User talk:GrahamHardy

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I have a ticket stamped white star line 20 June 1930 on the ticket in writing is Arabic 21st June & £4 landing money it was for a homeward journey to Dublin it cost £23.15 shillings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraldine747 (talkcontribs) 17:42, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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Malay names[edit]

Dear sir, I have noticed that you changed the defsort for Amir Ajmal Tahir to "Tahir, Amir Ajmal" quite a few times. This is incorrect as Tahir is the patronym in this Malay name. かぴさん Kapisan (talk) 01:42, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Spanish naming customs[edit]

Hello, GrahamHardy. Could you please explain why you are changing Spanish names? I see that you are also hyphenating Spanish double surnames, eg Harold Lopez-Nussa, and moving their pages to incorrect names. For example, see this search in Spanish on Jorge Lopez Orozco, which is the correct name even if the FBI got it wrong. This is a lot of work that needs to be undone ... could you please stop until you demonstrate some sort of consensus for undoing people's correct names? Also, might you archive your talk page? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:10, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Re Harold Lopez-Nussa, what do the four references say on the article - that is what we should go with (or add new refs)GrahamHardy (talk) 07:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Re Jorge Lopez Orozco, what do the three references say - that is what we should go with (or add new refs)GrahamHardy (talk) 07:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

I'll run through my other Spanish name changes to hyphenated and add them here, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 07:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Fabiola Leon-Velarde GrahamHardy (talk) 07:41, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Could you please archive your talk page? Trying to have a conversation with you while having to first scroll for half a century is going to be difficult. It is not very collaborative to put others through extra work when they would like to talk to you.

Whatever the references in our articles say, before moving an article to what is very likely wrong in the case of hispanics, I recommend that you google to see if a mistake or misunderstanding was made.

For example, there are more sources for Jorge Alberto Lopez Orozco then there are for the FBI Lopez-Orozco, which probably happened because the FBI had some database that couldn't cope with double last names, so they made it up. Presumably the person who created the article understood that. You can see here that there scores or hundreds of sources from the Mexicans who arrested the fellow, and presumably know his name, even if the FBI had to hyphenate it incorrectly for some gringo database.

Are you familiar with the Spanish naming customs that are linked at the top of the pages you are changing, for example, Leopoldo López, who is Leopoldo López Mendoza, and must be distinguished from Leopoldo López Escobar. Spanish naming customs are such that both the paternal and maternal last names are used, and they are not hyphenated. Please stop undoing the default sort that correctly uses both last names, as in the Leopoldo Lopez article.

The Leon-Velarde article looks corect, but it is the removal of the default sort on every article that should be corrected. Please don't do that anymore. Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 07:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Happy to archive my talk page if you tell me how to do it - not done it myself before GrahamHardy (talk) 07:55, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I put a link at the top of the page for you. It's red now. You just edit copy everything from this page, leaving the link at the top, and edit paste the contents from here into that page, then delete it all from here, and voila-- you have a clean page here, with a link to all of your posts at the top. If you give me permission, I would do that for you. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:06, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Concentrating on Defaultsort changes as that appears to be causing greater concern, now the article must appear in categories correctly sorted as per the article name - the default sort must match the article name in order to appear in the correct place in categories. It we look at article Leopoldo Lopez in the Category:Living people he appears between Francisco López Mena and Robert Lopez Mendy which is patently the incorrect position. He should be between Leonel López and Lety López... GrahamHardy (talk) 08:11, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Just found the following in WP:NAMESORT under Spanish names, "The sort value depends on how many names are in the articles title." so I believe I am doing it correctly.GrahamHardy (talk) 09:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Re archiving I thought there was an automated way - I'll ask at teahouse GrahamHardy (talk) 08:11, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Asked for Jorge Lopez Orozco to be renamed back as your reason (more references have unhyphenated name) is good GrahamHardy (talk) 08:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Feel free to remove the hyphens in the article if you know they are incorrect! GrahamHardy (talk) 09:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Shall we consider Harold Lopez-Nussa next ? What do the references say ? GrahamHardy (talk) 08:45, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Most references I can see have it hyphenated, so you may be on shaky ground with this one...GrahamHardy (talk) 09:11, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • All these changes require checking with Spanish newspaper sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:27, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

You are archived; this is wonderful! (You may find that more people talk to you now ;) In the midst of trying to maintain the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis, I don't really have time to delve into this now, but you are citing a guideline on default sort that is in conflict with another guideline on article naming. When I have time, I will delve into this. I have no opinion on Lopez-Nussa because I have not had time to look into it! Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thought about this further. That WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMESORT are at odds here is not a dilemma I have time to sort. I would, though, suggest that COMMONNAME is a policy page, while NAMESORT is a guideline—and a guideline that is not aligned with the policy of common names. That is, Leopoldo Lopez's article is appropriate named, and we should not be forced to move the article just for a default sort. I hope you will take this into consideration, and think about no longer altering the default sort on hispanic names. Pursuing this would be a large timesink and distraction from editing :( SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:01, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

please take a little more care in your edits[edit]

For the third time, I've had to revert your edit to Mascarita Divina where you mistakenly set the name sort wrong. Please look at the subject and the actual name before you blindly apply a name sort other than the article title. This is far from the first time and far from the first article where you've made this mistake because you did not seem to understand the naming of the article. Please be more attentive before changing article name sorting. MPJ-DK (talk) 12:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Left note on articles to stop me doing it again, apologies GrahamHardy (talk) 14:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You've been popping up in my watchlist a lot lately. Thank you for your minor edits which are often-overlooked, but essential, contributions to Wikipedia. Saqib (talk) 13:56, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Francis Alieu Munu[edit]

Hi GrahamHardy. I see you created the above article by moving content from Brima Acha Kamara. Unfortunately we can't keep it, as the content originated from the Sierra Leone Police website, and thus is a copyright violation. Sorry, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Can you check Brima Acha Kamara also as I suspect it comes from the same source, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 14:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
I can't find it anywhere online, and we've had some of the content since 2008. As far as I can tell the page grew organically and is okay to keep as-is. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC)