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Beavertail Cactus[edit]

Thanks for your corrections on Beavertail Cactus and related pages. As you might have suspected, I just created the page for the image I took. ;-) --snoyes 07:41, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Cultivar[edit]

Hi I reverted your deletion at Cultivar, on the grounds that the opening sentences of a good Wikipedia entry should answer the question: "Huh? What's that?" It's good to be obvious at the start, dull to be too obvious later on. Hope you agree. But if you really feel the phrase should stay deleted, delete it again and I'll leave it be! Wetman 04:25, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Gasterosteidae[edit]

Hi Gerard-- thanks for the nice picture on Gasterosteidae. Is it free and clear to use elsewhere in Wikipedia? I'd like to put it also on the new three-spined stickleback page. I see you have included a photo credit: is it a condition of use that this should also be included? If so, could you put a note of this on the picture's talk page, please (you get there just by double-clicking the image), so people know? thanks. seglea 17:11, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hoi, yes you can use it on the three-spined stickleback page. No, you do not NEED to but as we have been given a lot of great quality pictures taken while diving, it would be nice to keep the credit in. There is a nl:Driedoornige stekelbaars page so you can link to that one. I have a great photo of an Atlantic cod as well that I may use. I am doing the last fishes that can be found in the sweet waters of the Netherlands and Belgium. So if you are interested you may find pictures if you follow the link to "Lijst van zoetwatervissen in de Benelux" on nl:wikipedia.
Have fun, GerardM 20:23, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Tree of Life[edit]

In the ToL discussion you stated that things were worse in the past, enlighten me please: how is it better? I am open for arguments I just need to hear them. GerardM 16:49, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It's not that it was wrong, but it was less convenient. The advantage of having the descendant list in the taxobox is that it lets a person view both the information about the group in question and the list of its children at the same time, without having to scroll down or go through a link. This makes it easier to navigate through different groups, since paths up and down are right there instead of hidden somewhere in the article body, and it can help recognize the group in question, since at a glance one receives both a description and a list of examples.

In some cases, this is the only value the taxobox has. For many protists, the position is to arbitrary and variable to make it worth giving on its own. And for high-level groups like mollusc, heterokont, and flowering plant, all the placement box tells you is that they're a phylum or division of such-and-such a kingdom, which you can figure out by looking at the first line of the text.

I'm very aware that descendant lists can't always be given, but then neither can range maps. It shouldn't stop us from deriving value from them when we can, unless there are disadvantages to using them. So far, I've seen a few positives and no real negatives. -- Josh

Hi Gerard. Excuse my long silence. I've been away again - lately, I seem to spend every spare weekend travelling in search of yet more wildlife pictures - and then had web connection problems. So maybe, after the passage of several days, there isn't much to say now! No matter. See you pn the fauna pages. Best wishes -- Tony (Tannin)

Deletion tips.[edit]

Image:Persepolis1.JPG Image:Persepolis2.JPG both have been replaced with pictures under a different name. NB I had tried to upload the pictures under the same name, but that did not work. GerardM 06:24, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Then simply edit their image pages and post this code: {{msg:delete}} along with an explainer on the TALK page on why you want a deletion and a sysop will remove it for you. No need to post on VFD. and good job on the pictures. Davodd 09:38, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Heron taxonomy[edit]

Heron taxonomy is a mess, and none more so than Great Egret (=Great White Egret = White Heron =Kokuku]], Ardea alba or Egretta alba or Casmoderius alba. For the sake of consistency, Wikipedia species' lists follow Handbook of the Birds of the World. Otherwise, as you can imagine, the articles would be impossible to organise in any logical way. I'll note the alterative scientific names. jimfbleak

taxoboxes and translation[edit]

Good idea about the {{msg}} entries for taxons - that should indeed ease translation. BTW, the English for zoetwater is "freshwater", not "sweetwater"; the latter word does not exist in English. seglea 05:05, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Ruffe[edit]

You've had a {{msg:inuse}} tag on Ruffe for nearly 2 weeks with no edits. You might want to take it down. -- Cyrius|&#9998 02:50, Apr 5, 2004 (UTC)

Persepolis thumbnails[edit]

When you reverted my thumbnailing on Persepolis, you gave the reason "Thumbs are a bad idea as long as they do not a "media"". Unfortunately, I can't quite figure out what you mean here. Why are thumbs a bad idea? They are a standardized way of letting the user know that there's a bigger verison to be had by clicking on the image, I can't see a good reason not to use them here. Bryan 07:25, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Thumbs may be standardised, but the implementation of the enlargement is by providing the detail page. When a picture is too big it will not fit as with the Persepolis pictures. On the detail page, there is a button that says something like "Persepolis1.JPG", this will do what the "media" keyword does for you; fit the picture on the screen.
Therefore, for small pictures thumbs may be OKish for large pictures they are not. GerardM 07:38, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

wiktionary message translation[edit]

Velen dank voor dat! +sj+ 07:51, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ford Ka pictures[edit]

The reason I cropped was simply that the picture showed a lot of background relative to the car -- meaning that if shrunk to a reasonable download size in the page, the car would be too tiny.

I don't quite understand not liking going to the detail page when clicking on a thumbnail - why? The same image shows ... is it an aesthetic preference?

Would you rather in future I put a cropped version up under a different filename and then linked to the original, uncropped version? —Morven 20:40, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)

First of all I prefer you NOT to crop pictures. The consequence of cropping is that a high quality picture is replaced by a less quality picture. Then I would also prefer the thumb technology not to provide the detail page of a picture, I prefer the thumb to produce the "media" quality. (media being a keyword).
It is not only aesthetic but also; if you want to see an enlarged picture, you do not necessaraly want to see the details. They are not really relevant. With a media implementation, you get the best view your monitor can produce even when the picture exceeds the size of your monitot. GerardM 14:14, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hybrids[edit]

Hi Gerard--wonder if you could help me with something? In writing about dog hybrids and crossbreeds I used the word 'cultivar', which I learned from the hybrid article. Sounded like a really useful and descriptive word for my purposes. However, the article at cultivar indicates that the word is exclusively used for plant varieties. I need to know if it can be used to describe animals as well or if I should go amend the dog hybrid article for accuracy.

Also, there are a couple more questions at Talk:Hybrid. Thanks! Quill 20:58, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Many cultivars are one offs and are not propagated in a sexual way; they are most often clones. This is not applicable to animals. It is one reason if not the reason why animals do not have cultivars. GerardM 22:03, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thanks--I'll change it! Quill 22:48, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Internationalizing taxoboxes[edit]

Following on from the mailing list discussion, I was thinking about how to internationalize the templates and their values.

Currently we have something like:

<nowiki>{{Taxobox_begin | color=pink | name=Blue Whale}}<br />{{StatusEndangered}}
{{Taxobox_image | image = [[Image:Bluewhale877.jpg|250px]] | caption = }}
{{Taxobox_begin_placement | color = pink}}
{{Taxobox_regnum_entry | taxon = [[Animal]]ia}}
{{Taxobox_phylum_entry | taxon = [[Chordate|Chordata]]}}
{{Taxobox_classis_entry | taxon = [[Mammal|Mammalia]]}}
{{Taxobox_ordo_entry | taxon = [[Cetacea]]}}
{{Taxobox_subordo_entry | taxon = [[Mysticeti]]}}
{{Taxobox_familia_entry | taxon = [[Balaenoptiidae]]}}
{{Taxobox_genus_entry | taxon = '''Balaenoptera'''}}
{{Taxobox_species_entry | taxon = '''musculus'''}}
{{Taxobox_end_placement}}
{{Taxobox_section_binomial | color = pink | binomial_name = Balaenoptera musculus | author=[[Carolus Linnaeus|Linnaeus]] | date = [[1758]]}}
[[Image:cetacea_range_map_Blue_Whale_2.PNG|thumb|none|250px|Blue Whale range]]
{{Taxobox_end}}
</nowiki>

Typically the problematic bits are the section

{{Taxobox_regnum_entry | taxon = [[Animal]]ia}} {{Taxobox_phylum_entry | taxon = [[Chordate|Chordata]]}} {{Taxobox_classis_entry | taxon = [[Mammal|Mammalia]]}}

where we are piping from the latin to the vernacular spelling.

How about we put this section into another template, Template:Taxobox_mammalia say, and insert that into all mammal articles?

Advantages :

  • Other language wikipedias copying articles will only need to translate this template once rather than translating [[Animal]]ia etc. over and over again.
  • Reduces the amount of repititve code in every article
  • If we want to change the taxonomy (e.g. inserting vertebrata and tetrapoda as the subphylum and infraphylum) we could do this easily. This might actually be useful - there are so many different ways of describing the top of the tree

Disadvantages:

  • We would need a new template for each class.
    • However I think this is not too bad a disadvantage because:
      • There are not *that* many classes, particularly well-populated classes
      • The template naming convention {{Taxobox_CLASS_NAME}} is intuitive and copyable.
      • We don't need to do this as far down as orders, because people tend to use proper scientific names rather than pipe to common names that far down the tree.

What do you think?

The problem with the suggested animalia etc message, is that there would be a need for *many* such messages and this makes it just to much particularly on smaller wikipedias. Ease of adoption is the key thing to make it usable and used.

Taxoboxes and internationalisation[edit]

Given the discussions on wikipedia-I I was thinking along different lines:

  • The taxoboxes will be copied to WikiSpecies. (technically this can be WikiCommons; from a technical point of vieuw the destinction is immaterial.
  • The copying from en: will be done by a bot. Each moved taxobox will be linked to the en:article by the bot and the other links for the other languages.
  • A Wikispecies taxobox will when called provide the standard latin name when called upon. The function will be called from within a wikipedia and have as a parameter optional vernacular names. The vernacular name will be local to the wikipedia or alternatively the interwiki will be used for the vernacular name; along these lines [[en:badger {animal}|badger]]. The taxobox will then show both the latin name and seperately the vernacular name.
  • A Wikispecies taxobox can be generated (within Wikispecies) for each known taxon irrespective of there being an article in any wikipedia.
  • Something has to be done for names that have not been validly published (a salesman trick); do we have a taxobox for them as well ?? A joke example nl: example "Penis aqua-rosa".
  • As far as I know a template exists for each taxon.

One thing not discussed is, what do we want to see in a Taxobox. There has to be discussion about this with the fr: de: and other folks. The best place would be meta. GerardM 09:11, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Mammillaria sensu Reppenhagen[edit]

Hoi, Two things, there is a Wikispecies mailinglist, because of the subjectmatter largely being like ToL, it could be used for ToL stuff as well. When it is made clear that ToL people of all nationalities are welcome on this list, it would converge things, which would be welcome.

