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Heroes in Hell[edit]

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Thank you, but I don´t think I have anything to contribute at this point. Is it really ALL people that goes to hell in these books?Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


Hi. I have read your latest response on the Obama talk page and wanted to let you know that I have responded to it. Look forward to further discussion.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I owe you a drink[edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Please read my reply to your posting(s) today at the Talk:The Godfather page. No hard feelings I trust? Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 18:12, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

A desperate act from this user to placate you, don't be fooled. Him and Ring are continously backing each other up, look at Ring's history, a continous edit warrior. The discussion on Godfather is an old one (look at the talk archive) and was unresolved, I came back to it after a period of trying to put similar plot edits in other film articles, and opened an RFC so that others can see the behaviour of these two. To my amazement, though unsurprisingly, they now support the inclusions you were putting forward which I and darkwarriorblake tried to earlier, but this is again just to cosy up and prevent them from seeming obstructive. Look at how they responded to me on the talk page and the talk archive. --JTBX (talk) 18:24, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the beer, no hard feelings. Consider me placated. ;-) JTBX, I´m not a very passioned editor, and I choose not to comment further right now. Good luck. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:38, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

No problem dude. --JTBX (talk) 20:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

That´s the best kind of problem. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I didn't understand Right now I'm assuming (perhaps foolishly) good faith towards Ring and GGJ despite their attacks against me for no reason other than trying to edit an article.--JTBX (talk) 22:50, 28 October 2012 (UTC) I would appreciate more of your input, but if you don't have the time, completely understandable, bye.--JTBX (talk) 22:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

@ Gråbergs Gråa Sång – Ha,ha! It is the best kind, isn't it? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 09:19, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I hope you don't mind but your page is still on My watchlist and I paid your User page a visit following a revision today. Could not resist translating, "Ur Mattoidens sånger, 1914. Dikten tillhör de "nedanförmänskliga visor" som med ett ytterst avskalat formspråk vill uttrycka djurs, växters och, som här, urbergs innersta väsen. Dikten skrevs mot slutet av Frödings liv. På Wikipedia finns en artikel om Gråbergssång ... From Mattoidens songs, 1914. The poem belongs to the "below human ballads" that with an extremely stripped-down form language expresses animals, plants and, as here, primary rock essence. The poem was written towards the end of Fröding life. On Wikipedia there is an article about Waste rock song ..!" I don't understand the "Waste rock" bit though. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 16:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Heh. Waste rock refers to Gangue, which is a possible translation of gråberg (that I was completely unaware of). In context though, Fröding is talking about This, i.e. grey mountains and stonehills. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you the two hyperlinks; very informative. Pretty photograph of the dry stone wall too. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 16:43, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────... and we like 'hearing' you. So don't stop! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 16:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


  • Your contribution this morning on my Talk page is splendid. Thank you very much.
    May I say, "iechyd a lwc dda i chi ac yn eich blwyddyn annwyl nesaf." –
     – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Wow, google translate really impresses sometimes. Health and good luck to you and your beloved next year as well! I should try to visit Wales sometime.

Blackadder : Have you ever been to Wales Baldrick?
Baldrick : No, but I've often thought I'd like to.
Blackadder : Well don't, it's a ghastly place. Huge gangs of tough sinewy men roam the valleys terrorising people with their close-harmony singing. You need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to pronounce the placenames. Never ask for directions in Wales Baldrick, you'll be washing spit out of your hair for a fortnight. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
By the way, have you seen this gem? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:32, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
You are priceless; the Blackadder quote had me laughing out loud ("lol") but the link is too much. My ribs still hurt from laughing. Thank you for such a gem. How did you find it? It is dated Friday, 31 October 2008.
Oh, you should come to Wales. It is so different from England.
Amazing, Friday, 31 October 2008 – would you mind if I gave my best pal on Wikipedia, Martin, a link to this strand? I would do it indirectly via "your contribution this morning on my Talk page".
Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:36, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Sharing is caring. I don´t remember when I read about the sign, but it´s hard to forget. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
That's lovely. (as we say in Wales) –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 23:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


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Hello there![edit]

Check it out Wikipedia_talk:Userboxes/Ideas#Apocalypse. Regards Eduemoni↑talk↓ 17:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I´ve responded on that page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Glad Påsk också![edit]

