox in the Tidworth Camp article that I am working on. I note that according to Template talk:Infobox military installation the ensign is "optional" not mandatory. There are few things on wiki where it is mandatory to include it (other than references!). I just think it is a bit garish - just an opinion. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 00:19, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok, but don't touch any of the Royal Air Force articles with a RAF ensign at the top of the infobox without going to the aviation or military history project talk page and discussing the change otherwise I will just revert you. Gavbadger (talk) 00:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - much appreciated. My own view is that the RAF ensigns and navy ensigns look fine - they are not quite so garish as the army red. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:18, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


My father-in-law was stationed at Danby Beacon and elsewhere supporting radar (particularly GEE) during wwII. He might have persona pictures of staff personnel that you'd want for your collection. If so, please drop me an email and tell me how we can send info to you... or I can send you his email address if you want to email directly.

Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for the late reply. The easiest way would be you to upload them yourself to [[1]] where a large amount of images are sourced from for Wikipedia then tell me or someone else or you could add the pictures into Wikipedia. Gavbadger (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

RAF Chelveston[edit]

Apologies for the edit with the |controlledby =. I'm new at this and saw that controlled by being used at other 8th air force bases, and just thought it looked a lot better inside the box as the others were. Actually, those graphics at the top of the infobox seem to be a bit of a clutter, and would look better inside as well somewhere. Just a thought Connor P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor7617 (talkcontribs) 20:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, we do limit the number of files in the top of the infobox to four but most of the time it's only three which are well spaced, I've also added a belated welcome message to your talk page since it appears you've never had one it gives some good info on various bits and bobs. Gavbadger (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I was an editor here like 10 years ago but went off to do other things. I just dabble a bit here.. don't do a lot of heavy editing. Just like to use wikipedia for looking things up and dabble here in some things that I enjoy. I found that the Imperial War Museum released a massive amount of material on the American World War II presence in the UK recently; was going though the materiel and was going though to boost up the existing articles here. I don't want to step on anyone's toes, so I just add photos that are useful and catalog them in commons. Although I do make some occasional edits.
Question: it looks like you're an admin. Is it OK if I go back and standardize the infoboxes? Some are ariports. some are military installations. some are structures. Is there a standard template? Also some of the aireal photos are quite low in contrast. The IWM collection has some really nice and clear ones taken by the RAF and USAAF during the war that would look much better. Chevelston is one I replaced for example.
Again, ty for the welcome :) Connor7617 (talk) 21:05, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm not an admin, I just helped build the new military structure template, the new template is called Template:Infobox military installation a good example is at RAF Alconbury. Gavbadger (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


I am *very* frustrated to see that you've removed all the internal links to the Afghan regional commands of ISAF, which we will now have to put back together. Surely you realise that they have history under the RC titles, links under the RC titles, and expansion to be done under the RC titles, which is made very difficult if you systematically remove all the links? In future, if you ever deal with a major command redesignation again, please familiarise yourself in advance with WP:RCAT (which is what I've just done by recatting Regional Command East under Category:International Security Assistance Force units and formations (Afghanistan)), and WP:NOTBROKEN, because the history of the TAACs may be very different from the RCs that you've just commingled. Better still, ask me first. Finally, one should not just move categories without consultation: that's what WP:CfD is for. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 02:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Gavbadger (talk) 13:51, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


You're welcome and ty :) Connor7617 (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Apply for Autopatrolled Rights?[edit]

Hello, just wanted to say that you have been doing a great job creating articles related to the RAF, but you might want to apply for Autopatrolled rights so you don't spam the new pages feed. Thanks! Winner 42 Talk to me! 22:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

No it's ok thanks, I was only filling in the gaps for the British Naval Air Squadron template and I can't see myself doing anything similar for many years. Gavbadger (talk) 22:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Separate companies[edit]

As per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/722nd_Ordnance_Company_(United_States) and later discussions, including regarding 575th Sigs Company, separate non-combat companies are not considered notable. They should actually all be listed for deletion. The 507th Maint Company due to all its mentions meets GNG though. Buckshot06 (talk) 04:22, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

167 Catering[edit]

Hello, on behalf of 167 Catering Support Regitment RLC we would be greatful if you could delete this page, as it no longer valid.

Thank you.

Hello, instead of deleting the article, it would be much better to update it and add a history section. Gavbadger (talk) 10:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

A page you started (03.011 Fighter Squadron "Corsica") has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating 03.011 Fighter Squadron "Corsica", Gavbadger!