It would. In general my preference would be to keep discussion on the wiki itself, so that it will be open to the entire community. This is possibly a minority view, though, and in this case there will be people interested in coordinating standards but not in the new project. Either way I think it is extremely important to make sure everyone knows what is going on and that they are welcome to contribute, since there has been very little communication so far.

Have you had a look at the article Mammillaria sensu Reppenhagen on Wikispecies ? I really welcome comments. There would be similare pages like Mammillaria sensu Luthy.. Thanks, GerardM 16:44, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think it's the first worthwhile suggestion on how wikispecies might work, but as it stands probably isn't something we can follow in general. I can see two main problems.

The first is duplication. The entries on Mammalia carnea will have to mention that Reppenhagen included the former species Mammalia subtetragona, so this information shouldn't be repeated in entries on the genus. Many large groups have been subdivided in radically different ways, and listing all the correspondences between them will be much more difficult if we insist in doing it in the higher level entries. Similarly, when some minor group is transferred between pre-existing animal phyla, there's no reason the entries on the kingdom need to pont this out.

Second, there needs to be a way to relate different versions of the same group. A classification of the insects will typically include the family Formicidae, but rarely attach itself to a particular version of their subdivision. For the Euglenozoa test entry I simply listed all the different versions together, but this can quickly become impractical. It would be nice if there were a way of moving around within a single system. I'm not really sure how to make this work, though. Incidentally, anything sensu so-and-so should definitely include a date, since authors often make multiple revisions, and probably a citation of the original publication when possible.

By the way, this discussion should probably be moved to the wikispecies community page, so everyone can offer their opinion. Or possibly it should go on the mailing list?

Thanks, Josh 08:02, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I had hoped that you would copy it to WikiSpecies, today I have.. GerardM 07:41, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wikinews demo up and running[edit]

Hi!

I'm writing to let you know that the Wikimedia Board of Trustees has approved the first stage of the Wikinews project. There's now a fully operational English demo site at demo.wikinews.org. This will be used for experimenting with various review models and basic policies before the site is launched officially in about a week. demo.wikinews.org will become the English version later.

You voted for the Wikinews project, so I'm asking for your participation now. Everything is open, nothing is final. What Wikinews will and can be depends in large part on you. There already is a global Wikinews mailing list for discussing the project. If you are interested at all, please subscribe -- coordination is of key importance. There's also an IRC channel #wikinews on irc.freenode.net. Realtime discussion can help to polish up articles.

If you're looking for something to do, check out the articles in development and articles in review. Or start a new story in the Wikinews workspace, or ignore the proposed review system - it's up to you. I hope you'll join us soon in this exciting experiment.--Eloquence* 01:59, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Image:Gymnocephalus cernuus.jpg[edit]

Greetings! I was wondering if you could clarify the licensing on Image:Gymnocephalus cernuus.jpg. On the Dutch page, you quote the photographer:

Begrijp mij niet verkeerd. Ik vind het hartstikke mooi wat jullie doen en ik wil graag mijn bijdrage leveren, maar ik kan nog niet zo goed inschatten of men er op zit te wachten. Uiteraard neem ik aan dat jullie daar onderzoek naar gedaan hebben en er zeker in geloven. En als ik het zo bekijk ontbreekt het wel aan plaatjes en je weet "een foto zegt meer dan 1000 woorden" Dus ga gerust je gang, maak er iets moois van.

I can't read Dutch (and Babelfish is no help on this one); can you provide an English translation of this? Are these GFDL-compatible terms? Thanks. —Tkinias 02:23, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It is the photograher giving his blessing for us to use it. I have contact with the man every now again. With proper creditation, the usage is fine.

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Image license[edit]

Hi! Thanks for uploading Image:Dreissena polymorpha.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}}{{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}}{{Fairuse}}if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you.

If you uploaded other images, please clarify copyright for them as well, otherwise the images will eventually be deleted.

Thanks, Denni 01:39, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

The license is that it can be used by wikimedia projects as long as the original photographer is recognised. (see nl:wikipedia. GerardM 18:42, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Netherlands[edit]

Why did you, on the subject of "The Netherlands vs Holland" on the Netherlands page, remove the qualification "incorrect" from the use of "England" for the United Kingdom? Aliter 23:09, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

When you say that it is similar, you imply that people are aware of the other situations. In the next sentence it is also mentioned that some object so it is redundant. GerardM 10:40, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

While "similar" does imply that knowledge, "incorrect" explained the situation for those lacking it. By removing that explanation, the entire reference is implied, which means it should be removed and replaced by an explanation of the actual meaning, history, etc.. This can also be seen from the next sentence where "other parts" has now become a very weak reference, as it's now based on indirect implied information only. (Wouldn't the anti-holland sentiments be largely a matter of - the city versus the country?) Aliter 17:27, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Not really, Holland are two provinces that was the centre of gravity both cultural, economic and political from the start. There is plenty of country in the old Holland. So reducing it to city vs country is too simplistic. GerardM 10:37, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Please tame your WikTIONARY bot[edit]

GerardM, your bot on wiktionary is not marked as a bot! Recent changes is still getting flooded...please fix!

IFAP cheer[edit]

Hi Gerard,

I didn't mean to snap at you earlier on IRC. If I could understand how your grant proposal might fit the requirements, I would love to help you with it :-) As it is, I am annoyed that you are not addressing that crucial issue. It doesn't matter how good a proposal is if it doesn't suite the grant. +sj + 22:51, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:zilverr.jpg[edit]

Image deletion warning The image Image:zilverr.jpg has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/Unverified orphans because it lacks source and license information, and it is not used in any articles. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion.
Can you update the image page with the English translation of the licensing info. found in nl:Afbeelding:Zilverr.jpg: "zilverreiger open bron/ parkservice"? This would help us decide whether to delete the image (e.g. copyvio or obsolete) or move to commons or take some other steps (The English article Great Egret has many other images so this probably would not get added to the article). Thanks! -- Paddu 05:56, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sound files[edit]

It's just not a direction I want to see Wikipedia go. Wikipedia is an open system, I'm allowed to disagree in the early stages of an experiment. Why? It should be a separate Wiki project since it will never end and will clutter every article. Plus, it's an obvious place for more sophisticated forms of vandalism. Separate project. Separate site. Daniel Quinlan 19:09, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

You do not want to see it happen... And suggest that it is a different project what would that project be ? And why would it be seen as clutter ? Because it IS an open system and because it adds information that we currently do not hold and as it introduces the concept of words that cannot be pronounced when the origin is a different language. I think it makes excellent sense to have this.
I fail to see what kind of vandalism it could spark .. GerardM 11:13, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image:Arab-league1.JPG[edit]

I have listed this image you have uploaded on images for deletion because it's now obsolete. Jeltz talk 11:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Translation Systems[edit]

These folks might be handy to stay in touch with:

  • User:taw : A clever fellow who likes coding stuff, and has done some translation coding before
  • User:PZFUN : Next to being a photographer (:-P), also knows as many langauges as frodo has fingers.. He lives in brussels, and he enjoys visiting the Netherlands regularly.

I've asked PZFUN to help you out already, and he says he'll at least listen to you :-)

Kim Bruning 19:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

www2.dict.cc[edit]

Spotted on IRC:

(PZFUN) kim_bruning > You should tell Gerard to look at www2.dict.cc

Kim Bruning 18:08, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

sent some linguists at you with wild stories[edit]

Just wanted to warn you that I told some linguists about ultimate wiktionary.

See if you can manage to get things set up for to work with these folks. They might need grants to work though ^^;; This might increse your workload immeasurably, or might even prove to be impossible .

But they're actual linguists on wikipedia. And who knows. :)

Kim Bruning 22:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikimania[edit]

Elian suggested you might be going to Wikimania from Amsterdam. I am trying to plan my trip, and was thinking of flying into Amsterdam, spending a few days there, and then making my way down to Frankfurt. Was wondering if you had any thoughts on the best way to do this: plane or train? Is there a discount airline that makes that trip? If by train, are tickets available on short notice or would I need to purchase them in advance? Are buses on option?

No idea if you would know any of this, but if you happen to have any advice for me I would be grateful - TimShell 13:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

WikiData[edit]

Hello, do you have any news on the progress of WikiData? Best, Benedikt (http://species.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Benedikt)

Thanks for the lift![edit]

Happened to see your username on one of the discussions somewhere, so I just wanted to thank you again for the ride from Wikimania. Take care! --Luke Bales 21:29, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Sectio[edit]

Template:Sectio has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Sectio. Thank you. Who?¿? 09:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Image:Dreissena polymorpha.jpg[edit]

Hi. Could you please add a tag to Image:Dreissena polymorpha.jpg? I don't know Dutch, so I suggest you add the suitable tag yourself. I added the tag "permission" since you wrote "used with permission" in your edit summary. Change as needed / Fred-Chess 00:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Eugene van der Pijll says the tag on this image on the Dutch Wikipedia is interpreted by nl.wikipedians as "permission for wikipedia only" not GFDL. This image will be deleted unless you can substantiate the copyright holder is allowing release under GFDL -Thanks Nv8200p talk 16:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
A person has added information that is incorrect. It is not Wikipedia only, the requirement is that proper attribution is given by refering to the original site. They guy who added these tages is wrong and interprets what the photographer said in a way that he did not. GerardM 08:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic cleansing[edit]

You said: This is about early usage of the term the persons are Croat, so are you, they may be unknown but does that make the sourc irrelevant ?? Yes, it does. And I'm not going to search archives to prove to you that the term cleansing or cleaning (NOT ethnic cleansing) was used for people a zillion times throughout human history, because it's just basic logic. You're suggesting I'm biased because of my nationality. That's low. If the fact that I'm a Croat is relevant, so is the fact that the people who posted those examples are Serbs. Also, you could find this article useful: Ad hominem. --Zmaj 08:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Guppy[edit]

A long time ago you added information to the article regarding the size of guppies living in the cooling water of Corus Steelmill near IJmuiden. I was wondering if you had any references related to that fact. Thanks. Guettarda 16:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I have been looking for some English text does this suffice ? GerardM 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually that appears to be a Wikipedia mirror :) - the format is identical to older versions of the article. If you have a reference in Dutch that's fine - I can probably struggle through enough to get the gist of it. It isn't that I doubt the veracity - it's just that I was having a hard time finding anything that was not a Wikipedia mirror. Guettarda 17:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

re: Ecademy[edit]

Firstly, it is Ecademy, not eCademy.

Secondly, you are a member of Ecademy - http://www.ecademy.com/account.php?id=99835, so saying you are not is simply a lie.

Thirdly, you were attending a meeting with Thomas Power when the original article was written, so I hardly think you are qualified to decide what is NPOV.

Ste 22:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
You are a member in eCademy when you pay for the priviledge and I do not. You calling others a liar is given the situation not really helpfull. Furthermore, the article that can be read I have written in Hoorn and not in Amsterdam. So what is the substance of what you are saying?
The fact that I have met Thomas Power allowed me to give him and the eCademy community the challenge to start with a truly bare boned article and have his community improve on it with the challenge to keep it NPOV and not marketing. This may be difficult to appreciate then again POV warriors are blinded by the wearing of their own particular blinkers. GerardM 07:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
GeerdM - thanks for putting up an eCademy page. You have to accept the positive and negative views with everything, particularly some of the upset of ex-members, excluded because they broke eCademy rules. I agree with your blinkered comment above, but also perhaps their energetic approach to this issue also shows a need to rejoin the platform? Certainly the platform has changed, and some personal views of early days would not fit with the more market developed ethos today - particularly in light of international expansion. I started a mediation case a few days ago to find agreement between all view points, you can find it here [1] - and made some adjustments this morning to the page in light of a Wiki Editors comments to the meditaion request. Your input would be appreciated - Thank You --Trident13 08:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for voting in my RfA![edit]

<grin> Another person for whom voting is evil! thanks for voting in my RfA, it's much appreciated. The nomination did not gain consensus, but I'm glad I accepted. - Amgine 20:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Structured data, mediawiki, and WikiData[edit]

Where can I get information about the findings of the WikiData project? I am interested in using mediawiki with structured data and your experience with WikiData would be a tremendous benefit. Thx, Oz.[2]

Development of Wikidata is part of the WiktionaryZ project. We currently have over 250 users and we use at this moment ISO-639-3 exclusively to indicate languages. GerardM 06:32, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Das.jpg[edit]

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This media may be deleted.

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To make this a bit clearer, the Dutch Wikipedia says it came from the English Wikipedia. At no point do I see a URL to an NPS site (besides, the Dutch Wikipedia says it's an American badger, not a Eurasian badger). Regards, howcheng {chat} 19:30, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

WiktionaryZ[edit]

Hello, I'm from Polish Wiktionary. I noticed nasty accidemt, which'd taken place there. I'm sorry about that IP's comments and hope, it won't make wiki-relationship worse. If you want to contact me, please do it here. Greetings Paweł ze Szczecina 12:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help bro[edit]

Thanks for the help with the translation bro , I corrected a wrong edit I made on the article on Kelly Van Der Veer earlier on the basis of this. :)

Unitedroad 11:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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Request for review on article....[edit]

Hi Gerard - I hope this finds you well! As the nice (?) guy who introduced me to Wiki via the Ecademy article (yuk! what an introduction...), I wonder if you could do me a favour? I have just undertaken the next review of an article I started some months ago on the West Country Carnival. There was little point in asking for feedback before I had added pictures, which I did after last nights Burnham on Sea event - foggy, bit cold, other wise OK. Your feedback as a highly experienced editor on a personal basis would be very much appreciated. I do quite enjoy life here (the history, mototrycles, etc), although you learn alot about people and the rather monotonal effect of IP/text based communication - and how some people just don't understend the need for references! Best Regards, - Ian McAllister 23:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikidata[edit]

Hi GerardM!

Some huwikipedians are trying to create a sort of "database" using templates, to handle numbers that need to appear at several places (e.g. census data). I tried to dig up information on Wikidata (which obviously would be a much better way to handle the problem), but everything I found is either years old or WiktionaryZ-specific. Is there any hope that Wikipedia will be able to handle relational data in the forseeable future (say half a year or less)?

thanks, --Tgr 21:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I would say so. Now understand that WiktionaryZ is both the project and the development of the functionality. When a certain word eg "Hungary" is used, it can be given all types of attributes. These attributes have to be maintained in a central place. The labels used have to be translated in the languages of the projects that want to use them. Finally a project has to choose what attributes THEY want to include in their templates.
My estimation that people can start hacking on the functionality that displays data in the local project in two to three months time. What attributes to add with specific domains is a separate matter. Here you get into food fights where some want this source and others want to include other sources. GerardM 12:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Image of the Wild Boar[edit]

Hi GerardM,

Specialists of All-Russian Research Institute for Plant Protection (Saint-Petersburg, Russian Federation) have carried out a project which aim is to develop a Russian-English Atlas of Economic Plants and Pests of Russia and Neighboring Countries. It represents a set of the vector compositions describing the area distribution of rodents (and some other mammal), insects, weeds and plant pathogens, and also zones of risk for an agricultural production as results of their vital functions in ecosystems. Descriptions with photos are made in addition to vector compositions. We make the majority of photos, but some objects are inaccessible. We would be grateful to you if we have received the permission to use in the Atlas the photo of the Wild Boar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zwijntje.JPG) from your site. We guarantee the reference to you as the author and the indication of your address where it is possible to find the original. You can look results of our work to addresses: WWW.AgroAtlas.ru WWW.agripest.boom.ru The project does not have commercial purposes.

With best personal regards,

Mikhail Saulich

Saulich@AS1061.spb.edu

This is my correct address!

Survey Invitation[edit]

Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. --WikiInquirer 03:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)talk to me

Country code top-level domain[edit]

I removed your recent edit to Country code top-level domain (diff)- it seems more editorial than encyclopedial, however well-intentioned. Also, a quick check of the Rwandan registrar (here) shows they have a mechanism to provide registration to citizens with free and/or discounted registrations, making it a poor example in any case. Regards - David Oberst 18:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I've taken this up at the Talk page. - David Oberst 20:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit]

Hello, the webby logo has been updated, there is a new one here at: http://www.webbyawards.com/images/logo_webbyawards_md.png

I don't know how to change the image, but your name is on it so I thought you might want to update it. I hope this is helpful. I'm a wikipedia newbie so forgive me if I've mis-stepped in any way.

Gradiva

Coat of Arms of Perú[edit]

Hi GerardM, do you remember this Image?

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It seems that you have uploaded a "jpg" [format] file under the filename: ►Coa Peru.jpg◄ back in 2004. The file seems to have problems in terms of the licensing in which it has been released.

As a Peruvian I am concerned, because for whatever reason you might have in both, be part of this community, Wikipedia, and in working or uploading a national emblem, in this case, from my country, you seem as you didn't have enough time for inputting crucial information, in a way that was clearly enunciated over this file's sharing status and its author's intellectual property rights and permissions.

Having stating this, I am congratulating you in taking your time to upload the Coat of Arms from Perú, for what I am thanking you dearly, but on the other hand, I can't use it, and no one for that matter can use it, evenly so, in the official pages of projects about my country, therefore, what is the purpose of this file?

Now, I asking you to clarify the terms and conditions in which you uploaded this particular file or other files that you may have uploaded into Wikipedia and unwillingly forgot to determined the information aforementioned. It is just fair to ask you to do just that. If you were the author, then, by all means, please, state clearly the types of licenses too, by updating this file(s)'s profile or by adding the rationale of the fair use related to it(then), so everybody would have less struggles in using images of the sorts and finding questionable bots' reversions on their pages and contributions on this environment. Having writing this in here, feels estrange but, this is Wikipedia, perhaps, you might decide to use one or some of the four freedoms embedded in the "Commons" as well to release your files in the future, it is only an idea.

However, I am thanking you again, with all my respect and with some anticipation (hoping that this is a short one) for kindly take proper and effective actions over your already uploaded and future contributions. I sense that in the process of uploading "so much information" into Wikipedia's servers you, may perhaps, skipped, this crucial information. Anyway let me know what you do know or understand about these issues, they are sensible in nature, for each of us, in Wikipedia and in relation to our Coat of Arms, is the proper concern, as you might empathize with us, of every Peruvian. JohnManuel-"-Todos Llegan de Noche, todos se van de día" 20:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

◙ PD Do not forget to add a fair use clarification, if it were for whatever reason applicable. ◙

Hoi, as indicated I had it from the Spanish Wikipedia. Given the amount of time that has gone since, you will understand that I cannot recall any more details. GerardM 05:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, and excuse me: What "Hoi" Means? Is it an English word? ◙JMK◙ -"-Todos Llegan de Noche, todos se van de día" 14:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Image copyright problem with Image:Armes tunisie.jpg[edit]

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Template:Forma[edit]

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the cration of Gan wiki[edit]

Hi Gerard, Siebrand told me that you could tell me some infomations about the foundation of a new wikipedia. I have completely translated every message of localisation page of Gan wiki. And I wonder what it is the next step, how could Gan wikipedia come to foundation? Thank you! --Symane 16:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

language examples?[edit]

Hi Gerard,

You left a comment on my page about the book re: languages & the differences between the projects. I'm looking for a few case studies and stories to tell about some of the small language wikis or cases where the wiki has become one of the largest reference sources in that language. Do you have any ideas for good stories/examples? -- phoebe/(talk) 00:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

photo permission[edit]

Hello, I would like to contact you about permission to use one of your photographs that was uploaded by someone else to Wikimedia Commons in a book I am working on. Please contact me at jkwalton5@gmail.com at your earliest convenience. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkwalton5 (talkcontribs) 17:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

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Sir,whether the asked for information regarding Maithili and Bengali script was received by Anshuman Pandey. Can you give me email of Anshuman Pandey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggajendra (talkcontribs) 17:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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Tupi language[edit]

Hi GerardM
I saw in the history page of the article that you revert a redirection to Old Tupi language. I'm not a Tupy specialist but, as brasilian, it is seems to me that "Old Tupy language" and "Tupy language" are the same thing. If you have some further information about this, could you please tell me so I can make the inclusions in pt:wiki.
Cheers. (Caiaffa (talk) 23:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC))

Have a look at what Ethnologue is saying about it ... Thanks, GerardM (talk) 05:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Bender, Moldova[edit]

A dispute over the name is going on at the talk page. Because of your background on Langcom and with Omegawiki, you may be able to shed some light as to the appropriate name. Geoff Plourde (talk) 16:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

hello, i'm Ahmed Koraiem, the one who talked to you on the wikimania, about the egyptian arabic wikipedia and such stuff

we were actually having lots of meetings in egypt after wikimania and a topic came up about the New York organization that you told me would trnslate the whole english wikipedia,, actually dr. Serag el Din who had a meeting with us wanted to know the name of this institution,, maybe we'll be able to do something with them,, but we needed more details...

thx,, keep up the good work ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.204.160.79 (talk) 11:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Bus Factor[edit]

Regarding: Wikipedia_talk:WikipediaWeekly#Bus_factor. Yes indeed Andrew is most important to the team - you should have heard us last time we tried to record a panel episode without him. However, what is it that you are implying with your comment - that we should hurry up and produce a new episode; that we don't appreciate him enough; that no one else is putting in the appropriate level of effort into producing the show? I'll AGF that you're simply pointing out the fact that he is indeed an important part of the team but please understand how that comment could come across to the rest of the team who put in a lot of effort too - for example Tawker does a lot of work maintaining and hosting the project on his server and I have organised and produced many standalone interview episodes.

