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question regarding your weblog[edit]

Hi, Liz. I wanted to drop you a line in regards to something on your weblog, but found that there wasn't an email address there, nor here. Do you suppose you could email me? ... aa:talk 01:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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SF meetup 3[edit]

If you're interested in the next meetup, we have a new page for it: Wikipedia:Meetup/San Francisco 3 Georgewilliamherbert 20:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

I like your userpage. Hope to see more of your edits around! --Grrrlriot (talk) 00:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Your censorship of Abelard talk page material[edit]

Look, how can I put this without ending up with a mass of howling feminazis on my doorsteps, hissing hexes and baying for my blood? I see that you are a champion of wimmin poetry, and wimmin writing, and wimmin this and wimmin that. That’s good. One day all of us pesky men will go to the moon, and let you gals run everything down here, and I’m sure all of us will agree that the world will be like unto a Garden of Eden, and all war and animosity will, like, just disappear once the dames are running the joint. But until then, might I remind you that Men still hold up half the sky. Dear Lizzard, while you might be the biggest fan of all things female, let me remind you that you do not, repeat NOT, actually OWN the subject of women. Any old poster, whether they be bequeathed a Charlie or a Chapel, can just write stuff on any subject they so choose to do, and should not be subjected to some nouveau Stalin who gets out the pinking shears whenever they read something that does not measure up to their strangulated world view.

You probably never expected to read this, did you? One of those nasty testosterone-driven men coming back at you and giving you a bit of lip? Well, here it is. NEWS FLASH: I have as much right to post on female subjects as do you. So please don’t censor my stuff. I see you are women of cultivated sensibilities and keen intellect. NEW FLASH: So am I. Please leave my posts alone. Notthere (talk) 06:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I deleted material that was inappropriate for a talk page, ie, a creative writing exercise in pornographic fantasy about "birching" about historical figures.
I will report your anti-feminist ranting and harassment on my talk page and to Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts. --Lizzard (talk) 07:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Notthere back. Some admin who rejoices in the sobriquet Orbis 3 has stepped in and made an executive decision in this long-running dispute re: my comments concerning Heloise’s bottom, whiter shade of pale, or not quite so. I’m satisfied with it, so I hope you can put DEFCON on amber again. (See section 13 on talk page for Abelard article on WP) I for one have “moved on”, and to show you that I can walk on the wild side mylself I will shortly direct you to a new piece I am composing concerning a truly amazing lady. When you see and read it, you will only be able to gasp: “God, why couldn’t one of the sisterhood have written this? Why did it have to be a man, and if a man, why that mongrel Notthere?. Why!? Why!!??” Notthere (talk) 03:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Feminism Task Force[edit]

Hello! I've seen you around Wikipedia and I've noticed that you joined my category "Wikipedians interested in feminism". I just wanted to let you know that you might be interested in this. Hope to see you around more and happy editing! :) --Grrrlriot (talk) 20:46, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Invitation[edit]

Womanpower logo.svg Hello Geeklizzard, thank you for your contributions on articles related to Feminism. I'd like to invite you to become a part of Feminism Task Force, a WikiProject aimed at improving the quality of articles dealing with gender studies related articles on Wikipedia.

If you would like to participate, please visit the Feminism Task Force page for more information. Feel free to sign your name under "Participants". Thanks!

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Western commerce, industry and technologies[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Silhak --RisingSunWiki 22:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Greg-winking.jpg[edit]

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Not sure what to do here. I emailed J. Milburn directly and the person who took the photo did too, at the time. Guess now that I've noticed it still isn't there, I'll put it up again. Lizzard (talk) 05:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Wheelchair discussion[edit]

Hi there. I replied to you and Vicki on my talk page. I also read your post here. I frown upon off-wiki campaigning for reasons of transparency, but as far as those go, this was pretty innocent (it kind of makes you look like the PC police though).--Atlan (talk) 09:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, it wasn't like I was exhorting people to pile on one article or page for some kind of petty revert war. It was an open public call for people to come and edit about a subject we care about. I don't think objecting to an offensive term that affects me in my actual everyday oppression can be "pc police", either. For example, if an article on Hillary Clinton described her with a misogynist term, wouldn't you think that should be edited out for reasons of not being at all relevant or accurate? Would you think it fine to refer to a person of color with a derogatory and out of date term? It is the same in my eyes. It is not "encyclopediac" or good journalistic practice to be offensive. For example, here is a style guide from The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sustainability/guardian-style-guide and a quote from it:

...what we publish should reflect the traditions of tolerance and fairness that we hold dear. You will not find the Guardian or Observer writing about "bogus asylum seekers" or "black-on-black violence". Disabled people (not "the disabled") are not "wheelchair-bound" and people with learning disabilities are not "handicapped". Nor will you find stories about ""career girls" or "battling grannies". We avoid racist, sexist and other inappropriate language not to be "politically correct" but to put our beliefs into practice in the most important work we do - reporting.