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Season's Greetings[edit]

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To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:07, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

AFM January 2016[edit]

Thankyou for the 60 RS update. What was the listing of squadrons at Lemonnier? Is there any explanation of the extra, new name for the airfield? Cheers and thanks Buckshot06 (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

There was no listing for Lemmonier or anywhere else.
The unit was officially based at Lemmonier but because of Djibouti Govt concerns regarding UAV crashes the unit transitioned to Chabelley Field Airport (which is about 7 miles away and was deserted before the unit arrived). Gavbadger (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

We have lots of new friends[edit]


Good Day,

Thank you for your message. I have an issue with the attribution of the message which begins We have lots of new friends on the Falklands conflict page.

I worked for Cable and Wireless as an Engineer at the time and was the one who typed the message. It's always been wrong on Wiki. I am trying to put it right more for my children than anything.

mentions this is this a suitable citation.

Grateful for any help or assistance you can give.

Kind regards

Charles KeenleysideCharlesk1953 (talk) 19:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the delay, I've been working on Royal Air Force aircraft ferrying units making multiple edits on a single article so I didn't notice the message alert.
The BBC news article doesn't have any relevant times or anything more than "The newsroom had Argentine claims, but nothing else apart from a laconic message from the Cable and Wireless station on the Falklands - "we have a lot of new friends"." which doesn't help much.
I have found this though [2], the website isn't reliable but it does say "this text is taken from Marshall Cavendish’s comprehensive compendium, ‘The Falklands War’" so I'm looking through bookshop websites to see if they have any online sneak peeks to see if any books have your name but I'm not having much luck, Amazon are normally really good but not this time unfortunately.
Gavbadger (talk) 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Friendly talk page stalker, I wouldn't rely on The Falklands War: A Day By Day Account From Invasion To Victory by Marshall Cavendish. Following the war Marshall Cavendish produced a 14 part, get it weekly compendium, describing the war day by day. To be frank, its crap, really shoddy journalism and full of mistakes. The content of the article didn't match the source, so it has been copy edited to reflect the source. I have tried a few sources eg the Official History by Lawrence Freedman but no luck so far. WCMemail 21:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
WCM, I had look through about 12 different books on Amazon using the book preview and couldn't find anything. Although the only preview they showed most of the time was just the history of the falklands going back hundreds of years and the same general maps of the falklands. Gavbadger (talk) 21:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I've got quite a few books, I'll try and spend some time tomorrow and see if I can dig something up. WCMemail 21:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled right[edit]

Just so you know (if you have not already been pinged), I nominated you for the Autopatrol user right here. I figure you might have some use for it, since you have created so many pages, and military articles are not controversial for the most part. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 07:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted[edit]

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Hi Gavbadger, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! MusikAnimal talk 21:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Op Granby[edit]

I think I used these sites

you can add the links.Phd8511 (talk) 12:49, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Gavbadger (talk) 15:44, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Barnbow munitions factory page[edit]

I'm not sure if you'are the person to pass this on to but the above page claims that "Barnbow was Britain's top shell factory between 1914 and 1918, and by the end of the war on 11 November 1918, a total of 566,000 tons of ammunition had been shipped overseas." Chilwell filling factory's memorial quotes over 1 million tons filled so maybe a small edit is in order.

        Mark Wilson  — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC) 

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For all the hard work adding referenced information to HMS Gannet (stone frigate). Great work!! Buckshot06 (talk) 19:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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No 1 Radio School[edit]


I appreciate that you have taken an interest in the school and your concern is noted.

The changes I have made are legitimate. I am updating the page to reflect the current situation at the school, in a more official capacity.

I am at present, updating the page on behalf of the schools Officer Commanding, so will be making more changes in the not so distant future. The information that will be placed on the page will be relevant, and will not be harmful in any respect.

Again, thanks for your concern.

gbinfi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbinfi (talkcontribs) 13:25, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not allow any original research (see Wikipedia:No original research) so you will need reliable independent references for all information you add (see Wikipedia:Verifiability).
Good Luck
Gavbadger (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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UTRS appeal #16540 was submitted on Sep 15, 2016 17:15:08. This review is now closed.

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Gavbadger, per policy I can't tell you more than you already know from the UTRS appeal, but I have changed your rights to be IP exempt. Let me know if you still have problems. Sorry for the inconvenience.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Will do, thank you very much!! Gavbadger (talk) 21:27, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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