Best, Witty Lama 10:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I really appreciate the WW. There are projects, vibrant projects where one person has this bus factor role. It is however not healthy for such a project. I also agree with you that he is only one person doing a great job, it is sad that he is a bus factor, Wikipedia. Weekly deserves his quality but it deserves better. GerardM (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Category:User tet-1 Template[edit]

I seem to have created template: Category:User tet-1. Is this done correctly? I seem to be the only tet-1 in existence, is this plausible or have I done this wrong? Who monitors babel stuff? can you help? Ex nihil (talk) 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Babel templates work when they do.. There are people who want a great support for them, even wrote an extension for them others are opposed.. So it is chaos as usual. GerardM (talk) 20:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

An invite for you[edit]

Samanthaheadshot.jpg The 36th and final NotTheWikipediaWeekly

Come for the final episode under this name on Sunday, November 2. The whole episode will be about recapping and discussing previous episodes. I am hosting this and look forward to as many of the more experienced NTWW's come to this episode. Plus, we may get a new guest, but we'll see. Anyway, its tomorrow @ 20:00 UTC. Please come! Mitch32(UP) 12:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

G'day Gerard[edit]

Thought you'd like to know that the podcast is online now - and there's also some chat you might be interested in on the australian mailing list related to sign language wikis. I'm sure we'll catch up soon :-) Privatemusings (talk) 06:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

wrong source. becouse I myself is a pure dimili KURD.[edit]

all I know is this source is entirely unreliable becouse dimili(zazaki) is a dialect of kurdish language. The only distinct of dimili dialect is the atrocities of Turkish state behind such dirty games being plaied on kurdish people, but no one would be able to separate, assimilate discriminate, slaughter the kurds which so called ease their plan to control the Kurds. whereas I myself is a pure dimili kurdish dialect speaker of the kurdish people. and as whole my ancestors have been fighting for kurdish people. although this so called distinct of dimili dialect from main it's mom kurdish language 's very young just goes back to 1970s. anyway long live Kurds and KURDISTAN with it's all dialects.

RfA thankspam[edit]

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Barnstar[edit]

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For your hard work across this and many other wikis, bringing free knowledge to people. DurovaCharge! 21:33, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

aletta jacobs[edit]

Hi Gerard. las toevallig je blogposting op de planet aggregator. Werd nieuwsgierig en begon een beetje te googlen. The biography of Aletta Jacobs: "JACOBS, Dr. Aletta H.: Herinneringen. Met een voorwoord van Prof. Mr. Dr. J. Oppenheim, lid van den Raad van State." Dus ik dacht, dat kan toch bijna geen toeval zijn. Aletta is dus een nichtje van Jacques Oppenheim.[3] Die jacques had een broer genaamd Julius oppenheim. Zonen van Urie Oppenheim.[4] En die Julius had weer een zoon genaamd Francis Julius Oppenheim. birth 15 Apr 1884 Groningen, Groningen, Nederland. [5]. Dat zal hem dus wel zijn. sterfdatum onbekend. maar 125 jaar oud lijkt me niet waarschijnlijk. :D --TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Your note and blog posting[edit]

Thanks for both the note and the posting on your blog, which (of course) means that there is something about this at open.wikiblogplanet.com. I'm a faithful reader of your blog postings (via that aggregator site), and I've always been impressed by the extent of your contributions to Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Foundation projects. So it was particularly nice to get a note from you. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia in Hmong[edit]

For your interest. I've read some Chinese materials for Hmong, and adds some comments in m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia_Hmong. Feel free to have a look. - Hello World! 02:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Just thought I'd stop by and say hi. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 11:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Võro language[edit]

Hello GerardM. You may be interested in the discussion at WP:COIN#Advice needed. EdJohnston (talk) 04:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Kotava language[edit]

GerardM,

I've modified your DRV of Kotava language to be for the article Kotava instead as I suspect this was the intention. The language article was a redirect to the main until it was deleted while the main Kotava article was deleted by AfD here and here as well as by CSD a couple of times. If you don't agree with my changes go ahead and undo them. Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 12:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Ulysses S. Grant[edit]

I'm afraid you forgot to sign your vote. Could you? Thanks! =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

NagasakibombEdit.jpg[edit]

Just so you know, there's a proposed replacement. wadester16 20:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

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File:Darkling beetle.jpg[edit]

Hey, thanks for your comments. I have replied could you please have a look

G'day Gerard[edit]

Long time, no speak! :-) I'm sure you're well, and certainly hope so! - I just caught up with some of the discussion concerning conversations with galleries etc. about releasing images - specifically what sort of carrots etc. we might be able to offer them (or just generally how we can organise ourselves usefully etc.) - I feel sure you're well up on this, but thought it was worth dropping a note in here (where perhaps others might notice it too....) about 'glam' - a conference happening down here in oz with the intention of producing a manifesto of sorts (well, a document at least!) which can be presented at wikimania in this area.... your, and all interested input, would be most welcome, I'm sure :-) Privatemusings (talk) 11:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Plantain_Walk,_Jamaica[edit]

Per feedback, the image you reviewed now illustrates the biography of the artist and a different image illustrates the History of Jamaica article. You may wish to change your review based upon these alterations. Durova273 19:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Votes in FPC[edit]

Hi,

I noticed today that you're a regular contributor to FPC but all your votes seem to be a simple "Support" vote without arguments. Although it is perfectly valid as per the FPC criteria, I would like to point out to you that no-argument vote tends to have less values when considering the closure. That's because this kind of vote makes it hard to assess what makes the picture valuable and also how knowledgeable the voter is (for example, is he able to judge the technical quality of the picture ?). Therefore, it would be nice if, from now on, you could remember to add some comments to explain your votes. Regards, Ksempac (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Hoi, I often just vote, but I also often critisise votes and indicate why a certain picture is important. Given that I am in favour of more restorations and illustrations and fewer digital snapshots, you will find that I vote accordingly. When you had done your homework, you would also know that I am actively involved in partnering with GLAM. As a result you may read a press release in the near future. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 18:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I know that, Durova told us so on the WP:FPC talk page (Thanks for this awesome work by the way). I'm sorry if you felt offensed by my comment. I wasn't implying that you didn't have qualifications to judge pictures. My point was only that closers may disregard your vote/give it less weight if you simply throw a "Support" without any explanation. Therefore, if you want to be sure that your vote matters, you should add a comment. Even a simple "per X" (to indicate that you agree with the points raised by another voter) is better than nothing because it helps to know why you think the picture has value. That's especially true for current noms because we've been trying to improve our closing process for some months and that has proved to be a daunting task (see the mess heated debates healthy discussions on the talk page if you're interested). Regards, and sorry again if i offensed you. Ksempac (talk) 20:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Some input from the Netherlands[edit]

I've been doing some rewrites of Rensselaerswyck- and patroon-related articles; I hope to soon get an article together for reach patroon. Obviously the area of New Netherlands was more affected by Dutch influences than British, so many of our local names are derived or copied from Dutch names. I'd like to add a pronunciation guide in all the Rensselaer-related articles. Here in Rensselaer County (my home), and at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (my alma mater), we pronounce "Rensselaer" as either RENS-lur or Rens-uh-LEER. Can you confirm if this is indeed how it's pronounced in Dutch and whether or not you think the pronunciation may have changed since Kiliaen van Rensselaers's time? I appreciate the help. wadester16 19:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

A new message in your page in Wiki ID[edit]

Geachte Gerard,

Hoe gaat het met jou? Alles goed daar? Waar ben jij? Op Holland nu?

I had left you some message in your talk page in Wikipedia Indonesia about the Tropen Museum Amsterdam. I will be glad if you can return me a message for that. Regards, NaidNdeso (talk) 06:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Rollback[edit]

Would you like rollback rights? If so, please respond on my talk page.RlevseTalk 23:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

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Featured picture[edit]

Isle of Graia3.jpg
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Isle of Graia3.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 188 FCs served 13:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry this is so late - I just noticed, purely by chance, that this image didn't credit you on the FP pages, and now I discover you were never notified. I've put up a note about it at Wikipedia_talk:Featured_picture_candidates#Credit_for_FPs - hopefully, this won't happen again. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 188 FCs served 13:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

google wave[edit]

hey i just talked to you for a few seconds after your mediawiki-wave presentation. would be awesome if you could provide me with a wave account. thanks a lot jacob.lars@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaclar (talkcontribs) 18:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/I Did Not Raise My Girl To Be A Voter[edit]

Could you have another look at this? I've uploaded an edit. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 11:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Regnum[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svgTemplate:Regnum has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Kenyon Cox nude study[edit]

I've uploaded a version which has what I feel are more realistic colours for a graphite drawing. Can you review? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 214 FCs served 16:52, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

translatewiki and ckb[edit]

Hi; about this, first I have to correct it, true page for recent activity is [6], ckb-arab instead of ckb.

Also I want to ask you, to remove "ku-arab" item from translatewiki list, because its for localization for kurdish language in arabic script, but now we have it in CKB-arab, and as you see contribution in localization for it, is very close to zero. and if its ok, answere me here Thanks Marmzok 10:59, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I report based on what the "group statistics" show me.. I do not claim any special knowledge when I report on the localisation statistics.
Please make requests at the "Support" page at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 21:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Voting on Delists[edit]

I am not sure that it is your intention, but coming in and voting keep, simply because you dislike Delisting, is highly unconstructive. Keep and Delist should be ground in objective points, not subjective points, such as "I don't like it." Please avoid being pointy. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 07:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

The reason why I object is objective. When you consider this as destructive on the process, then this is well intentioned. Your objection to that is as subjective and as pointy. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 10:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

different names[edit]

Hi
We have diff ways of writing one word in this language (because of having non-universal keyboard) and it causes some problems in finding articles while users search for one, in Google or Wikipedia's search.
What can I do? should I create shortcut pages for each one? (a several for each single article - all possibility)
Or you got better idea? TanX--Marmzok (talk) 22:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Do you use the Arabic keyboard, does that have all characters you need or do you have an adapted keyboard layout ? Thanks, GerardM (talk) 12:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Help finding a Tropenmuseum upload[edit]

Hey Gerard! Durova said you might be able to help me find the page for the raw upload of a particular Tropenmuseum piece. It is a shot of one woman looking directly at the camera wearing a hat similar to those in this image. The number associated with the pic is "60052522", which Durova said should help. I want to restore it, but need to point to the raw file when I upload a restoration (and don't want to double upload). Thanks! Staxringold talkcontribs 19:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/SMS Moltke (1910) (2)[edit]

You voted in support of this image's promotion in it's previous FPC. It was closed without consensus, but I'm giving it another go. Please stop by if you can! Staxringold talkcontribs 05:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Final discussion for Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people[edit]

Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:

  1. Proposal to Close This RfC
  2. Alternate proposal to close this RFC: we don't need a whole new layer of bureaucracy

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip 02:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2[edit]

Because you've contributed to FPC either recently or in the past, I'm letting you know about the above poll on the basis of which we may develop proposals to change our procedures and criteria. Regards, Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 12:42, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

"Western" Punjabi Wikipedia[edit]

To Whom it May Concern,

I recently noticed a Wiktionary incubator under the name "Western" Punjabi on Meta; as well as a Wikipedia under the same name that had been approved. I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that, while the language above exists, these projects are not written in this language, rather they are written in the Lahori sub-dialect of Eastern Punjabi; with the only real difference of being written in the Arabic script. Indeed, I transliterated the article on Lahore from the "Western" Punjabi Wikipedia to the Eastern Punjabi one, and it worked fine. Since I can read both scripts, I can tell you that this is not the language it claims to be. It is a shame, because those who actually speak that language will not be able to run a Wikipedia now. Please don't approve the Wiktionary at least, without confirming the language it is written in.

Many Thanks.

--92.21.135.101 16:16, 1 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.135.101 (talk)

VPC[edit]

— raekyT 23:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Curious[edit]

Somebody wants to know: [7]. --VanBurenen (talk) 17:00, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Please help me check![edit]

Hi GerardM, I think you are User:GerardM in translate wiki! Could you help me check some thing??? I have a problem with sum box, when I create an acount, I fill at sum box, I promise this simple solve is very easy anf I fill correct but It make me fill many times each time I click "create an acount", it have problem. I request to Mac Phillipc (a wikia staff) to help me. When I request project translators in order to translate from English to Vietnamese for wikia's mediawikis, I click "save page" but the sum box appear again. I fill correctly, but then you know, It still have trouble! Please help me check this! Thanks

Candace Flynn (talk) 02:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

"von" in Gräfin Alice Platen-Hallermund[edit]

Hi Gerard. According to the Times obit, the "von" shouldn't be there - "Born at Weissenhaus, Holstein, in 1910 into the Hanoverian aristocracy, Gräfin Alice Platen-Hallermund was the youngest of four daughters (one died in infancy) of a landowner with progressive ideals, and who deemed the use of “von” odiously Prussian." Hence my revert... Mike Peel (talk) 20:00, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I understand why you did it. However her family calls her von Platen, this is how she is known. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 07:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
There's a difference between the name that she was born as (which is normally legally defined somewhere), and the name she was commonly known by. One of those can have "von" in it where the other doesn't. ;-) But you have contact with someone that's more knowledgeable about this than me - so I won't push further. Mike Peel (talk) 08:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Real Life Barnstar.jpg The Real Life Barnstar
Wish you all the best in board elections !!! naveenpf (talk) 18:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Stories Project[edit]

Hi Gerard,

My name is Victor Grigas and I'm a storyteller at the foundation - I asked Ryan Kaldari about who I should talk to and he mentioned you. I'd be interested in setting up a time to talk on the phone or over Skype to talk about your use of Wikipedia with the goal of possibly using your interview for fundraising and communication purposes.

I can be reached at my email :

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Thanks!

Victor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.38.130.168 (talk) 21:51, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Hi, I am actually working with the user thelmadatter in the GLAM project, as well as the translations of some English articles into Spanish. She has recommended me to talk to you so you can help me as a mentor. Can I rely on you?? Thanks a lot.--Tlilmiztli (talk) 17:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Science lovers wanted![edit]

Science lovers wanted!
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Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah (talk) 20:02, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Roadmap for WikiPedia New Language Strategies?[edit]

Hello Gerard,

we met at the Luxembourg Multilingual Web Workshop in March.

I am trying to find documents that describe the vision or roadmap of the WikiPedia translation strategies. I am particularly interested to the cross-language links: they are certainly wiki-edited but what is the general QA policy? What's up when there's partially corresponding concept?

Thanks in advance Paul

-- Paul Libbrecht -- Recycled Mathematician -- developer -- Curriki -- researcher - CERMAT --

Polx (talk) 06:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Translate wiki.net Help=[edit]

Helo Greard compliments of a New Year,i got your contacts from Isla Haddow-Flood a wikipedian belloging from WikimediaZA hmm!! am trying to work on the interface of our wikipedia page here http://tn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page it doesnt seem to be appealing to our users.Now am trying to use these tool called translatewiki.net but Isala told be u should be quet familiar with it,please kindly request for you help.Oarabile Mudongo (talk) 14:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:GerardM/kladblok[edit]

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I don't know what Gtwfan52 was thinking, since names in foreign languages aren't gibberish, since this doesn't look like testing, and since test pages are permitted in userspace anyway. I've declined the speedy. Nyttend (talk) 21:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Sayyidah Ruqayya Mashhad[edit]

Helo Gerard, I see you had something to do with the creation of this article, although it seems to be the case that you simply moved some content there from another page where it did not belong. I spent a fair bit of time cleaning it up, discovering a copyright violation in the process, and then finally realizing that there is a pre-existing article Ruqayya Mashhad, which has photos but the text in that article also has copyright problems. The two article should be merged and I was wondering if you would like some input into that process? Invertzoo (talk) 01:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Valerie Sutton[edit]

Hi Gerard, or hoi, if you prefer (: I'm sure that you are aware that it is not enough for the subject of a Wikipedia article to be notable, we need proper references and a neutral encyclopaedic tone, and the text and images cannot be copyright. If you had seen my edit summary, it said G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: image is copyright, "refs" are spamlinks, not independent, don't support text. I'm not clear if you are disagreeing with that assessment, since you only mention notability. In any case, I userfied the text on request to be improved, and it is currently here, cheers, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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About registering bot[edit]

Hi Gerard,

My name is Rahat, from Kyrgyz Republic. As a team we would like to upload batch of word into Kyrgyz Wiktionary but do not know how to register bot. Can you please advice how to do it?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards, R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.112.122.100 (talk) 21:32, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

All it takes is for a local administrator to give the "bot flag" to a user profile that will be used for uploads. GerardM (talk) 23:20, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the George van Biesbroeck Prize[edit]

Category:Recipients of the George van Biesbroeck Prize, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 19:14, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Series[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Series has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Alakzi (talk) 20:02, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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Wikidata item notability[edit]

related to User talk:P64#Nansen Refugee Award; more generally Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards and prizes#Updates of awards information & Wikidata

I did not find you at WD except in the item history.

Perhaps interesting to you, d:Property talk:P1706#shared with (share).

Can you point me to a discussion of notability and scope at Wikidata? I think your point must be more important in some contexts other than serial winners of awards, such as co-authors of one book. To create a missing co-author at WD may be interpreted as completing a list of the book's authors, but when is such expansion welcome? Adding the siblings or parents or children of every person in the database may be interpreted as completing the lists of siblings, parents, and children. Perhaps that is welcome only if one sibling, one parent, or one child is otherwise in the database. More strictly, siblings may routinely be welcome only if they have one twin, triplet (sibling in one pregnancy, littermate) in the database.

--P64 (talk) 20:51, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Hoi, it is not in the discussion, it is in the notability criteria itself. :)
I have blogged again about the award and I am happy to say that the result is as I hoped it would be. For most awards it is now perfectly usable. It is in more complicated situations where we may need some additional work. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 07:34, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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Seasons Greetings[edit]

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GerardM, ... moge het afscheid van 2016 en de komst van 2017 bruisend worden!

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Facto Post – Issue 1 – 14 June 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 1 – 14 June 2017
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This newsletter starts with the motto "common endeavour for 21st century content". To unpack that slogan somewhat, we are particularly interested in the new, post-Wikidata collection of techniques that are flourishing under the Wikimedia collaborative umbrella. To linked data, SPARQL queries and WikiCite, add gamified participation, text mining and new holding areas, with bots, tech and humans working harmoniously.

Scientists, librarians and Wikimedians are coming together and providing a more unified view of an emerging area. Further integration of both its community and its technical aspects can be anticipated.

While Wikipedia will remain the discursive heart of Wikimedia, data-rich and semantic content will support it. We'll aim to be both broad and selective in our coverage. This publication Facto Post (the very opposite of retroactive) and call to action are brought to you monthly by ContentMine.

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Facto Post – Issue 2 – 13 July 2017[edit]

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Editorial: Core models and topics[edit]

Wikimedians interest themselves in everything under the sun — and then some. Discussion on "core topics" may, oddly, be a fringe activity, and was popular here a decade ago.

The situation on Wikidata today does resemble the halcyon days of 2006 of the English Wikipedia. The growth is there, and the reliability and stylistic issues are not yet pressing in on the project. Its Berlin conference at the end of October will have five years of achievement to celebrate. Think Wikimania Frankfurt 2005.

Progress must be made, however, on referencing "core facts". This has two parts: replacing "imported from Wikipedia" in referencing by external authorities; and picking out statements, such as dates and family relationships, that must not only be reliable but be seen to be reliable.

In addition, there are many properties on Wikidata lacking a clear data model. An emerging consensus may push to the front key sourcing and biomedical properties as requiring urgent attention. Wikidata's "manual of style" is currently distributed over thousands of discussions. To make it coalesce, work on such a core is needed.

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Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017
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Wikimania report[edit]

Interviewed by Facto Post at the hackathon, Lydia Pintscher of Wikidata said that the most significant recent development is that Wikidata now accounts for one third of Wikimedia edits. And the essential growth of human editing.

