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Ron Estes[edit]

Hello, I'm wondering if you have a source for your assertion that Ron Estes took office on April 11? I'm wondering where exactly your source in. For example, Joe Manchin and Chris Coons were sworn in almost 2 weeks after their special election, and this contradicts your claim that the date of taking office is the date of the election. Do you have a citation from some law that supports your statement? Thank you. JocularJellyfish (talk) 19:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

  • This issue has been debated before on another article. I will try to find support for it in the meantime. The difference is that both Manchin and Coons succeeded interim Senate appointees, whereas Estes succeeded a vacancy caused by a resignation. Thanks for challenging this as WP edits should have citations which mine did not.—GoldRingChip 20:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
    • Here: "The salaries of Representatives in Congress, Delegates from Territories, and Resident Commissioners, elected for unexpired terms, shall commence on the date of their election and not before." 2 U.S.C. § 5304, (July 16, 1914, ch. 141, § 1, 38 Stat. 458)
I disagree and I think it needs further discussion. All articles for US Senators and Representatives show the date they were sworn in, not when they were elected. This isn't a one article issue, but something that needs to be brought up for consistency among American political articles. Also, if you want to revert another user's edits, make sure everything is WRONG before fully reverting. Removing the official photo as you did in the Ron Estes article was uncalled for. Please be more careful. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 03:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Removing the photo was a mistake, I'm sorry. I'll look into the other issue and cite it. Thanks for bringing to my attention.—GoldRingChip 12:18, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm starting the research, but will not be able to finish it now. I can't definitely say, one-way-or-the-other, where the rules come down on Oath-vs.-Election/Appointment. You're welcome to add to what I've started and maybe we can build a consensus! See: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Official beginning & end of terms for members of Congress.—GoldRingChip 13:36, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


I want to discuss your several edits to Seniority in the House of Representatives, in which you claim that seniority starts on election day. This is not true - as you can see, seniority for representatives elected in November 2016 begins on January 3rd, 2017, the day they were seated. Gianforte, therefore, can have no seniority in the House because he is not a member of the House. He is a representative-elect, and not entitled to a place in the seniority ranking. I wanted to clarify this in the hopes that we can revert to my prior edit.

  • Your statements are true for Reps-elect whose terms have not yet started. HOWEVER, for representatives (and Senators) who are elected in a special election, their service begins when elected.—GoldRingChip 16:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Current Seniority in the U.S. House of Representatives for individual reps[edit]

Do you know a way to create a template where each US rep page can update through a template where someone can change the sequence number in one place and centrally rather than update 435 individual pages? It seems real tedious to do every time someone leaves or dies, not to mention trying to sift through all the watchlist pages. I've been doing 50 at a time, but there has got to be a better way if we want to keep it.... — 11:51, 5 July 2017‎ Pvmoutside

  • Alas, no. But that would be a fascinating script for someone smarter than me!—GoldRingChip 19:55, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

When I made those edits, they had some strange quotes in them by some ip user. SamSennett (talk) 23:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

US Judge Succession Box Template?[edit]

I saw that you have been a major contributor to Template:USRepSuccessionBox and Template:U.S. Senator box. Over at Wikipedia:WikiProject United States courts and judges I'm interested in a template for us judges succession. This would cover all levels (district, courts of appeals, and supreme court) and would simply the succession boxes, which are in a very poor state across the project. But I have no experience with this sort of thing. Would you be willing to help @Safiel:, @Snickers2686:, the rest of the project's members, and me out with making a template for this sort of thing? It would ideally cover something like this:

{{s-bef|before=[[Joel Fredrick Dubina]]}}
{{s-ttl|title={{nowrap|Judge of the [[United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit]]}}|years=2017–present}}

Possible parameters would include "predecessor", "successor," what circuit/district, and "start"/"years". I look forward to working with you on this. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 02:09, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

  • You would want a parameter that would default to "Judge" unless it was invoked as, as, "Justice".—GoldRingChip 13:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Many judgeships are not successive, but some are. Some judges replace others and some are appointed/elected as a group.—GoldRingChip 13:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
  • As with all succession boxes, I believe the dates should include the month & day, not just the year.—GoldRingChip 13:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

United States Senate elections, 1940 and 1941[edit]

Please check your last edit, you have duplicated nearly the whole article! --GünniX (talk) 05:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Whoops! Fixing. Thanks. —GoldRingChip 13:01, 18 August 2017 (UTC)