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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

Noia 64 apps karm.svg This user has been on Wikipedia for 13 years and 2 days.

You may be wondering why my archives only start at August 2007. The reason: I didn't archive my pages before that date, I merely deleted them (as I didn't know how to archive). Therefore, if anyone wishes to see material before August 2007? check out this talkpage's 'history'.

Awards[edit]

I've an Awards page, where I keep a list of Wikipedia awards bestowed upon me.

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My Arbcom Case[edit]

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GoodDay


Sigh ...[edit]

A little bit of good grace - deleting and using a summary like "My mistake sorry" or similar would have got you a public thanks. But your actual edit summary followed up by doing the sock's work for him was graceless. I appreciate your making the change but please lets keep the 2012 GoodDay locked away :-)

I think I'm under some stress from the Rfc at Monarchy of Australia article. GoodDay (talk) 07:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
OK - now you are tempting me to take a look :-) -----Snowded TALK 07:44, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
The 'pedia can be a very frustrating place, sometimes ;) GoodDay (talk) 07:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Just odd 2 editors can mess things up so bad. Even after being shown its a far-right non issue they still cite non scholarly junk websites. Perhaps time to get more involved...last thing we need is WP:Advocacy on some non issue.--Moxy (talk) 17:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
If Skyring/Pete gets his own way, the Australian monarchy article is going to end up as a carbon copy of the Australian head of state dispute article — btw, I still believe he created that article, merely as a vehicle to help push his monarch isn't head of state agenda onto the rest of Wikipedia. He won't stop at the Australian monarchy article. If he gets his way, he'll push his agenda onto related articles. He's been attempting for years, to muddle the head of state issue concerning Australia. Wish the rest of the community would open their eyes & take notice. Skyring/Pete isn't going to stop, unless the community steps in & stops him :( GoodDay (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Moxy:, as an editor who was banned for a full year (2013-14), I don't like to bring up another editors' past behavior problems. But in this situation, I should point out that Skyring/Peter was banned for a year in 2005, over this very same topic Who's Australia's head of state. So he does have a long history around it. Perhaps too long a history. GoodDay (talk) 02:33, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Opinion needed[edit]

Hello. Would you be interested to say your opinion about the issue raised here — Talk:List of heads of state of Angola#Requested move 2 November 2018? Thanks in advance. --Sundostund (talk) 01:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Stay cool[edit]

I had a busy weekend. It's obvious you're being unfairly attacked, and the real purpose has been disclosed to you. You are an expert on this debate, because only a handful of people were involved in it, mostly on Wikipedia. My suggestion is to use the structure "You raised this point in 20##, and XXX and YYY discovered it was wrong because "direct quote". Avoid put yourself on the front line, as he lost the RfC was lost a decade ago. Above all stay cool. If the real purpose is what he said it was, make him hard work for it. Good luck! Travelmite (talk) 09:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, he is (in a backhanded way) suggesting that he's an expert on the topic & that I'm clueless, should leave the discussion. GoodDay (talk) 13:58, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
PS: His last post to my talkpage used the following 'edit summary' "Fair enough. No point talking if you aren't listening". Try not to laugh, when reading that. GoodDay (talk) 14:18, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Listening to the US political opinion, reactionary candidates get bumps in support for being anti-intellectual. An agenda for change begins with research. For example, cancer research discovered smoking was unhealthy, which lead to rational policy proposals, and then a campaign to enact laws. Lobbyists (they can be politically left or right) are finding it easier to attack the start of the process - the researchers and facts. Wikipedia became popular by creating a free and efficient system to create informal tertiary sources, but also opportunity for all types of exploitation. I've seen some unimaginable corruption over students where I am. A motivating reward in a developed country could be something like seeking a pat-on-the-back from a person of high social status[who?], but it could be a model for professional exploitation where genuine volunteers are driven away. Maintaining/protecting Wikipedia articles is labour-intensive, so that's the key point, keep the volunteers positive and value their time. If someone admits they enjoy making others feel uncomfortable or embroil them in time-wasting debate, that needs to be at the front of the discussion, not a side issue. Travelmite (talk) 03:40, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm cool :) GoodDay (talk) 06:10, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Forum shopping & canvassing by Skyring/Pete[edit]

You are experiencing precisely what some of us see every year or so when that user decides to push his view that soccer should be called football in Australian articles. He takes it to several forums at once, with quite biased introductions. If you can suggest a way of reining him in, I would be delighted to hear of it. HiLo48 (talk) 10:13, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Yep, I've noticed his behavior at the Australian soccer articles, too. There's certainly a pattern. I think the time is approaching where he might have to be topic banned from anything to do with Australian head of state. He's been pushing his agenda in that area for nearly his entire time on Wikipedia, since 2005. I'm not very good at compiling diffs for any kinda report at WP:ANI. So it would best for another editor to do that, if they so choose. GoodDay (talk) 13:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
PS: When I joined Wikipedia in November 2005, Skyring/Pete was banned from Wikipedia for about a year, due to his behavior over the very same topic. GoodDay (talk) 14:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
PPS: His last post on my talkpage, had the following 'edit summary' "Fair enough. No point talking if you aren't listening". Try not to laugh, when you read that. GoodDay (talk) 14:19, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