Internet-In-A-Box

Impressive development work on Internet-in-a-Box featured in the WikiMedFoundation annual conference on Thursday. Hardware is Raspberry Pi, running Linux and the Kiwix browser. It can operate as a wifi hotspot and support a local intranet in parts of the world lacking phone signal. The medical use case is for those delivering care, who have smartphones but have to function in clinics in just such areas with few reference resources. Wikipedia medical content can be served to their phones, and power supplied by standard lithium battery packages.

Yesterday Katherine Maher unveiled the draft Wikimedia 2030 strategy, featuring a picturesque metaphor, "roads, bridges and villages". Here "bridges" could do with illustration. Perhaps it stands for engineering round or over the obstacles to progress down the obvious highways. Internet-in-a-Box would then do fine as an example.

"Bridging the gap" explains a take on that same metaphor, with its human component. If you are at Wikimania, come talk to WikiFactMine at its stall in the Community Village, just by the 3D-printed display for Bassel Khartabil; come hear T Arrow talk at 3 pm today in Drummond West, Level 3.

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Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
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Editorial: Conservation data[edit]

The IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters.

Dorstenia elata, a critically endangered South American herb, contained in Moraceae, the family of figs and mulberries

Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals.

ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden.

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Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
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Editorial: Annotations[edit]

Annotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead?

1495 print version of the Digesta of Justinian, with the annotations of the glossator Accursius from the 13th century

ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning.

As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing (WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided.

Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions.

An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page.

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Facto Post – Issue 6 – 15 November 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 6 – 15 November 2017
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WikidataCon Berlin 28–9 October 2017[edit]

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Under the heading rerum causas cognescere, the first ever Wikidata conference got under way in the Tagesspiegel building with two keynotes, One was on YAGO, about how a knowledge base conceived ten years ago if you assume automatic compilation from Wikipedia. The other was from manager Lydia Pintscher, on the "state of the data". Interesting rumours flourished: the mix'n'match tool and its 600+ datasets, mostly in digital humanities, to be taken off the hands of its author Magnus Manske by the WMF; a Wikibase incubator site is on its way. Announcements came in talks: structured data on Wikimedia Commons is scheduled to make substantive progress by 2019. The lexeme development on Wikidata is now not expected to make the Wiktionary sites redundant, but may facilitate automated compilation of dictionaries.

WD-FIST explained

And so it went, with five strands of talks and workshops, through to 11 pm on Saturday. Wikidata applies to GLAM work via metadata. It may be used in education, raises issues such as author disambiguation, and lends itself to different types of graphical display and reuse. Many millions of SPARQL queries are run on the site every day. Over the summer a large open science bibliography has come into existence there.

Wikidata's fifth birthday party on the Sunday brought matters to a close. See a dozen and more reports by other hands.

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Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017
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A new bibliographical landscape[edit]

At the beginning of December, Wikidata items on individual scientific articles passed the 10 million mark. This figure contrasts with the state of play in early summer, when there were around half a million. In the big picture, Wikidata is now documenting the scientific literature at a rate that is about eight times as fast as papers are published. As 2017 ends, progress is quite evident.

Behind this achievement are a technical advance (fatameh), and bots that do the lifting. Much more than dry migration of metadata is potentially involved, however. If paper A cites paper B, both papers having an item, a link can be created on Wikidata, and the information presented to both human readers, and machines. This cross-linking is one of the most significant aspects of the scientific literature, and now a long-sought open version is rapidly being built up.

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The effort for the lifting of copyright restrictions on citation data of this kind has had real momentum behind it during 2017. WikiCite and the I4OC have been pushing hard, with the result that on CrossRef over 50% of the citation data is open. Now the holdout publishers are being lobbied to release rights on citations.

But all that is just the beginning. Topics of papers are identified, authors disambiguated, with significant progress on the use of the four million ORCID IDs for researchers, and proposals formulated to identify methodology in a machine-readable way. P4510 on Wikidata has been introduced so that methodology can sit comfortably on items about papers.

More is on the way. OABot applies the unpaywall principle to Wikipedia referencing. It has been proposed that Wikidata could assist WorldCat in compiling the global history of book translation. Watch this space.

And make promoting #1lib1ref one of your New Year's resolutions. Happy holidays, all!

November 2017 map of geolocated Wikidata items, made by Addshore

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Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018
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Metadata on the March[edit]

From the days of hard-copy liner notes on music albums, metadata have stood outside a piece or file, while adding to understanding of where it comes from, and some of what needs to be appreciated about its content. In the GLAM sector, the accumulation of accurate metadata for objects is key to the mission of an institution, and its presentation in cataloguing.

Today Wikipedia turns 17, with worlds still to conquer. Zooming out from the individual GLAM object to the ontology in which it is set, one such world becomes apparent: GLAMs use custom ontologies, and those introduce massive incompatibilities. From a recent article by sadads, we quote the observation that "vocabularies needed for many collections, topics and intellectual spaces defy the expectations of the larger professional communities." A job for the encyclopedist, certainly. But the data-minded Wikimedian has the advantages of Wikidata, starting with its multilingual data, and facility with aliases. The controlled vocabulary — sometimes referred to as a "thesaurus" as term of art — simplifies search: if a "spade" must be called that, rather than "shovel", it is easier to find all spade references. That control comes at a cost.

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Zebra crossing/crosswalk, Singapore

Case studies in that article show what can lie ahead. The schema crosswalk, in jargon, is a potential answer to the GLAM Babel of proliferating and expanding vocabularies. Even if you have no interest in Wikidata as such, simply vocabularies V and W, if both V and W are matched to Wikidata, then a "crosswalk" arises from term v in V to w in W, whenever v and w both match to the same item d in Wikidata.

For metadata mobility, match to Wikidata. It's apparently that simple: infrastructure requirements have turned out, so far, to be challenges that can be met.

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Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018
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Wikidata as Hub[edit]

One way of looking at Wikidata relates it to the semantic web concept, around for about as long as Wikipedia, and realised in dozens of distributed Web institutions. It sees Wikidata as supplying central, encyclopedic coverage of linked structured data, and looks ahead to greater support for "federated queries" that draw together information from all parts of the emerging network of websites.

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Another perspective might be likened to a photographic negative of that one: Wikidata as an already-functioning Web hub. Over half of its properties are identifiers on other websites. These are Wikidata's "external links", to use Wikipedia terminology: one type for the DOI of a publication, another for the VIAF page of an author, with thousands more such. Wikidata links out to sites that are not nominally part of the semantic web, effectively drawing them into a larger system. The crosswalk possibilities of the systematic construction of these links was covered in Issue 8.

Wikipedia:External links speaks of them as kept "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article." Here Wikidata finds more of a function. On viaf.org one can type a VIAF author identifier into the search box, and find the author page. The Wikidata Resolver tool, these days including Open Street Map, Scholia etc., allows this kind of lookup. The hub tool by maxlath takes a major step further, allowing both lookup and crosswalk to be encoded in a single URL.

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Facto Post – Issue 10 – 12 March 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 10 – 12 March 2018
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Milestone for mix'n'match[edit]

Around the time in February when Wikidata clicked past item Q50000000, another milestone was reached: the mix'n'match tool uploaded its 1000th dataset. Concisely defined by its author, Magnus Manske, it works "to match entries in external catalogs to Wikidata". The total number of entries is now well into eight figures, and more are constantly being added: a couple of new catalogs each day is normal.

Since the end of 2013, mix'n'match has gradually come to play a significant part in adding statements to Wikidata. Particularly in areas with the flavour of digital humanities, but datasets can of course be about practically anything. There is a catalog on skyscrapers, and two on spiders.

These days mix'n'match can be used in numerous modes, from the relaxed gamified click through a catalog looking for matches, with prompts, to the fantastically useful and often demanding search across all catalogs. I'll type that again: you can search 1000+ datasets from the simple box at the top right. The drop-down menu top left offers "creation candidates", Magnus's personal favourite. m:Mix'n'match/Manual for more.

For the Wikidatan, a key point is that these matches, however carried out, add statements to Wikidata if, and naturally only if, there is a Wikidata property associated with the catalog. For everyone, however, the hands-on experience of deciding of what is a good match is an education, in a scholarly area, biographical catalogs being particularly fraught. Underpinning recent rapid progress is an open infrastructure for scraping and uploading.

Congratulations to Magnus, our data Stakhanovite!

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Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018
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The 100 Skins of the Onion[edit]

Open Citations Month, with its eminently guessable hashtag, is upon us. We should be utterly grateful that in the past 12 months, so much data on which papers cite which other papers has been made open, and that Wikidata is playing its part in hosting it as "cites" statements. At the time of writing, there are 15.3M Wikidata items that can do that.

Pulling back to look at open access papers in the large, though, there is is less reason for celebration. Access in theory does not yet equate to practical access. A recent LSE IMPACT blogpost puts that issue down to "heterogeneity". A useful euphemism to save us from thinking that the whole concept doesn't fall into the realm of the oxymoron.

Some home truths: aggregation is not content management, if it falls short on reusability. The PDF file format is wedded to how humans read documents, not how machines ingest them. The salami-slicer is our friend in the current downloading of open access papers, but for a better metaphor, think about skinning an onion, laboriously, 100 times with diminishing returns. There are of the order of 100 major publisher sites hosting open access papers, and the predominant offer there is still a PDF.

Red onion cross section

From the discoverability angle, Wikidata's bibliographic resources combined with the SPARQL query are superior in principle, by far, to existing keyword searches run over papers. Open access content should be managed into consistent HTML, something that is currently strenuous. The good news, such as it is, would be that much of it is already in XML. The organisational problem of removing further skins from the onion, with sensible prioritisation, is certainly not insuperable. The CORE group (the bloggers in the LSE posting) has some answers, but actually not all that is needed for the text and data mining purposes they highlight. The long tail, or in other words the onion heart when it has become fiddly beyond patience to skin, does call for a pis aller. But the real knack is to do more between the XML and the heart.

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April 2018[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Module:Available[edit]

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Contribution to Nigerian related article #AfricaGap[edit]

Hi

This is an amazing thought and also a great work especially your work on list of Nigerian legislative. I am more impressed by the auto update nature of the page. I think we can collaborate on a larger scale to expand contribution of the project. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 22:20, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Please do. I am quite happy to move these pages to somewhere appropriate. Also, you can copy them to another Wikipedia and they are likely to work exactly in the same way. That is the beauty of Wikidata. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 06:46, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018
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ScienceSource funded[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation announced full funding of the ScienceSource grant proposal from ContentMine on May 18. See the ScienceSource Twitter announcement and 60 second video.

A medical canon?

The proposal includes downloading 30,000 open access papers, aiming (roughly speaking) to create a baseline for medical referencing on Wikipedia. It leaves open the question of how these are to be chosen.

The basic criteria of WP:MEDRS include a concentration on secondary literature. Attention has to be given to the long tail of diseases that receive less current research. The MEDRS guideline supposes that edge cases will have to be handled, and the premature exclusion of publications that would be in those marginal positions would reduce the value of the collection. Prophylaxis misses the point that gate-keeping will be done by an algorithm.

Two well-known but rather different areas where such considerations apply are tropical diseases and alternative medicine. There are also a number of potential downloading troubles, and these were mentioned in Issue 11. There is likely to be a gap, even with the guideline, between conditions taken to be necessary but not sufficient, and conditions sufficient but not necessary, for candidate papers to be included. With around 10,000 recognised medical conditions in standard lists, being comprehensive is demanding. With all of these aspects of the task, ScienceSource will seek community help.

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Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018
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Respecting MEDRS

Facto Post enters its second year, with a Cambridge Blue (OK, Aquamarine) background, a new logo, but no Cambridge blues. On-topic for the ScienceSource project is a project page here. It contains some case studies on how the WP:MEDRS guideline, for the referencing of articles at all related to human health, is applied in typical discussions.

Close to home also, a template, called {{medrs}} for short, is used to express dissatisfaction with particular references. Technology can help with patrolling, and this Petscan query finds over 450 articles where there is at least one use of the template. Of course the template is merely suggesting there is a possible issue with the reliability of a reference. Deciding the truth of the allegation is another matter.

This maintenance issue is one example of where ScienceSource aims to help. Where the reference is to a scientific paper, its type of algorithm could give a pass/fail opinion on such references. It could assist patrollers of medical articles, therefore, with the templated references and more generally. There may be more to proper referencing than that, indeed: context, quite what the statement supported by the reference expresses, prominence and weight. For that kind of consideration, case studies can help. But an algorithm might help to clear the backlog.

Evidence pyramid leading up to clinical guidelines, from WP:MEDRS
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Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018
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Plugging the gaps – Wikimania report

Officially it is "bridging the gaps in knowledge", with Wikimania 2018 in Cape Town paying tribute to the southern African concept of ubuntu to implement it. Besides face-to-face interactions, Wikimedians do need their power sources.

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Facto Post interviewed Jdforrester, who has attended every Wikimania, and now works as Senior Product Manager for the Wikimedia Foundation. His take on tackling the gaps in the Wikimedia movement is that "if we were an army, we could march in a column and close up all the gaps". In his view though, that is a faulty metaphor, and it leads to a completely false misunderstanding of the movement, its diversity and different aspirations, and the nature of the work as "fighting" to be done in the open sector. There are many fronts, and as an eventualist he feels the gaps experienced both by editors and by users of Wikimedia content are inevitable. He would like to see a greater emphasis on reuse of content, not simply its volume.

If that may not sound like radicalism, the Decolonizing the Internet conference here organized jointly with Whose Knowledge? can redress the picture. It comes with the claim to be "the first ever conference about centering marginalized knowledge online".

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Escalatie?[edit]

Beste Gerard,

Zoek je met de zinsnede … Wikipedia is a hostile environment and to make it worse you are so wrong confrontatie, escalatie, beide of iets anders? Ik vind het een tamelijk boude manier om je woorden te bekrachtigen. Kennelijk dé manier om een met wissen bedreigd artikel te behouden. Goed gedaan, jochie! ;-D  Klaas `Z4␟` V 08:35, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

klaas het is te makkelijk om te vinden dat een galbak de boodschap geplaatst heeft. Hij was te bang om het met zijn eigen naam te doen. GerardM (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018
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Neglected diseases
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To grasp the nettle, there are rare diseases, there are tropical diseases and then there are "neglected diseases". Evidently a rare enough disease is likely to be neglected, but neglected disease these days means a disease not rare, but tropical, and most often infectious or parasitic. Rare diseases as a group are dominated, in contrast, by genetic diseases.

A major aspect of neglect is found in tracking drug discovery. Orphan drugs are those developed to treat rare diseases (rare enough not to have market-driven research), but there is some overlap in practice with the WHO's neglected diseases, where snakebite, a "neglected public health issue", is on the list.

From an encyclopedic point of view, lack of research also may mean lack of high-quality references: the core medical literature differs from primary research, since it operates by aggregating trials. This bibliographic deficit clearly hinders Wikipedia's mission. The ScienceSource project is currently addressing this issue, on Wikidata. Its Wikidata focus list at WD:SSFL is trying to ensure that neglect does not turn into bias in its selection of science papers.

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Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018
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The science publishing landscape
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In an ideal world ... no, bear with your editor for just a minute ... there would be a format for scientific publishing online that was as much a standard as SI units are for the content. Likewise cataloguing publications would not be onerous, because part of the process would be to generate uniform metadata. Without claiming it could be the mythical free lunch, it might be reasonably be argued that sandwiches can be packaged much alike and have barcodes, whatever the fillings.

The best on offer, to stretch the metaphor, is the meal kit option, in the form of XML. Where scientific papers are delivered as XML downloads, you get all the ingredients ready to cook. But have to prepare the actual meal of slow food yourself. See Scholarly HTML for a recent pass at heading off XML with HTML, in other words in the native language of the Web.

The argument from real life is a traditional mixture of frictional forces, vested interests, and the classic irony of the principle of unripe time. On the other hand, discoverability actually diminishes with the prolific progress of science publishing. No, it really doesn't scale. Wikimedia as movement can do something in such cases. We know from open access, we grok the Web, we have our own horse in the HTML race, we have Wikidata and WikiJournal, and we have the chops to act.

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Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018
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Wikidata imaged

Around 2.7 million Wikidata items have an illustrative image. These files, you might say, are Wikimedia's stock images, and if the number is large, it is still only 5% or so of items that have one. All such images are taken from Wikimedia Commons, which has 50 million media files. One key issue is how to expand the stock.

Indeed, there is a tool. WD-FIST exploits the fact that each Wikipedia is differently illustrated, mostly with images from Commons but also with fair use images. An item that has sitelinks but no illustrative image can be tested to see if the linked wikis have a suitable one. This works well for a volunteer who wants to add images at a reasonable scale, and a small amount of SPARQL knowledge goes a long way in producing checklists.

Gran Teatro, Cáceres, Spain, at night

It should be noted, though, that there are currently 53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons, of which P18 for the basic image is just one. WD-FIST prompts the user to add signatures, plaques, pictures of graves and so on. There are a couple of hundred monograms, mostly of historical figures, and this query allows you to view all of them. commons:Category:Monograms and its subcategories provide rich scope for adding more.

And so it is generally. The list of properties linking to Commons does contain a few that concern video and audio files, and rather more for maps. But it contains gems such as P3451 for "nighttime view". Over 1000 of those on Wikidata, but as for so much else, there could be yet more.

Go on. Today is Wikidata's birthday. An illustrative image is always an acceptable gift, so why not add one? You can follow these easy steps: (i) log in at https://tools.wmflabs.org/widar/, (ii) paste the Petscan ID 6263583 into https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/ and click run, and (iii) just add cake.

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Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018[edit]

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WikiCite issue

GLAM ♥ data — what is a gallery, library, archive or museum without a catalogue? It follows that Wikidata must love librarians. Bibliography supports students and researchers in any topic, but open and machine-readable bibliographic data even more so, outside the silo. Cue the WikiCite initiative, which was meeting in conference this week, in the Bay Area of California.

Wikidata training for librarians at WikiCite 2018

In fact there is a broad scope: "Open Knowledge Maps via SPARQL" and the "Sum of All Welsh Literature", identification of research outputs, Library.Link Network and Bibframe 2.0, OSCAR and LUCINDA (who they?), OCLC and Scholia, all these co-exist on the agenda. Certainly more library science is coming Wikidata's way. That poses the question about the other direction: is more Wikimedia technology advancing on libraries? Good point.

Wikimedians generally are not aware of the tech background that can be assumed, unless they are close to current training for librarians. A baseline definition is useful here: "bash, git and OpenRefine". Compare and contrast with pywikibot, GitHub and mix'n'match. Translation: scripting for automation, version control, data set matching and wrangling in the large, are on the agenda also for contemporary library work. Certainly there is some possible common ground here. Time to understand rather more about the motivations that operate in the library sector.

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Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018
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Learning from Zotero

Zotero is free software for reference management by the Center for History and New Media: see Wikipedia:Citing sources with Zotero. It is also an active user community, and has broad-based language support.

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Besides the handiness of Zotero's warehousing of personal citation collections, the Zotero translator underlies the citoid service, at work behind the VisualEditor. Metadata from Wikidata can be imported into Zotero; and in the other direction the zotkat tool from the University of Mannheim allows Zotero bibliographies to be exported to Wikidata, by item creation. With an extra feature to add statements, that route could lead to much development of the focus list (P5008) tagging on Wikidata, by WikiProjects.

Zotero demo video

There is also a large-scale encyclopedic dimension here. The construction of Zotero translators is one facet of Web scraping that has a strong community and open source basis. In that it resembles the less formal mix'n'match import community, and growing networks around other approaches that can integrate datasets into Wikidata, such as the use of OpenRefine.

Looking ahead, the thirtieth birthday of the World Wide Web falls in 2019, and yet the ambition to make webpages routinely readable by machines can still seem an ever-retreating mirage. Wikidata should not only be helping Wikimedia integrate its projects, an ongoing process represented by Structured Data on Commons and lexemes. It should also be acting as a catalyst to bring scraping in from the cold, with institutional strengths as well as resourceful code.

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Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019[edit]

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Everything flows (and certainly data does)

Recently Jimmy Wales has made the point that computer home assistants take much of their data from Wikipedia, one way or another. So as well as getting Spotify to play Frosty the Snowman for you, they may be able to answer the question "is the Pope Catholic?" Possibly by asking for disambiguation (Coptic?).

Amazon Echo device using the Amazon Alexa service in voice search showdown with the Google rival on an Android phone

Headlines about data breaches are now familiar, but the unannounced circulation of information raises other issues. One of those is Gresham's law stated as "bad data drives out good". Wikipedia and now Wikidata have been criticised on related grounds: what if their content, unattributed, is taken to have a higher standing than Wikimedians themselves would grant it? See Wikiquote on a misattribution to Bismarck for the usual quip about "law and sausages", and why one shouldn't watch them in the making.

Wikipedia has now turned 18, so should act like as adult, as well as being treated like one. The Web itself turns 30 some time between March and November this year, per Tim Berners-Lee. If the Knowledge Graph by Google exemplifies Heraclitean Web technology gaining authority, contra GIGO, Wikimedians still have a role in its critique. But not just with the teenage skill of detecting phoniness.

There is more to beating Gresham than exposing the factoid and urban myth, where WP:V does do a great job. Placeholders must be detected, and working with Wikidata is a good way to understand how having one statement as data can blind us to replacing it by a more accurate one. An example that is important to open access is that, firstly, the term itself needs considerable unpacking, because just being able to read material online is a poor relation of "open"; and secondly, trying to get Creative Commons license information into Wikidata shows up issues with classes of license (such as CC-BY) standing for the actual license in major repositories. Detailed investigation shows that "everything flows" exacerbates the issue. But Wikidata can solve it.

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Facto Post – Issue 21 – 28 February 2019[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 21 – 28 February 2019
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What is a systematic review?

Systematic reviews are basic building blocks of evidence-based medicine, surveys of existing literature devoted typically to a definite question that aim to bring out scientific conclusions. They are principled in a way Wikipedians can appreciate, taking a critical view of their sources.

PRISMA flow diagram for a systematic review

Ben Goldacre in 2014 wrote (link below) "[...] : the "information architecture" of evidence based medicine (if you can tolerate such a phrase) is a chaotic, ad hoc, poorly connected ecosystem of legacy projects. In some respects the whole show is still run on paper, like it's the 19th century." Is there a Wikidatan in the house? Wouldn't some machine-readable content that is structured data help?

2011 photograph by Bernard Schittny of the "Legacy Projects" group

Most likely it would, but the arcana of systematic reviews and how they add value would still need formal handling. The PRISMA standard dates from 2009, with an update started in 2018. The concerns there include the corpus of papers used: how selected and filtered? Now that Wikidata has a 20.9 million item bibliography, one can at least pose questions. Each systematic review is a tagging opportunity for a bibliography. Could that tagging be reproduced by a query, in principle? Can it even be second-guessed by a query (i.e. simulated by a protocol which translates into SPARQL)? Homing in on the arcana, do the inclusion and filtering criteria translate into metadata? At some level they must, but are these metadata explicitly expressed in the articles themselves? The answer to that is surely "no" at this point, but can TDM find them? Again "no", right now. Automatic identification doesn't just happen.

Actually these questions lack originality. It should be noted though that WP:MEDRS, the reliable sources guideline used here for health information, hinges on the assumption that the usefully systematic reviews of biomedical literature can be recognised. Its nutshell summary, normally the part of a guideline with the highest density of common sense, allows literature reviews in general validity, but WP:MEDASSESS qualifies that indication heavily. Process wonkery about systematic reviews definitely has merit.

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Facto Post – Issue 22 – 28 March 2019[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 22 – 28 March 2019
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When in the cloud, do as the APIs do

Half a century ago, it was the era of the mainframe computer, with its air-conditioned room, twitching tape-drives, and appearance in the title of a spy novel Billion-Dollar Brain then made into a Hollywood film. Now we have the cloud, with server farms and the client–server model as quotidian: this text is being typed on a Chromebook.

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The term Applications Programming Interface or API is 50 years old, and refers to a type of software library as well as the interface to its use. While a compiler is what you need to get high-level code executed by a mainframe, an API out in the cloud somewhere offers a chance to perform operations on a remote server. For example, the multifarious bots active on Wikipedia have owners who exploit the MediaWiki API.

APIs (called RESTful) that allow for the GET HTTP request are fundamental for what could colloquially be called "moving data around the Web"; from which Wikidata benefits 24/7. So the fact that the Wikidata SPARQL endpoint at query.wikidata.org has a RESTful API means that, in lay terms, Wikidata content can be GOT from it. The programming involved, besides the SPARQL language, could be in Python, younger by a few months than the Web.

Magic words, such as occur in fantasy stories, are wishful (rather than RESTful) solutions to gaining access. You may need to be a linguist to enter Ali Baba's cave or the western door of Moria (French in the case of "Open Sesame", in fact, and Sindarin being the respective languages). Talking to an API requires a bigger toolkit, which first means you have to recognise the tools in terms of what they can do. On the way to the wikt:impactful or polymathic modern handling of facts, one must perhaps take only tactful notice of tech's endemic problem with documentation, and absorb the insightful point that the code in APIs does articulate the customary procedures now in place on the cloud for getting information. As Owl explained to Winnie-the-Pooh, it tells you The Thing to Do.

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Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019
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Completely clouded?
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Talk of cloud computing draws a veil over hardware, but also, less obviously but more importantly, obscures such intellectual distinction as matters most in its use. Wikidata begins to allow tasks to be undertaken that were out of easy reach. The facility should not be taken as the real point.

Coming in from another angle, the "executive decision" is more glamorous; but the "administrative decision" should be admired for its command of facts. Think of the attitudes ad fontes, so prevalent here on Wikipedia as "can you give me a source for that?", and being prepared to deal with complicated analyses into specified subcases. Impatience expressed as a disdain for such pedantry is quite understandable, but neither dirty data nor false dichotomies are at all good to have around.

Issue 13 and Issue 21, respectively on WP:MEDRS and systematic reviews, talk about biomedical literature and computing tasks that would be of higher quality if they could be made more "administrative". For example, it is desirable that the decisions involved be consistent, explicable, and reproducible by non-experts from specified inputs.

What gets clouded out is not impossibly hard to understand. You do need to put together the insights of functional programming, which is a doctrinaire and purist but clearcut approach, with the practicality of office software. Loopless computation can be conceived of as a seamless forward march of spreadsheet columns, each determined by the content of previous ones. Very well: to do a backward audit, when now we are talking about Wikidata, we rely on integrity of data and its scrupulous sourcing: and clearcut case analyses. The MEDRS example forces attention on purge attempts such as Beall's list.

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Facto Post – Issue 24 – 17 May 2019[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 24 – 17 May 2019
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Semantic Web and TDM – a ContentMine view

Two dozen issues, and this may be the last, a valediction at least for a while.

It's time for a two-year summation of ContentMine projects involving TDM (text and data mining).

Wikidata and now Structured Data on Commons represent the overlap of Wikimedia with the Semantic Web. This common ground is helping to convert an engineering concept into a movement. TDM generally has little enough connection with the Semantic Web, being instead in the orbit of machine learning which is no respecter of the semantic. Don't break a taboo by asking bots "and what do you mean by that?"

The ScienceSource project innovates in TDM, by storing its text mining results in a Wikibase site. It strives for compliance of its fact mining, on drug treatments of diseases, with an automated form of the relevant Wikipedia referencing guideline MEDRS. Where WikiFactMine set up an API for reuse of its results, ScienceSource has a SPARQL query service, with look-and-feel exactly that of Wikidata's at query.wikidata.org. It also now has a custom front end, and its content can be federated, in other words used in data mashups: it is one of over 50 sites that can federate with Wikidata.

The human factor comes to bear through the front end, which combines a link to the HTML version of a paper, text mining results organised in drug and disease columns, and a SPARQL display of nearby drug and disease terms. Much software to develop and explain, so little time! Rather than telling the tale, Facto Post brings you ScienceSource links, starting from the how-to video, lower right.

ScienceSourceReview, introductory video: but you need run it from the original upload file on Commons
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The review tool requires a log in on sciencesource.wmflabs.org, and an OAuth permission (bottom of a review page) to operate. It can be used in simple and more advanced workflows. Examples of queries for the latter are at d:Wikidata_talk:ScienceSource project/Queries#SS_disease_list and d:Wikidata_talk:ScienceSource_project/Queries#NDF-RT issue.

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Userspace[edit]

If you want to create a draft in your userspace, you need to include the prefix User. If you don't do that, as with GerardM:Global Young Academy, you're creating pages that are technically in the mainspace, which is why you were getting that error message from {{Wikidata list}}. Could you move the GerardM: pages to User:GerardM/ ? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Not really. If you want to make that change go ahead. In the mean time I think the English Wikipedia attitudes do not survive the smell test.. It is a bit too stark for me. Thanks, ~~
Not sure what your comment refers to but I have moved your Young Academy articles into your userspace, which is where I assume they're meant to be. You need to prefix them with User:GerardM/ otherwise they end up in mainspace. ... discospinster talk 16:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Young Academies of the World moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Young Academies of the World, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the prompts on the Articles for Creation template atop the page. ... discospinster talk 16:38, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago[edit]

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BLP restrictions[edit]

You recently attempted to reinsert some material at Richard Marais about a blog post, noting that it should be allowed because the post writer/publisher is a journalist, an understandable argument. However, while self-published sources created by subject matter experts are permitted on some articles, they are specifically barred from biographies of living persons, such as Marais (the exception would be if the poster were Marais himself, and even then its use would be limited.) See WP:BLPSPS for details. If you disagree with this policy, an individual article is not the place to lobby for its change. --Nat Gertler (talk) 12:57, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@NatGertler: The problem is that in this case it is a science journalist who raises issues about scientific integrity. This IS not about the person but about the practice of science. By not allowing you enable white whashing. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 13:11, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
As it is in an article about a living person making claims about that living person, then yes, it is about a living person, no matter what else it might also be about. Your problem is with the policy, and you will have to go to things beyond the editing of a single article to get that policy changed. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
@NatGertler: when the science of someone cannot be fully addressed, what does that mean for his notability as a scientist? Thanks, GerardM (talk) 13:37, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
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COVID-19 deaths - Listeria list[edit]

I shared the list you set up at Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19/deaths and as described at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_COVID-19#Biographies_and_deaths_-_multilingual_list. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

April 2020[edit]

Information icon Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on WP:AN. Thank you. ——SN54129 11:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

please tell me why you think so GerardM (talk) 12:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Picture in ethnic cleansing[edit]

I saw your edit summary of this edit. It was not very polite of you to call this IP editor a coward. That was actually a personal attack. In addition, I saw that editor's edit summary, and he claims that the picture is "Irrelevant and anachronic". I wouldn't have put it in those words, but I too had to click on the picture and have a good look at it before I understood its illustrative value. I changed the caption a bit, to reflect this. Debresser (talk) 14:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

No, particularly when an anonymous coward does something controversial, such a person does not get/deserve the same attention someone else gets. When an ethnic cleansing is called "irrelevant and anachonic" it typically is a pov pusher. No regrets. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)