Ja. Det var mitt sätt att säga: Det är inte den enda källan... In ictu oculi (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Well done.Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:43, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Why only Ghosts here ?[edit]

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I wonder if you can reply me, why I find GHOSTS ONLY over here? No real names, real people, emotions? Can Ghosts run Wikipedia better than actual and real people ? Dr Muhammad Ali (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello! And welcome to my talkpage. Well, there are plenty (but a minority) of people that use their own names, like Suzanne Olsson, or the fellow writing above on this page, Gareth Griffith-Jones. At least I think they do. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog. I also think they are real people. My username is a line from a poem I´ve liked since highschool. I generally prefer anonymity when I post on different web-forums, there´s a kind of freedom (that I try not to abuse) in having such discussions in their own separate world, so to speak. Even if you dislike what I write, you won´t stop by and spraypaint my house. Or write mean things about me that my boss finds when he googles my name. Well, you still may, but at least it is a little harder. I, and I think a lot of people with me, would not edit Wikipedia if we were forced to register with our actual names. One can call that spineless or whatever, but I can live with that. I think Wikipedia (also democracy) benefits from allowing people to comment under alias.
Emotions. Yes, I´ve heard of those (joke). Here´s how I see it. We (editors) are very very different, as are our motivations to be here. We are allowed to edit this quite amazing site on the agreement that we make it better. To do this we use rules and discussions, often about things we care GREATLY about (take a look at the discussions at Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship for example), and sometimes consider more important than life itself (we also take offense for very different things). For these discussions to accomplish anything, it is often necessary to approach them in a cool and detached way. This may make some of us seem a bit like Vulcans (or just rude) at times, but it is, when all is said and done, often helpful. Many things need and should be said, but often Wikipedia is not the place for them. They belong in personal blogs, articles, books or other forums.
Well. I think this is the longest text I´ve ever written on Wikipedia, so I hope I understood your question. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, we have not communicated before, so please do forgive my typing here. But I would mention that I read that in the last month a Wiki-user who used his real name and participated in an Afd received a letter from the attorney of the person whose page was deleted claiming various damages. The other Wikipedians who did not use their own names in the Afd received no letters. So there are good reasons. History2007 (talk) 20:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
This diskussion, right? And please feel forgiven ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
It is all over the web in fact, even the ACM website. I think he should have told them to call the official Wikipedian law firm - pretty well known firm in fact. And thank you for the forgiveness. History2007 (talk) 21:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I read that blogpost, interesting stuff! I hope they back off. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps we should get the official Wikipedian law firm to send them a letter to back off, or else... History2007 (talk) 22:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång, So lively and so lovely a discussion. I now believe, it very much in order to work in cognito, at least as Editors on Wikipedia. (And I have learned how to 'indent') :-) . Regards , be well. Dr Muhammad Ali (talk) 04:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
You too! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:22, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Ah yes, perhaps a few days to late now, though :P Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Here is another interesting discussion concerning anonymity. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
And perhaps another one... History2007 (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I confirm that I really am Gareth Griffith-Jones –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 22:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh yeah, the french story is really bizarre. I thought it was an april fools thing first. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but it was on April 7. Yet, it was funny in a way because they are now mentioned here. Reminiscent of you know who, of course... History2007 (talk) 20:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
And Pierre-sur-Haute military radio station is now available in 28 languages. Sweet! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:47, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I have worked out the OBITUARY comment now ... see my Talk
Well done!
Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard|—09:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Lena (actress)[edit]

Heya! I was interested in getting your thoughts on how Lena's name should read in the intro sentence. I changed it to Lena Kumar in the article per her request, but have also noticed that the name Lena Abhilash has much stronger sources and is used more frequently. Was thinking of something like: "Lena Abhilash, known professionally as Lena Kumar, or Lena, is..." ? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