Thanks for listening and I hope you can see the politics of language as something non-trivial. Why trivialize the meaning of language and word choice by calling it "pc police"? We're building something made of words -- and the words we choose are important. --Lizzard (talk) 03:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, as I said, I will endeavor to change the language of wheelchair related text to something we can all agree on. I will do this on the articles I edited previously and to any I encounter while editing the encyclopedia. As for the "pc police" comment: It was purely based on the one blog comment. "A bunch of us are swarming Wikipedia [to remove all instances of wheelchair bound]" just gives the wrong impression. A better course of action would be to discuss it on Wikipedia beforehand (much like we are doing now). Anyway, that's water under the bridge and no harm was done. See you around.--Atlan (talk) 07:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Photo of Greg Hall[edit]

Taking a look at the permission email you sent, I'm afraid that is not enough. I have replied to your email with further details. J Milburn (talk) 08:19, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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WikiProject Feminism[edit]

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Wiki etiquette alert[edit]

I have opened a wiki etiquette alert re your editing on the Anders talk page here: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Repeated_failures_to_assume_good_faith_and_abusive_blanking_of_sections_of_talk_page Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Research survey invitation[edit]

Greetings Geeklizzard-

My name is Randall Livingstone, and I am a doctoral student at the University of Oregon, studying digital media and online community. I am posting to invite you to participate in my research study exploring the work of Wikipedia editors who are members of WikiProject: Countering Systemic Bias. The online survey should take 20 to 25 minutes to complete and can be found here:

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Your responses will help online communication researchers like me to better understand the collaborations, challenges, and purposeful work of Wikipedia editors like you. In addition, at the end of the survey you will have the opportunity to express your interest in a follow-up online interview with the researcher.

This research project has been reviewed and approved by the Wikimedia Research Committee as well as the Office for Protection of Human Subjects at the University of Oregon. For a detailed description of the project, please visit its Meta page. This survey is voluntary, and your confidentiality will be protected. You will have the choice of using your Wikipedia User Name during the research or creating a unique pseudonym. You may skip any question you choose, and you may withdraw at any time. By completing the survey, you are providing consent to participate in the research.

If you have any questions about the study, please contact me via my Talk Page (UOJComm) or via email. My faculty advisor is Dr. Ryan Light. If you have any questions regarding your rights as a research participant, please contact the Office for Protection of Human Subjects at the University of Oregon.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

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A brownie for you![edit]

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WikiWomen's Collaborative[edit]

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As a WikiWoman, we'd love to have you involved! You can do this by:

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Can't wait to have you involved! SarahStierch (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library![edit]

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Hey Geeklizzard! I'm so happy you've signed up for the WDL project. Welcome! I noticed you're interested in Latin American content, including Venezuela. I built out a to-do list for Latin American here. Be sure to book mark it, as it'll be added to as more content is released to the WDL website (monthly). If I can help with anything, just ask. I do look forward to following your outcomes and please share them on the outcomes page. Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia! SarahStierch (talk) 16:53, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

World Digital Library-Wikimedia Partnership Newsletter[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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Thanks for your improvements to Tookoolito![edit]

Thanks very much for your improvements to Tookoolito. I did change the section headers back just a bit, in hopes that these would clarify the extent of each of Hall's Arctic forays. You've inspired me to take a fresh look at this article and see if there are still other ways it cane be improved. Clevelander96 (talk) 17:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

You're invited: Art & Feminism Edit-a-thon[edit]

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WWUCB Berkeley Meetup[edit]

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Hope that some of the negative drama stuff going down at the NB Space hasn't affected your other productive activities. In regards to your 22:45 13 March 2014 (UTC) post on the WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon at University of California, Berkeley for your own online participation in this event, What are your thoughts about inviting to this other accomplished women associated with both Noisebridge and the East Bay's SudoRoom? E.g., Romy Ilano @romyilano and/or Naomi Most @nthmost ??

Unfortunately, although I myself am more local to the Cal campus and Sudo Room than I am to Noisebridge, afraid that I myself couldn't contribute to this WikiWomen Edit-a-thon either beforehand or on its scheduled date of Saturday, April 5.

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AdaCamp Awesomeness Award[edit]

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WikiProject Women writers Invitation[edit]

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You're invited! Litquake Edit-a-thon in San Francisco[edit]

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You're invited! Women in Red World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Science[edit]

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April Fools? Nope! Welcome to the Women Scientists worldwide online edit-a-thon during Year of Science[edit]

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About Women[edit]

Hi Geeklizzard. I'm an editor (not very active till now) of the Italian Wikipedia, where the gender gap is a real issue. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks, --Kenzia (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

You are invited to the Bay Area WikiSalon kickoff[edit]

Liz, Sorry if this is a duplicate. Please spread the word.

Please join us for our first Bay Area WikiSalon!
A Wikipedia panel discussion about journalism

We have two brief presentations lined up for our kickoff event at the Wikimedia Foundation offices in downtown San Francisco:

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Wi-Fi is available. Newcomers are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! The doors open promptly at 6:00 pm. We will have beverages and light snacks, provided by Wiki Strategies, Ben Creasy, and Wayne Calhoon.

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on this point.

For further details, see here.

Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Contests[edit]

User:Dr. Blofeld has created Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. Mdann52 (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Scale of justice 2.svg Hello, Geeklizzard. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Attention: WikiProject African diaspora participants[edit]

Hello fellow project participants. Not sure how many users are still active as normal Wikipedia editors but felt the need to attempt to get a gauge on who can be called on for help with articles falling under the umbrella of the African diaspora project. According to the project's article table there are over six thousand articles related to the African diaspora; there's not a hundred at FA/GA grade and there's over twelve hundred that are unassessed. With Wikipedia being one of the major information reference points in the world today we should consider this unacceptable. Much work needs to be done on the rating of the importance of articles as well. With more communication amongst participants and a dedication to addressing the articles on the to-do list I believe we can make this WikiProject one of the most well organized and thorough on the site. If you are interested in collaborative work with some of your fellow project members, have certain expertise on any particular subjects, ideals on/about the WikiProject, etc. simply drop your name under the "Project revision" section I've created on the project's talk page and state your intentions and main points of interest in our WikiProject and we can attempt to move forward from there. Hoping to hear from everyone soon! WikiGuy86 (talk) 03:29, 24 April 2017 (UTC)