You two have much in common[edit]

Just wondering if you know what happened to our mutual friend Mies. He seems to have dropped off Wikipedia. --Pete (talk) 20:03, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

He was much like you, in his agenda pushing ways. GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
You have a lot in common. Being Canadians, for example. He at least knew his subject, and bringing knowledge and expertise to a project like this is always a good thing. It's not a battleground. It's a place to inform readers, and it works very well that way. --Pete (talk) 05:34, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
You're starting to bore me. GoodDay (talk) 05:35, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
On behalf of the thousands of readers, thank you GoodDay! We are so grateful for your wisdom and everything you do here. Travelmite (talk) 10:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks :) GoodDay (talk) 10:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Gavin Newsom[edit]

Election is over with 100% reporting. Enough with your baseless accusations. I have not reverted anyone after 50% reporting. — Lbtocthtalk 17:01, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Baseless accusations? I don't follow you there. GoodDay (talk) 20:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Again, I have not reverted anyone after 50% reporting. Go check the history of the article. — Lbtocthtalk 20:47, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I never said you did or would. GoodDay (talk) 20:48, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Opinion needed[edit]

Hello. Would you be interested to say your opinion about the issue raised here — Talk:List of German presidents#Requested move 6 November 2018? Thanks in advance. --Sundostund (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Hilo48[edit]

Ban is not a good idea in any case like this involving long-term editor. Two things will result... a new account will be created thus some sockpuppetry that will result in hours and hours of investigations to keep the editor blocked. Or they becoming a roaming IP causing shit all over. Very hard to get people who are Wikiholic's to stop editing. I always think it's best for them to keep their account so we can monitor them intervene here and there when need be. I can think of at least five sock puppets I've been following for a decade...... and four editors that I've been mentoring with their accounts for the same time period. And it's much much easier to follow an account then multiple puppets. I think we're starting to run into a problem with younger/newer administrators that don't realise guiding people versus chasing them down all the time is easier. Every Community has people hard to deal with and it's how we deal with them that separates us from other wiki communities...... or should I say did.--Moxy (talk) 03:43, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

I've never been one to go along with indef banning editors, unless they're committing blatant vandalism. As HiLo48 isn't a vandalizer, he shouldn't be banned :) GoodDay (talk) 04:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
What's HiLo supposed to have done? Drmies (talk) 04:10, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Going by what I've read, some are complaining that he gets frustrated in editing disputes, that he's got a temper. GoodDay (talk) 04:29, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

/* Florida gov race. */[edit]

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/11/15/machine-recount-confirms-ron-desantis-is-floridas-next-governor/ https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/palm-beach-county-recount-deadline-democrats-lawsuit/index.html http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/11/15/florida-recount-results-bill-nelson-still-in-hunt-for-us-senate-ron-desantis-to-win-governor/ Ron DeSantis is governor-elect. Stop threatening to block me for putting in accurate information. Redman433 (talk) 04:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm not threatening to block you. Just pointing out, you may be heading for a block. GoodDay (talk) 04:04, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Ron DeSantis has been declared governor elect by all major media outlets. Just like all other 49 states not just Florida. The race does not need to be certified by the state for it to be determined. All state news outlets have determined DeSantis to be the winner. Zzannoni1956 (talk) 13:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Cool. GoodDay (talk) 15:54, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

FL Statutes 102.155 DeSantis has no prima facie evidence that he was elected at this time. Legally speaking he is still the presumptive governor-elect.

The evidence he has is merely based on popular opinion rather than legal truth. Keiths4789 (talk) 03:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Once the written certificate is issued then he will be the actual governor-elect. These laws were written prior to mass media being widely available and they are still recognized as being the actual legal process by the state. Keiths4789 (talk) 03:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

First the other two insist that he's been elected governor. Now you're insisting that he hasn't. You both can't be correct. GoodDay (talk) 03:24, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

@Keiths4789:, @Zzannoni1956: & @Redman433:, perhaps you all should get to know each other. GoodDay (talk) 03:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

If we waited for elections to be certified for every race we’d be waiting for at least 2 weeks past every election. Might as well remove governor and senator elect from everybody Zzannoni1956 (talk) 02:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Both Georgia & Florida governorships have been decided. It's Kemp & DeSantis. GoodDay (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2018 (UTC)