That works for me, I looked at Martin Sheen to have something to compare to. I´m assuming that Lena Abhilash is her "legal" name, but I have no idea how that works in India. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, she claims that "My official name is Lena Kumar", so maybe that should be "Lena Kumar, or Lena (previously Lena Abhilash), is...". Then again, "official" can mean several things. It´s not crystal-clear, this. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
It is puzzling, I agree. Lena Kumar, aka Lena Abhilash is documented to be married to Kumar Abhilash, but we're being asked to delete mentions of Kumar Abhilash. Reasonably speaking, if she came into notoriety as Lena Abhilash, and if the reliable sources support Abhilash, then maybe Lena Abhilash is a reasonable name to start the lead with? Alternatively, if we can find a birth name, it would also seem reasonable (a la Madonna (entertainer) or Roseanne Barr) that Lena's birth name be mentioned first, then her other names. "Lena Birthsurname (known professionally as Lena Abhilash, Lena Kumar, and Lena) is..." Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Today is a holiday, so why shouldn´t I spend some of it googling an Indian actress I never knew existed until yesterday? This strange willingness is what´s makes Wikipedia go round. From what I can see in the articles sources, "Lena" wins by far (and the one-name-thing seems fairly common among indian actresses), and one source call her "Lena Abhilash".
Comparing google results for ""lena kumar" actress" and ""lena abhilash" actress" seems to STRONGLY favor the later, and keep in mind that our article calls her Kumar on the word of a wikipedia-user only, that´s not good. There is also a FB-page for Lena Abhilash that`s probably her. So we should not call her Kumar in our article for now, and not reinstate it until we have some WP:RS on it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Man, bummer holiday! I think you and I are on the same page on this. I saw your Talk Page note, as well. And now I shall take up no more of your holiday! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Dispute over Swedish royalty[edit]

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång. This is from a recent report at WP:AN3. What do you make of this passage from Svenska Dagbladet: "Nu blir han en del av kungafamiljen, men om han även blir en del av kungahuset är ju inte klart. Titeln återstår att se, den meddelas enligt riksmarskalken först i samband med bröllopet, konstaterar Elisabeth Tarras-Wahlberg." I tried out the Google Translator, and it seemed to think that O'Neill's relationship to the 'kungahuset' was not yet clear. Is that what 'inte klart' is saying? You can probably read this better! Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 23:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

You are correct, but that has since then been made clear, see [1] (he´s not a part of kungahuset). The strange thing is though, Tarras-Wahlberg seems to be wrong about him becoming a part of the (extended) royal family. She was spokesperson for the royal family for a big part of my life, and I would normally take her word for it, but this [2] should be the best WP:RS source on the subject. It sounds strange that the kings son-in-law is not a member, but that´s how these things can work, it seems. Note for example that the kings sisters are royal family, but not their spouses. I hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I´ve raised the question here [3] as well, since the swedish article says he IS a member of the royal family, unsourced though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:42, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
The quote above from Elisabeth Tarras-Wahlberg says "Nu blir han en del av kungafamiljen, men om han även blir en del av kungahuset är ju inte klart". If we can trust that, would you read her as having said he is definitely in 'kungafamiljen' but his status in 'kungahuset' is still not clear? EdJohnston (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
What she says is "Now he will become a part of kungafamiljen (called Current members and Extended family in Swedish Royal Family), but if he will also be a part of kungahuset (called Current members in Swedish Royal Family) is not clear."
  • Yes, she is saying that he is definitely in kungafamiljen, and she should normally be trusted on this subject, but according to the website maintained by the court she is wrong (as in he is not mentioned as a member of kungafamiljen). Could be because a lack of updates, but that seems unlikely.
  • Yes, she is saying that his status in kungahuset is still not clear, and that was true when she said it. It is no longer true since the court issued a pressrelease that made it clear (he´s out). Glad Midsommar! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:25, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
So, unless the court web site is updated, we should still not say he is in the kungafamiljen? EdJohnston (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Right, we shouldn´t. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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Christmas dinner
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— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 02:35, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:15, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Diolch i chi hefyd! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

African American lead straw poll[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:African American#Straw poll. Thanks. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Somalis in the United Kingdom[edit]

Hi. Thanks for adding the infoformation about khat now being illegal in the UK to the Somalis in the United Kingdom article. I knew it was being made so, but the legislation had passed me by. I have restructured the section a bit to try to make it flow a bit better. I hope you don't mind, and please do feel free to make further edits or revert my changes if you don't agree. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I saw your edits and heartily approve! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Please do feel free to lend your views on the discussions underway on that article's talk page. We could do with more voices. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:28, 3 February 2015 (UTC)